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It depends on the song, and from what I can tell that's true for most people. It's really rare that I wind up writing music and lyrics at the same time. I'll generally come up with a song and either fit existing lyrics to it or write lyrics later that I realize fit. Then it's all about editing.
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All right. I was kind of wondering that one since I was thinking of trying my hand at songwriting, and was wondering what the general process was for most people. That's kind of what I was thinking. Thanks for answering the questions for me.
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Quote from: I Can't Wait
I can't wait.

I can't wait for the day when I finally arise, wipe the mud and the piss from my face and I cry, "Oh God, you've given me sight. I swear I will pay back this debt in time but I am weak." And the Lord will split the sky and with a million voices She will reply, "My son, I've given you life, this is goodbye." 'Til then my mistakes are mine, but I can't wait.

I can't wait.

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I started with a grimace, you started with a smile. You said, "It doesn't hurt yet." And I said, "Wait a while." I told you that I loved you. You told me, "Don't say that." You called me naïve, and I called you old hat.

And there are so many things that I haven't seen, and you're the closest to so many of 'em I will ever be.

You told me you were worried, I said, "My love's intact." You said that it's a theory, but I told you it's a fact. I told you that I loved you, you told me, "Don't say that again." I asked you if you loved me too, and you said, "That depends."

It looks to me like you could use just a little cheer, and there's a man who loves you and he could pull it off right here.

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Time is not a finished tapestry! We can work our fingers in the dye of history.

The cassette tape took its last breath face down in a shallow grave; the album's reading its epitaph at the dawn of the digital age. "Stay alive," it says. "Don't get obsolete." The album feels its middle, figures out that its filler is pretty weak. I know what it's thinking to itself - "How do I get back to a point where I feel good about my health?"

So what have we learned today? If you love a format, don't let it fade away. All the albums that I love gather dust on the shelf, and as far as you're concerned I should listen to myself. Put your name on the records on the sleeves beside the tracks, so when I'm looking at the songs that remind me of you, you'll be staring back. I'll put your heart in all the mixtapes, all the soundtracks to my life: songs cut with humour and metaphor, meant to get you high as a kite on increasing doses of my worldview. These songs were meant for a singular "you." Somebody different, somebody new. The first time we touched, talked. A new needle to stick in my arm and make me feel like if I could spin your heart again and again I could figure out what gives it its lasting appeal.

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There is a chill, a blast, a scale, a note, the aftermath. We'll put our feelings in the past and to the door we'll beat a path. Even if we arrive too late, it doesn't matter. There are no brakes. So look around, and say, "Oh, great," 'cause all we've ever had is snakes.

We got snakes.

Another locking door? We'll use our limbs. We'll use our force, and if it fails just like before we'll just let nature take its course. I'll slit my eyes, you'll slit your tongue, two animals become one. Above us, wires from rafters hung, but watching us, they're loose. They're gone.

We got snakes. We got snakes, for God's sake. For God's sake, we got snakes.

Feel me coil around your bones, making nests and making homes, emanating glorious tones so now you'll never feel alone. "And so long after I am dead, and your old mournful skin has shed, you will abandon all your dread and simply face the sky," I said.

Feel me coil and wrap myself around, making brand new sounds that shine like gold. Feel my spirit pass through the emergency glass. Feel new life! Feel bold!

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American lover, come over tonight. Don't sit on the fence and fret, you know it just isn't right. You've got plenty of problems, but don't run and hide. If you let them build up at your door, then they're liable to burst inside.

American lover, don't draw me a line, dare me to cross it and, when I refuse, just say, "Fine." I don't really need this! I know that you're strong. All I am asking is if we could please just get along.

Elliott Spitzer; oh, Hudson's Bay; oh, you KGB agents who all disappeared or defected to the CIA; oh, all of you gentlemen, we have one common bond: we all had American lovers and then we got caught.

American lover...

Call me a bastard. Call me a slave. Call me wicked, wild and violent. Call me depraved. Call me an angel. Call me on the phone. Call me the best fuck you ever had and ask when I'm coming home.

I'll let you know.

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Goddamn your breath, fuck the hair on the back of my neck. They have conspired against me. Smoke curls from your lips. I can read signals but I never learned that many.

I have regrets, a list as long as my face, but keep talking. I'll give your partner some space to tell me how great you are. Keep your alibi straight so you can leave when you want to.

If good men get their just rewards, I'll fold my hands and I'll ask the Lord to let true love conquer petty things: a father's words, a diamond ring. But for now, you're parked out of Her holy sight at his mortgaged home every Friday night. I wish I knew the way I felt before you were with someone else.

I wish I knew the way I felt before you were with someone else.
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I really like these!

Also, your mediafire link on pg.1 is broken. :c
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I agree with the general consensus that Anachromance and He Said She Said are the strongest tracks, but after a few listens the title track has grown on me a lot as well.
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We got reviewed by totally rad Canadian music blogger Matthew at i(heart)music!!
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Johnny wrote "American Lover" about me.

(This is what I tell myself every time I listen to it.)
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Yeah Johnny, good to have the lyrics up. You are awesome!
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Johnny, this stuff sounds like something I would listen to if I were a character in High Fidelity. If you ever manage to make your way to the US, I'd love to try to book something with you guys.
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I am not sure what I expected this to sound like but this is definitely not it. Hooray These Estates, you are the new troubadours of my heart. Also the mix sounds pretty damn nice for a first E.P. The snare drum could use some work but the guitars sound amazing.
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i want denim jacket kid's shirt
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he was wearing it at the time
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And he has the eyes of a guy who would kill a man for trying to take his t-shirt.
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The "release," such as it is, will be at the end of this month. If you've used PayPal you can buy it and the 192kbps download will be offered for free. I am going to try and work out a system so that you can download and make your own art. In the meantime here is a preview of what the art looks like.



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1) Ryan, come see Architects & Builders on Aug. 24th at the Club.

2) If anyone has any ideas for press outlets or labels to send stuff to please let me know. I'm starting the media push - what little of it there is.
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hey if you guys are ever interested in playing a show in the northwest you should let me know 'cause i could hook you up with a show in a second and it'd be pretty cool to do a show together. my band has managed to become fairly established in the seattle area and are pretty good friends with some of the more popular local bands so we could probably get something pretty legit going.

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Well our Bandcamp website is finally finished and you can actually buy our EP on it now.

The price structure breaks down as follows. You can still download the thing for free if you want, either in 128 kbps or the 192kbps M***af**e link from earlier in the thread, but if you would prefer to hear it in higher quality (anything from v0 mp3 to lossless) you can buy it - track by track, I'm asking at least $1.00 CAD per track, or at least $5.00 CAD for the whole shebang.

That's it! If you like us and you can afford it, please drop a couple bones on the record. It comes with printable album art that you fold up using this method. I think you can burn as many copies as you want.
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Man if I had any money I would buy it
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You don't have $5 Canadian? Isn't that worth, like, two pebbles? Two shitty pebbles?
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Read my previous statement more slowly Dovey
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I'm crossposting the following, so please ignore the tildes and lack of caps:



so for a tour fundraiser in march my band is going to be putting together a ~*live karaoke night*~ and i'm just wondering what you guys think when you look at this list of song suggestions. we're going to cap requests at like 40-ish so that we can have it go for a reasonable amount of time.

the way we're planning on working is: we're going to post the list of songs on like thursday of this week, and then we're going to start doing a media ~blitz~ to get the word out. first people who are going to get a crack at this are local alt-scene celebs, who we're going to let do it for free. for everyone else there's going to be a pricing tier where you get different stuff at each tier, but the basic level is that you get to do karaoke PLUS you get a live .mp3 of your performance. (we haven't hashed out all the deets for this yet.) we're considering cooking dinner for the top tier.

the idea is that you select your song ahead of time so we know what to practice. we're aiming for like 40 songs but if we come way under we're still going to push the fuck out of the event and practice a "potpourri" selection of tunes that will then make it to that night, and we'll publish a signup sheet for that night that will basically be first-come first-serve. since we are also capping it and trying to do it in advance we're also going to offer to learn whatever song you actually want us to learn. i think.

so ok. here's the list, there's the structure. anyone have any thoughts or ideas or SUGGESTIONS

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ARCADE FIRE: Rebellion, Neighbourhood #1

B-52s: Rock Lobster, Love Shack

BAND: The Weight

BARENAKED LADIES: Alcohol

BEATLES: Hey Jude

BIG BLACK: Cables, L Dopa, Big Money, Bad Penny

BLOC PARTY: Banquet, Helicopters

BLONDIE: Call Me

BROKEN SOCIAL SCENE:7/4 Shoreline, Ibi Dreams of Pavement

BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN: Thunder Road, Glory Days, Born To Run

CONSTANTINES: Workin Full Time, Nighttime Anytime, Hotline Operator

CURE: In Between Days, Friday I'm In Love

DAVID BOWIE: Heroes, Young Americans

DEATH CAB FOR CUTIE: Title & Registration, Soul Meets Body, I Will Follow You Into the Dark

DECEMBERISTS: 16 Military Wives

DEVO: Jocko Homo, Mongoloid, Girl U Want, Uncontrollable Urge

DFA1979: Romantic Rights

DINOSAUR JR: Just Like Heaven

DIO: Holy Diver

DIRTY PROJECTORS: Stillness Is The Move

ELECTRIC 6: Danger High Voltage

ELVIS COSTELLO: Pump It Up, Allison, Radio Radio

FLAMING LIPS: Do You Realize, The WAND, Yeah Yeah Yeah

FRANZ FERDINAND: This Fire

FUCKED UP: David Comes To Life, Twice Born

GANG OF FOUR: I Found That Essence Rare, Damaged Goods

GIRLS: Lust For Life

HOLD STEADY: Stuck Between Stations, Yr Little Hoodrat Friend, Most People Are DJs

HÜSKER DÜ: Makes No Sense At All, Don't Want to Know if You’re Lonely

IRON MAIDEN: Wrathchild

JOEL PLASKETT: Million Dollars, Drunk Teenagers

JOY DIVISION: Transmission, Disorder

JUDAS PRIEST: Breaking The Law, You Got Another Thing Coming

LADYHAWK: The Dugout, Teenage Love Song

LCD SOUNDSYSTEM: Daft Punk Is Playing At My House

LOU REED: Walk On The Wild Side

M.I.A.: Paper Planes

MAXIMO PARK: Apply Some Pressure

MCLUSKY: Lightsabre Cocksucking Blues

METRIC: Dead Disco, Combat Baby

MGMT: Kids

MODERN LOVERS: Roadrunner, Dignified and Old, Modern World (anything off that first album, really)

MODEST MOUSE: Dramamine, Talking Shit About a Pretty Sunset, Tiny Cities Made of Ashes, Neverending Math Equation, Bury Me With It

MOUNTAIN GOATS: Best Ever Death Metal Band Out Of Denton, This Year

NATIONAL: Fake Empire, Mistaken For Strangers, Apartment Story

NETURAL MILK HOTEL: Holland 1945

NEW PORNOGRAPHERS: Graceland, Use It, Slow Descent, Electric Version

OKKERVIL RIVER: Black

ORGAN: Brother

PARAMORE: That's What You Get, Crush Crush Crush, Ignorance

PAVEMENT: Cut Your Hair, Range Life

PIXIES: Gigantic, Here Comes Yr Man, Wave Of Mutilation, Debaser, Dig for Fire

R.E.M.: Radio Free Europe

RADIOHEAD: The National Anthem, Karma Police, 2+2=5, There There, Weird Fishes/Arpeggi

REFUSED: New Noise

REPLACEMENTS: I Will Dare, Sixteen Blue, Bastards Of Young, Kiss Me On The Bus

RUSH: Spirit Of The Radio, Closer To The Heart, Fly By Night

SEBADOH: Gimme Indie Rock, The Freed Pig

SHINS, THE: So Says I

SLEATER-KINNEY: You're No Rock'N'Roll Fun, Oh!

SLOAN: Money City Maniacs, Underwhelmed, Everything You've Done Wrong, If It Feels Good Do It (we will learn any other Sloan song you want)

SMITHS: This Charming Man, There Is A Light

SONIC YOUTH: Teenage Riot, 100%

STOOGES: Wanna Be Yr Dog, TV Eye

TALKING HEADS: Burning Down The House, Psycho Killer, Life During Wartime

TEENAGE FANCLUB: What You Do To Me, It's All In My Mind

TELEVISION: See No Evil, Venus de Milo

THERMALS: Pillar of Salt

TRAIL OF DEAD: Worlds Apart

TV ON THE RADIO: Wolf Like Me, Staring At The Sun

VELVET UNDERGROUND: I'm Waiting For The Man

WALKMEN: The Rat

WEAKERTHANS: The Reasons, Aside, Plea From A Cat, Watermark, Reconstruction Site

WEEZER: Buddy Holly, Why Bother, The Good Life, Pink Triangle, El Scorcho, Island in the Sun, Keep Fishing, Surf Wax America (actually we will learn any song up to Maladroit)

WHITE STRIPES: Fell In Love With A Girl

WILCO: Pot Kettle Black, Heavy Metal Drummer, War On War

WOLF PARADE: Shine A Light, Sons & Daughters of Hungry Ghosts, I'll Believe in Anything

YO LA TENGO: Autumn Sweater
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Fuck, this is a really rad idea and I'm upset I don't live in Regina.

There's better songs by Electric Six depending on how popular they are with your fanbase in the first place.
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Do a Metric song! Maybe Gimmie Sympathy.
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Fuck, this is a really rad idea and I'm upset I don't live in Regina.

Well man we cribbed it from bands in bigger cities.
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Yeah for once I agree with Gene. I'd totally do the Best Ever Death Metal Band out of Denton... the only thing I can think of is to just straight up take requests and not have a list at all. It just seems simpler
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Do not even attempt to cover Young Americans unless you have a crackerjack sax player on hand. Otherwise the point?
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The rationale for the list is just so we give people something to work with. People can also request whatever the hell they want to sing, within reason, and we'll learn it.

Do not even attempt to cover Young Americans unless you have a crackerjack sax player on hand. Otherwise the point?

Done. We had a horn section at our EP release and we're aiming to have one around for local shows whenever possible, I think.
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Yeah for once I agree with Gene. I'd totally do the Best Ever Death Metal Band out of Denton... the only thing I can think of is to just straight up take requests and not have a list at all. It just seems simpler

What are we agreeing on?
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Do a quasi-cover of New York's Alright If You Like Saxophones by Fear but rewrite the lyrics so they're about Winnipeg.

Cover:

PRINCE-
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You're in Canada and there is no Weakerthans?

One Great City! would be my recommendation.


Edited because I am blind as a bat but don't have the SONAR abilities.
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Fuck that.

I'd go with Plea from a Cat Named Virtute, Aside, and Watermark.
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LIMP BIZKIT-
Behind Blue Eyes

OK so I know yr doing this to deliberately get a rise out of folks but hhhhrrrnnnngggggg nonetheless
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Weakerthans are sandwiched between Constantines and Hold Steady.
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What are we agreeing on?
Fuck, this is a really rad idea and I'm upset I don't live in Regina.

that part! yay!
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Play more Maiden, you faggots.
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The list is really long so I haven't finished looking at it but how do you have Arcade Fire and no Wake Up, it's so fun to sing...

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why did you spell i will follow you into the dark like that... you should add Sound of Settling just because.
also, for Okkervil River, add The Latest Toughs! And maybe Unless It's Kicks? that one is quite a bit wordy though. well wait it's will sheff

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And yes, Metric is good, also if you do have horns, Sex Bomb.
And more Beatles. Duh.
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Seriously though play more Maiden
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Man if I had any money I would buy it

i would believe you if you did not have a long history of untruths and utter falsehoods.

i will add this one to the list. Liar.
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what
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Hey JD, I really like your penis, man.

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It's in alphabetical order now!
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[02:12] yuniorpocalypse: let's talk about girls
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Do 'Work Hard/Play Hard' by Palace Music.
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MODERN LOVERS: Roadrunner, Dignified and Old, Modern World (anything off that first album, really)

Considering hitchhiking to Regina to do a karaoke version of "I"m Straight".
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Do "Pablo Picasso" instead.
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I'll keep that one up my sleeve for the encore.
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the Long Winters "Prom Night at Hater High"

You guys seem like you could play the hell out of that song.
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