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Bad Machinery
« on: 15 Aug 2009, 22:52 »

Ends on September 11th
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Re: Scary Go Round
« Reply #1 on: 16 Aug 2009, 00:07 »

It still bothers me that he wrote out Tim.
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Re: Scary Go Round
« Reply #2 on: 17 Aug 2009, 19:40 »

This is SGR's 9/11.
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Re: Scary Go Round
« Reply #3 on: 17 Aug 2009, 21:35 »

I was wondering when this would happen.
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Re: Scary Go Round
« Reply #4 on: 27 Aug 2009, 14:42 »

Scary Go Round is one of those comics that I loved to check up on every month.

I hope Carrot gets to go to that university.
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Re: Scary Go Round
« Reply #5 on: 28 Aug 2009, 21:33 »

The teenagers, they grew up so fast. :|
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Re: Scary Go Round
« Reply #6 on: 29 Aug 2009, 00:08 »

I'm really excited about the new project! I check John's blog every day for NEWS but he is being very tight lipped! All I have read is that it will be awesome and also not be the end of Shelley Winters! He said he could probably actually continue it under the same name but he felt like a bit of a fresh start. Less than two weeks to go now...
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Re: Scary Go Round
« Reply #7 on: 30 Aug 2009, 00:18 »

Scary Go Round is probably the only webcomic that I really care about.

Hope the new one is good, but I mean lets be honest, it will be.
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Re: Scary Go Round
« Reply #8 on: 30 Aug 2009, 08:29 »

I've been really disappointed that the last SGR arc is focused on the kids. He moved the focus away from the adult characters without any resolution for any of them. The entire thing feels anti-climatic too, like John realised he couldn't do what he planned with the arc and did something else instead. The creepy, otherworldly genderless child that implied a huge change was coming ended up being a regular (but deranged) human child that kidnaps and eats postmen. What started out as a great build up had a sudden and disappointing climax that felt like a rushed attempt to shoehorn in some new characters for the next project.
Shauna and Lottie were handled brilliantly, though. Those two characters are fantastic. It's just a shame that with the heavy focus on those two characters, everything else related to this arc feels underdeveloped.
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Re: Scary Go Round
« Reply #9 on: 30 Aug 2009, 10:25 »

SCG was one of my fav webcomics but its Daily very very serial nature meant when I stopped reading webbies regularly I couldnt just pick up anywhere and starting from the beginning is ALOT of work since being daily there is a lot of content to go through.

That being said I always found the the art very crisp and delightful, though with the natural progression of art and the way he recreates characters, Im not so sure Id even recognize half of them anymore. But the dialog was always snappy and entertaining. Now that there is an end-goal in site, perhaps its my duty to see it through to the end this time around.
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Re: Scary Go Round
« Reply #10 on: 30 Aug 2009, 12:26 »

I'm checking the blog everyday as well!

I may be sad that SGR is ending, but I love Mr. Allison's humour & art so much that I'm way more excited about something new & what it will be!

I also have a little crush on him, despite having very low musical compatability on last.fm. (These things are important for me.)

I agree the focus on the girls has been a frustrating, but I kind of trust he knows what he's doing & that it will end in a wonderfully happy making way!

(I like someone being on a webcomic forum & saying another webcomic is the only one they care about as well, that made me giggle a little.)
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Re: Scary Go Round
« Reply #11 on: 30 Aug 2009, 12:40 »

I've been on this forum for ages despite not actually having looked at the QC comic in years (I dont even know what he art looks like anymore as I have the forums direct linked)
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Re: Scary Go Round
« Reply #12 on: 30 Aug 2009, 14:06 »

SGR has always been my favorite webcomic next to Achewood, and I have to echo Sox's thoughts about this arc feeling rushed, and Poh not living up to the expectations that were built for him. I suspect that this arc could've gone a whole different direction if Michael Jackson hadn't've died right after John introduced him as a character.

But I can't be entirely disappointed because Shauna and Lottie's written dialect is utterly brilliant.
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Re: Scary Go Round
« Reply #13 on: 02 Sep 2009, 07:09 »

I was kind of hoping this would mark the end of Shelley, but alas, it looks like she'll be crossing over to the next one. I just hope we get some kind of closure for the rest of the cast.
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Re: Scary Go Round
« Reply #14 on: 02 Sep 2009, 23:15 »

Baw, these last couple ones are getting sad.
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Re: Scary Go Round
« Reply #15 on: 11 Sep 2009, 14:34 »

So, it's all done.  Thoughts?  Memories?  Most favorite storyline of all time?
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Re: Scary Go Round
« Reply #16 on: 11 Sep 2009, 15:11 »

Probably when Ryan went to visit his dead girlfriend.
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Re: Scary Go Round
« Reply #17 on: 11 Sep 2009, 18:03 »

I suspect that this arc could've gone a whole different direction if Michael Jackson hadn't've died right after John introduced him as a character.

This arc was completed before Michael Jackson died then released on a buffer.
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Re: Scary Go Round
« Reply #18 on: 12 Sep 2009, 20:09 »

Also, MJ has been a character for a while, we just hadn't seen him properly before.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #19 on: 01 Oct 2009, 20:42 »

Ryan is back and he's got a beard and he's married?

Holy shit.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #20 on: 01 Oct 2009, 22:18 »

Who wants odds that he's married to Amy?

(also I'm prepared to give this comic a lot of chances but seeing as how much I disliked all the stuff with the little kids in the last SGR story I'm shamefully unconfident)
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #21 on: 02 Oct 2009, 02:08 »

I am still excited about the hot girl hawking the Rock O'Clock shirt on the front page occasionally.
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But yes... I am excited to find out what Ryan's been up to!
I wonder what's gonna happen once we catch up and meet all the characters? I hope it is a return to the macabre of old SGR.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #22 on: 02 Oct 2009, 14:02 »

Did anyone get the limited edition print-only comic? I desperately want to know what happened to Erin and Bob Crowley.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #23 on: 02 Oct 2009, 15:51 »

I am still excited about the hot girl hawking the Rock O'Clock shirt on the front page occasionally.
Hee.


But yes... I am excited to find out what Ryan's been up to!
I wonder what's gonna happen once we catch up and meet all the characters? I hope it is a return to the macabre of old SGR.

Every time I see that I yell out, "HOLY FUCK I KIND OF KNOW HER!!"

Man, I'm so bad at catching things.  I didn't realized that was Ryan until Khar pointed it out.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #24 on: 02 Oct 2009, 19:19 »

Did anyone get the limited edition print-only comic? I desperately want to know what happened to Erin and Bob Crowley.

Someone answer this.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #25 on: 07 Oct 2009, 01:07 »

Who wants odds that he's married to Amy?

Alright everyone, pay up.

EDIT: Ryan is so Americana. I love it.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #26 on: 08 Oct 2009, 07:42 »

I am still excited about the hot girl hawking the Rock O'Clock shirt on the front page occasionally.
Hee.


But yes... I am excited to find out what Ryan's been up to!
I wonder what's gonna happen once we catch up and meet all the characters? I hope it is a return to the macabre of old SGR.

Every time I see that I yell out, "HOLY FUCK I KIND OF KNOW HER!!"

Man, I'm so bad at catching things.  I didn't realized that was Ryan until Khar pointed it out.

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First glance I was like huh sure looks like lunchy.

oh and yep kinda eh

on another note I'd add that the phrase "Bad Machinery" perfectly describes my feelings about my highschool experience.
I'm not sure if John reads this forum but if he did happen to have a peek I'd say Good Comic keep it up.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #27 on: 08 Oct 2009, 07:43 »

Who wants odds that he's married to Amy?

Alright everyone, pay up.

EDIT: Ryan is so Americana. I love it.

That's like betting the sky is blue.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #28 on: 22 Oct 2009, 23:19 »

I basically cannot read the new thing.  I blame myself and not Mr. A.  I will shortly be entering into therapy to find out what personal deficiency is not allowing me to enjoy the new thing and conquer it.

I do appreciate, however, how SGR got less about fantasy and monsters and Shelley near the end and more about small precocious children having adventures.  I appreciate this in the way that I appreciate a girl treating me real bad so I dump her and not the other way around.  I will also be discussing this in therapy.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #29 on: 23 Oct 2009, 11:46 »

I'm loving BM so far but it still makes me wonder.

Unless I'm much mistaken, BM was in part an attempt to create something slightly more approachable and populist in nature than the notoriously difficult SGR. However, he doesn't have a cast page up yet (which would make it a lot easier, no?) and thus far he's making the same kind of references which for the most part will go over the head of people who didn't attend a school in Britain over the last twenty years. BM is exactly on the mark for me but I am worried about the durability of anything which relies on someone like me as a target audience. The online webcomic audience is notoriously fickle and frankly, I'll bet at least a percentage of the audience of SGR tuned in basically because the cast featured renderings of attractive women. Now he's relying on school children and nostalgia to get him through, which I don't see working out that great in terms of his popularity.

I think it's somewhat inevitable that BM will be brilliant artistically but commercially, I feel like his audience is about to become (in the words of Spinal Tap) "more selective".
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #30 on: 23 Oct 2009, 12:38 »

I think the tone & colouring reflecting the tone are beautiful to look at. He has also stated that he is setting things up, so when asked to be patient (something I'm bad at) I'm trying my best to be patient.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #31 on: 24 Oct 2009, 01:06 »

I'm not worried at all about Bad Machinery not living up to Scary Go Round because I remember when John Allison pulled this same stunt before.  Bobbins started out as a office-romance kind of comic but eventually went into more fantasy/adventure territory, at which point Allison decided to end Bobbins and start a spin-off focused on that comic's secondary characters, Rachel and Tessa.  Within a year or so, Rachel and Tessa were minor players in this new comic, Scary Go Round, and the core cast was almost entirely the same as the primary Bobbins cast: Tim, Shelly, Amy, Fallon, Ryan, etc.  And then SGR evolved on its own, quite naturally, to be better than Bobbins had been before.

I'm fully expecting to see the same thing happening with Bad Machinery.  I can't imagine that Allison will be able to stop writing stories that feature the SGR cast any more than he could stop from featuring Bobbins cast members in SGR.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #32 on: 24 Oct 2009, 06:40 »

The artwork is great and I really liked Scary Go Round, so I'm willing to be patient with it and see where it goes. I don't expect it to be as quirky and fantastical as SGR, but it still seems like it's going to be a fun comic.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #33 on: 09 Nov 2009, 14:18 »

I don't know what it is but I have a hard time following Bad Machinery. I am trying my hardest to stay interested, but find myself skipping days. I was totally in love with SGR around the time of the jellyfish adventure, too. Is it still possible to find in the archives?
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #34 on: 10 Nov 2009, 15:07 »

I read the first 3 months of SGR and my reaction is: "Why is this good?"
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #35 on: 11 Nov 2009, 05:02 »

If you read the first 3 months of any well-respected webcomic you will probably think that. You tend to have to give webcomics a wide berth when you are starting out with them, especially ones that have been running as long as SGR. 
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« Reply #36 on: 11 Nov 2009, 11:47 »

I don't know what it is but I have a hard time following Bad Machinery. I am trying my hardest to stay interested, but find myself skipping days. I was totally in love with SGR around the time of the jellyfish adventure, too. Is it still possible to find in the archives?
Yes click the link that says SGR Archive
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #37 on: 11 Nov 2009, 12:57 »

Yeah. I found it. Should have edited that entry to avoid looking like an idiot, but I am lazy!
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #38 on: 12 Nov 2009, 15:20 »

I read the first 3 months of SGR and my reaction is: "Why is this good?"

The art is wonderful and near enough every single panel is amusing.

The stories and characters are brilliant too.
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« Reply #39 on: 12 Nov 2009, 16:22 »

I read the first 3 months of SGR and my reaction is: "Why is this good?"

I will agree that SGR is a little difficult to get into (it took me two attempts) but when you actually sit down and appreciate the comic it is easily one of the best out there. Stories may take a little bit of time to develop but for a webcomic that ran for over 7 years, 3 months is hardly a fraction of the story.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #40 on: 13 Nov 2009, 19:40 »

Try to work through Templar Arizona
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« Reply #41 on: 14 Nov 2009, 08:43 »

Try to work through scoop out your brain with a plastic spoon

I really tried to get into Templar Arizona, but none of the characters meant anything to me because I was completely caught up and like none of them had any true depth, they had quirks. Granted this was maybe 1-2 years ago, maybe its different now.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #42 on: 20 Nov 2009, 12:45 »

I just realized after reading the strips where Ryan and Amy go to the Farmers Market thing that I am bit pissed off that I never got to see the moment where they started to date and got together.

I mean that would have been a really nice moment when Ryan realized that Amy liked him in that way and they got together.

Now they are just married and BORING.  They talked about their horrible situation when they couldn't afford to buy vegetables and stuff.  That time period would have been interesting reading.

It's so weird.  I don't really want to listen to a stories about really young kids or older married couples.  It's the stuff that is in between that makes the best stories and I feel gypped!
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #43 on: 21 Nov 2009, 06:32 »

That old woman has SOMETHING to do with the strange goings on at the soccer stadium.  That much is for sure.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #44 on: 23 Nov 2009, 02:28 »

She is a Russian Gypsy.  It is her curse.  Her fake eye is a magick 'un.
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« Reply #45 on: 23 Nov 2009, 02:34 »

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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #46 on: 02 Dec 2009, 20:50 »

Look at the size of that beard
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« Reply #47 on: 03 Dec 2009, 00:06 »

The only definitively positive thing I can say about Bad Machinery so far is that it has become the webcomics world leader in excellent beards
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #48 on: 03 Dec 2009, 02:11 »

So, a mysterious woodland monster?  Why do I feel like Bad Machinery is well on its way to turning back into SGR?
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« Reply #49 on: 03 Dec 2009, 02:25 »

Because they are in the same universe but with new (and some old) characters.
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