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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #150 on: 03 Jun 2009, 20:03 »

And when I get more points than I have ever gotten the very first time I play engineer, does this mean that engineers are really good, that I suck at everything else, that I was lucky, or something completely different?


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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #151 on: 03 Jun 2009, 20:30 »

And when I get more points than I have ever gotten the very first time I play engineer, does this mean that engineers are really good, that I suck at everything else, that I was lucky, or something completely different?
The Engineer is the class that is the easiest to play effectively, but in general how effective you can be with a certain class is heavily influenced by the map you're on, since the map layout plays to classes' strengths and weaknesses. Maps with a lot of chokepoints play well for pyros, demos and heavies and are difficult for snipers and scouts, while wide-open maps are the opposite. There's a particular map, a control-point map (where there are 5 possible, you start off with 1 and have to capture the rest) in which you can rack up 40 or 50 kills minimum in a single life as an engineer just by placing your sentry in a particular spot, making it an unavoidable defense of the control point, one that's invulnerable against everything but ubered enemies (which itself should be a problem with a good coordinated defense)
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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #152 on: 04 Jun 2009, 07:15 »

Finally got all my new toys last night.

Then just played an engy in weird ways because the server/team I was on had 6 fuckin' snipers and 3 spies. It was absurdly fun, though. No one expects an engy to pop out of nowhere and shotgun them to death.

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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #153 on: 04 Jun 2009, 09:23 »

I want that Pickelhaube bad..
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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #154 on: 04 Jun 2009, 09:39 »

Offensive engineering is my favourite sport.
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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #155 on: 04 Jun 2009, 12:36 »

A sentry in the face of their spawn? oh yes, baby, oh yes.
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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #156 on: 04 Jun 2009, 14:42 »

Nothing quite like getting an engi into a 2Fort enemy base, teleporting in 3 other engis and creating an unassailable defense in their intel room.
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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #157 on: 05 Jun 2009, 07:44 »

Nothing quite like getting an engi into a 2Fort enemy base, teleporting in 3 other engis and creating an unassailable defense in their intel room.

only if you aren't playing against me

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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #158 on: 05 Jun 2009, 09:47 »

That... can't be good for your digestion. Your colon must be 6 feet of ground beef.

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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #159 on: 05 Jun 2009, 11:59 »

Nothing quite like getting an engi into a 2Fort enemy base, teleporting in 3 other engis and creating an unassailable defense in their intel room.

Of course they get pissed off, but if they were retarded enough to let you build in their intel room, they have no right to complain. :wink:

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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #160 on: 05 Jun 2009, 15:40 »

A little saddened. Even with all the audio and video settings on low, my laptop seems intent on driving this thing into unplayability. I usually give up when I start hitting single-digit framerates. I just bought this laptop less than a year ago, I am highly disappointed  :-(
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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #161 on: 05 Jun 2009, 16:03 »

What are the specs? (CPUz and GPUz screenshots are the most helpful.) Does it have Intel graphics? Are you running in DX 8 mode? Have you tried any FPS configs, or did you just change the settings in the Options menu?
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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #162 on: 05 Jun 2009, 22:53 »

bought this laptop less than a year ago
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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #163 on: 05 Jun 2009, 22:59 »

Yes, I know it's a laptop that's less than a year old. I'm running TF2 at 20-25 FPS on a 3 year old HP Pavilion dv5000 with a 2.0 ghz single-core Turion and Mobility Radeon Xpress 200m graphics. It took some serious tweaking, but it plays just fine.

Unless it has an Intel video chipset, it should run one way or another.

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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #164 on: 06 Jun 2009, 00:15 »

I believe this may be what you are looking for? I'll admit that most of this is gibberish to me. I haven't messed around too much with any settings outside of the in-game options. No Intel graphics that I'm aware of. I'll admit I don't know what DX 8 is, though I'm running the most recent update of DirectX that I know of (I suspect that's what you mean?). There is also a slight chance that the bad performance is coming from the university network I'm on, though that handled BF2 just fine. All in all... well it is yet another technical mystery, which seem to crop up all too often, and if it continues it will not be the end of the world.
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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #165 on: 06 Jun 2009, 10:06 »

DirectX 10 is the most recent DX model, but 9 is what Valve games operate in DX9 standard. If you're experiencing poor performance, you can force the game to run in DirectX 8, which will look like shite but also play better. To do so, right click on TF2 in Steam, click Properties, then Set Lanch Option. Type: "-dxlevel 80", and run.
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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #166 on: 06 Jun 2009, 13:08 »

1.6 ghz is kind of pushing it, but it's dual-core so you might see some increase if you enable multithreading.

Start with an FPS config like this one:
http://www.gotfrag.com/tf2/forums/thread/322476/

Before you even start the game, open Task Manager and kill unnecessary services, and right-click Steam and set it to 'Low' priority. Then right-clikc explorer.exe and kill it. Your desktop and taskbar will disappear, but you can bring Task Manager back up and run explorer.exe again after you're done.

I like these launch options:

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-dxlevel 80 -width 1280 -height 800 -novid -console
Only run TF2 with "-dxlevel 80" once. Before you play it again, remove that line. If you don't, the game will reset the graphics settings to the DX 8 defaults every time you start it. Set -width and -height to your screen's native resolution. -novid disables the Valve logo video, which shaves a few seconds off the load time. -console just enables the console.

Once it's started, enter these console commands one at a time:

dsp_slow_cpu 1
r_eyemove 0
fps_max 30
r_eyegloss 0

There are literally hundreds of console commands you can tinker with to squeeze more playability out of it, but these plus the config file should help a lot. :D

Adding more RAM to your laptop (get it to 2 gigs) will help too, both for gaming and general use. Also check the BIOS setup utility to see if there's a way to give the graphics chipset a bigger chunk of the shared RAM.
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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #167 on: 06 Jun 2009, 21:06 »

I actually didn't go through the whole FPS config, but just those command lines combined with closing explorer did wonders. Never had a single moment of lag. Your help is very much appreciated, and I owe you a token of some sort, to be repayed at convenience.
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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #168 on: 07 Jun 2009, 12:06 »

Another alternative that allows you to play with better graphics is:

go to start->run->msconfig

click "selective startup"

Untag System.ini and win.ini

Go to the services tab, select "hide all microsoft services", and "deactivate all"

Restart, and play. It works really good, just remember to go back to "normal startup" before you start browsing the internets or downloading, since this method kills all virus protection.
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« Reply #169 on: 08 Jun 2009, 09:43 »

I'm not sure there was ever a time I found your mom jokes funny. Not a judgement, just sayin'. It kinda sucks, actually, since that means a good 60% of voicechat communication is completely lost on me.

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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #170 on: 08 Jun 2009, 22:47 »

I heard he's into your dad jokes instead.
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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #171 on: 08 Jun 2009, 22:48 »

Your dad is so fat, when he gets cut he bleeds milkshakes.



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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #172 on: 24 Jun 2009, 10:06 »

Well, the ambassador got nerfed, the cloak and dagger got (unintentionally) nerfed, and the dead ringer got buffed

I broke my record for spy backstabs now that I'm forced to use the knife to get most of my kills.
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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #173 on: 24 Jun 2009, 13:14 »

Oh man, I can't wait until I can play again. The Dead Ringer is the best, hands down.
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« Reply #174 on: 29 Jun 2009, 11:05 »

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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #175 on: 29 Jun 2009, 16:17 »

That's been fixed.
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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #176 on: 29 Jun 2009, 16:21 »

I just did it today. Liar.
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« Reply #177 on: 03 Jul 2009, 22:51 »

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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #178 on: 08 Jul 2009, 13:34 »

The 3rd stage of Pipeline is fun as Engineer. What you do is run to the other side of the map and set up camp in that little square alcove next to the water. (There's even a convenient large ammo crate nearby.) A sentry there will hit the other team's ramp almost from start to finish. And if you build it back a little, there isn't really anything they can do about it, except for sending spies and demos in after you.

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« Reply #179 on: 19 Jul 2009, 11:10 »

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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #180 on: 19 Jul 2009, 11:12 »

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« Reply #181 on: 19 Jul 2009, 11:18 »

A nice fake though
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« Reply #182 on: 19 Jul 2009, 12:48 »

Hate you. Hate you so much right now.
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Re: Gentlemen
« Reply #183 on: 19 Jul 2009, 14:10 »

Heh. Grenade launcher.
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« Reply #184 on: 20 Jul 2009, 16:58 »

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« Reply #185 on: 20 Jul 2009, 17:26 »

Guys, I got the Fedora but I don't like (am very bad at) playing spy.
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« Reply #186 on: 20 Jul 2009, 20:36 »

Give the hat to me.
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« Reply #187 on: 20 Jul 2009, 20:46 »

If they ever bother to include trading I'll try and get a Solly Stash for it. Now that's a cool hat.
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« Reply #188 on: 27 Jul 2009, 09:19 »

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Re: Mentlegen
« Reply #190 on: 11 Aug 2009, 17:22 »

What kind of TF2 player gets a sore finger after five clicks? :P

I seriously need to play this game more often. I forget how much fun it is.
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« Reply #191 on: 11 Aug 2009, 17:44 »

I've been playing this a lot more often recently. Mostly playing the scout and the soldier, do we have a steam group?
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« Reply #192 on: 11 Aug 2009, 17:48 »

I could add you I think. What's your username?
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« Reply #193 on: 11 Aug 2009, 17:53 »

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« Reply #194 on: 11 Aug 2009, 17:56 »

Odd, it wouldn't work. Ackbloom12 or clockworkjames could probably do it, they're admins in the group.
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« Reply #195 on: 11 Aug 2009, 18:21 »

Try nodaisho, then. It should be one or the other, I probably gave you the wrong one.
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« Reply #196 on: 11 Aug 2009, 19:20 »

Hmm, just tried to invite you and it's not actually allowing me to. You are definitely listed under FluffyHitman though.
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« Reply #197 on: 11 Aug 2009, 20:18 »

It worked, I got the invites. I'm in the group now.
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« Reply #198 on: 11 Aug 2009, 20:57 »

I suppose the floor is open to anyone else who wants to join.
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« Reply #199 on: 11 Aug 2009, 21:15 »

Ooh, I submit that SirJuggles could be added? I haven't been on so much since my home wireless is terrible, but that will change as soon as I'm back at school.
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