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the Make-up Thread.
« on: 05 Apr 2009, 01:04 »

Tom, I am sorry I broke your heart....




No, seriously, I really like make-up, and I don't think some people want it taking over the fashion thread.

So, make-up advice and,"Hey I am trying this"

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So, hey I am trying this! Colourful make-up and trying not to be 'scene'.


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So I like the mascara I've been using, but I find no matter what I use I have a hard time with clumps, I don't use a curler or anything, would this help?
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Re: the Make-up Thread.
« Reply #1 on: 05 Apr 2009, 01:26 »

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Re: the Make-up Thread.
« Reply #2 on: 05 Apr 2009, 05:30 »

I haven't ever tried it but I hear that sort of shaking your head a little as you apply the mascara stops it clumping. Also keep your mascara warm, if it gets cold it gets clumpy. Put the tube in some hot water (with the lid ON) before you use it if it's really bad.
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« Reply #3 on: 05 Apr 2009, 05:59 »

I actually use my brow gel on my lashes too right before applying the mascara, it separates the lashes from each other and prevents clumping. Just remember to apply the mascara before the gel dries, or it will be really difficult to get the mascara even. You're wearing a lot of mascara in those pics though Andy, and I'm not sure if this tip is any good when you use lots of mascara since I tend to not use much of it, just a couple of layers. Anyway, this is what it looks like when I do it (bonus makeup-free eye to show the difference):

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Re: the Make-up Thread.
« Reply #4 on: 05 Apr 2009, 06:12 »

Andy can't actually blink, because her eyes stick shut when she does.
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Re: the Make-up Thread.
« Reply #5 on: 05 Apr 2009, 07:17 »

With eyes that colourful, who cares about that.

Sometimes there is a price to pay to have so many awesome colours around your eyes.
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Re: the Make-up Thread.
« Reply #6 on: 05 Apr 2009, 08:06 »

I don't really have a problem with clumping with the mascara I use, but I have with cheaper brands. (I have Long Pretty Lashes from Clinique.) Either you should separate them before hand or do the brush wiggle thing. I usually just run my finger along my lashes before I put on mascara.

Your eyeshadow colors look really good!
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« Reply #7 on: 05 Apr 2009, 09:36 »

I have a friend who got a thirty-dollar tube of mascara. The applicator vibrates, supposedly to work out clumps. I don't think it works, but we all know that's not what it's for anyway...
Yeah, I always have issues with mascara. I've given up, I only use liner. It's just too much hassle.
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« Reply #8 on: 05 Apr 2009, 17:57 »

When I get clumps I usually just pinch at my lashes with my finger tips to get at any right at the ends. If you apply it gently, like by closing your eyes as you glide up over them, that helps to give smooth coats, too. The more drama you go for the more clumps, so I would say buy a good dramatic one from sephora rather than using drugstore if you want to totally solve the problem in that scenario. Or also use false eyelashes, but don't ask me about that, I've never used them.
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Re: the Make-up Thread.
« Reply #9 on: 06 Apr 2009, 05:03 »

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« Reply #10 on: 06 Apr 2009, 05:13 »

As someone already mentioned, heating your mascara makes it clump less.  it gets more melty and smooth that way.  I buy somewhat expensive mascara since I don't have time for multiple layers and such. I use Bad Gal Lash by Benefit.  It's $26 a tube, I think.  The tube I currently have, I've been using for nearly a year.  I know you're not supposed to, but hey, it's still good and doesn't even smell yet.  I used to buy DiorShow, and it smelled like roses, but after a couple of months, that smell changed dramatically.

Andy, I think those colors are fun, but where do you intend to wear it like that?  Just curious.
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Re: the Make-up Thread.
« Reply #11 on: 06 Apr 2009, 06:29 »

Andy can't actually blink, because her eyes stick shut when she does.

When she has done them properly she only needs you to meet her eyes once and you will be in love with her forever. Then she is in a lot of pain because she was holding those eyes open for a long time waiting for that moment.
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« Reply #12 on: 06 Apr 2009, 09:35 »

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« Reply #13 on: 06 Apr 2009, 10:10 »

I've found that if the mascara is getting impossibly clumpy it's probably time to replace it anyway. Toss it and get a new tube of the same stuff if you're a fan of it otherwise, it'll probably work better without all the eyeball bacteria that's clumping up the old one:)

The only makeup I ever wear is slate-grey eyeliner (bottom lid only, outside corner to halfway in only) and brownish-black mascara. I fail at the girly thing
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Re: the Make-up Thread.
« Reply #14 on: 06 Apr 2009, 11:24 »

As someone already mentioned, heating your mascara makes it clump less.  it gets more melty and smooth that way.  I buy somewhat expensive mascara since I don't have time for multiple layers and such. I use Bad Gal Lash by Benefit.  It's $26 a tube, I think.  The tube I currently have, I've been using for nearly a year.  I know you're not supposed to, but hey, it's still good and doesn't even smell yet.  I used to buy DiorShow, and it smelled like roses, but after a couple of months, that smell changed dramatically.

Andy, I think those colors are fun, but where do you intend to wear it like that?  Just curious.

I actually wear it daily, I touch my eyes so much that it is not nearly as vibrant by the end of the day. Also, Guys, who here is awesome at making small eyes look bigger?
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Re: the Make-up Thread.
« Reply #15 on: 09 Apr 2009, 15:07 »

I pretty much don't wear any, except maybe some Blistex chapstick in the winter. I went to the Fox with my sister recently, though, and decided to try some simple things. Specifically, this eye thing. It actually turned out really nicely, and I knew you could do subtle things to make your eyes stand out with eyeliner, and more obvious things with eyeshadow because they're harder to notice, but I hadn't ever banked on something that seems so obvious actually succeeding.

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« Reply #16 on: 09 Apr 2009, 15:39 »

Exactly how much would I be judged if I posted pictures of myself wearing makeup?
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« Reply #17 on: 09 Apr 2009, 15:48 »

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Re: the Make-up Thread.
« Reply #18 on: 09 Apr 2009, 20:35 »

One thing you can do is blot the mascara wand with a piece of paper towel (using toilet paper will lead to pieces stuck to the wand...which is gross). It wastes mascara, but at least it doesn't clump. I have a streak of blond through my lashes (I'm kind of piebald, I have two randomly placed blond streaks in my hair, too) so not using mascara looks kind of weird.
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Re: the Make-up Thread.
« Reply #19 on: 10 Apr 2009, 09:58 »

I tried some of my cousin's mascara once. I blinked and then couldn't open my eyes afterward. I had to go and wash them off. I felt incredibly stupid.
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Re: the Make-up Thread.
« Reply #20 on: 10 Apr 2009, 13:27 »

You should never use someone else's mascara or you could get some sort of bacterial infection.  It's unlikely, but it does happen. 
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« Reply #21 on: 13 Apr 2009, 10:02 »

Question:

What is the correct place to apply Mascara? I mean, I think I know the general area (rather under your eye than on your toes, I've heard people say), but do you people draw it onto that ridge of skin ABOVE that little row of hairs lower than your eyeball (no idea what they are called), or BENEATH those hairs? I have seen different people and different make-up artists do it both ways, so I'm wondering if it is just a question of personal style or if there is a "correct" and "wrong" place to paint it? When I first used Kohl, I was still wearing black clothes and had black hair and my temple was the goth disco, and all that mattered in those days was to apply A LOT of black around your eyes, nevermind where exactly.
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« Reply #22 on: 13 Apr 2009, 10:05 »

Are you talking about eyeliner,

 or mascara?
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« Reply #23 on: 13 Apr 2009, 10:08 »

double post to add that I put eyeliner UNDER the little lash row, since I have dark eyelashes to start with and it scares me to draw on the top bit since it kind of feels like my eyeball.
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« Reply #24 on: 13 Apr 2009, 10:16 »

Sorry I wasn't clearer, I'm obviously not that make-up savvy! I'm talking about the stuff that you apply under your eye with a pen-ish thingy. She has it in this picture in black: (http://images.fashionmodeldirectory.com/model/000000091554-jira_kohl-fullsize.jpg) It tends to say "kohl" on the pens. Do you know what I'm talking about?
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« Reply #25 on: 13 Apr 2009, 10:19 »

That would be eyeliner, which is shown in the top picture.

When it comes to application, though, it depends on your eyes I think. I don't like putting eyeliner on the inside of the lids (under the lashes, closest to the eyeball), because it looks weird. But I've seen other people do it and it looks good. I usually apply it like it's being done in the photo, if I wear it at all.
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« Reply #26 on: 13 Apr 2009, 11:02 »

When it comes to eyeliner, it really depends on the shape of your eye, the color you're applying, and the occasion.    Show us a pic and maybe we can help you out more?
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« Reply #27 on: 13 Apr 2009, 12:22 »

This is my face:



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« Reply #28 on: 13 Apr 2009, 12:27 »

I put kohl pencil liner on the waterline of my top and bottom lids, then I'll thicken up the line on the bottom lid and take it under the lashes. On the top lid i'll then line above the lashes, usually with liquid liner so it's very black and I can get neater flicks out of it, but if I don't want flicks I'll heavily line above the lashes in kohl and then smudge it.

Basically, you can put it wherever you think it looks best.
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« Reply #29 on: 13 Apr 2009, 12:31 »

Is anyone else seriously creeped out by black eyeliner on blondes? There has got to be a better technique than this.
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« Reply #30 on: 13 Apr 2009, 13:06 »



I think black eyeliner on blondes is pretty hot actually.
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« Reply #31 on: 13 Apr 2009, 13:11 »

Only in the goofy wanna-be-zombie kind of way... it just doesn't work if you want something a little more day-to-day
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« Reply #32 on: 13 Apr 2009, 13:22 »

I wear huge amounts of eyeliner on a daily basis, I have quite pale skin, and I don't think it makes me look like a goofy wanna-be-zombie, but whatever.
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« Reply #33 on: 13 Apr 2009, 13:53 »

You have dark hair though! I never said anything about skin tone
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« Reply #34 on: 13 Apr 2009, 14:36 »

I don't think blondes can look good with black liner if the rest of their eye makeup is just as dramatic.  with a pale pink shadow, that shit don't fly.  If they're doing the smokey evening thing, then it's fine. 

Krina, for an everyday thing, I'd suggest doing a dark brown color line going from middle of the eye to the outside on both top and bottom.  It will give the appearance of big eyes.  Brown mascara to finish the look. 
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« Reply #35 on: 13 Apr 2009, 22:13 »

I think blonds look particularly good with black eyeliner...In fact, the lighter the hair, the better. With light hair the eyebrows tend to just get lost on the face and it's nice to see some contrast.
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« Reply #36 on: 14 Apr 2009, 02:38 »

I did it when I was blonde, too. I think it's more about whether the way you're wearing it suits your face or not, which is a factor that needs considering with eyeliner anyway.
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« Reply #37 on: 14 Apr 2009, 02:43 »

Thanks for the advice! I'll give it a try.
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Re: the Make-up Thread.
« Reply #40 on: 15 Apr 2009, 08:25 »

Andy if you're looking for the best way to get around that problem, buy a few disposable mascara wands and after you apply a couple of coats, run a clean brush over your eyelashes. It seperates them really well.

Also, I love these mascaras:
Cheap - Maybelline Full N' Soft (which is what I use pretty much every day)

More expensive (but definitely worth the money)
Kiss Me Mascara by Blinc. You can buy it at Sephora and it forms these little tubes around your eyelashes that don't come off even if you rub your eyes or go swimming or sweat or whatever -- don't buy the L'Oreal knock-off. Go with the real deal.
Bad Gal Blue by Benefit. This you can get either at Sephora, The Bay or Shopper's Drug Mart. It has a huge brush that defines really well and it's blue which a) adds a splash of colour if you don't really wear a lot of colour, and b) makes your eye colour really, really stand out.

I love makeup. Love it love it love it. I used to want to be a makeup artist, doing either high fashion or special effects. I have way too much of it -- the amount of money I've spent on makeup probably adds up to about $800. I'll post some pictures soon...

Also, one of my favourite quotes about makeup!
"I don't understand makeup, Gloria -- why wear it at all? Isn't it dishonest?"
"My dear, the reason we wear makeup is to prevent the world from seeing what we're like underneath."
"What's wrong with that?"
"What's wrong with that? My dear, if you allow your feelings to be exposed, people will hurt you with them. They will use your feelings against you. Something once private and sacred to you will be transformed into a weapon. Something precious will be damaged. You will experience pain."

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Re: the Make-up Thread.
« Reply #41 on: 15 Apr 2009, 20:35 »

I have fair skin and even though I'm more of a brunette, I can't really pull off heavy black all around the eyes. Instead I use pretty much any other color like dark brown, purple, etc.

For more drama I add extra volume black mascara and black liquid eyeliner on top. I feel like because its sparing it makes the eyes pop more. In more of a feline way rather than creepy undead way.

Generally I line the waterline with dark brown rather than black because black makes my eyes look smaller, although I may add a little black to the outerthird of my waterline. Underneath I use anything but black really.

I think eyeliner is one of those things that you definitely have to figure out thorugh trial and error what looks best for you and the shape of your eye. I'd say decide if you want to go with the natural shape of your eye, in which case you can just wiggle the pencil between your eyelashes on top and more gently follow the bottom ones. Or if you want it to be something else, try to envision what slant you want it to be like and draw it, this can be easier if you leave your eyes open while looking at the mirror and drawing a guide before closing them and drawing. Try different stuff--drawing on all or part of the waterline, all or part of the bottom, drawing the edge of your top eye above or along your eyelashes, etc. And keep in mind that like me somethings are better in a lighter or darker color depending on your skin tone. I feel like eyeliner is something I've only just figured out!
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« Reply #42 on: 16 Apr 2009, 08:45 »

I had actually not known about that technique, thanks! My best friend from high school is coming over and we'll spend a very girly evening, watching West Side Story and playing with clothes and make-up.

On that note: How do you apply mascara without scrathing your eyeball? I once saw a TV documentary about different eye injuries. There was something about mascara-filled scratches of the eyeball which totally freaked me out.

Also: Can anyone of you friendly make-up pros recommend something (sorry, don't know the name for that again) that you can apply to your eye-lid? I'm looking for something that you can smear with your finger or a little brush. What colour would work with brown mascara and eye-liner?

It's really weird, I have worked as a model but I was usually reading a book when they applied the make-up and did my hair. I could have learned so much!


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« Reply #43 on: 16 Apr 2009, 09:40 »

Also: Can anyone of you friendly make-up pros recommend something (sorry, don't know the name for that again) that you can apply to your eye-lid? I'm looking for something that you can smear with your finger or a little brush. What colour would work with brown mascara and eye-liner?

What color are your eyes?  There are SO MANY different shadow colors and technicques to use, depending on what you're going for.  I tend to wear different colors based on my clothes.  A girl I once knew would use the color identical to her shirt.  Lime green, hot pink... it looked good for her, but isn't something I'd recommend. 

If I'm bored and in a rush, I will just use neutral tones (especially good with brown liner/mascara).  Beige, beige-pink, and browns tend to look nice and not draw too much attention.  if you go with a darker color shadow, use a lighter one right under your brow.  It will make your brows appear to be higher.
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Re: the Make-up Thread.
« Reply #44 on: 16 Apr 2009, 10:29 »

This all seems as far out as brain surgery to me. How do you know how to do this? Is it all trial and error or is there some secret make-up-gene that I'm lacking?

My eyes are mostly green:


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Re: the Make-up Thread.
« Reply #45 on: 16 Apr 2009, 17:51 »

Your eyes are pretty darn similar to mine and the colors that tend to look best on me are golds/neutrals, purple, pinks, and green. I have dark enough lashes that I can go with brown or black liner/mascara, but it looks like your lashes are pretty light, so I think you should stick with brown.
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Re: the Make-up Thread.
« Reply #46 on: 25 Apr 2009, 12:33 »

Krina, I'd say that for me it was mostly trial and error, I haven't really found a book that was that helpful. The best thing I've done, though, was watch youtube makeup tutorials. You can search for whatever eyeshadow color or level of drama (like 'day look' vs. night), or a theme like a disney princess. I got into makeup only in the last few years, and it really is an entire world. I think the best way to do it is approach it like a six year old does and just try stuff. Just make sure you have makeup remover!

Btw I just bought my cousin this makeup pallet http://www.coastalscents.com/cfwebstore/index.cfm/product/1667_122/ultra-shimmer-88-eye-shadow-palette.cfm for her 11th birthday. I'm jealous because I really want it!! It's supposed to be really good quality.
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Re: the Make-up Thread.
« Reply #47 on: 25 Apr 2009, 14:39 »

It all depends on the combination of your skin tone AND your hair colour. I am very, very pale (think Irish, but not quite - here, for your consideration, next to an actual Irishman), but my hair is really dark, almost black, and my eyebrows and eyelashes are a brown (I think) almost indistinguishable from black, if they are not actually black like I think they are. Anyway, I cannot wear grey eyeliner because it makes me look sick, and brown makes my eyes look funny. I only ever wear black, or black and like a wine colour (to bring out the green). Also I am pretty sure that if I could break the habit of pulling on my eyelashes, and incidentally occasionally pulling them out, I would probably not need mascara at all, but I would still wear black.

It really does just depend on you. If you are going for drama and artistry or theatrics, then it depends on the effect you are trying to achieve: if you want to be a faerie, lots of sparkles and purples and greens; if you want to be the Snow Queen, blues and whites.
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