Topic: WCT: September 27-October 2, 2009 (Read 61420 times)

tinkerbell · « **Reply #50 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 01:37 »

Quote from: innermoppet on 28 Sep 2009, 21:25

Quote from: tinkerbell on 28 Sep 2009, 18:06
Quote from: Moxie on 28 Sep 2009, 10:43
Quote from: Kartoon Kween on 28 Sep 2009, 06:54
Anyway, Angus is STILL a liar.
Someone else said this too, in this thread, I think. Why is Angus a liar? I don't understand.
I think mainly because of what Angus does: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1384
Would you trust a guy whose profession is basically pretending to be incompetent?
Sort of like an actor who plays a bumbling person in order to tell a story? Or a politician who plays up the folksy down home charm (oh yeah, you betcha Joe Sixpack)? I guess what I'm getting at is that lying is a pretty much a given in most fields.

Oh definitely lying is a given in most professions, I think people are overthinking it because they cannot hear the words being said, they can only read them. Makes you wonder whether some of the lies spill over into his personal life and how he might feel about that.

evilbobthebob · « **Reply #51 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 01:55 »

I laughed so much at the last panel

As for Angus 'lying'...so what? I don't see anything hurtful being said.

tinkerbell · « **Reply #52 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 02:25 »

Quote from: evilbobthebob on 29 Sep 2009, 01:55

As for Angus 'lying'...so what? I don't see anything hurtful being said.

Certainly right now it seems quite harmless and I think it is great. But things can get very distorted by those with low self esteem, and somehow I do not think Angus would want Marigold to interpret his compliments as him being interested in her or for her to become a big slutbag.

Delirium · « **Reply #53 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 02:28 »

LOL internet disease

raoullefere · « **Reply #54 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 02:43 »

Angus comes through! Cheers to him for that, and for not calling it "Fat-girl angle shot."

On the flip side, I don't know how to take Marigold's becoming a WoWslut. I suppose it's to be expected. One can't detest another that much without secretly wanting to be them, and, as has been remarked, she lacks the self-awareness to see that.

Oh, and I think that as long as Marigold keeps referring to Angus as a jerk, she's probably not going to 'fall' for him, for the same reason as stated above. To her, I imagine a jerk is a jerk.

scarred · « **Reply #55 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 03:05 »

It could be one of those friendly "You jerk!" things, too. Like "Oh man remember that time we got really wasted and locked you in the closet" "Man you guys are jerks" "<3333333"

etc

LTK · « **Reply #56 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 03:35 »

Marigold, you disappoint me.

matachin · « **Reply #57 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 04:45 »

We should go a bit easy on Marigold. She's discovered the "slutty babes" horrible secret, and if she experiments a bit, so what? Now if she posts those pictures it's a different story.

Just keep her away from Sven. His willpower would probably cave and we'd get a Faye/Marigold catfight...ah shit.

If there's one thing I've learned already, it's that if you randomly pick any two characters some pathetic shmuck is going to have a sexual fantasy about them.

tinkerbell · « **Reply #58 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 05:22 »

Quote from: matachin on 29 Sep 2009, 04:45

If there's one thing I've learned already, it's that if you randomly pick any two characters some pathetic shmuck is going to have a sexual fantasy about them.

Now that would be some serious aerodynamically curvaceous fighting/loving.

matachin · « **Reply #59 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 05:47 »

Quote from: tinkerbell on 29 Sep 2009, 05:22

Quote from: matachin on 29 Sep 2009, 04:45
If there's one thing I've learned already, it's that if you randomly pick any two characters some pathetic shmuck is going to have a sexual fantasy about them.

Now that would be some serious aerodynamically curvaceous fighting/loving.

My point, proven.

akronnick · « **Reply #60 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 05:48 »

Quote from: matachin on 29 Sep 2009, 04:45

Just keep her away from Sven. His willpower would probably cave and we'd get a Faye/Marigold catfight...ah shit.

I think if that happens, Sven will have more to worry about than Marigold, in that if he treated her like he treated Faye, he'd have Dora, Faye, and (OMG) HANNERS to deal with (probably Marten and Angus too).

tinkerbell · « **Reply #61 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 06:02 »

Quote from: matachin on 29 Sep 2009, 05:47

Quote from: tinkerbell on 29 Sep 2009, 05:22
Quote from: matachin on 29 Sep 2009, 04:45
If there's one thing I've learned already, it's that if you randomly pick any two characters some pathetic shmuck is going to have a sexual fantasy about them.

Now that would be some serious aerodynamically curvaceous fighting/loving.

My point, proven.

Pathetic schmuck? I... I think I am going to cry...

Damn, should not care so much.

raoullefere · « **Reply #62 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 06:07 »

Quote from: matachin on 29 Sep 2009, 04:45

We should go a bit easy on Marigold. She's discovered the "slutty babes" horrible secret, and if she experiments a bit, so what? Now if she posts those pictures it's a different story.

Oh, come on. You know she's going to, unless she chickens out. I'll admit, though, that's a distinct possibility. I'll add that, unlikely as Sven and Marigold getting together is, Sven would be in far more danger from Faye than Marigold.

xxxHan-Ahxxx · « **Reply #63 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 06:39 »

aww angus called marigold pretty ^__^ well she is(just take out the pimples). it would be nice if those two got together. i feel sorry for sven =( i really liked how faye and him we're together. guess they just need some time apart. but i do hope things work out.

innermoppet · « **Reply #64 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 06:50 »

It's not the end of the world if Marigold wants to pose for photos from deceptive angles. Maybe she'll start to actually see herself as attractive. At least she's thinking about it. It's a sign of major depression when you don't want to bath or pay attention to her appearance. I know it seems like something negative but it could actually signal a sort of emotional growth spurt for Marigold.

[/Pollyanna-esque Optimism]

If you've ever watched America's Top Model, you'll realize that posing to hide flaws is not unusual. Models work what they've got and photogs choose the best angles to capture that. What they can't fake, they airbrush out. Even out in public most celeb females have a specific pose and walk that enhances their beauty for photographs. Love her or hate her, but Paris Hilton knows how to work the best side of her face and how to make her body look five pounds leaner by standing a certain way. It's so hypocritical to bag on women (and it seems to generally be fat/chunky women) for attempting to work around something that they are constantly told is shameful and ugly. The real fear stems from from guys who are terrified they'd be attracted to a fatty. Oh noes!

Carl-E · « **Reply #65 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 07:38 »

I thought it was funny that she's socially inexperienced enough not to have turned off the shutter sound on the digicam before taking the pics. Of course, Angus still would've known what she was doing...

If there's one thing I taught my girls, it's how to deceive effectively.

I still catch them in their lies, that's a personality issue! But they're better at not leaving so much damn evidence lying around!

When she say's "you're a jerk", I hear my oldest saying (in her whiniest tones for comedic effect) "Daaad, shut Uuup"!

Is it cold in here? · « **Reply #66 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 08:03 »

It is noteworthy that we can tell so much about the characters from so little input.

A few lines of ink and some coloring, and we know what they look like. A few panels of dialog, and we know something about their personalities.

Stepping back and thinking about it, it's amazing how much an artist can accomplish with so little. Web comics may qualify as a minimalist art form.

Changing the subject, am I weird, or was today's comic funny from the beginning? Something about a guy critiquing sleazy photos to a girl tickled me.

Wiregeek · « **Reply #67 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 09:30 »

here's hoping we get to see the pix.

Go, Marigold! Stupidity leads to experience!

Zipperstuck · « **Reply #68 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 09:36 »

Quote from: Kartoon Kween on 28 Sep 2009, 06:54

Anyway, Angus is STILL a liar. Now, if Marigold had more pride in her "intelligence," she'd have no need for low self-esteem. Beauty is SO overrated, and it's not the only thing in the world that can make a person attractive

Wild guess here, but did you ever get picked on for being ugly? during highschool perhaps?

matachin · « **Reply #69 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 10:49 »

Quote from: tinkerbell on 29 Sep 2009, 06:02

Quote from: matachin on 29 Sep 2009, 05:47
Quote from: tinkerbell on 29 Sep 2009, 05:22
Quote from: matachin on 29 Sep 2009, 04:45
If there's one thing I've learned already, it's that if you randomly pick any two characters some pathetic shmuck is going to have a sexual fantasy about them.

Now that would be some serious aerodynamically curvaceous fighting/loving.

My point, proven.

Pathetic schmuck? I... I think I am going to cry...
Damn, should not care so much.

Damn, I shouldn't be so harsh...especially not while running off to work. Fetish is one thing, 50 page fanfics are another. Consider it a bit of proof via statistical sampling.

I actually envision it a bit like the long fight scene in They Live. Afterwards they team up & run out of bubblegum.

As for stupidity/experience, I've always heard it as "Experience is what you have after you've done something stupid, and what you wish you had before."

What if Momo is the digicam? That side of the conversation could be interesting..."Fried computer and now I have to see this!?!? MySpace/Facebook angle _and_ bad lighting!?!?" I cringe everytime I see that style of picture. It's like the cheap horror section of erotica.

jonarus_drakus · « **Reply #70 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 13:23 »

I just hope we get to see the end result! Admit it people, you all want to! Dirty perverts, all of you! Just like me...

Seriouslt though, this is definite step 'outside the box' for Marigold, and i genuinely hope it doesn't back-fire on her.

Binary · « **Reply #71 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 13:40 »

So, purely in the interests of SCIENCE, I tried typing "WoW sluts" into Google (SafeSearch off, of course), and got... pretty much nothing that was actually WoW-related. Not even Night Elf porn.

Although I did stumble onto "The World of Whorecraft".

Also there is a blog by a player using the name Wow Slut (oops, hope I haven't just slashdotted* her!).

* Hey, Oglaf is back up! Luckily I heard about Oglaf from Rene Engström's Twitter feed and managed to read the whole archive just before the rest of QC nuked it.

IlGreven · « **Reply #72 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 14:39 »

Quote from: Binary on 29 Sep 2009, 13:40

So, purely in the interests of SCIENCE, I tried typing "WoW sluts" into Google (SafeSearch off, of course), and got... pretty much nothing that was actually WoW-related. Not even Night Elf porn.

Although I did stumble onto "The World of Whorecraft". Also there is a blog by a player using the name Wow Slut (oops, hope I haven't just slashdotted* her!).

Probably because google sees no difference between "WoW Sluts" and "WOW! SLUTS!"

Binary · « **Reply #73 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 15:32 »

Quote from: IlGreven on 29 Sep 2009, 14:39

Probably because google sees no difference between "WoW Sluts" and "WOW! SLUTS!"

I actually had almost exactly that sentence in my original post before I previewed it and pruned it a little!

And yet, "WoW sluts" only brings up 225 image hits in Google, with one or two at best being tenuously relevant. I don't think Google is anywhere as close to achieving the "semantic web" as they would like. Why the hell would searching for "WoW sluts" return images labelled "Flintstone sex" and "Britney Spears Nipple" (which I assume is about the troubled chanteuse, not a bizarre javelin accident).

Tuitsuro · « **Reply #74 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 15:51 »

Quote from: IlGreven on 29 Sep 2009, 14:39

Probably because google sees no difference between "WoW Sluts" and "WOW! SLUTS!"

Great, now it's recursive.

Carl-E · « **Reply #75 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 16:05 »

Quick! Step back before the intertubes implpodes!!!

I always wanted to say that!

Kartoon Kween · « **Reply #76 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 16:41 »

Quote from: Zipperstuck on 29 Sep 2009, 09:36

Quote from: Kartoon Kween on 28 Sep 2009, 06:54
Anyway, Angus is STILL a liar. Now, if Marigold had more pride in her "intelligence," she'd have no need for low self-esteem. Beauty is SO overrated, and it's not the only thing in the world that can make a person attractive
Wild guess here, but did you ever get picked on for being ugly? during highschool perhaps?

Never. Actually, I was often praised for my beauty.

I've never cared for being complimented on my looks. I have no control over them, after all... I was just lucky. I can say with with no uncertainty that I'd rather be really smart or really talented instead. People like Marigold are the TRUE lucky ones... if only they'd realize it!

If Marigold had more confidence in herself, she could attract a truly worthy mate.

PHeller · « **Reply #77 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 17:07 »

can't wait to see the Marigold self shots. I have a feeling not only will they be amazing, but they'll throw a new twist into the story and maybe bring back some old characters? (hint hint)

Tuitsuro · « **Reply #78 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 18:20 »

Quote from: PHeller on 29 Sep 2009, 17:07

can't wait to see the Marigold self shots.

She started uploading them an hour ago. You can barely tell it's photoshopped!

wargrafix · « **Reply #79 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 18:22 »

wuith those pics marigold becomes the new internet phenom...like the star wars kid...except with tits.

Near Lurker · « **Reply #80 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 21:07 »

At least it wasn't *ruffle ruffle* *kchk kchk kchk*.

QuarterFire · « **Reply #81 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 21:44 »

Quote from: Kartoon Kween on 29 Sep 2009, 16:41

Quote from: Zipperstuck on 29 Sep 2009, 09:36
Wild guess here, but did you ever get picked on for being ugly? during highschool perhaps?
Never-

Then shut up.

raoullefere · « **Reply #82 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 21:53 »

Quote from: innermoppet on 29 Sep 2009, 06:50

It's not the end of the world if Marigold wants to pose for photos from deceptive angles. Maybe she'll start to actually see herself as attractive. At least she's thinking about it. It's a sign of major depression when you don't want to bath or pay attention to her appearance. I know it seems like something negative but it could actually signal a sort of emotional growth spurt for Marigold.

[/Pollyanna-esque Optimism]

If you've ever watched America's Top Model, you'll realize that posing to hide flaws is not unusual. Models work what they've got and photogs choose the best angles to capture that. What they can't fake, they airbrush out. Even out in public most celeb females have a specific pose and walk that enhances their beauty for photographs. Love her or hate her, but Paris Hilton knows how to work the best side of her face and how to make her body look five pounds leaner by standing a certain way. It's so hypocritical to bag on women (and it seems to generally be fat/chunky women) for attempting to work around something that they are constantly told is shameful and ugly. The real fear stems from from guys who are terrified they'd be attracted to a fatty. Oh noes!

I see nothing wrong with Marigold taking the pictures, photoshopping them, printing them, taking them to bed, and giving them soft, moist kisses (although that last might be hard on the pix unless she frames 'em first) if she likes. But after disparaging the other girls for posting such photos, I do find it a bit—something— if Marigold immediately posts her own fabricated pics. Kind of like condemning whoremongers right until the point you find your own whores to, ah, monger.

Quote from: IlGreven on 29 Sep 2009, 14:39

Probably because google sees no difference between "WoW Sluts" and "WOW! SLUTS!"

Is there one? Is there really?

bicostp · « **Reply #83 on:** 29 Sep 2009, 21:55 »

Let's see how long it takes until one of those shots winds up as her Twitter picture.

Seems like most of her insecurities can be solved by simply taking care of herself. Regular showering along with diet and exercise would help a lot. :\ Didn't one strip ages ago talk about how Raven was a lot heavier in college, but started feeling better about herself (and started getting more attention) after she worked at losing weight? Sounds like these two need to meet.

Mr_Rose · « **Reply #84 on:** 30 Sep 2009, 01:10 »

Quote from: raoullefere on 29 Sep 2009, 21:53

Quote from: innermoppet on 29 Sep 2009, 06:50
It's not the end of the world if Marigold wants to pose for photos from deceptive angles. Maybe she'll start to actually see herself as attractive. At least she's thinking about it. It's a sign of major depression when you don't want to bath or pay attention to her appearance. I know it seems like something negative but it could actually signal a sort of emotional growth spurt for Marigold.

[/Pollyanna-esque Optimism]

If you've ever watched America's Top Model, you'll realize that posing to hide flaws is not unusual. Models work what they've got and photogs choose the best angles to capture that. What they can't fake, they airbrush out. Even out in public most celeb females have a specific pose and walk that enhances their beauty for photographs. Love her or hate her, but Paris Hilton knows how to work the best side of her face and how to make her body look five pounds leaner by standing a certain way. It's so hypocritical to bag on women (and it seems to generally be fat/chunky women) for attempting to work around something that they are constantly told is shameful and ugly. The real fear stems from from guys who are terrified they'd be attracted to a fatty. Oh noes!

I see nothing wrong with Marigold taking the pictures, photoshopping them, printing them, taking them to bed, and giving them soft, moist kisses (although that last might be hard on the pix unless she frames 'em first) if she likes. But after disparaging the other girls for posting such photos, I do find it a bit—something— if Marigold immediately posts her own fabricated pics. Kind of like condemning whoremongers right until the point you find your own whores to, ah, monger.

As I recall, Jeph has made a point of showing us that Marigold is not nearly as self-aware as most of the rest of the cast. She wouldn't notice the hypocrisy unless it was pointed out and, even then, probably wouldn't change her behaviour much because it doesn't count if it's her...

jonarus_drakus · « **Reply #85 on:** 30 Sep 2009, 01:41 »

OMG!!! Hannelore looks like an actual human being instead of an anime character!

She has an at least vaguely realistic nose! MY MIND! EXPLODED IT IS!

This is awsome artwork!

Exar_Kun · « **Reply #86 on:** 30 Sep 2009, 02:15 »

I would like to point out how awesome Hannelore now looks. Seriously, the difference is amazing. Awesomely good job Jeph.

MrMonk · « **Reply #87 on:** 30 Sep 2009, 05:07 »

Quote from: jonarus_drakus on 30 Sep 2009, 01:41

She has an at least vaguely realistic nose!

Realistic? How do people breathe through such tiny little things?

As much as I like the new Hannelore, I don't find the nose realistic.
The head to body proportion is also good, except for her second panel. I think cartoon characters "read" better if their heads are a little larger than "real world" proportions relative to the body.

Binary · « **Reply #88 on:** 30 Sep 2009, 05:48 »

No. Not "Cronenbergian".

There's not nearly enough slime, bodily fluid or general ooziness for it to be "Cronenbergian"!

Carl-E · « **Reply #89 on:** 30 Sep 2009, 06:24 »

Quote from: Near Lurker on 29 Sep 2009, 21:07

At least it wasn't *ruffle ruffle* *kchk kchk kchk*.

OK, I'm dense. What's the sound of ruffling? Taking off the clothes? Never mind, answered my own question...

And doesn't anyone (else) out there sympathize with Pintsize? He thought his thumbs were awe-inspiring, at the very least. Nobody's even interested. And the one person he could count on wierding out assumed they were technical difficulties!

I thought he was just oozing defeat. I see an uninstall in his near future...

After all, what good is being all thumbs if no one reacts?

Kartoon Kween · « **Reply #90 on:** 30 Sep 2009, 07:51 »

Quote from: QuarterFire on 29 Sep 2009, 21:44

Quote from: Kartoon Kween on 29 Sep 2009, 16:41
Quote from: Zipperstuck on 29 Sep 2009, 09:36
Wild guess here, but did you ever get picked on for being ugly? during highschool perhaps?
Never-

Then shut up.

How rude! I fail to see how my high school experiences disqualify me from offering my opinions on fictional web comic characters.

Anyway, for some reason, I'm really loving Pintsize in the forth panel. The way he's standing on those thumb-feet.... it's just so cute!

Lyrical · « **Reply #91 on:** 30 Sep 2009, 08:18 »

Carl-E, I got that impression from him, too, although I dislike Pintsize, so I felt mild schadenfreude about it. Perhaps he can take up gardening. After all, instead of just having a green thumb, he has four of them!

Bicostp, there are lots of women who are gorgeous and have great hygiene, but who are still unconfident in their own skin. They want to lose 5 pounds, get a nose job, get a boob job, if their hair is curly, they want it to be straight and vice versa, etc. Looking attractive, and having people respond to that, helps, but a lot of it is the way *they* perceive themselves. Self-esteem involves more than just looks, and I'm mostly happy with myself in that area, but it helps to have at least one person who makes you feel luscious!

I have some similarities to Marigold, but without the hygiene and messy room issues. I used to be a gamer chick on a MUDD and other things (I've been resisting WOW). We have similar facial structure, colouring, and hair length/general cut. I used to do some modelling, and several friends who are amateur photographers have taken photos of me for their classes or portfolios. The people who are saying she could clean up nicely are right. Normally, I think of myself as cute, rather than pretty/gorgeous, but most photographers (even the DMV) can make me look elegant and exotic! A little makeup, carrying yourself the right way, stuff like that makes a huge difference.

bicostp · « **Reply #92 on:** 30 Sep 2009, 15:27 »

@Lyrical: I didn't mean to sound like "oh well just do this and this and your problems are over you fat smelly lazyass". I meant that if she feels bad about those factors, but tried to do something about them, she might feel better about herself. I know it worked for me: after high school I gained weight because I was still eating like a teenager (too much, all the time), basically did nothing but sit at the computer all day (no regular gym class to burn off all those fries), and I felt like crap about it. I watched what I ate and started exercising more, lost close to 30 pounds, got back to where I was, and I'm glad I did it.

(Woo relatable character writing woo)

Is it cold in here? · « **Reply #93 on:** 30 Sep 2009, 15:40 »

Quote from: bicostp on 29 Sep 2009, 21:55

Didn't one strip ages ago talk about how Raven was a lot heavier in college, but started feeling better about herself (and started getting more attention) after she worked at losing weight? Sounds like these two need to meet.

Yes, strip 562.

Come to think of it, Raven's a gamer (can't find the strip offhand, but she had a D&D partner come into the shop once). Raven also has pimples (#703).

Marigold might have a reflexive negative reaction to Raven but if she got over that they would find things in common. I like the idea of them meeting.

hydrothermia · « **Reply #94 on:** 30 Sep 2009, 16:08 »

Fixed the fourth panel for you:

Carl-E · « **Reply #95 on:** 30 Sep 2009, 17:42 »

Brrrrilllianttt!!

The Duke · « **Reply #96 on:** 30 Sep 2009, 17:50 »

Quote from: Tuitsuro on 29 Sep 2009, 18:20

Quote from: PHeller on 29 Sep 2009, 17:07
can't wait to see the Marigold self shots.

She started uploading them an hour ago. You can barely tell it's photoshopped!

I don't think they are; I can't tell the difference!

raoullefere · « **Reply #97 on:** 30 Sep 2009, 20:20 »

You will when she bursts into song and charges you a couple hundred per hour for the privilege of listening to it.

jonarus_drakus · « **Reply #98 on:** 30 Sep 2009, 20:49 »

Comparing Marigold to Strisand!? FOR SHAME! People LIKE Marigold!

ironi · « **Reply #99 on:** 30 Sep 2009, 21:57 »

Just popping in to be a dick and point out that Jeph misused "Nonplussed" in the title. I think he was using it to mean "unimpressed" whereas it really means:

non·plus (nn-pls)
tr.v.
To put at a loss as to what to think, say, or do; bewilder.
n.
A state of perplexity, confusion, or bewilderment.
From Dictionary.com

...which is kind of the opposite response that Faye and co. gave Pintsize.
Unless he was using the word in reference to the common misperception of its meaning...but somehow I don't think so.

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