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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2100 on: 10 Sep 2009, 11:47 »

I've become fairly certain that a strong general sense of entitlement is the worst character trait a person can have, and that link doesn't do anything to dissuade me from that opinion.
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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2101 on: 10 Sep 2009, 11:50 »

I tend to stay away from the comments on articles like this. They tend to consist of lengthy analyses or rants against/with the blog author. I had a cursory glance, and a number do seem rather weird. Mostly women apparently wanting to copulate with the blog author.
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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2102 on: 10 Sep 2009, 15:25 »

That first article actually kind of hit home for me...I didn't realize it at the time, but I went from nice guy to Nice Guy once that girl had (temporarily) broken up with her boyfriend.  I'm a nice guy again, but that article pointed out a lot of behaviors I didn't recognize would put me down the Nice Guy route, which I think I can avoid now.  I've felt guilty for a lot of the stuff I did, and it's kind of cathartic seeing it laid out before me like that.  So I guess thanks is in order?  It just cleared up a lot of stuff I had been thinking about recently.
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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2103 on: 10 Sep 2009, 15:29 »

Second one is strange. I can't agree with the Nice Guy Rant, but at the same time I don't agree with all the things that the blogger is saying. He rants as much as the Nice Guy does, so his arguments come across rather badly.

I guess the second one was ranting, that's true, but c'mon how can you not love

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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2104 on: 10 Sep 2009, 15:32 »

That was a really good part. The massive block capitals paragraph was a bit unreadable though.
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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2105 on: 10 Sep 2009, 15:38 »

Jens give us an update on Mixtape Girl! I want to know what has been going down over in Norway.
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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2106 on: 10 Sep 2009, 15:45 »

Maybe she really, really hated the music...

You didn't put any sickly love songs on there by any chance? Or maybe she wanted you to and now thinks you're not interested because you didn't...
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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2107 on: 10 Sep 2009, 15:49 »

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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2108 on: 10 Sep 2009, 15:49 »

I don't get this nice guy thing.

I mean, if I'm being nice to a girl who I like, because I genuinely enjoy being nice to people, will she assume I'm being creepy?
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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2109 on: 10 Sep 2009, 15:50 »

No, that's just being a regular nice guy. The problem is when you become a Nice Guy and start being nice just because you want sex.
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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2110 on: 10 Sep 2009, 15:52 »

Oh, I get it now. Stupid moment.

You don't start being nice if you want sex. You start being sexy.
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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2111 on: 10 Sep 2009, 15:53 »

http://divalion.livejournal.com/163615.html#cutid1
http://mightygodking.com/index.php/2007/12/16/the-internet-nice-guy-rears-his-ugly-head-once-more

i'd like to be the first to say that these articles are shit. utter shit.

i didn't even finish the second one because it gave me such a tremendous headache.
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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2112 on: 10 Sep 2009, 15:53 »

Maybe she really, really hated the music...

Maybe she doesn't have a tape deck. And really if you think about it, is that the kind of person you want to be involved with? Someone who doesn't own a tape deck. Terrible.
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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2113 on: 10 Sep 2009, 15:55 »

why are we having the Nice Guy debate again?
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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2114 on: 10 Sep 2009, 15:56 »

Cos I brought it up again. Sorry.
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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2115 on: 10 Sep 2009, 15:58 »

That's really not what I meant  :-(

OK I give up.
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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2116 on: 10 Sep 2009, 16:00 »

Cos I brought it up again. Sorry.

to be fair, Josef brought it up before you.

Guys, the Nice Guy debate is never going to make sense or end well because it is a stupid concept. Sooner or later it will end with "Man, assholes always get the girls because women like to be treated like SHIT" or something along those lines.
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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2117 on: 10 Sep 2009, 19:34 »

And really if you think about it, is that the kind of person you want to be involved with? Someone who doesn't own a tape deck. Terrible.

The answer is "yes."  Tape decks are affronts to music and should be obliterated.

About the nice guy argument, I'm an asshole, why can't I get women?
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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2118 on: 10 Sep 2009, 19:44 »

Because you're a fucking asshole!* Nobody actually likes assholes!**

Also that large capybara has a creepy eye. The little one is cute, though.

*Not really. **This part, however, is actually true.
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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2119 on: 10 Sep 2009, 19:45 »

Maybe it is the way you smell.
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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2120 on: 10 Sep 2009, 19:49 »

Hey!  I smell like the finest malt liquors.

Nobody actually likes assholes!**

But all those nice guys said...  Oh.  Oh my.  I'm going to have to take this in for a second.
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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2121 on: 10 Sep 2009, 19:50 »

Oh, I get it now. Stupid moment.

You don't start being nice if you want sex. You start being sexy.

I'm quoting this just because I liked it.

Oh, um, QFT?
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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2122 on: 10 Sep 2009, 20:36 »

Are you trying to be nice with bbq? Does that mean you want sex with him?
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« Reply #2123 on: 10 Sep 2009, 20:41 »

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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2124 on: 10 Sep 2009, 21:29 »

Goddamnit I read that first article and now I am starting to think I am one of these asshole nice guys instead of an actual nice guy just because I have intimacy issues, fuck you guys for bringing this ridiculous idea back into my working consciousness.

I actually have a pretty good story about how I basically cut some dudes grass the other night because he's indecisive and I'm ,an arsehole but I'm not really sure if I'm comfortable just postin' that up here for all to see.
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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2125 on: 10 Sep 2009, 21:49 »

Is "cut his grass" some sort of sexual euphemism?

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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2126 on: 10 Sep 2009, 21:55 »

it means steppin' IN when they won't STEP UP yo

It's not specifically sexual really, like if you're a salesperson and you close a sale someone else has been working on all day you have cut that guys grass as well.
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« Reply #2127 on: 10 Sep 2009, 21:56 »

Probably because Mister Bainter is also a libertarian.

I'm not really sure what a libertarian is.  I've really only dabbled in politics the last year or so of my life.  My views are open to change, but I will fight for the way I see something until someone shows me a better way.

As far as being a douche.  

What's your definition?  based on this, i'm probably a douche.  However, hear me out.

my take on it - My current girlfriend (of a little over 8 months) first thought I was a douche too.  It took her a couple weeks of getting to know me before she told me I'm not as much of an asshat that I seem to be.  again, everything is perspective and that is probably just hers  :roll:

Im a bit abrassive when I want to be, and sometimes my humor conflicts with this as well.  *hard to tell when i'm joking.  It happens quite often.  This is why there is select people here that think or "know" i'm a douche.  Make sense?   I'm not really that bad a person :angel:  Just depends on who you are  :wink:

P.s. If I seem less douchie lately it's because i've been so busy with school/work/new baby(long story) that I have really very little energy to keep up with my douchbaggery.

*especially online.
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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2128 on: 10 Sep 2009, 22:03 »

Zingoleb wants to have sex with everyone these days

With my massive meany, that is.
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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2129 on: 10 Sep 2009, 22:24 »

it means steppin' IN when they won't STEP UP yo

It's not specifically sexual really, like if you're a salesperson and you close a sale someone else has been working on all day you have cut that guys grass as well.

haha, never heard it put that way.  Nice.
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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2130 on: 11 Sep 2009, 00:12 »

Is "cut his grass" some sort of sexual euphemism?

Mowing their lawn, cutting their lunch, all mean trying to get a piece of somebody elses action.
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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2131 on: 11 Sep 2009, 01:14 »

Trimming their hedges, however, refers to something else entirely.
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« Reply #2132 on: 11 Sep 2009, 01:28 »

Well I appear to have created controversy, I honestly didn't mean to, I just wanted to try and clear some things up for myself.

I think the main difference between Nice Guys and nice guys (NG and ng from now on as I am not writing the word nice over and over) is that NG's are interested in sex alone, without any sort of emotional attachment to the lady in question. That would be fine if they were honest with themselves about it, instead NG's decide to pretend that they are only interested in whats "best" for the girl and tend to try and pick up the devastatingly attractive "goes out with bad boy" type girl and make her all better.

At least those are my thoughts on it, my personal opinion is although its okay to be nice its better to be good. Also, if you have intamacy issues why not see a therapist? I mean I am not really one to be talking here, but if you have a problem that relates solely to you, surely the onus is on you to fix it? Sorry if that comes across as cruel, but maybe it would be best to try and stop having intamacy issues than moaning about them?

Also I was just wondering Mr War Machine, why did you not like the articles? I know the second one wasn't that good (and a bit irritatint) but I didn't think they were utter shit.
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Re: The Relationship, Or Lack Thereof, Advice Thread
« Reply #2133 on: 11 Sep 2009, 01:59 »

Dangerous, but sexy!
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« Reply #2134 on: 11 Sep 2009, 02:03 »

Its dangerous, but everyone does it. Besides which, the human race isn't quite as distinct as we like to think, for the most part we all generally fall into the same tropes, even people who are breaking the mold do so in specific ways.

Plus with this sort of thing at least its not arguing as the gospel truth, everyone is going to interpret them in a different way. I'm just trying to look at the positives and hopefully steer clear of the pitfalls.
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« Reply #2135 on: 11 Sep 2009, 02:14 »

True enough. But isn't that a good thing? I would argue that the truth, the real truth, that nothing you will do or ever do will matter to the universe at all is pretty horrifying. Its a lot easier to believe that what you do matters, otherwise why bother doing anything at all?

Anyway, I am starting to sound as if I should be in "discuss" atm, so I will shut up.
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« Reply #2136 on: 11 Sep 2009, 02:17 »

So that's what I've been doing wrong...I knew telling the truth was a bad idea...
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« Reply #2137 on: 11 Sep 2009, 04:56 »

I am only nice to the girls until I can get them back to the RapeVan. I feel that it is poorly named as very little rape has ever happened in or around the van. They usually don't like the sound of RapeVan, but if they would just go to the van they would get cupcakes and brownies and free tshirts.
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« Reply #2139 on: 11 Sep 2009, 08:14 »

you can't handle the truth, unless you're sexy.
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« Reply #2140 on: 11 Sep 2009, 08:15 »

True enough. But isn't that a good thing? I would argue that the truth, the real truth, that nothing you will do or ever do will matter to the universe at all is pretty horrifying. Its a lot easier to believe that what you do matters, otherwise why bother doing anything at all?

Somebody likes nihilism.
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« Reply #2141 on: 11 Sep 2009, 10:06 »

I don't LIKE it, it's just what I have seen, a little bit anyway. Theres no point moaning about things not being "fair" but thats no reason to go off moaning as if its the universes fault.

Also you can still be nice enough and be a nihilist, personally I think that people make their own meanings out of life.
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« Reply #2142 on: 11 Sep 2009, 11:17 »

Meanings that don't matter, anyway.


Seriously, nihilism isn't so bad once you make up your mind not to be a li'l bitch about it.
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« Reply #2143 on: 11 Sep 2009, 11:42 »

I mean, really, what kind of narcissistic personality disorder is the human race afflicted with if we must believe that what we do has an impact on some transcendental scale?
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« Reply #2144 on: 11 Sep 2009, 12:58 »

EVERYTHING I DO CHANGES SOMEONE'S LIFE.

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« Reply #2145 on: 11 Sep 2009, 13:44 »

please you can't even change yoself

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« Reply #2146 on: 11 Sep 2009, 13:52 »

I adjusted myself just now and I'm pretty sure it sundered galaxies.
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« Reply #2147 on: 11 Sep 2009, 14:01 »

EVERYTHING I DO CHANGES SOMEONE'S LIFE.

Everything I do changes at least one person's life.  That person is the most important person in the world to me, too, so I guess I lucked out in being really important to such an awesome person.
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« Reply #2148 on: 11 Sep 2009, 15:34 »

The Nice Guy seems to feel like he should be paid in sex or something.


This has actually nothing to do with Nice Guys or regular dudes or whatever. I just wanted to point out that people who believe that actually exist. One was my boyfriend not too long ago. This is a problem and should not be a mentality that people have! It kind of sucks!
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« Reply #2149 on: 11 Sep 2009, 16:40 »

please you can't even change yoself

You're like the mean, discourage older brother. Probably the favorite, too.

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