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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #50 on: 03 Dec 2009, 02:29 »

Except for that The Englishman has stated numerous times in various interviews and blogs and such that the whole idea of stopping SGR and starting under a new title was to signal a shift in tone and subject matter, much in the same way that he went from office romance/slice of life with Bobbins to supernatural/mystery with SGR.
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« Reply #51 on: 03 Dec 2009, 02:31 »

Maybe he was scared that he was losing readers and so he is bringing back the classics. Alternatively, it is a drug cartel putting LSD in the water. None of the events are actually happening, everyone is just really fucking high.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #52 on: 03 Dec 2009, 02:32 »

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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #53 on: 03 Dec 2009, 11:26 »

Yay, a demon!
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #54 on: 03 Dec 2009, 17:45 »

Hamilton Percy cameo! Holy shit!

(Hamilton Percy was the madman with the company that seemed to do nothing but move around large empty boxes who employed Shelley back when she was a zombie).
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #55 on: 03 Dec 2009, 19:51 »

(He also employed Eustice in the possible Pyramid scheme and took over the location of Hugo's company with his own)
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« Reply #56 on: 03 Dec 2009, 20:37 »

He was also complicit in a white slavery trafficking operation out of the Isle of Wight. 
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #57 on: 04 Dec 2009, 13:30 »

Except for that The Englishman has stated numerous times in various interviews and blogs and such that the whole idea of stopping SGR and starting under a new title was to signal a shift in tone and subject matter, much in the same way that he went from office romance/slice of life with Bobbins to supernatural/mystery with SGR.

That being said, SGR ended up being not a little bit romance-oriented itself, and (IMO) was a lot closer to Bobbins tone-wise at the end of its run than it initially started out as.  It's not impossible to see BM doing the same thing.

Except for that The Englishman has stated numerous times in various interviews and blogs and such that the whole idea of stopping SGR and starting under a new title was to signal a shift in tone and subject matter, much in the same way that he went from office romance/slice of life with Bobbins to supernatural/mystery with SGR.

Isn't the change from Shelley & Co. to Jack & Co. a good enough shift in tone and subject matter? Two different worlds right there. From his website:

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A. Certain characters are just done and will never come back. One or two are part of the new comic, but not central to it. Others might cameo, but Bad Machinery is a different sort of comic about a different generation and I think if I begin to wheel out old familiar faces, it will be a sign that things are going wrong creatively.

See, I don't think that's  reasonable of him to say BM would be going "wrong" if it turned into a continuation of SGR.  The Bobbins/SGR characters are basically the ones he's spent his whole creative life with, so I don't think anyone could blame him if he keeps coming up with stories for them.

As far as the change from Shelly & Co. to Jack & Co...  just remember SGR began with an explicit shift from Shelly & Co. to Rachel and Tessa & Co.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #58 on: 24 Dec 2009, 00:21 »

Erin? ERIN? ERIN?
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« Reply #59 on: 24 Dec 2009, 01:08 »

I remember her being bigger.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #60 on: 01 Jan 2010, 20:42 »

Silly John Allison, Women came out in 2008.
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« Reply #61 on: 01 Jan 2010, 21:12 »

This is my least favorite time for the comic. It's nice you like music Mr. Allison, but I needs mah stories.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #62 on: 02 Jan 2010, 13:43 »

A lot of comics just don't update at all at this time, don't bitch.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #63 on: 02 Jan 2010, 23:51 »

Yeah so the Erin thing has finally stuck a hook into me.  Unfortunately I haven't read the mini-comic, but I can't help feel that Erin's been adversely affected by her stay in the nether.  No-one can remember her for starters, but also I think she's probably up to no good :(
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« Reply #64 on: 03 Jan 2010, 20:07 »

A lot of comics just don't update at all at this time, don't bitch.

But it's not an update, it's word document with a character that hasn't shown up in this series yet.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #65 on: 04 Jan 2010, 09:11 »

I wonder if Bob Crowley got out as well?
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #66 on: 04 Jan 2010, 14:12 »

A lot of comics just don't update at all at this time, don't bitch.

But it's not an update, it's word document with a character that hasn't shown up in this series yet.

Man he does this every year I think you can survive a week without your stories
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #67 on: 05 Jan 2010, 05:54 »

I like the albums of the year. It's one of my favourite bits. I'm happy he is still doing it.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #68 on: 05 Jan 2010, 11:43 »

I like the albums of the year too but looking through the archives he seems to have gotten the years wrong on a few albums.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #69 on: 04 Feb 2010, 09:56 »

BM is indisputably my favourite comic now.

Achewood is so sporadic now and the commercialism has started to bother me a little.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #70 on: 04 Feb 2010, 23:14 »

Yeah is it me or does Achewood actually suck now? There are still some really solid turns of phrase in individual panels but it feels like Onstad just isn't trying to write stories anymore. I get the impression his heart isn't in it anymore?

It is cool if you quit making comics Chris Onstad, as long as you do something else, and do it well.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #71 on: 05 Feb 2010, 21:49 »

Ok, Erin flitted in and back out and now BM sucks again.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #72 on: 05 Feb 2010, 22:56 »

Yeah is it me or does Achewood actually suck now?

Suck is farther than I would go, but I wouldn't dispute that the sporadic updates are hurting the comic. It doesn't help that he set such a high standard for himself either. After all, there was a time when I'd check constantly because there was always the chance he might go on a tear like the time he cranked out Ebay Platinum Reserve immediately followed up by the Scientific Dong Study in what I think was a month or two. These days you might get two proper strips and a flow chart in a given week. Perhaps he should look into doing something else for a while. He's certainly wringed enough stories out of the Achewood cast that I could hardly blame him for feeling a bit painted in these days.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #73 on: 06 Feb 2010, 15:27 »

Well put Alex.. you can almost feel that urgency that Chris has about making money from achewood when the 'golden era' of achewood was long before any of this assetbar crap came along. he could have at least called his 'premium package' the 'platinum reserve achewood' but nooo..

at any rate... about Bad Machinery... I have this nasty tendancy of finally getting into a comic mere months before it dies off. as with SGR, I finally plowed through the whole archive only to find the story being finished! I hate when that happens. I did the same thing with Sconeborough(http://sconeborough.lmfao.org.uk/) and it's irrrrrrritating. I love SGR and often go into the archives to re-read some of my favourite storylines. still trying to warm up to BM but the focus on the younger kids is making it hard to identify with.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #74 on: 06 Feb 2010, 20:05 »

Yeah, I honestly just don't care about them all that much.  The two main girls are turgid little bints.  About the only ones I have any sort of interest in are Mildred and Jack.  I have a feeling Jack's gonna become one of the main characters along the way, if not already, but if it keeps focusing on Shauna and Charlotte without developing them further than "stereotypically annoying, mouthy kids" then I'm gonna be disappointed.  This is really annoying to me mainly because SGR was my favourite webcomic and I know that John A is a top-class guy trying his best to make good stuff.  I really *want* to like it, but unfortunately I'm finding that at the moment at least it is not to my taste.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #75 on: 07 Feb 2010, 02:51 »

I say we need more episodes with Shauna's little half-brother.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #76 on: 22 Feb 2010, 17:27 »

Personally I adore BM but there's a distinct possibility that a lot of the humour thus far has been more than a little Anglocentric. One thing you certainly can't fault is the art, which is just perfect right now.

I think it's really brave to see John A making his cast younger and younger because the young adult range is much easier to write. As he commented, with the latter you have lots of obvious material about sex and drinking etc. Personally I don't really like kids so I was more than a bit sceptical at first but I feel like I was challenged and then rewarded by something I like even more than the comics that went before. I get the feeling in the long term this series will turn out to be his legacy. Think how much time and space there is for the characters to grow, if indeed he continues it for as long as I hope he does.

Also, Shauna and Lottie are great. They have developed a lot since SGR, especially the former. Think what she was like before. Regardless, it will become more apparent as time goes by. If you go back to the start of Achewood, the three cats scarcely appeared and didn't even have names. I urge everyone to give it some more time.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #77 on: 09 Mar 2010, 18:30 »

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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #78 on: 09 Mar 2010, 19:20 »

THERE ARE SEV'RAL WITNESSES
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #79 on: 10 Mar 2010, 01:47 »

Oh hey thanks for reminding me I haven't read BM in ages. I agree with the people who say it is getting better as it goes along, and some of the art has been just perfect. I died laughing at the panel where the boys are at Linton's place and his mum tickles Jack. Also Mildred's face in the last panel of the most recent comic. So cute!
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #80 on: 10 Mar 2010, 08:27 »

Bad Machinery is getting better but I would like to enumerate my problems by requesting you all re-read a chapter from the best period of Scary Go Round, perhaps Bulgaria

Every page man. Sometimes every panel.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #81 on: 10 Mar 2010, 23:41 »

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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #82 on: 11 Mar 2010, 06:22 »

Gets worse! Hung for five years as decoration in office of Mikhail Gorbachev.

Actually man, current stuff is getting pretty gold.

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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #83 on: 11 Mar 2010, 06:43 »

I definitely agree that it's not of the same consistent brilliance that Scary Go Round reached at its peak, but I do reckon it's already improving on the quality of SGR's twilight months, which I guess was the point? Today's strip was great.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #84 on: 16 Mar 2010, 21:37 »

oh fuck i don't know why but i bust out laughing at the last panel of today's comic
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« Reply #85 on: 16 Mar 2010, 22:14 »

It is because it is hilarious! Sonny floating adrift from his bike, set for very bad things indeed is a masterstroke.

Also I am pretty sure Mildred is becoming my favourite character because of she gets the best facial expressions and she also seems to be potentially criminally insane ("I don't see how you can charge for TRIANGLES")
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« Reply #86 on: 18 Mar 2010, 14:36 »

Mildred and Sonny are the break-away stars for sure.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #87 on: 18 Mar 2010, 18:05 »

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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #88 on: 18 Mar 2010, 23:36 »

It's OK, she's a Likho and can fly, she'll be cool.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #89 on: 31 Mar 2010, 23:50 »

Early-teen Romance?

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« Reply #90 on: 01 Apr 2010, 06:37 »

I definitely like Bad Machinery more than SGR.
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« Reply #91 on: 01 Apr 2010, 15:46 »

Early-teen Romance?

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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #92 on: 14 Apr 2010, 03:55 »

Ok, I am liking it again now,

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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #93 on: 14 Apr 2010, 06:05 »

I say we need more episodes with Shauna's little half-brother.

John Allison I think perhaps you are reading this thread, no?

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« Reply #94 on: 15 Apr 2010, 13:53 »

I definitely like Bad Machinery more than SGR.

I'm not quite at this point but I'd agree that BM is as good already. I feel like it's somewhat inevitable that the newer comic will grow to be my favourite and I really hope he sticks at it.

A few years ago a crazy woman killed the drummer of my favourite band of all time. As a result, the band folded and later emerged as a different group with similar personnel. When I heard the music of the new band, part of me was privately disappointed because it wasn't what I had been expecting and I hadn't quite let go of the previous incarnation. It was obviously very good but it didn't feel like it was mine and thus I couldn't identify with it entirely, at least not in the way I had with the music by the departed band. A couple of years down the line, I went back to those records by the newer group and I couldn't believe how great it was. Nothing had changed about the records, the only thing which had changed was me, as a person.

Sometimes the best thing about art is when it waits for you to come around. On occasion, not immediately embracing something as genius is a good thing because it may very well mean that you will one day return with a fresh perspective and the payoff will be that much sweeter. Whilst I dont always understand why I am being challenged by art, when it happens I am always mesmerised with hindsight and immensely grateful for those who take risks with their creative endeavours.
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Re: Bad Machinery
« Reply #95 on: 25 Apr 2010, 16:26 »

The epilogue to the first story got me on-board properlike.  That there was obviously tentative FEELINS between Shauna and Jack was cool, but the whole Girls vs Boys solvin' problems angle was really unexpected and welcome, because the two of them meddling in the supernatural goings-on of the town and dragging their friends along with them almost makes up for the departure of Shelley's maniacally cheerful meddling, bringing the town back into balance.
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« Reply #96 on: 25 Apr 2010, 20:04 »

To be fair, that angle had been mentioned in the last SGR story and mentioned several times over the course of that first BM story
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« Reply #97 on: 26 Apr 2010, 02:32 »

Yes but I wasn't paying attention because it was different.
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« Reply #98 on: 27 Apr 2010, 22:07 »

Why is this one of my favorite webcomics all of the sudden?
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« Reply #99 on: 27 Apr 2010, 22:10 »

John Allison is probably poisoning you.
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