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Re: Greatest Album of the Decade Tournament, ROUND ONE
« Reply #50 on: 05 Sep 2009, 05:02 »

BRACKET ONE
Kid A
Takk...
Reconstruction Site
Some Loud Thunder
Franz Ferdinand
(not voting)
Hold On Now, Youngster...
The Argument

BRACKET EIGHT
Things We Lost In The Fire
Fever to Tell
Travels with Myself and Another
Relationship of Command
Happy Songs for Happy People
Mirrored
(not voting)
Wonderful Rainbow

BRACKET FIVE
Sound of Silver
Icky Thump
All Hail West Texas
Alive 2007
(not voting)
(not voting)
Feels
You Forgot It In People

BRACKET FOUR
Mclusky Do Dallas
Return to Cookie Mountain
Silent Alarm
Akuma No Uta
Gorillaz
Turn On The Bright Lights
Silent Shout
Jane Doe

BRACKET SIX
Discovery
Castaways & Cutouts
Black Sheep Boy
Random Spirit Lover (sheesh! both of these are in my personal top 10)
Strawberry Jam
(not voting)
Since I Left You
Feed The Animals

BRACKET THREE
Lift Yr Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven
The Blueprint
Before The Dawn Heals Us
Person Pitch
Broken Social Scene
(not voting)
Demon Days
They Threw Us All In a Trench and Stuck a Monument On Top

BRACKET SEVEN
Merriweather Post Pavilion
From a Basement on the Hill
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
(not voting)
Microcastle/Weird Era Cont.
Is This It
Nite Versions
Ágćtis Byrjun

BRACKET TWO
Funeral
Cross
Who Will Cut Our Hair When We're Gone?
In Rainbows
Neon Bible
Apologies to the Queen Mary
Dear Science,
Leaves Turn Inside You
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Re: Greatest Album of the Decade Tournament, ROUND ONE
« Reply #51 on: 05 Sep 2009, 05:29 »

Lala is not available outside the US.

You might want to consider spotify. I found quite a lot of the albums I hadn't heard on there, but it does require registration, download and has adverts between tracks periodically.
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Re: Greatest Album of the Decade Tournament, ROUND ONE
« Reply #52 on: 05 Sep 2009, 07:39 »

BRACKET ONE

Radiohead-Kid A
Silkworm-Italian Platinum
65daysofstatic-The Fall of Math
The Flaming Lips-Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots
...And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead-Source Tags & Codes
Electric Wizard-Dopethrone
Los Campesinos-Hold On Now, Youngster...
Fugazi-The Argument

BRACKET EIGHT

Low-Things We Lost in the Fire
MONO-Hymn to the Immortal Wind
Sleater-Kinney-All Hands on the Bad One
Death From Above 1979-You're a Woman, I'm a Machine
Mogwai-Happy Songs for Happy People
Battles-Mirrored
Sleater-Kinney-The Woods
Lightning Bolt-Wonderful Rainbow

BRACKET FIVE

LCD Soundsystem-Sound of Silver
The White Stripes-Icky Thump
Bob Dylan-Love & Theft
Daft Punk-Alive 2007
Cat Power-You Are Free
MONO-You Are There
Grizzly Bear-Veckatimest
Broken Social Scene-You Forgot It In People

BRACKET FOUR

Mclusky-Mclusky Do Dallas
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Agalloch-Ashes Against the Grain
Boris-Akuma No Uta
Gorillaz-Gorillaz
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Converge-Jane Doe

BRACKET SIX

Daft Punk-Discovery
Bottomless Pit-Hammer of the Gods
Okkervil River-Black Sheep Boy
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Isis-Panopticon
Belle & Sebastian-Dear Catastrophe Waitress
OM-Variations on a Theme (It's a shame that this isn't on lala, for anyone who hasn't heard it, you can't really get any idea about this album from the short samples.)

BRACKET THREE

Godspeed You! Black Emperor-Lift Yr Skinny Fists Like Antennae to Heaven
Eluvium-Talk Amongst the Trees
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Panda Bear-Person Pitch
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M83-Saturdays=Youth
Modest Mouse-The Moon & Antarctica

BRACKET SEVEN

Animal Collective-Merriweather Post Pavilion
Elliot Smith-From a Basement on the Hill
Wilco-Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
Black Moth Super Rainbow-Dandelion Gum
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The Strokes-Is This It?
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Boris with Michio Kurihara-Rainbow

BRACKET TWO

Arcade Fire-Funeral
Justice-Cross
The Unicorns-Who Will Cut Our Hair When We're Gone?
Radiohead-In Rainbows
The Hold Steady-Separation Sunday
The Aquabats-Myths, Legends, and Other Amazing Adventures
Mogwai-Mr. Beast
Owls-Owls


Edit: I'm running out of time and probably won't finish this. Good enough, anyway.
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Re: Greatest Album of the Decade Tournament, ROUND ONE
« Reply #53 on: 05 Sep 2009, 08:04 »

What's with all the fucking Animal Collective?

I'm submitting three votes. One for each of the Boris albums (including Rainbow), and one for Future of the Left.
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Re: Greatest Album of the Decade Tournament, ROUND ONE
« Reply #54 on: 05 Sep 2009, 08:23 »

And where are The Thermals?
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Re: Greatest Album of the Decade Tournament, ROUND ONE
« Reply #55 on: 05 Sep 2009, 08:58 »

Bracket One
Kid A
Takk…
The Fall Of Math
Yoshimi
Franz Ferdinand
Lemon Of Pink
GaGaGaGaGa
The Argument

Bracket Eight
Things We Lost
Hymn To The Immortal Wind
Travels With Myself
You’re A Woman
Happy Songs
Mirrored
The Mantle
Transatlanticism

Bracket Five
Sound Of Silver
In Absentia
All Hail West Texas
Alive 2007
Endless Numbered Days
You Are There
Veckatimest
You Forgot It

Bracket Four
Mclusky Do Dallas
Cookie Mountain
Ashes Against the Grain
Crack The Skye
Give Up
Starfucker
Silent Shout
Hissing Fauna

Bracket Six
Discovery
Castaways and Cutouts
Black Sheep Boy
The Sunset Tree
Strawberry Jam
Panopticon
Since I Left You
Feed The Animals

Bracket Three
Lift Yr Skinny Fists
Talk Amongst the Trees
Set Yourself on Fire
Person Pitch
Broken Social Scene
We Are the Romans
Saturdays = Youth
Moon and Antarctica

Bracket Seven
Merriweather Post Pavillion
Favourite Worst Nightmare
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
Dandelion Gum
Microcastle
Is This It?
Hearts Of Oak
Ágćtis Byrjun

Bracket Two
Funeral
Illinoise!
Third
In Rainbows
Neon Bible
Queen Mary
Dear Science
Owls



Veckatimest over Feels and Illinoise over Cross were particularly devastating choices.

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Re: Greatest Album of the Decade Tournament, ROUND ONE
« Reply #56 on: 05 Sep 2009, 10:27 »

Please, make sure to vote in every match as it will make counting votes much easier. Skipping a match will either result in whoever is counting up the votes filling in an answer for you, or your votes not being counted.

I just noticed this. It's a really bad idea for the person counting up the votes to decide themselves what the vote should be if someone's skipped a match, it'll only end in trouble. If it's a massive amount of extra hassle then maybe discount someone's votes (although I'm a bit puzzled as to why it makes things so much more complicated), but if you take the votes yourselves you'll just completely skew the results.

Wait yeah, this souns like a pretty bad idea

I don't understand why someone has to fill in skipped votes in the first place. If this is an elimination-style thing, then skipping a few votes shouldn't make a difference
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Re: Greatest Album of the Decade Tournament, ROUND ONE
« Reply #57 on: 05 Sep 2009, 10:52 »

Lala is not available outside the US.

You might want to consider spotify. I found quite a lot of the albums I hadn't heard on there, but it does require registration, download and has adverts between tracks periodically.

Spotify doesnt work in canada arg
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Re: Greatest Album of the Decade Tournament, ROUND ONE
« Reply #58 on: 05 Sep 2009, 11:10 »

all skipped votes will be filled with gatefold by orchid. anyone who says otherwise will be banished from the tournament for all eternity.
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Re: Greatest Album of the Decade Tournament, ROUND ONE
« Reply #59 on: 05 Sep 2009, 12:28 »

People, why aren't you all voting for Beulah?
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Re: Greatest Album of the Decade Tournament, ROUND ONE
« Reply #60 on: 05 Sep 2009, 12:49 »

Please, make sure to vote in every match as it will make counting votes much easier. Skipping a match will either result in whoever is counting up the votes filling in an answer for you, or your votes not being counted.

I just noticed this. It's a really bad idea for the person counting up the votes to decide themselves what the vote should be if someone's skipped a match, it'll only end in trouble. If it's a massive amount of extra hassle then maybe discount someone's votes (although I'm a bit puzzled as to why it makes things so much more complicated), but if you take the votes yourselves you'll just completely skew the results.
Wait yeah, this souns like a pretty bad idea

I don't understand why someone has to fill in skipped votes in the first place. If this is an elimination-style thing, then skipping a few votes shouldn't make a difference
Yeah, that's a really stupid rule.  It doesn't make a lick of difference if people skip a match.

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Re: Greatest Album of the Decade Tournament, ROUND ONE
« Reply #61 on: 05 Sep 2009, 14:17 »

Have heard of only some of these and do not have the internet capabilities to listen to any of those I do not know...so I will vote on what I can

Bracket One

n/a
Takk...
n/a
Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots
Franz Ferdinand
The Lemon of Pink
n/a
n/a

Bracket Eight

n/a
n/a
n/a
n/a
How Strange, Innocence
Leviathan
n/a
Transatlanticism

Bracket Five

n/a
Icky Thump
Love and Theft
Alive 2007
Our Endless Numbered Days
The Earth is Not a Cold, Dead Place
Veckatimest
n/a

Bracket Four

Lose All Time
n/a
n/a
Crack the Skye
Gorillaz
n/a
n/a
n/a

Bracket Six

Discovery
Castaways & Cutouts
Black Sheep Boy
n/a
n/a
n/a
Dear Catastrophe Waitress
n/a

Bracket Three

n/a
n/a
n/a
n/a
n/a
n/a
Demon Days
n/a

Bracket Seven - n/a (Ouch, I feel ignorant)

Bracket Two

n/a
n/a
n/a
n/a
Neon Bible
n/a
Mr. Beast
n/a

Um, stupid question but, uhhh...why not have Bracket One, Two, Three, Four, et cetera?
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Re: Greatest Album of the Decade Tournament, ROUND ONE
« Reply #62 on: 05 Sep 2009, 14:41 »

BRACKET ONE
Kid A
Italian Platinum
Reconstruction Site
Yoshimi
Source Tags & Codes
Dopethrone
Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga
The Argument

BRACKET EIGHT
Of Course
Fever to Tell
Travels With Myself and Another
You're a Woman, I'm a Machine
Happy Songs for Happy People
Mirrored
The Mantle
Wonderful Rainbow

BRACKET FIVE
Sounds of Silver
Icky Thump (really not too excited by either choice)
All Hail West Texas
Alive 2007
You Are Free
You Are There
Feels
You Forgot It in People

BRACKET FOUR
Mclusky Do Dallas
Return to Cookie Mountain
Ashes Against the Grain
Akuma no Uta
Give Up
Turn on the Bright Lights
Silent Shout
Hissing Fauna

BRACKET SIX
Discovery
Hammer of the Gods
The Letting Go
Random Spirit Lover
Strawberry Jam
Panopticon
Since I Left You
Variations on a Theme

BRACKET THREE
Skinny Fists
The Blueprint
Before the Dawn Heals Us
Spirit They're Gone, Spirit They've Vanished
Broken Social Scene
Dead Meadow
Saturdays = Youth
They Threw Us All in a Trench and Stuck a Monument on Top

BRACKET SEVEN
Run to Ruin
From a Basement on the Hill
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
Dandelion Gum
Microcastle/Weird Era Cont.
Yoko
Nite Versions
Rainbow

BRACKET TWO
Funeral

Who Will Cut Our Hair When We're Gone?
In Rainbows
Separation Sunday
Apologies to the Queen Mary
Dear Science
Owls

I'm not totally sure about some of these decisions, but I'm running out of time, so there it is.
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Re: Greatest Album of the Decade Tournament, ROUND ONE
« Reply #63 on: 05 Sep 2009, 15:11 »

Bracket One
Marissa Nadler - Songs III: Bird on the Water
Sigur Rós - Takk...
65daysofstatic - The Fall of Math
Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots
...And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead - Source Tags & Codes
The Books - The Lemon of Pink
Spoon - Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga
Owen - At Home With Owen


Oh God this is so hard.  I can only listen to one bracket at a time, and even then it was sometimes hard to find an album I wanted to vote for.  I'll fill it in as I can find courage to listen to more.

Edit:  How bad could Bracket Eight be?

Low - Things We Lost in the Fire
Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Fever to Tell
Future of the Left -  Travels with Myself and Another
At the Drive-In - Relationship of Command


I can't do this any more.  I have found maybe one or two albums that I didn't hate.  I have no business voting here.
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Re: Greatest Album of the Decade Tournament, ROUND ONE
« Reply #64 on: 05 Sep 2009, 16:02 »

Yeah, can someone make sure whoever's running it does this intelligently, and just counts no-votes as, uh, "no-votes"? Doesn't seem too hard to do.
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Re: Greatest Album of the Decade Tournament, ROUND ONE
« Reply #65 on: 05 Sep 2009, 20:30 »

Bracket One
Marissa Nadler – Songs III: Bird on the Water
Silkworm – Italian Platinum
The Weakerthans – Reconstruction Site
Flaming Lips – Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots
Franz Ferdinand – S/T
Electric Wizard – Dopethrone
Spoon - Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga
Fugazi – The Argument

Bracket Eight
Low – Things We Lost in the Fire
MONO – Hymn to the Immortal Wind
Sleater-Kinney – All Hands on the Bad One
Pass
Mogwai – Happy Songs for Happy People
Mastodon – Leviathan
Sleater-Kinney – The Woods
Lightning Bolt - Wonderful Rainbow

Bracket Five
LCD Soundsystem – Sound of Silver
The White Stripes – Icky Thump
The Mountain Goats – All Hail West Texas
Fiery Furnaces – Blueberry Boat
Iron & Wine – Our Endless Numbered Days
Explosions in the Sky – The Earth is Not a Cold Dead Place
Grizzly Bear – Veckatimest
Broken Social Scene – You Forgot It In People

Bracket Four
Mclusky – Mclusky Do Dallas
The New Year – The New Year
Agalloch – Ashes Against the Grain
Boris – Akuma No Uta
The Postal Service – Give Up
Pass
Hercules and Love Affair – Hercules and Love Affair
Of Montreal – Hissing Fauna, Are You the Destroyer?

Bracket Six
Q + Not U – No Kill Beep Beep
Bottomless Pit – Hammer of the Gods
Okkervil River – Black Sheep Boy
The Mountain Goats – Sunset Tree
Opeth - Damnation
Voxtrot – Mothers, Sisters, Daughters & Wives EP
Belle & Sebastian – Dear Catastrophe Waitress
OM – Variations on a Theme

Bracket Three
Godspeed You! Black Emperor – Lift Yr Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven
Eluvium – Talk Amongst the Trees
Pass
Animal Collective – Spirit They've Gone, Spirit They've Vanished
The New Pornographers – Mass Romantic
Botch – We Are the Romans
M83 – Saturdays = Youth
Liars – They Threw Us All in a Trench and Stuck a Monument on Top

Bracket Seven
Nina Nastasia – Run to Ruin
Elliott Smith – From a Basement on the Hill
Wilco – Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
The Microphones – The Grow Pt. 2
Yo La Tengo – I Am Not Afraid of You And I Will Beat Your Ass
Beulah – Yoko
Ted Leo & The Pharmacists – Hearts of Oak
Boris with Michio Kurihara – Rainbow

Bracket Two
Arcade Fire – Funeral
Sufjan Stevens – Come On Feel the Illinoise!
The Unicorns – Who Will Cut Our Hair When We're Gone
Radiohead – In Rainbows
The Hold Steady - Separation Sunday
Wolf Parade – Apologies to the Queen Mary
Mogwai – Mr. Beast
Owls – Owls


Hardest matchups? Low/Make Believe, and Fugazi/Owen. Also guys we are better than Merriweather Post Pavilion. We can beat this, we are not Pitchfork. Don't make it a less successful (much less) Aeroplane Over the Sea. Please. Besides, Run to Ruin is an amazing album, far better than MPP by all counts.

EDIT - Changed a vote from Death Cab.
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Re: Greatest Album of the Decade Tournament, ROUND ONE
« Reply #66 on: 05 Sep 2009, 21:59 »

Bracket One:
Marissa Nadler - Songs III: Bird On The Water
Sigur Ros - Takk
65daysofstatic - The Fall Of Math
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah - Some Loud Thunder
Franz Ferdinand - S/T
Electric Wizard - Dopethrone
Spoon - Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga
Fugazi - The Argument


Bracket Eight:
Make Believe - Of Course
Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Fever To Tell
Future Of The Left - Travels with Myself and Another
At The Drive-In - Relationship Of Command
Mogwai - Happy Songs for Happy People
Mastodon - Leviathan
Agalloch - The Mantle
Lightning Bolt - Wonderful Rainbow


Bracket Five:
LCD Soundsystem - Sound Of Silver
Porcupine Tree - In Absentia
The Mountain Goats - All hail West Texas
Fiery Furnaces - Blueberry Boat
Iron & Wine - Our Endless Numbered Days
Explosions In The Sky - The Earth Is Not A Cold Dead Place
Grizzly Bear - Veckatimest
Bohren & Der Club Of Gore - Black Earth


Bracket Four:
You Say Party! We Say Die! - Lose All Time
TV On The Radio - Return To Cookie Mountain
pass
Mastodon - Crack The Skye
The Postal Service - Give Up
Starfucker - S/T
The Knife - Silent Shout
of Montreal - Hissing Fauna, Are You The Destroyer?


Bracket Six:
Q and Not U - No Kill Beep Beep
The Decemberists - Castaways and Cutouts
Okkervil River - Black Sheep Boy
The Mountain Goats - The Sunset Tree
Animal Collective - Strawberry Jam
ISIS - Panopticon
The Avalanches - Since I Left You
Girl Talk - Feed The Animals


Bracket Three:
Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Skinny Fists
Eluvium - Talk Amongst The Trees
M83 - Before The Dawn Heals Us
Panda Bear - Person Pitch
The New Pornographers - Mass Romantic
Botch - We Are The Romans
M83 - Saturdays = Youth
Liars - Stuck a Mountain Top On Us


Bracket Seven:
Animal Collective - MPP
Elliot Smith - From a Basement On the Hill
Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
Black Moth Super Rainbow - Dandelion Gum
Deerhunter - Microcastle
Beulah - Yoko
Soulwax - Nite Versions
Boris w/ Michio Kurihara - Rainbow


Bracket Two:
The Lucksmiths - Warmer Corners
Sufjan Stevens - Illinois
The Unicorns - Who Will Cut Our Hair?
pass
The Hold Steady - Seperation Sunday
Wolf Parade - Apologies To The Queen Mary
TV On The Radio - Dear Science
Owls - S/T




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Re: Greatest Album of the Decade Tournament, ROUND ONE
« Reply #67 on: 05 Sep 2009, 22:12 »

man I gotta hear this Marissa Nadler album that people are voting over Kid A for because I kind of assumed that was a shoe in right there


Also what kind of horrible decision was it making me choose between Sound of Silver and Blast Tyrant in the first round (sorry Clutch)
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Re: Greatest Album of the Decade Tournament, ROUND ONE
« Reply #68 on: 05 Sep 2009, 22:46 »

I only voted for it because I can't, in good conscience, vote for a Radiohead album.  I could vote for an album of Radiohead songs performed by people other than Radiohead (within reason, of course), but I just can't get into Radiohead's execution of their songs at all.  Yes, I know this marks me as anathema to indie fans, but this is how I feel.
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« Reply #69 on: 05 Sep 2009, 22:51 »

is it any good though?
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Re: Greatest Album of the Decade Tournament, ROUND ONE
« Reply #70 on: 05 Sep 2009, 22:54 »

It's at least vaguely acceptable.  If you like really simple, folk-y music, it's probably pretty good (well, someone legitimately voted to have it in the list, at least).
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Re: Greatest Album of the Decade Tournament, ROUND ONE
« Reply #71 on: 06 Sep 2009, 01:52 »

It's actually really good for what it is - a great example of the genre whereas Kid A is mostly pseudo-artsy bullshit and a poor example of ambient, rhythm centric electronica. Thankfully, Yorke's The Eraser was a massive step up from it. Still, not album of decade material.
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Re: Greatest Album of the Decade Tournament, ROUND ONE
« Reply #72 on: 06 Sep 2009, 02:02 »

The Marissa Nadler album is pretty remarkable, honestly, and I'm glad someone nominated since I haven't heard it before. It's just unfortunate that Kid A is basically the only Radiohead album I genuinely enjoy on any level (I guess I'm voting In Rainbows over Kings of Leon though but whatever), I mean if Silkworm makes it to the second round and it goes against Radiohead like it's looking then that is definitely a no-brainer type of match for me. Sigur Ros against Radiohead would be a bit harder.

I was mostly just tortured by the fact that one entire bracket had a bunch of stuff I didn't care about, while others had extremely hard match-ups (Sleater-Kinney versus Future of the Left, Battles versus Mastodon, The Unicorns and Portishead.)

Um, stupid question but, uhhh...why not have Bracket One, Two, Three, Four, et cetera?

I think because the brackets themselves are seeded as well?

I'm also pretty sure anyone who's concerned probably shouldn't worry too much about Animal Collective taking the whole thing, the other number 1 seeds are really stiff competition. It could very well take its bracket though, but should maybe look out for Yankee Hotel Foxtrot.
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Re: Greatest Album of the Decade Tournament, ROUND ONE
« Reply #73 on: 06 Sep 2009, 04:00 »

It's actually really good for what it is - a great example of the genre whereas Kid A is mostly pseudo-artsy bullshit and a poor example of ambient, rhythm centric electronica. Thankfully, Yorke's The Eraser was a massive step up from it. Still, not album of decade material.

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Re: Greatest Album of the Decade Tournament, ROUND ONE
« Reply #74 on: 06 Sep 2009, 05:28 »

yeah it almost sounds like you are trying to describe Amnesiac but maybe you took too much Ketamine instead because that is just not a very good description of Kid A to be honest.

Also it is possible I might actually hate the Eraser more than I hate Hitler but it's hard to tell because The Eraser never really killed 30 million people
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« Reply #75 on: 06 Sep 2009, 09:51 »

The filling in votes thing was just kind of a threat to encourage people to vote in every match.

Let me take a moment to explain the desire for everyone to vote in every match (though, it's obvious that won't be happening, which I suppose is fine).

By having people vote in every match, it introduces an element of chance that is a part of any sort of tournament (see: NCAA basketball) or any sort of democratic process (see: People who don't know anything about politics voting for President). By having people voting in every chance, a very dynamic, unpredictable thing can happen that makes tournaments exciting (who doesn't enjoy seeing something like George Mason get to the Final Four or Barack Obama winning the Iowa caucus?).

Secondly, and less importantly, by having the same amount of votes for every match, it serves as an effective double-check for vote counting. If every match has 70 votes, and a match ends up 35 votes to 36 votes in your counting, you know you've done something wrong but, if all the matches have different vote counts, you may not realize the match is actually a tie until, I don't know, three rounds later when someone points it out and, oh shit, what are we going to do?


Anyway, there's the reasoning behind that rule, though it has become readily apparent that no one approves of it, which I was actually kind of shocked by.

Regardless, I started running the tournament to have fun doing it but, it seems as though the disconnect between my tournament-running style and the social dynamic of the board might be too far removed for either group to have a good time doing it. So, I think it would probably be better if someone else ran this? I think that everyone would have a better time that way. E Spaceman? scarred?

So, yeah. I hope you guys have a good time with this tournament. Good luck!
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« Reply #76 on: 06 Sep 2009, 10:22 »

I don't think we necessarily want to drive you out, dude, there are just some people voting in this tournament who are hardly voting for anything and if their votes were all filled in then that would probably fuck up the results pretty bad. I'm not so sure it's a social dynamic as much as we all realize that some people voting will not care to listen to some things or will just straight up vote for only the things they've heard of. Asking them to vote in 5/6 of the matches based on nothing, or filling them in arbitrarily would just be bad and would cause a loss of legitimacy for the results.

And there are plenty of people (like myself) who are voting in every match anyway, so it's not like the chance you talk about isn't present.
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« Reply #77 on: 06 Sep 2009, 13:27 »

By having people vote in every match, it introduces an element of chance that is a part of any sort of tournament (see: NCAA basketball) or any sort of democratic process (see: People who don't know anything about politics voting for President). By having people voting in every chance, a very dynamic, unpredictable thing can happen that makes tournaments exciting (who doesn't enjoy seeing something like George Mason get to the Final Four or Barack Obama winning the Iowa caucus?).

As a person who lives in a country with compulsory voting I can assure you that making people vote does not produce exciting, unpredictable results

quite the opposite!
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« Reply #78 on: 06 Sep 2009, 13:45 »

I don't really understand the attitude that everyone who votes for Animal Collective/likes them is some kind of bandwagon-ing Pitchfork dick-suck. A lot of people just genuinely enjoy their music for what it is outside of hype. Seems kinda ridiculous to assume that when something becomes vaguely popular, everyone who likes that music is only doing so because it's fashionable to do so. I think MPP is a legitimately great album of psychedelic/experimental electronic pop, and would have thought that regardless of what score it got on Pitchfork. If you don't like AC, fine, but don't wear it like a crown of anti-hipster backlash.
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« Reply #79 on: 06 Sep 2009, 13:57 »

I Am Not Amused: I'm not complaining about the way you're running things here, and I understand where you're coming from about wanting people to participate in all of the matches. Personally, I'm trying to download and listen to most of albums I haven't heard (a good 20% of the list here) so I can make somewhat intelligent choices, but I know that a lot of people probably don't have that kind of free time, and would rather just not vote instead of picking albums at random and skewing the results.

I don't think it's necessarily a criticism of your tournament running style.. more of a convenience thing.  Maybe people would make more of an effort to listen to the stuff they don't already know if you extended the deadline or something?  I dunno.
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« Reply #80 on: 06 Sep 2009, 13:59 »

I don't really understand the attitude that everyone who votes for Animal Collective/likes them is some kind of bandwagon-ing Pitchfork dick-suck. A lot of people just genuinely enjoy their music for what it is outside of hype. Seems kinda ridiculous to assume that when something becomes vaguely popular, everyone who likes that music is only doing so because it's fashionable to do so. I think MPP is a legitimately great album of psychedelic/experimental electronic pop, and would have thought that regardless of what score it got on Pitchfork. If you don't like AC, fine, but don't wear it like a crown of anti-hipster backlash.

I am getting sick of hearing about Pitchfork because the only two places I ever here anyone mention it are here, and at the very, very worst house parties and so every single person I have met in the flesh who actually knows what Pitchfork is is a tedious dickbag and so you guys keep giving me flashbacks auuuuuugh


as for making everyone listen to every single album up for voting, this is a ridiculous idea for many reasons.

1) The albums linked only work in the US. This puts anyone outside the US at an automatic disadvantage as we have to track down half the albums ourselves.

2) In a few cases even when I've heard both albums I've abstained because I think they're both pretty bad or nothing special

3) It would probably take about a month of straight listening to listen to the albums on the list I haven't heard. How long would it take to get EVERYONE to listen to all the albums they haven't heard?

4) Most of the albums I have heard on this list I have a personal history with in some form or another hence why I voted for them, that usually takes a while to develop. Kid A for example reminds me of a very specific point in my life, the only thing that Marissa Nadler album is going to remind me of is that time I participated in a giant album knockout tournament



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« Reply #81 on: 06 Sep 2009, 14:03 »

But, with those people, it's really fun to set them on each other.  They spend the entire party trying to come up with bands the other person hasn't heard of.  I was once chatting up a girl at one of those parties, and one of those people started talking to me, which was miserable, but then another one showed up and they spent the entire time doing the above while the cute girl and I sat and laughed at them.
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« Reply #82 on: 06 Sep 2009, 14:11 »

The only reason I brought up Pitchfork is because the fact that they gave MPP a high score seems to be the justification for people who don't like Animal Collective to immediately dismiss any of their fans as being Pitchfork drones. I agree with you Hat, Pitchfork (and the people who actually talk about it) are fucking annoying and tedious namedroppers for the most part. I'm arguing that it's unfair to assume that anyone who likes a band that a particular website also likes somehow got their tastes purely from that website. People who like AC should not be strawmen for bashing Pitchfork. If you want to do that, just go, "Hey, I don't like Pitchfork. Or Animal Collective. That is my opinion and you guys can also have an opinion that is different from mine without being pigeon-holed."
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« Reply #83 on: 06 Sep 2009, 14:20 »

The only reason I brought up Pitchfork is because the fact that they gave MPP a high score seems to be the justification for people who don't like Animal Collective to immediately dismiss any of their fans as being Pitchfork drones. I agree with you Hat, Pitchfork (and the people who actually talk about it) are fucking annoying and tedious namedroppers for the most part. I'm arguing that it's unfair to assume that anyone who likes a band that a particular website also likes somehow got their tastes purely from that website. People who like AC should not be strawmen for bashing Pitchfork. If you want to do that, just go, "Hey, I don't like Pitchfork. Or Animal Collective. That is my opinion and you guys can also have an opinion that is different from mine without being pigeon-holed."

You have now mentioned that website in two posts now making you the person on this page who is talking about it the most so please stop
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« Reply #84 on: 06 Sep 2009, 14:56 »

You are making Hat uncomfortable with your words.
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« Reply #85 on: 06 Sep 2009, 15:33 »

I am getting sick of hearing about Pitchfork because the only two places I ever here anyone mention it are here, and at the very, very worst house parties and so every single person I have met in the flesh who actually knows what Pitchfork is is a tedious dickbag and so you guys keep giving me flashbacks auuuuuugh

I was under the impression that Pitchfork was more of a "gorilla in the room" sort of topic; everyone knows what it is, but to actually mention or reference it is considered vulgar. I guess it is Americentric to assume, but I hadn't realized there were that many people who hadn't heard of it.

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« Reply #86 on: 06 Sep 2009, 15:36 »

Hat, you're like my friend who has this strange reaction to the sound of Styrofoam. It actually makes him physically ill to hear it; it's like his kryptonite.
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« Reply #87 on: 06 Sep 2009, 15:38 »

The Sound of Styrofoam

Betcha Pitchfork would like that CD
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« Reply #88 on: 06 Sep 2009, 15:43 »

I was under the impression that Pitchfork was more of a "gorilla in the room" sort of topic; everyone knows what it is, but to actually mention or reference it is considered vulgar. I guess it is Americentric to assume, but I hadn't realized there were that many people who hadn't heard of it.

Well it probably helps they hold a massive music festival every year. Also it is an internet website and a lot of people still do not take the internet that seriously (they will pay)

Hat, you're like my friend who has this strange reaction to the sound of Styrofoam. It actually makes him physically ill to hear it; it's like his kryptonite.

Not gonna lie, styrofoam pushes my buttons as well, also people who rub balloons with their hands



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« Reply #89 on: 06 Sep 2009, 16:01 »

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« Reply #90 on: 06 Sep 2009, 16:18 »

Bracket 1

Kid A
Takk
Reconstruction
Pink Robots
FF
Lemon of Pink
Hold On Now, Youngster
Argument

Bracket 8

Lost in the Fire
Immortal Wind
Myself and Another
Relationship of Command
Happy Songs
Mirrored
Mantle
Transatlantacism

Bracket 5

Sound of Silver
Icky Thump
Love & Theft
Blueberry Boat
Endless Numbered Days
Cold Dead Place
Feels
You Forgot it...

Bracket 4

Mcluksy do Dallas
Cookie Mountain
Silent Alarm
Akuma no Uta
Give Up
Turn on the Bright Lights
Silent Shout
Hissing Fauna


Bracket 6

No Kill No Beep Beep
Castaways and Cutouts
The Letting Go
Sunset Tree
Strawberry Jam
Panopticon
Catastrophe Waitress
Feed the animals

Bracket 3

Skinny Fists
Blueprint
Set youself on fire
Spirit They've Gone
Broken Social Scene
We Are the Romans
Demon Days
Moon & Antartica

Bracket 7

Merriweather
Favourite Worst Nightmare
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
Dandelion Gum
Microcastles...
Is this it
Hearts of Oak
Ágćtis Byrjun 

Bracket 2

Funeral
Illinoise
Cut our hair
In Rainbows
Neon Bible
Apologies...
Mr Beast
Owls

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Re: Greatest Album of the Decade Tournament, ROUND ONE
« Reply #91 on: 06 Sep 2009, 16:22 »

The Sound of Styrofoam

Betcha Pitchfork would like that CD

Not quite.

"A short album about murder" is pretty good though.
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« Reply #92 on: 06 Sep 2009, 16:27 »

Bracket 1
Radiohead - Kid A
Silkworm - Italian Platinum
65daysofstatic - The Fall of Math
Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robot
Franz Ferdinand - Franz Ferdinand
Electric Wizard - Dope Throne
Los Campesinos - Hold on Now, Youngster...
Fugazi - The Argument

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Low - Things We Lost in the Fire
Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Fever to Tell
Future of the Left - Travels With Myself and Another
Death From Above 1979 - You're a Woman, I'm a Machine
Mogwai - Happy Songs for Happy People
Battles - Mirrored
Slater-Keany - The Woods
Lightning Bolt - Wonderful Rainbow

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Clutch - Blast Tyrant
The White Stripes - Icky Thump
The Mountain Goats - All Hail West Texas
Daft Punk - Alive 2007
Iron & Wine - Our Endless Numbered Days
Explosions in the Sky - The Earth is Not a Cold, Dead Place
Grizzly Bear - Veckatimest
Broken Social Scene - You Forgot it in People

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Mclusky - Mclusky Do Dallas
TV on the Radio - Return to Cookie Mountain
Bloc Party - Silent Alarm
Boris - Akuma No Uta
Gorillaz - Gorillaz
Starfucker - Starfucker
Hercules and Love Affair - Hercules and Love Affair
Of Montreal - Hissing Fauna, Are You the Destroyer?

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Q + Not U - No Kill Beep Beep
The Decemberists - Castaways & Cutouts
Okkervil River - Black Sheep Boy
Sunset Rubdown - Random Spirit Lover
Animal Collective - Strawberry Jam
Voxtrot - Mothers, Sisters, Daughters & Wives
Belle and Sebastian - Dear Catastrophe Waitress
Girl Talk - Feed the Animals

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Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Lift Yr Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven
Eluvium - Talk Amongst the Trees
Stars - Set Yourself on Fire
Animal Collective - Spirit They're Gone, Spirit They've Vanished
The New Pornographers - Mass Romantic
Dead Meadow - Dead Meadow
Gorillaz - Demon Days
Modest Mouse - The Moon and Antarctica

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Nina Nastasia - Run to Ruin
Elliot Smith - From a Basement on the Hill
Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
Black Moth Super Rainbow - Dandelion Gum
Yo La Tengo - I am Not Afraid of You and I will Beat Your Ass
Beaulah - Yoko
Ted Leo and the Pharmacists - Hearts of Oak
Brois with Michio Kurihara - Rainbow

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Arcade Fire - Funeral
Justice - Cross
Portishead - Third
Radiohead - In Rainbows
The Hold Steady - Separation Sunday
Wolf Parade - Apologies to the Queen Mary
TV on the Radio - Dear Science
Owls - Owls
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« Reply #93 on: 06 Sep 2009, 16:29 »

The Sound of Styrofoam

Betcha Pitchfork would like that CD

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« Reply #94 on: 06 Sep 2009, 22:50 »

I think I will abstain from the next round, or until I can vote in at least a majority of contents, because I seem to be the ultimate example of the thing people are fighting over. Instead, I urge everybody to vote for Mono, because Hymn is the best album of the decade.
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« Reply #95 on: 07 Sep 2009, 02:20 »

Hey, long time lurker here.

Just thought I'd metion this program for using Lala and other US-locked sites from outside the US.

I have a lot of listening to do, but i might vote in the later rounds  :wink:
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« Reply #96 on: 07 Sep 2009, 05:08 »

Bracket 1
Kid A
Takk...
The Fall of Math
Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots
Franz Ferdinand
The Lemon of Pink
Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga
The Argument

Bracket 8
Of Course
Fever to Tell
Travels With Myself and Another
You're a Woman, I'm a Machine
How Strange, Innocence
Mirrored
The Mantle
Transatlanicism

Bracket 5
Sound of Silver
In Absentia
Love and Theft
Alive 2007
You are Free
The Earth is not a Cold, Dead Place
Veckatimest
You Forgot It in People

Bracket 4
Lose All Time
Return to Cookie Mountain
Silent Alarm
Crack the Skye
Gorillaz
Turn On the Bright Lights
Hercules and Love Affair
Hissing Fauna, Are You the Destroyer?

Bracket 6
Discovery
Cutouts and Castaways
Black Sheep Boy
The Sunset Tree
Strawberry Jam
Mothers, Sisters, Daughters and Wives
Since I Left You
Feed the Animals

Bracket 3
Lift yr Skinny Fists like Antennas to Heaven
The Blueprint
Set Yourself on Fire
Spirit They're Gone, Spirit They've Vanished
Broken Social Scene
We Are the Romans
Demon Days
They Threw Us All in a Trench and Stuck A Monument on Top

Bracket 7
Merriweather Post Pavillion
From a Basement on the Hill
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
The Glow, Part 2
I Am Not Afraid of You and I Will Beat Your Ass
Is This It?
Night Versions
Rainbow

Bracket 2
Funeral
Come On Feel the Illinoise!
Third
In Rainbows
Neon Bible
Myths, Legends and Other Amazing Adventures!
Dear Science
Owls
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« Reply #97 on: 07 Sep 2009, 13:50 »

It's getting late here so I'm doing this tomorrow if  have the time.

And also... I can't fucking believe I was the only one who voted for Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
I can understand it since it's a doom metal album, but there where some folks here who know some good (doom) metal stuff so that's why I'm deeply disappointed, that album imho is the best thing this decade. There's no way anything from 2009 or 2010 will be better.
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« Reply #98 on: 07 Sep 2009, 14:18 »

remember kids, voting ends today at GMT -6
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« Reply #99 on: 07 Sep 2009, 14:19 »

By which you mean midnight in that time zone?
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