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Yo QC! How's your edge? If you're anything like me it's been buried under the patio for ten years under a pile of booze, nicotine and ketamine, but if there was ever a record to make you wish you were still a good edger this is it. Ten Yard Fight were part of the whole '97 youth crew revival along with In My Eyes and the vastly inferior Floorpunch who can get stuffed for fucking up the singer from By The Grace Of God for no good reason. Ten Yard Fight were old school as hell and in First And Ten wrote one of the great straight edge anthems, using American football as an amazingly ridiculous metaphor for losing/keeping your edge ("You turned in your helmet, fumbled the ball. You lost the edge man you're gonna fall!"). You'll never regret breaking edge as much as when these guys are telling you how badly you sold out and how you're not going to make it to the super bowl anymore (or if you're still holding the edge down, better about still rocking it). Recommended for anyone with a shred of "hardcore pride" left.



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Hi guys, I was that guy who asked for the primer, well I had time to download all those bands and give em a good listening to and they were all incredibly rad, converge and such definitely grew on me, but now you posted all this other stuff, how the hell do you people manage to listen to all this music  :? Still thanks for pointing out some cool music to me guys I know I sort of never replied so know that your efforts were not wasted  :-)
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It helps that we are more than one person.

Also, we're all social retards.
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Wait...you mean it's not normal to be posting to an internet forum on a Friday night? How strange...
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http://revhq.com/store.revhq?Page=info&Section=sampler

Three free CDs worth of music to download. 
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oh man hardcore thread i just found the dawn treader discog that shit is so hard to find. once i get it all organized im gonna put some links up.
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I reacquainted myself with an old school gem of a hardcore record over the weekend, and also bought their brand new one - so here's two Poison the Well records for the price of none!

First we have this:

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Their first official full length "The Opposite Of December." Considered legendary in many circles. Containing such live staples as 'Artists Rendering Of Me,' 'Nerdy,'
and 'slice paper wrists. One of the first bands to combine breakdown-heavy hardcore with melodic singing. Hardcore fans (like myself!) too young to have enjoyed the 80's scene will remember this one fondly.

Then, released last week, we have:

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Ten years, probably twice as many members later - brand new PtW full length "The Tropic Rot." They still got it...

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This is just a perfect, perfect thread. I'm going to have to put OX up, as I didn't see it in any of the earlier posts.  Oh, and Introducing... by Bars. And Live the Storm by Disfear, I didn't see that either. I will also point all of you to the Deathwish Inc website, where they have some really nice samplers. The latest MMIX one is awesome.
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Deathwish is hands down the best hardcore label in existence right now. Period. There's not a single band on that roster that doesn't deliver.

Also, those are all very good choices that you listed. I haven't picked up the new Coalesce record yet (payday tomorrow, fuck yes!) but the other two are solid. Bars is actually so much raw rock and roll, and Disfear is just friggin' Disfear.
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Thanks. I also like Blacklisted, The Hope Conspiracy, Shai Hulud, and some mathy stuff like Botch. When I'm not listening to hardcore it's punk, metal or various combinations of the two :-P

Well, here are those albums:

I'm not going to leave these up very long, maybe a fortnight or so. Go and buy them if you like them.
*shrug* No one wanted them, oh well.
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As requested by Grimbo here is the final album by Kneejerk, the band Frank Turner (Million Dead, solo) cut his teeth in. It's very patchy, as you'd expect since the band are about 18 and are clearly influenced by bands from the more experimental end of hardcore like Refused and Canvas (actually I think I might put some Canvas up next, Lost In Rock is something of a forgotten classic to my mind). Turner can't really pull off the singing parts very well and the lyrics are pretty teenage on occasion, I'll admit to wincing now and again when listening to this. For all that though there is some great moments of emo metallic hardcore, and it does have a real ramshackle charm to it.



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nice one mate, thanks!  a coupla tracks in and it's sounding promising, i'll definitely be giving this is a proper full listen when i get in from work tonight! 

as promised, something randomly awesome in return:

"Last City" by Loma Prieta



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Intricate, melodic, heavy screamo/hardcore, with some really nice guitar work.
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Nice, sounds right up my alley.



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Much like Refused, Leeds' Canvas liked to include electronics or instruments like violins and weren't afraid to mess around with what you'd expect from a hardcore band. The big difference is that Refused were never anywhere near this heavy. Canvas dealt in crushing metalcore that had been twisted and fucked with until it was morphed into sprawling, wailing epics (several songs clock in at over 5 minutes and two at over 10, impressive for a hardcore record). Imagine if Converge took a ton of drugs, listened to a shitload of prog, got themselves some electronic gubbins and relocated to West Yorkshire and you might have some idea what this record's all about. Members went on to do time in the likes of Beecher, Humanfly, Tigers, Thirty Seconds Until Armageddon and Born From Pain.
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Oh man...I forgot completely about Beecher. I really liked their first record.
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I'm guessing Andy Sutcliffe of Canvas was still in Beecher at that point, he left after not too long to focus on Humanfly with his brother John (Canvas' vocalist). Actually, you wouldn't care to throw up some Beecher would you? I never got into them back in the day, but my tastes have changed since then and I was probably too obsessed with bands like D.S.-13 and Voorhees to pay them any decent attention.

Also, listen to Canvas.
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i am so intrigued by that canvas album that i've literally just ordered a copy off amazon (£2.30 like new, not bad eh?!) without even having listened to a second of it!  it's a UK seller so it'll be here in a coupla days, i'll report back with my findings when i've had a listen...  :-D
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Hope you like it! I've got a few UK albums from around that era that were also doing (to me) interesting stuff with hardcore like Imbalance, Stalingrad, Humanfly (they've changed massively into a post-metal band now) etc that I can throw up if anyone's interested. A lot of them were on now-defunct labels like Armed With Anger and Hermit so probably aren't around to buy. I'm surprised the Canvas album is still kicking around!
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well, the (frequently wrong) info section on amazon says that canvas album is on Metal Blade.  but if you're right and it's on household name, they're pretty good at keeping their releases in print (although they've let one of their finest, Howards Alias' "Beat Heart Beat" drop out of print recently  :-( ).  and it is obviously second hand, the one i'm buying, hence the cheapness of it.

i'm not sure if they're technically hardcore, but i might up the two eps and full-length by The Blueprint, a supergroup who were about in the first half of this decade, and featured members of earthtone9, consumed, and (i think) pitchshifter.
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Guys.

Why have you posted like, five pages of straight edge bullshit and crap metalcore and not like.

Discharge or GBH.

Come on guys.

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well, the (frequently wrong) info section on amazon says that canvas album is on Metal Blade.  but if you're right and it's on household name, they're pretty good at keeping their releases in print (although they've let one of their finest, Howards Alias' "Beat Heart Beat" drop out of print recently  :-( ).  and it is obviously second hand, the one i'm buying, hence the cheapness of it.

i'm not sure if they're technically hardcore, but i might up the two eps and full-length by The Blueprint, a supergroup who were about in the first half of this decade, and featured members of earthtone9, consumed, and (i think) pitchshifter.

Interesting. I found a review for Lost In Rock that gives the release date as 2001 and the label as metal blade, so I'm guessing it got re-released since it's conspicuously absent from the Household Name store. You were right about them keeping things in print though, they're still selling Imbalance's debut, HHH's making changes (that I had no idea they'd ever re-issued, I presumed it had gone out of print after the Positive Outlook/Sakari release), Withdrawn, they've even got Hard To Swallow vinyl! And that Ensign/Fig 4.0 split where the production made it frankly unlistenable, but still.
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Guys.

Why have you posted like, five pages of straight edge bullshit and crap metalcore and not like.

Discharge or GBH.

Come on guys.



if that's the kinda hardcore you're into, contribute some!!!  i'm not a fan of straight-edge hardcore, but i'm not gonna moan about it, i just didn't download it.  all the metalcore that's been posted is all more hardcore-orientated than metal-based.  hardcore's pretty much an umbrella term anyway - for the love of all that is good in this world, DO NOT let this thread degenerate into lame genre-debating, PLEASE.
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I'm not on my main computer, so I don't have anything like my entire music collection, I just think it's weird that no one's mentioned a single d-beat band in this whole thread.
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I uploaded a couple more records to the mediafire folder I made for this thread:

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The new additions are Life At The Speeds' self-titled record and Bright Calm Blue's Assymetry Set. Life At These Speeds play some pretty straight-forward, driving tunes but towards the end of the record they dial it back with a couple more sprawling numbers. Their guitar riffs get stuck in my head a lot.

Asymmetry Set is an album I think everybody should hear. They just have everything going on. Syncopated guitars and a tight-ass rhythm section that at times calls to mind early Q and Not U, really excellent spoken-shouted-screamed vocals paired with some pretty great lyrics, and keyboards! Sadly, after they released this album they kicked out the singer and went on to record a second album that was pretty much bullshit.
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Khar, I take it you don't consider Disfear d-beat?
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:-o Yeah, there was me thinking Disfear were basically the d-beat band after the guys who invented the genre.

Oh, and how do you people feel about Coliseum?
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I didn't notice Disfear. Genuine mistake. This thread still needs more Discharge.
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Hey Hardcore thread:

Anyone got come CRUST PUNK recommendations for me?
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Downloading "Extinction" now....


Okay, this seems pretty cool. A little slower than I expected.

I hear the Celtic Frost influence in them a bit...Okay now it's picking up. This is pretty good stuff. Kind of like a more evil version of Black Flag.

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Hey Hardcore thread:

Anyone got come CRUST PUNK recommendations for me?

Coliseum. Coliseum. And, er, Coliseum  :lol:
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fkkkkkkkk yeah loma prieta is so boss.

Yeah I have them on right now and they are pretty great.
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Guys.

Why have you posted like, five pages of straight edge bullshit and crap metalcore and not like.

Discharge or GBH.

Come on guys.





Cause I don't like bands that dress up like Hot Topic shopping spree winners.

Punk is dead. Cry some more.
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Hold on, all the jokes about Hot Topic imply that it sells clothes for teenagers with swooshed hair and Throwdown CDs. You mean America actually has so many crusts there is an entire chain dedicated to selling patches and vegan boots? Weird, but good I suppose since Discharge's Realities Of War is one of the best 7"es of all time, it's just raw power. I also appreciated their love for John Heartfield.

Disfear are good but I wouldn't go ranking them as the greatest d-beat band since Discharge. Japan's Bastard on the other hand make a pretty good case that they should be at the top of the pile. One of the guys from the (really good) Devoid of Faith has their excellent discography No Hope In Here up on his blog: http://truepunkmetal.blogspot.com/2009/07/bastard-no-hope-in-here-199.html
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Dude hot topic is used by scene kids not crusties.

Unless you brits have a different definition of crusties. Which i doubt cause scene kids don't give a shit about veganism.

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See, that's what I figured. Now I definitely don't get how Discharge can be dismissed as looking like they won a Hot Topic spree. Fair enough if someone doesn't like Discharge, but eh?
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in the few punk scenes i've encountered (i'd hesitate to say "been part of" since i tended to avoid the name-dropping and one-upping and just went to see live music), i've generally found the patch-wearing, vegan-as-fuck, punker/crustier-than-thou types to be just as annoying, cliquey, image-obsessed, and elitist as the asymmetrical fringe brigade, only more violently so.  i say generally, as there have always been a few saving graces in the form of people who wear the associated clothes but aren't actually arseholes.

still, this doesn't have any bearing on whether or not the music itself is good, and i'd frankly love to hear me some discharge, as i've not heard much so far, so if anyone wants to throw some up here, that'd be awesome.
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Would Winds of Plague be considered hardcore? I see more hardcore/wiggercore fans turn out to see them than metalheads.
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No, they play that really watered down kind of death metal. Would they be slam? Slam confuses me, I just know it involves Waking The Cadaver and various other bits of death metal I want no part of.

in the few punk scenes i've encountered (i'd hesitate to say "been part of" since i tended to avoid the name-dropping and one-upping and just went to see live music), i've generally found the patch-wearing, vegan-as-fuck, punker/crustier-than-thou types to be just as annoying, cliquey, image-obsessed, and elitist as the asymmetrical fringe brigade, only more violently so.  i say generally, as there have always been a few saving graces in the form of people who wear the associated clothes but aren't actually arseholes.

still, this doesn't have any bearing on whether or not the music itself is good, and i'd frankly love to hear me some discharge, as i've not heard much so far, so if anyone wants to throw some up here, that'd be awesome.

Oh yeah, crust punk is massively about image. I tend to find it's the younger ones that tend to be more elitist, the ones in their late 20s-early 40s are usually pretty decent sorts (even if I sometimes do get an urge to hose them down). Quite a few nice younger ones as well though, often seems arbitrary what scene attracts the tits in any given town. Mind you I probably would say that since I'm not averse to the odd patch and being a wee bit vegan as fuck myself.

I could do with more Discharge myself, I lost most of it when my old computer died and unfortunately I can't rip from vinyl to put what I have left up.
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Canvas - Lost In Rock
(Household Name, 2000)

this arrived in the post t'other day, and it's pretty awesome.  total headfuck, but intriguing nonetheless!  the vocals are sometimes a bit nails-meet-blackboard, but otherwise it's pretty insane, definitely gonna get a few more spins from me very soon!
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I'm kind of relieved you bought something after my gushing and didn't hate it. When I'm back at my computer I'll throw up Humanfly's fist album, it's the vocalist and one of the guitarists from Canvas (and early Beecher) doing some kind of JR Ewing screamo, but pretty much better than JR Ewing. It contains the line "here, have a riff grenade". I can imagine a few guys around these parts liking it. I know what you mean about John's vocals, he does get pretty wailing. Personally I rather like that completely off-key business, but... yeah.

On a related note, does anyone know of any really new hardcore bands that are totally fucking with the template and making you wonder if this is even hardcore? Because I could use more of that, the more political the better.
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Will I'd love to help but I live in DC.

So no nobody's even daring to touch the template. Unless you'd like me to point out Baltimore scremo bands!
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I would say age sixteen is really unique
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On the topic of Disfear - http://punkas.com/livethestorm.html

Also, new Doomriders tracks on Deathwish currently. Fuckin' ace.
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I would say age sixteen is really unique

orrrrrrrrrr we can just start name dropping the bmore scremo right now.

i mean whatever works for you guys.
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On the topic of Disfear - http://punkas.com/livethestorm.html

Also, new Doomriders tracks on Deathwish currently. Fuckin' ace.

On topic of both: they did a split recently. OH YEAH!  8-)
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Will I'd love to help but I live in DC.

So no nobody's even daring to touch the template. Unless you'd like me to point out Baltimore scremo bands!

You know perfectly well that will be a reasonable compromise. Mind you, since the entirety of my knowledge of Baltimore comes from Homicide, The Wire and John Waters the concept of Baltimore screamo seems so incongruous. Also, I believe there was an unfulfilled promise of a Dawn Treader discog?

I've got that Open Up Finders, Please record by Age Sixteen and although it's good and it sometimes sounds like they're making a bit of an effort to be different with the guitar sound they're hardly breaking the screamo mould. Not that there's anything wrong with that, I love straight ahead screamo, but it is what it is.
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