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Noir films
« on: 27 Sep 2009, 22:25 »

I was wondering if anyone could recommend me some good, old noir films? 

In the vein of um, The Maltese Falcon I suppose, which is pretty much the only noir film I actually know.  Basically, a bunch of things sparked an interest in the genre for me recently, but I'm not really sure where to start, as, normally, I don't watch very many movies.

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Re: Noir films
« Reply #1 on: 27 Sep 2009, 23:14 »

Some big films in the genre are

M (1931)
The Third Man (1949)
Chinatown (1974)

And more recently,

Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (2005)
Brick (2005)

Which are both a lot of fun.
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Re: Noir films
« Reply #2 on: 27 Sep 2009, 23:41 »

Chinatown is more correctly neo-noir, right? Still my favourite noir film so an excellent recommendation.

In terms of older noir films, both The Big Sleep and Maltese Falcon (both Bogart films) are excellent. The Big Sleep doesn't exactly make sense, but honestly that's not a big disadvantage. If you want more recent noir films (or as I said, neo-noir!), Memento is certainly the best example. The going backwards gimmick is much more than just a gimmick, and it follows the traditional noir structure despite "going backwards."
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Re: Noir films
« Reply #3 on: 28 Sep 2009, 07:09 »

I can recommend the Third Man very highly, its a fun watch through and its got Orson Welles, who doesn't like Orson Welles? Ditto for Chinatown with Jack Nicholson.

As for my own recommendations, Double Indemnity is a genre classic, while Blade-Runner is a good futuristic neo noir thriller with genetically altered Darryl Hannah and Harrison Ford.
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Re: Noir films
« Reply #4 on: 28 Sep 2009, 09:31 »

Casablanca, duh
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Re: Noir films
« Reply #5 on: 28 Sep 2009, 10:01 »

Chinatown is more correctly neo-noir, right? Still my favourite noir film so an excellent recommendation.

I would say Memento would definitely be considered neo-noir. Yet, Chinatown, while being a lot newer than classic noir films, follows all of the original noir concepts pretty damn close.
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Re: Noir films
« Reply #6 on: 28 Sep 2009, 11:49 »

It's one of those ones where you can pick and choose, since there isn't a definitive answer to what constitutes noir (or even if it is a genre at all, a subject of some debate). For those that take noir as something that applies only to films from a certain period Chinatown definitely wouldn't qualify. Neither would M actually, since it does fit as a German street or asphalt film and it was never referred to as a noir until comparatively recently, but it's such an enormous influence on noir it's worth watching.

By a massive distance the absolute greatest noir (so long as you accept M isn't one), not to mention a good contender for greatest film of any kind, is easily Sunset Boulevard. Anyone who doesn't think Norma Desmond is one of the greatest characters of all time is a massive chump.
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Re: Noir films
« Reply #7 on: 28 Sep 2009, 14:14 »

Came here to say Brick, but it was already said, so I'll just say that it is fucking great.
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Re: Noir films
« Reply #8 on: 29 Sep 2009, 01:45 »

Sunset Boulevard.

Also;
The Maltese Falcon
Double Indemnity
The Third Man
Stranger on the Third Floor
M
Nosferatu - really an expressionist piece, but it's so damn good you should watch it anyway. Plus, it's fallen into the public domain.
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Re: Noir films
« Reply #9 on: 29 Sep 2009, 14:46 »

Casablanca, duh

Joke post? Or do people actually think Casablanca is noir?
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Re: Noir films
« Reply #10 on: 29 Sep 2009, 20:10 »

In terms of cinematography, some of the scenes could be considered Noir-influenced. But yeah Casablanca is not a noir film.
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Re: Noir films
« Reply #11 on: 30 Sep 2009, 06:24 »

M is definitely great.
Le Circle Rouge (The Red Circle) is not only one of the best gangster/noir movies ever, it's one of my all time favorite movies period. Seriously brilliant.
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Re: Noir films
« Reply #12 on: 30 Sep 2009, 21:00 »

Just wait till y'all see my noir-comedy production, it'll totally straight flip all the way out on you yo.
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Re: Noir films
« Reply #13 on: 01 Oct 2009, 18:37 »

Elevator to the Gallows (1958) - Man, what a film. If you don't mind subtitles/can understand French. And the soundtrack is by Miles Davis.

I don't know if you like science fiction, but Bladerunner (1982) is certainly in the noir vein.

Also, Blast of Silence (1961) is pretty great too. I haven't seen it in a while but the cinematography is stunning. You can actually watch it on Youtube.
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Re: Noir films
« Reply #14 on: 02 Oct 2009, 09:24 »

thanks everyone, these are great suggestions.  I'll start checking them out over the weekend.
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Re: Noir films
« Reply #15 on: 15 Oct 2009, 11:47 »

The Big Sleep
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