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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #50 on: 14 Apr 2009, 07:06 »

shouldn't it be electric eye, or exciter? Breaking the Law's got a super cool intro riff but the chorus is freakin' lame.
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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #51 on: 14 Apr 2009, 07:47 »

I guess I'm a man, then.

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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #52 on: 14 Apr 2009, 08:13 »

shouldn't it be electric eye, or exciter? Breaking the Law's got a super cool intro riff but the chorus is freakin' lame.

Actually, my vote goes to Leather Rebel. Lightning in the dark. With a burning heart.
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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #53 on: 14 Apr 2009, 14:11 »

as a kid I thought of all the cool shit I would do as an adult. I would stay up as late as I wanted, watched whatever movies I wanted, drive a car, smoke a cigarette, drink alcohol, kiss girls, etc.

I think you are a grown up when you first seriously think "I wish I was a kid again" and a real man once you realize that just because you're an adult it doesn't mean you can't go ahead and do what you've always wanted.
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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #54 on: 14 Apr 2009, 14:19 »

Hook up with underage girls?
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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #55 on: 14 Apr 2009, 14:24 »

as a kid I thought of all the cool shit I would do as an adult. I would stay up as late as I wanted, watched whatever movies I wanted, drive a car, smoke a cigarette, drink alcohol, kiss girls, etc.

I think you are a grown up when you first seriously think "I wish I was a kid again" and a real man once you realize that just because you're an adult it doesn't mean you can't go ahead and do what you've always wanted.


"when i became a grown-up i gave up childish things, including the need to be very grown-up at all"


that's not the exact quote and i forget who said it but it seems fairly relevent. plus it's one of my favorite quotes.
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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #56 on: 14 Apr 2009, 14:29 »

Huh. Being a "man".

It's strange for me to try and define this, because ever since I was a young teenager, I felt like I had to be very adult in many ways. And I mean that in terms of responsibility and maturity rather than privilege and such things that teenagers associate with adulthood.

So I kind of feel as if I've been an adult for a long time. I think a lot of it was accepting responsibility for one's own actions, which is why I get annoyed when people try to cover for my mistakes. It's a lovely gesture, but it implies that I can't handle my own faults, which I find a little demeaning.
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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #57 on: 14 Apr 2009, 14:34 »

"when i became a grown-up i gave up childish things, including the need to be very grown-up at all"


that's not the exact quote and i forget who said it but it seems fairly relevent. plus it's one of my favorite quotes.

"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." - C.S. Lewis

One of my favorite quotes actually.
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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #58 on: 14 Apr 2009, 14:53 »

thats a great quote.

I also think there is a distinction between being grown up and being a man.
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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #59 on: 14 Apr 2009, 15:49 »

I'm not sure if I can identify a rite of passage that I went through that made me feel like a man afterward rather than a boy, but I can identify a bunch of events that definitely helped.

Having sex for the first time didn't really do much to make me a man, but sexual experiences later on definitely did.  The first time I woke up knowing that I'd made a mistake by having sex was important.  The first time I had sex with someone I had fallen in love with was important.  The first time I had sex with someone I was rising in love with was even more important.  The first time I had sex with someone who was trying to teach me something in the process was pretty important.

Drugs are also kind of a big deal for me ... again, the first time I did hallucinogens wasn't nearly as important as a few of the others.  My first experience with being in a state of mind I had absolutely zero control over was important, as was my first experience of being able to consciously control the output of my own sensory apparatus.  The first time I ever helped a close friend through a tripping nightmare was important and definitely made me feel more mature and capable ... more adult, I suppose, though not "manly."  My first drug-induced spiritual awakening was probably the biggest deal out of any single experience I've had in my life, so I guess that counts for quite a bit.  My first bad trip was pretty important but by that time I felt like I'd already made the transition into manhood so I don't suppose it was necessarily a "rite of passage."

Going to Burning Man was probably the closest I've come to a "rite of passage" in the sense that it is a ritual that I participated in as part of an effort to make me more of an adult.  It worked, I think.  The second time worked WAY more, I'd say (big long story about that, you can dig it up in the polyamory thread in "DISCUSS").

I think it's a problem, to some extent, that we don't have any culturally agreed-upon rituals for bringing someone into adulthood ... but really I only say that because we just don't have any that I personally believe to be more important than any of the others.  Obviously people still have bar mitzvahs and 18th and 21st birthdays and that sort of thing, and treat them as being important in one's rise from childhood into adulthood.  But if it were up to me, it'd be like in Island by Aldous Huxley, in which every child in the society goes through a yearly ritual at about 17-18 in which all the kids of the correct age tie themselves together and climb a cliff as a team and then take mushrooms and meditate at the top.
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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #60 on: 14 Apr 2009, 16:01 »

In the olden days the sign that you were a man in some tibes was to be hung from your nipples in a wooden hut for several hours whilst the older men of the village poked you with sticks.

Forgive me if I wish to remain a child, but your "adult hood" seems to have many problems with it and not that many advantages.
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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #61 on: 14 Apr 2009, 16:09 »

There's an idea behind it all though, and even something so small impacted peoples' lives dramatically.
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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #62 on: 14 Apr 2009, 16:22 »

i dont get this thing.
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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #63 on: 14 Apr 2009, 20:07 »

I'm 24, have had a full fledged Bar-Mitzvah, have been drinking/doing drugs/having sex since my mid-early teens, yet still feel like a man-child. I'm really not sure how to contribute to this thread other than saying you need a beard the size of Sam Beam's to become a man.
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Re: Right of passage.
« Reply #64 on: 14 Apr 2009, 21:11 »

Sam Beam doesn't count >:c
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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #65 on: 14 Apr 2009, 22:01 »

the day i became a man my father had taken me to the mountain and we had waited for five days until it rained and he had strapped me nude to a rock and let the weather pour over me and when the thunder and lightning cleared on the sixth day and you could see that i was not only alive but sporting a huge boner he pointed at me and looked up towards god and shouted "DEAL WITH IT"
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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #66 on: 14 Apr 2009, 23:24 »

the day i was a man

post doesn't explain how you became a man!!!! way to leave out the most important part  :roll:
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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #67 on: 15 Apr 2009, 06:45 »

What I'm more interested in is how he lost his man-ness after the day had ended.
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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #68 on: 15 Apr 2009, 11:31 »

edited for clarity! ha ha. my bad
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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #69 on: 15 Apr 2009, 14:26 »

Your rite of passage was a bad one there Johnny.
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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #70 on: 15 Apr 2009, 14:29 »

men don't care about sentence clarity they care about flexin
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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #71 on: 15 Apr 2009, 20:57 »

my mental image of a hippy chick is one with little grooming in her nether regions (amongst other things). I think I'd prefer to remain a boy rather then spend a month pulling hair out of my teeth.

Learning to deal with pubic hair is a big part of becoming a man. Real men love hair in all its forms and guises.



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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #72 on: 15 Apr 2009, 21:01 »

I'm not going to be tricked into becoming complacent around you, werewolf.
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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #73 on: 15 Apr 2009, 21:05 »

haha. i have the exact same wifebeater tanlines as these guys, except mine are more pronounced. Same amount of chest hair too :(
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Well yes but (sorry andy) she doesn't look half as fucking bad ass as this motherfucker in Poland.

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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #74 on: 15 Apr 2009, 21:07 »

Last time I had wifebeater tanlines it involved sun blisters.

That actually works: being a man, is getting your shoulders rubbed while you have sun blisters.
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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #75 on: 15 Apr 2009, 22:23 »

When not only are you able to take care of yourself, but the loved ones in your life without complaint and as well expecting nothing back in return.  Then maybe you are a man.
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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #76 on: 16 Apr 2009, 08:37 »

Not that I'm recommending it, but:

I don't know just where I'm going
But I'm gonna try for the kingdom, if I can
'Cause it makes me feel like I'm a man
When I put a spike into my vein
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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #77 on: 16 Apr 2009, 09:17 »

Oh and I guess that I just don't know.

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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #78 on: 16 Apr 2009, 09:32 »

I have made the big decision
I'm gonna try to nullify my life
'Cause when the blood begins to flow
When it shoots up the dropper's neck
When I'm closing in on death
And you can't help me not, you guys
And all you sweet girls with all your sweet talk
You can all go take a walk


Now you again! ;o)

(I admit that will get old soon. I love that song though, especially this bit:

And I'll tell ya, things aren't quite the same
When I'm rushing on my run.

So very true!)
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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #79 on: 16 Apr 2009, 09:57 »

Heroin, be the death of me
Heroin, it's my wife and it's my life
Because a mainer to my vein
Leads to a center in my head
And then I'm better off than dead
Because when the smack begins to flow
I really don't care anymore

It is a great song.  I love the glammed up drug jam version on Rock 'N' Roll Animal, too.

So, uh, someone could try and argue that having profound reflection on one's heroin usage is somehow indicative of being a man?

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Re: Rite of passage.
« Reply #80 on: 16 Apr 2009, 10:24 »

Haven't heard that version yet but I'll be sure to check it out.

I guess you have a point there! Being able to reflect your own actions and abstract them seems to be a part of being a man to me.

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