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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #750 on: 20 Jan 2010, 19:01 »

I'm betting thane will be a romance.
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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #751 on: 20 Jan 2010, 19:08 »

Well, Bioware already stands at the precipice of challenging that idea and possibly constructing a truly magnificent MMO.
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« Reply #752 on: 20 Jan 2010, 19:09 »

I'm betting thane will be a romance.

This is terrifying for me simply because of a certain Thane I know in real life.
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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #753 on: 20 Jan 2010, 19:14 »

Macbeth?
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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #754 on: 20 Jan 2010, 19:24 »

Nope. This man.

Trust me, he's fucking creepy.
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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #755 on: 20 Jan 2010, 19:33 »

Also: Gamespot has pulled the launch trailer for some reason, but it's too late to stop the Internet. In case you missed the last post, I will reiterate: this video has a lot of stuff that sensitive people would consider spoilers.

Video got taken down already. Also, I can't believe no one has mentioned Illusive Man's eyes yet. Remind anyone else of Dune? No? Just me, then.

Is this it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2O-0-fQOOs
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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #756 on: 20 Jan 2010, 19:54 »

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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #757 on: 20 Jan 2010, 19:58 »

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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #758 on: 20 Jan 2010, 20:03 »

Also: Gamespot has pulled the launch trailer for some reason, but it's too late to stop the Internet. In case you missed the last post, I will reiterate: this video has a lot of stuff that sensitive people would consider spoilers.

Video got taken down already. Also, I can't believe no one has mentioned Illusive Man's eyes yet. Remind anyone else of Dune? No? Just me, then.

Is this it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2O-0-fQOOs

Yes, that's it.

And Thane is indeed a romance for female Shepards. There are three romance options for each gender, supposedly. We know about Subject Zero and Miranda for dudes, and Jacob and Thane for ladies, but Bioware is being cagey about the last ones for whatever reason.
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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #759 on: 20 Jan 2010, 20:07 »

Tali for both?

I have this mental image of shepard planting a big sloppy kiss on her face. Window wipers then come out.
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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #760 on: 20 Jan 2010, 20:08 »

Liara again?
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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #761 on: 20 Jan 2010, 20:14 »

don't think you can romance people who aren't in your squad.
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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #762 on: 20 Jan 2010, 20:19 »

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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #763 on: 20 Jan 2010, 20:32 »

don't think you can romance people who aren't in your squad.

This isn't clear, but something Bioware did say explicitly is that they decided to not make any of the ME1 love interests squad members in ME2 specifically because they want them to survive until ME3 to 'culminate' that plot thread. Since supposedly anyone and everyone can die during the endgame of ME2, they couldn't do that.

What I'm really curious about is how cheating on your ME1 love interest in this game will affect ME3. I think it'd be really interesting (and gutsy, because it would piss a lot of people off) if they punished players for infidelity somehow.
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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #764 on: 21 Jan 2010, 11:05 »

I am now damning that I'm going to Albuquerque next weekend instead of this weekend.

Why?

My dad has ME2 as of today.

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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #765 on: 21 Jan 2010, 11:40 »

You have a pretty cool dad.
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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #766 on: 21 Jan 2010, 16:43 »

Leak has hit for both platforms.
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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #767 on: 21 Jan 2010, 19:34 »

Yeah, there are live streams of the full game all over the place. Despite my best efforts, I've heard a handful of spoilers, but nothing major. Maybe I'll track down the list of non-spoiler impressions from the SA thread. Everybody who's watched the streams seems to love Mordin, for the record.
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« Reply #768 on: 21 Jan 2010, 19:41 »

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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #769 on: 21 Jan 2010, 20:06 »

Here are some impressions from the SA thread from people who already have the game or have been watching the live streams. Since most of them aren't playing the game themselves, it's mostly about cutscenes and dialogue stuff.

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-The Background NPC Banter is flawless

-The voice acting is awesome and the jokes are actually funny

-The textures, physics, animation, and lighting are extremely improved

-Interrupts are pretty common

-Armor gets visually damaged if you make bad choices

-If you decide to wear a helmet, you're wearing it till you get back to the normandy

-Load times are longer but there are less of them, there are none on the galaxy map

-There isn't a health bar? and there is ammo, powers reset near instantly

-It seems like you now pick up codec entries, they are data discs you find around

-Combat feels like a shooter, its a lot less clunky and the guns feel like they have some kick, hard to explain but the feel of combat is a lot more engaging

-Level design is about the same, pretty linear

-In no oxygen areas you can shoot people's air supplies and yeah, they don't like it.

-When a class can use, say, heavy pistols and machine pistols, they each have their own slot so you can carry one of each to switch between.

-You need money for fuel, probes, upgrades, probably other stuff besides just gear.

-The normandy tells you what to do (I've located the explosives, you need to go left here to destroy the control panel.)

-It moves you right to important areas, like in ME1 the first time on the citadel you would have gone straight to the council rather than walking all the way there.

-There is a mission complete screen that tells your stats (think end of chapter in RE4)

-When you customize your armor you pick 2 textures, 1 pattern, and 2 colors.

-There is now a % bar above systems so you know if you found everything.

-You can run in and out of combat indefinitely, but its not as fast as ME1

-be careful what you hide behind because some cover can be destroyed

-heavy weapons are unbelievably powerful

-you can bounce your biotic powers off walls/the ground

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I'm impatient and have poor self control, so I've been watching the streams. One thing i will say that has nothing to do with spoilers is how they've stepped up the body acting in this game.

Instead of just standing there and occasionally waving their arms, character move about and interact with the sets more. This is the next step of what they did in ME1 and really raises the bar for immersion and storytelling quality for every other RPG out there. I couldn't play Fallout 3 because after ME1 the characters felt like talking mannequins that just stood around. ME2 makes ME1 seem like fallout 3 in that regard. I hope they keep the same level of body acting for the sidequests, of which i have seen nothing so far.

I think they've managed to make the content so much prettier by cutting out a lot of the chaff. There's still a lot of content, but there's less 'wasted space' that's just filler where you don't 'do' anything.

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The awkward 90 degree turn to exit a conversation and the confused jerky looking around movements are a thing of the past.

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Conversations and body acting are so fluid, it's really nice. Characters will walk, sit, lean on benches, show a larger range of gestures.

In my opinion DA didn't really push the boundaries with conversation acting. ME2 definitely raises the Bar. It's the biggest improvement I've noticed.

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It doesn't stream stuff at all in that way now so you won't have to worry about temporarily blurry textures.

Judging from the stream that was up, the load times themselves are fairly average and they didn't have a hard drive install.

The in-game transitions are faster than Dragon Age's. The initial load was a good length though.

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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #770 on: 21 Jan 2010, 20:10 »

Man, it is going to be so hard to wait the 3 months after release for someone to Lets Play this game. I hope it is the same guys that did the LP for the first one.
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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #771 on: 21 Jan 2010, 22:44 »

5 fucking days to do a complete run-through and level my soldier up to 60. Goddammit.
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« Reply #772 on: 21 Jan 2010, 23:02 »

Not doing it. I'm sure there's enough content in the game to get me to max level so that extra skill point isn't worth the aggravation.
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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #773 on: 22 Jan 2010, 02:38 »

This is probably the first time I've actually really wanted a game. Bought the first one a couple of weeks ago and nearly done my second play through (same character). I just need a little more money to get the pre order on Amazon :cry:
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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #774 on: 22 Jan 2010, 07:19 »

If all goes well I'll be playing the game in about 2 hours. I'll give my non-spoiler thoughts afterwards.
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« Reply #775 on: 22 Jan 2010, 14:56 »

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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #776 on: 22 Jan 2010, 15:13 »

It's not a reference, but this is pretty good too.

So John, is your dirty illegal download done yet? What's the deal?
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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #777 on: 22 Jan 2010, 15:18 »

Definitive list of romances.



The Orange haired girl is Kelly Chambers, your administrative assistant Not Samara though, hmm
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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #778 on: 22 Jan 2010, 15:19 »

Guess shep doesn't go for the milfs huh
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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #779 on: 22 Jan 2010, 15:19 »

I've heard that the assistant is not actually romanceable, and that the third romance for ladies is Garrus.
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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #780 on: 22 Jan 2010, 15:23 »

Kid von Pirate can tell us
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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #781 on: 22 Jan 2010, 15:33 »

Is that Tali? I am so disappointed.

Also, I hope I can make Shepard gay.
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« Reply #782 on: 22 Jan 2010, 16:02 »

Unless there's romance options that we haven't heard about yet, they're all heterosexual. It's kind of disappointing to see them take a step back from the first game and Dragon Age, but what are you gonna do.

Anyway, Jordan was asking for it on Meebo, so here's a (reported) list of in-game bonuses for character imports:

Your Shepard will start at level 2 if your ME1 character was 40-49, level 3 if he/she was 51-59, and level 5 if he/she was 60.
10% bonus to Paragon or Renegade score from your corresponding score in ME1 (Note: I don't know whether you need to have fully maxed Paragon/Renegade to get this, or only the 75% achievements)
150,000 bonus starting credits if you had the Rich achievement on your save file.
10,000 bonus to each of the four minerals (Palladium, Iridium, Platinum, and Element Zero) if you've finished the collection sidequests in the first game.

That's all the gameplay-related stuff. Everything else relates to your character's actual choices.
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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #783 on: 22 Jan 2010, 16:20 »

One thing I really like about ME2 is the recruitment angle and how it looks like you have less reason to just trust every potential squad mate that you come across. I always kind of felt like just leaving Kaiden and Ashley on the Normandy seemed kind of weird, considering they're both fellow Systems Alliance soldiers and all. Ditching one of 'em for the shady Krogan bounty hunter or Liara "I'm-a-bad-guy's-daughter" T'Soni seemed... odd. By contrast, if I have to choose between that wacky Subject Zero and Thane the creepy assassin, it'll seem like more of a coin flip situation than a no brainer choice thematically. Of course, that probably means I'll feel somewhat compelled to roll with Garrus and Tali, which kinda sucks, considering they have a bit of overlap in terms of abilities. Fuck, I almost sound like I give a shit about roleplaying or something.
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« Reply #784 on: 22 Jan 2010, 16:31 »

Eh, I'm probably going to roll with squad members who are most compatible with my character from both an alignment and skill standpoint, that's not that weird. The only problem that creates is that I'm trying like hell to find out what the skill sets for the teammates are without actually watching the streams myself. It's a pain in the ass, the SA thread is moving so fast I can't seem to get anyone who has the game early to pay attention. And it's not already on the wiki yet, which surprises me considering how absurdly comprehensive it usually is.
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« Reply #785 on: 22 Jan 2010, 16:36 »

Also, IGN review is up. I assume that means that the online embargo has passed, so we'll probably see a bunch of them pretty soon.
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« Reply #786 on: 22 Jan 2010, 16:41 »

Yeah, alignment-skill does play into it somewhat, but to me that's a natural outgrowth of the going with what seems like it would make the most sense from a character perspective angle. Kind of like how you didn't see me trying to get any drow tail in BGII while playing a paladin. I mean, she was Neutral Evil, for chrissake! I probably should have just burned her myself if I was going to be a real stickler about it.

Anyway, I dearly hope there's a conversation path like this in ME2:

*Subject Zero does something insanely risky*

Shep: "Hey Garrus."

Garrus: "Shepard?"

Shep: "In retrospect, you weren't so bad."
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« Reply #787 on: 22 Jan 2010, 17:21 »

Per karmic law the pirated version of the game I have is very touchy. On my Windows 7 system it crashes just before facial construction. On my Vista system, it looks like it crashes about an hour and a half into the game. So I'll probably just have to wait for my preorder... or a different pirated version. One hopes the bugs are related to the hack job and not the game itself.

Anyway, hour and a half in and it's looking pretty good. I'm unhappy that you don't have much control over ME1 choices for new characters - I don't have any final saves on my PC and I'm not relishing grinding through ME1 several times to be able to experience all the variation, if there is indeed variation.

Combat's tightened up a lot, animation's better, and I've already had what looks like one dilemma, though I'm not sure at this point what consequences there will be for the choice. I'm actually guessing the outcome is going to be pretty much the same no matter what you do.

Also Miranda's VA is not all that good.
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« Reply #788 on: 22 Jan 2010, 17:25 »

Received my new XBox 360 and... three red lights. Hardware error.

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« Reply #789 on: 22 Jan 2010, 17:31 »

Also Miranda's VA is not all that good.

Ugh, that sucks. Something about Miranda already sorta bugs me to begin with, so that's not welcome news at all.
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« Reply #790 on: 22 Jan 2010, 18:13 »

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« Reply #791 on: 22 Jan 2010, 18:15 »

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« Reply #792 on: 22 Jan 2010, 18:28 »

What's wrong with it then?
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Re: Mass Effect 2
« Reply #793 on: 22 Jan 2010, 21:20 »

It's just... I don't know. I don't like it. I don't think it's the accent.

If any of y'all are playing on the PC, make sure to have all your drivers up to date. Turns out a number of the bugs I've run into have been smoothed out by updating video drivers. Played for another couple of hours and it's turning out a lot like Dragon Age, as in you have looooooooooong missions. The combat is pretty fun though. I made a mistake choosing the Sentinel though - Charge isn't as useful as I hoped it would be.

Also if you're like me and you're burnt out on completionist ME runs, this website offers final saves of various Shepards having made various choices.
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« Reply #794 on: 22 Jan 2010, 21:56 »

Yeah, just from the intros I saw I immediately disliked Miranda's VA.  I knew she was Australian from the get-go, and for some reason that plus her actual voice and the way she talked seemed like the wrong choice for what her character seemed to be in the intro.
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« Reply #795 on: 22 Jan 2010, 22:55 »

Yeah I think the thing might be that she doesn't pull off "intense" very well. And when you're playing a die-hard for a racial supremacist organization you need to pull it off.

Also from the looks of things the personal assistant might actually be a gay love interest. I doubt there's a male same-sex love interest - Bioware said after ME1 that the "desire amongst the fanbase" just wasn't there. I'm fairly certain that the only reason gae stuff was in DA was that David Gaider insisted upon it. Bless his heart, he believes in the worth of romances. ME, on the other hand, functions as little more than oblique porn for nerdy boys, as it comes only in the flavors that boys like - straight and lez.
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« Reply #796 on: 22 Jan 2010, 22:58 »

I got a hardware problem too, maybe you guys can come up with a solution:

I played my best play through on someone else's hard drive. I was WONDERING if I could start a game of Mass Effect two on  THAT hard drive, put the save game on a memory card then continue to play on my own hard drive.

Anyone think that might work?

Edit: question pertains to the xbox 360.
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« Reply #797 on: 22 Jan 2010, 23:01 »

On a 360? That is a Question.
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« Reply #798 on: 22 Jan 2010, 23:39 »

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« Reply #799 on: 23 Jan 2010, 01:56 »

John, can you do me a solid and just post the goddamn skill sets for everyone you've recruited so far? The SA thread is fucking useless at this point, there's literally like 5 fucking pages about people arguing about the Tali romance.
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