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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #50 on: 08 Apr 2009, 11:34 »

Blue

NMH
Slint

Yellow

Ok Computer
Blue train

Green

Joy Division
Abbey Road

Orange

Pixies
Pet Sounds

My criteria for voting is always, "hmm.. which album would I want to listen to at this moment in my life". I find that amg bignamealbums like Sgt. Peppers rarely win. I know why it's important. I know how good it is. But I almost never feel like listening to it.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #51 on: 08 Apr 2009, 12:46 »

Of course it's not! But I don't for a second expect Sgt. Pepper's to go all the way.

I doubt NMH would last against any album on the other side except maybe the Clash (how are they still up there by the way, what are you people thinking)
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #52 on: 08 Apr 2009, 13:07 »

Blue

Neutral Milk Hotel
Slint

Green

Mogwai
Bob Dylan

Yellow

Public Enemy
Miles Davis

Red

Pixies
The Clash
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #53 on: 08 Apr 2009, 14:21 »

I doubt NMH would last against any album on the other side except maybe the Clash (how are they still up there by the way, what are you people thinking)

We're thinking that London Calling is a really great fucking rock 'n' roll album, Johnny. Stop listening with your head and start listening with your heart!
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #54 on: 08 Apr 2009, 14:52 »

Better yet.. listen with your hears!
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #55 on: 08 Apr 2009, 16:15 »

i'm getting to a point in this competition where i think all the albums i would've voted for over aeroplane have been dropped by people with different taste to me...still aeroplane/slint is going to be a son of a bitch if i have to vote it
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #56 on: 08 Apr 2009, 17:19 »

We're thinking that London Calling is a really great fucking rock 'n' roll album, Johnny. Stop listening with your head and start listening with your heart!

I was just in talks with my heart, and it let me know it was going out of the office for a couple weeks and to redirect London Calling to my ass instead.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #57 on: 08 Apr 2009, 17:47 »

London Calling is really pretty boring.  Gang of Four did a similar thing so much better.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #58 on: 08 Apr 2009, 18:18 »

BLUE:

NMH
Bob Dylan

YELLOW:

Public Enemy
John Coltrane

GREEN:

Joy Division
The Beatles

ORANGE:

Low
Beach Boys

This list has all my exact votes.  Count it as mine as well.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #59 on: 08 Apr 2009, 18:29 »

BLUE
Sgt.Pepper’s
Bringing It All Back Home

YELLOW
It Takes a Nation Of Millions
Kind Of Blue

GREEN
Unknown Pleasures
Highway 61

ORANGE

Surfer Rosa
Pet Sounds
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #60 on: 08 Apr 2009, 18:35 »

BLUE

Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea
Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home


YELLOW

Radiohead - OK COmputer
N/A


GREEN

Mogwai - Happy Songs For Happy People
Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited


ORANGE

Low - Things We Lost In The Fire
N/A
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #61 on: 09 Apr 2009, 03:42 »

i'm getting to a point in this competition where i think all the albums i would've voted for over aeroplane have been dropped by people with different taste to me...still aeroplane/slint is going to be a son of a bitch if i have to vote it


This. Kinda.  :-(
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #62 on: 09 Apr 2009, 08:39 »

Ok, now I gotta vote too.

Blue
The Beatles
Bob Dylan

Yellow
Radiohead
Miles Davis

Green
N/A
Bob Dylan

Orange
N/A
The Clash

Seriously. It's The friggin' Clash. London Calling is about as good as music gets.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #63 on: 09 Apr 2009, 10:23 »

BLUE
Sgt. Pepper's
Spiderland

YELLOW
It Takes A Nation...
Blue Train

GREEN
Unknown Pleasures
Abbey Road

FLESH
Surfer Rosa
London Calling
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #64 on: 09 Apr 2009, 23:30 »

runs a bit counter to the idea of giving everyone a vote in the first place.

I think that this is only true if you just had a list of albums that were all weighted equally and it was simply the album with the most votes is the winner. The moment you add more rules and have situations where a vote for one album is equivalent to voting against another album and this exchange can have an effect on a later part of the game you give players the mechanisms to play with strategy and playing naively is not a strategy that leads to winning. This means that you probably shouldn't put too much weight in the outcome of the game and if you wanted to poll which was the most popular album you would be better off just doing a straight up poll.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #65 on: 10 Apr 2009, 04:55 »

Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
Bringing It All Back Home

OK Computer
N/A (ooh, jazz vs. jazz)

Unkown Pleasures
Highway 61 Revisited
Surfer Rosa
London Calling


This round is the first time I've struggled. Sorry Public Enemy and Beach Boys!
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #66 on: 10 Apr 2009, 08:08 »

BLUE
ABSTAIN
Bringing It All Back Home -- Bob Dylan

YELLOW
ABSTAIN
Blue Train -- John Coltrane

GREEN
Unknown Pleasures -- Joy Division
Highway 61 Revisited -- Bob Dylan

ORANGE
Things We Lost In the Fire -- Low
London Calling -- The Clash
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #67 on: 12 Apr 2009, 19:39 »

BLUE
the Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home

GREEN
ABSTAIN
the Beatles - Abbey Road

YELLOW
Radiohead - OK Computer
John Coltrane - Blue Train

ORANGE
the Pixies - Surfer Rosa
the Clash - London Calling

I haven't followed this thread at all this week, so I'll probably be disappointed/upset by a matchup or two when voting ends tomorrow.  This round was pretty easy, except maybe Aeroplane... vs. Sgt. Pepper's... and Highway... vs. Abbey Road.  I love Dylan, but I like Abbey Road more.  I specifically voted Kind of Blue down because it beat out Springsteen last round.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #68 on: 12 Apr 2009, 21:09 »

Not trying to just shit all over you guys, but am I the only one not doing any kind of strategic voting here?  Even if the comments are in jest or tongue-in-cheek or what have you, more than half of the posts in these threads when people vote talk about why they voted a certain way because they just don't want to see a certain album win, or because one album beat out another in a previous round, or what have you.  No offense meant to Matt, who is doing a pretty great job with all of this, but the system he's implementing, just like pretty much any kind of elimination game you could set up, is flawed, and there's not a whole lot you can do to fix that.  Like I said in the thread for last round, I've reduced to just opening the thread, opening my reply in a new tab so I can still see the bracket, voting, and trying to not look through the thread at all because most, if not all, of my votes are just being repeatedly attacked by people who are hell-bent on seeing a specific album get shot down.  Just sayin'.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #69 on: 12 Apr 2009, 21:57 »

runs a bit counter to the idea of giving everyone a vote in the first place.

I think that this is only true if you just had a list of albums that were all weighted equally and it was simply the album with the most votes is the winner. The moment you add more rules and have situations where a vote for one album is equivalent to voting against another album and this exchange can have an effect on a later part of the game you give players the mechanisms to play with strategy and playing naively is not a strategy that leads to winning. This means that you probably shouldn't put too much weight in the outcome of the game and if you wanted to poll which was the most popular album you would be better off just doing a straight up poll.

I think it would be really interesting to just have a vote for what the best album on the list is and compare the rankings to what we wound up with here.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #70 on: 12 Apr 2009, 22:06 »

Not trying to just shit all over you guys

Just vote for the albums you think are best.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #71 on: 12 Apr 2009, 22:31 »

ME:
Beatles
Bob Dylan

Yeller:
Public Enemy
AB-Freakin'-STAIN

Money&Cabbages:
Mogwai
Beatles

Mmm, Citrus:
Abstain
The Clash.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #72 on: 12 Apr 2009, 22:53 »

Now it gets really interesting.  As has been said, no strategic voting - we're not trying for a predetermined outcome, are we?  Each match is on its own, and only the album counts (we could conceivably have Beatles vs Dylan in three votes, but it wouldn't go the same way each time for me).  What matters is the criteria for deciding, and those will be personal as they have not been defined.  For me, each album is first judged against its own critereria, in its own time, then against other criteria as a tie-breaker.  So how well do the Beatles do music? or Dylan do social commentary?  I can also judge these in their own times; but some will only be able to see them as coming from a past they are less familiar with.  Sometimes it's just a matter of simple preference, though.

Sgt Pepper (sorry NMH, but you don't match the musical variety and innovation)
Bringing it all back Home
Deciding between these will get really hard...

OK Computer (I just can't stand rap)
Kind of Blue

Happy Songs
Highway 61 revisited (Abbey Road is good, but not as wide-ranging or interesting as Sgt Pepper)

Things we lost
Pet Sounds (Shame to lose The Clash, though)
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #73 on: 13 Apr 2009, 00:08 »

BLUE:
NMH
Bob Dylan

YELLOW:
Public Enemy
Abstain

GREEN:
Joy Division
The Beatles

ORANGE:
Low
The Clash
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #74 on: 13 Apr 2009, 19:50 »

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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #75 on: 13 Apr 2009, 22:26 »

To be fair to Jens and others concerned, my main beef at the time of my last post was with all the NMH bashing in these threads, when Aeroplane is a pretty good album in my opinion; yet, it's going up against one of my top 5 all-time favorite albums, so there was no way in hell I was going to vote for it this go-round.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #76 on: 14 Apr 2009, 05:28 »

I wouldn't be "strategically voting" against NMH if I didn't think In the Aeroplane... wasn't a genuinely shitty album. To put it another way. If I liked NMH more than any single one of the other albums on this list, I would've voted for it.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #77 on: 14 Apr 2009, 05:44 »

I regard this whole thing as a farce anyway ever since Graceland was eliminated in the first round.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #78 on: 14 Apr 2009, 07:59 »

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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #79 on: 14 Apr 2009, 10:22 »

I regard this whole thing as a farce anyway ever since Graceland was eliminated in the first round.

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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #80 on: 14 Apr 2009, 13:02 »

You need to listen again, Jens. If the title-track isn't the most searingly honest and heartbreaking and ultimately uplifting and cathartic song about coming to terms with the break-up of a marriage then I don't know what is.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #81 on: 14 Apr 2009, 13:47 »

Voting is finally CLOSED.

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« Reply #82 on: 15 Apr 2009, 04:12 »

You need to listen again, Jens. If the title-track isn't the most searingly honest and heartbreaking and ultimately uplifting and cathartic song about coming to terms with the break-up of a marriage then I don't know what is.

Honestly I'd consider that very likely considering I couldn't give you one searingly honest and heartbreaking and ultimately uplifting and cathartic song about coming to terms with the break-up of a marriage off the top of my head but that doesn't exactly explain why I should give a fat rat's shitter.

Actually do you know what I am going to download Graceland and put "searingly honest and heartbreaking and ultimately uplifting and cathartic song about coming to terms with the break-up of a marriage" in the genre tag
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #83 on: 15 Apr 2009, 04:27 »

Dovey you need to listen to more country music.
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Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND THREE
« Reply #84 on: 15 Apr 2009, 06:36 »

Dovey you need to listen to more country music.
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