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UNDER DA SEA!!
« on: 05 Mar 2009, 14:24 »

More cryptic musings about Bioshock 2.  Not much by the way of information.

There's something in the sea and, for those that have already forgotten, the teaser trailer
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« Reply #1 on: 05 Mar 2009, 14:40 »

just saw this on Kotaku earlier but haven't been to the site yet since it sounds like there's not much there anyway.

oh well, i'm fucking stoked nonetheless.
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« Reply #2 on: 05 Mar 2009, 15:57 »

It sounds to me like you're the father of the little kidnapped girl and the game is about you trying to get her back.
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« Reply #3 on: 05 Mar 2009, 18:15 »

At the very least, the site seems to imply that the Big Daddys are surfacing to steal little girls.
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« Reply #4 on: 05 Mar 2009, 18:38 »

I thought this was going to be thread about O'dell Down Under. I'm pretty disappointed.
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« Reply #5 on: 05 Mar 2009, 18:42 »

I did not know that great white sharks could eat coral until I played that game.

Incidentally they looked like they were having seizures when they devoured something.
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« Reply #6 on: 05 Mar 2009, 20:41 »

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« Reply #7 on: 06 Mar 2009, 02:45 »

Somebody hasn't played O'Dell Down Under.
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Re: UNDER DA SEA!!
« Reply #8 on: 06 Mar 2009, 07:55 »

under the sea? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzrIBut8Fo8


I'm pretty exited by this. Bioshock was amazing, I expect nothing but amazing from Bioshock 2. But I guess they haven't come out with much info on gameplay yet.

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« Reply #9 on: 06 Mar 2009, 10:12 »

So, how far after the events of the original is this going to be?  I thought the entire point in Bioshock was that Rapture was breaking down, regardless of what you did.

Although, there were entire areas of thecity that we never explored.  Bah, who knows.
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« Reply #10 on: 06 Mar 2009, 12:25 »

The original Bioshock took place in 1960. The year scrawled on the teaser page is 1967. So the little girl in question is now a tween.

And as you probably noticed from the first game the Big Daddies went about their Rapture business as though everything was fine. So Ozy's theory is plausible.
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« Reply #11 on: 06 Mar 2009, 14:13 »

I thought this was going to be thread about O'dell Down Under. I'm pretty disappointed.

Now I want to play that game again.
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« Reply #12 on: 07 Mar 2009, 16:07 »

Oh man. I never really finished Bioshock. I need to buy it and finish it. And then perhaps, play through it again.
I'm pretty excited for this.
I hope it's not a crappy sequel just for money. I doubt it will be.
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« Reply #13 on: 07 Mar 2009, 22:56 »

I thought this was going to be thread about O'dell Down Under. I'm pretty disappointed.

I thought this was going to be about Eco Quest.
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« Reply #15 on: 08 Mar 2009, 23:16 »

I was all "big daddies aren't thin" when i checked the site.Glad I was right.

what could be interesting is if they worked together. "Big parents" so to speak.
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« Reply #16 on: 09 Mar 2009, 07:19 »




http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=210065

I heard Jordan Thomas, Creative Director on Bioshock 2 at 2K Marin, worked as lead designer on Thief: Deadly Shadow and designed Fort Frolic area on Bioshock 1. Zak McClendon, Lead Designer on Bioshock 2, worked on systems / level designer on Project: Snowblind at Crystal Dynamics.
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« Reply #17 on: 09 Mar 2009, 14:56 »

More stuffs up, take a look.
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« Reply #18 on: 10 Mar 2009, 05:00 »

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The site featured a fictional news story of a kidnapped girl, and the description of the attacker seemed to echo that of a Big Daddy -- except for a few key distinctions. The story says the attacker had "incredible speed," and that this person was "thin, above average height, and wore some kind of 'red light.'" Incredibly fast, thin, and above average height... does that sound like an average Big Daddy to you?

Not to nitpick here (I'm totally nitpicking), but except for the thin part, I remember Big Daddies were huge and tall and unusually fast for their size. I was gored many a time by a Big Daddy charging me from across the room.
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« Reply #19 on: 10 Mar 2009, 11:20 »

I was many a-time out maneuvered by one of those son'bitches, and anyway I mentioned the skinny part in my post. I'm just playing off what they said in the article.

I'm guessing the Big Mommas will be even more difficult than their predecessors.

Oh yeah wasn't this game supposed to be a prequel? What happened?
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« Reply #20 on: 10 Mar 2009, 13:21 »

It's supposedly both a prequel and a sequel, so I'm guessing it's taking place chronologically after the first game but it deals with events occurring prior to Bioshock, or something to that effect.

If I were to take a wild guess I'd say that Rapture is still alive, perhaps rebuilding itself with its legions of Big Daddies, and it's dispatched faster "Big Mommas" as agents to retrieve the little sisters (as obviously the good ending of Bioshock is canon) so that ADAM harvesting can begin anew. It's also possible the girl abducted is not one of the little sisters from the first game.
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« Reply #21 on: 10 Mar 2009, 16:11 »

oh snap


(no new information, but there is a pretty picture)
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Re: UNDER DA SEA!!
« Reply #22 on: 10 Mar 2009, 23:49 »

Re: chronology, the very first letter on the site mentioned in the O.P. is clearly dated 1967. So there's that.

EDIT: Also, I hope that the Big Sisters are a bit more challenging to kill than the Big Daddies (by which I mean I hope you can't, on the normal difficulty setting, simply pump them full of electro-gel and watch them go down like a sack of potatoes).
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« Reply #23 on: 11 Mar 2009, 19:45 »

I very much do not like the look of that thing on the Big Sister's arm.
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« Reply #24 on: 13 Mar 2009, 16:40 »

Big news folks
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« Reply #25 on: 13 Mar 2009, 19:32 »

HOLY. FUCKING. SHIT.
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« Reply #26 on: 13 Mar 2009, 19:42 »

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« Reply #27 on: 13 Mar 2009, 20:01 »

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« Reply #28 on: 14 Mar 2009, 05:58 »

holy crap that's rad
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« Reply #29 on: 14 Mar 2009, 07:49 »

My brain is broken now.
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« Reply #30 on: 14 Mar 2009, 08:41 »

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« Reply #31 on: 14 Mar 2009, 11:24 »

I'm calling it right now:


The Big Sister is Tenenbaum
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« Reply #32 on: 14 Mar 2009, 12:00 »

Well I guess that's different. Doesn't bode particularly well for game balance, but whatever.

Actually it would be easy for this to suck. One of the shittiest parts of Bioshock 1 was the part in which you put on the Big Daddy costume and followed the Little Sister around, and not just because it came after the reveal. I loathe escort missions, and (apparently, I've heard) having the girls harvest ADAM for you will produce the same "wave spawn" of splicers as it did in that sequence.

On the bright side you'll probably see Rapture deteriorate as it happens, which will be fun I guess?
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« Reply #33 on: 14 Mar 2009, 13:58 »

Wait, the game takes place during the fall of Rapture?
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« Reply #34 on: 14 Mar 2009, 14:45 »

I'm assuming that's the case, else it wouldn't make a lot of sense to make the PC the "first big daddy". What was he doing during the events of the first game? Why would it take him over 6/7 years (roughly, I'm not terribly familiar with the timeline laid out by the first game) to start his search? It's also possible it could be an Opposing Force-esque "sequel" that runs parallel to the first game's story. Besides, 2K Boston hit pay dirt with the antagonist of Andrew Ryan, and there has to be an urge to go with what works instead of trying (and likely failing) to top the first game.

Admittedly there's a lot of stuff that doesn't seem to fit together at the moment, like the Big Daddy revelation and all the stuff on the Promo site. What the promo site hinted at seems to me to be a stronger premise than "you are a prototype Big Daddy and you want to find a Little Sister of your very own". A dumb and mute giant doesn't make for an appealing protagonist outside of the fact that you can do all sorts of damage.
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« Reply #35 on: 14 Mar 2009, 15:03 »

Hell, even the teaser trailer hinted at more than that.
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« Reply #36 on: 14 Mar 2009, 16:08 »

Part of me wishes I hadn't found that out, but damn, that game is going to be the shit.

When I looked through those articles on Under The Sea I got the impression of Big Daddy + Spider Splicer. I guess I was right somehow. Do those Big Sisters swim?
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« Reply #37 on: 15 Mar 2009, 03:29 »

This better not be a giant escort mission.
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« Reply #38 on: 15 Mar 2009, 05:20 »

This can be so many kinds of bad and just a few kinds of good. I hope they can do this without fucking up.
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« Reply #39 on: 16 Mar 2009, 05:05 »

That news was kind of a whole lot of nothing.
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« Reply #40 on: 16 Mar 2009, 05:35 »

The sort that I'd never play. Just like every other sort of multiplayer mode!

Oh wait, I played Ico in multiplayer mode once. The multiplayer mode in Ico is awful.
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« Reply #41 on: 16 Mar 2009, 06:18 »

Actually I'm lying, I played Time Splitters 2 in split-screen multiplayer mode all the way through the main storyline with my brother and it was awesome. But 99% of my gaming is done on P.C. and playing multiplayer games online against people who spend every spare minute of their life perfecting their skills in that particular game holds little or no appeal to me.

Oh also, multiplayer mode in San Andreas. Man, did that suck!

EDIT: Actually I'm going to tell you all about the multiplayer mode in Ico, because you probably haven't played it and it was hilariously bad. It was one of the things you unlocked as a reward for finishing the game. If you've played Ico, you'll know that there are two characters: Ico, and Princess Whatsername. Princess Whatsername has only two functions: look winsome, and open doors. She's pretty good at both. The rest of the time she spends being threatened by black inky ghosts, and compulsively running towards Ico whenever he calls her.

In the multiplayer mode, the second player plays as Princess Whatsername.

If person playing as Ico presses the "call Princess" button, the Princess will go running towards him. The person playing as the Princess has no control over this.

If you've played Shadow of the Colossus, it's like unlocking a multiplayer mode, and the second player gets to play as the horse.
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« Reply #42 on: 16 Mar 2009, 09:50 »

Well, comparing co-op in other games to Timesplitters is usually going to make the other game look bad, anyways.
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« Reply #43 on: 18 Mar 2009, 16:05 »

Well, damn. I read that the makers have plans to make Bioshock into a running series (like GTA) of maybe even five parts. I think it would be hard pressed to trump the first Bioshock with a sequel, let alone four of them. How are they ever going to pull that off?
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« Reply #44 on: 18 Mar 2009, 16:13 »

i'm not sure why, but for some reason, i have faith in them. for now.

we'll see how i feel after playing 2, but at this point i'm feeling pretty good about it.
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« Reply #45 on: 19 Mar 2009, 03:31 »

Anyone else that keeps watching the updates on that teaser page? Even though they are making a hype, it's the best hype-making I've ever seen. I will buy this game so much.
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« Reply #46 on: 19 Mar 2009, 11:31 »

Hey, here's a thought: Jack probably couldn't have saved (or killed) every last one of them Little Sisters, so what could have happened when they grew up is that they got  made in Big Sisters. But who would have done that? It's not like there's anyone left in Rapture capable of creating more of these monstrosities.

Another thing: We never saw the Teleport plasmid in the first Bioshock. Maybe we can get it this time...
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« Reply #47 on: 20 Mar 2009, 10:37 »

just in case there's some crazy people out there who don't read Kotaku religiously (what is wrong with you?!):

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« Reply #48 on: 20 Mar 2009, 22:59 »

So from hat I got from the GI article, it's one Big Sister, who you fight constantly, and she is a BITCH.  She can siphon Adam directly into her bloodstream from corpses, fueling her rape-tastic TK powers.  On the plus side, you are a Big Daddy.  Your primary melee weapon is THE DRILL.

And now, you can use plasmids and weapons AT THE SAME TIME.

And, apparently, due to the Big Sister's influence and several other factors, a large portion of Rapture is still stable.  In fact, there is still a whole lot of city that Jack didn't explore.
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« Reply #49 on: 22 Mar 2009, 10:57 »

Big Sister is basically Nemesis/SA-X/Dark Samus, in other words.

Which is cool.

I love that gameplay mechanic when used well. I just hope they do it less scripted than the aforementioned games.
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