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WE HATE SPORTS
« on: 29 Sep 2009, 22:27 »

GRRR.

Rather than derailing yet another sports thread I just thought I'd make my own thread about how much I dislike professional sports.

Who else thinks that the amount of time, effort and money our society invests in some half-retarded shitheads in shorts manipulating spherical objects is sickening. Who thinks that the idea that a man who kicks a fucking ball on television can get paid as much as a brain surgeon makes in a year every month or even week to be just the most awful thing. 

For bonus loony-left points, who thinks that sport is, for the ruling class, a combination of bread and circuses and the opiate of the masses. Don't worry about the fact that you were born into grinding poverty lad! There's a one in a million chance you could be a footballer! Of course, only if you practice hard and forget all that boring politics and history. Oh? That ridiculous dream never materialised? Don't worry, you can still care more about your football team than you do about who your local MP is. That is a-ok.


GRRRR.
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Re: WE HATE SPORTS
« Reply #1 on: 29 Sep 2009, 22:44 »

I honestly couldn't name the mayor of my city.

I can name the entire probable 25-man playoff roster for the Red Sox, though.
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« Reply #2 on: 29 Sep 2009, 22:51 »

GRRR.

Well, when you put it that way, yeah. Most of the time I don't really give a shit.
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« Reply #3 on: 29 Sep 2009, 22:53 »

Man the only sport I find interesting is soccer(or football, depending on where you live) I would rather play then watch though.
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« Reply #4 on: 29 Sep 2009, 22:57 »

How about them Knicks?
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« Reply #5 on: 29 Sep 2009, 22:58 »

Well, uh... to be honest, I'm not sure how the Knicks are doing.
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« Reply #6 on: 29 Sep 2009, 22:59 »

I don't watch baseball, you see.
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Re: WE HATE SPORTS
« Reply #7 on: 29 Sep 2009, 23:01 »

Sports suck. All Sports suck. Its all the same thing. Get Over it everyone.
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« Reply #8 on: 29 Sep 2009, 23:05 »

Just professional a-typical sports we hate correct?

For example: Ultimate and Disk Golf don't count right? Because I'd be sad if they do.

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« Reply #9 on: 29 Sep 2009, 23:19 »

Professional sport is no more ridiculous than professional artists, musicians, actors, or directors - all these people get grossly overpaid for entertainment.
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« Reply #10 on: 29 Sep 2009, 23:23 »

I don't like sport but no need to get up in everyone's face about it. Just look sheepish when people start talking about sport and you're all good.
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« Reply #11 on: 29 Sep 2009, 23:28 »

Professional sport is no more ridiculous than professional artists, musicians, actors, or directors - all these people get grossly overpaid for entertainment.

Depends on whether you think we are still inherently violent animals at our core or not, really. If we are, then sports could be considered culturally cathartic for all the instincts and urges we repress. If not you could argue elevating our sportsmen to high social status encourages violent thuggish behaviour we should have gotten over as a species by now.

Who thinks that the idea that a man who kicks a fucking ball on television can get paid as much as a brain surgeon makes in a year every month or even week to be just the most awful thing.  

Also Brain Surgeons get paid a lot more than teachers and to be honest I think teachers are way more important. So there are a lot of discrepancies out there in pay. Doesn't mean brain surgery isn't worthwhile.
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« Reply #12 on: 29 Sep 2009, 23:31 »

Sportspeople can make hundreds of thousands of people happy all at once. Brain surgeons really only make people happy a few at a time.

It's all relative, I guess?
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« Reply #13 on: 29 Sep 2009, 23:33 »

on the flipside a sportsperson that makes a hundred thousand people happy at once is presumably making roughly the same amount very unhappy at the same time so the overall benefit to humanity is nil.
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« Reply #14 on: 29 Sep 2009, 23:35 »

What if a brain surgeon is operating on an asshole. Keep in mind that most people are assholes.
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« Reply #15 on: 29 Sep 2009, 23:37 »

I've never had a Brain Surgeon try to pick a fight with me for not giving him a cigarette is what I'm saying goddamnit
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« Reply #16 on: 29 Sep 2009, 23:39 »

Brett I'm not sure how this relates to sports and if you'd like to discuss your crippling social inadequacies we already have like a zillion threads for that
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« Reply #17 on: 29 Sep 2009, 23:39 »

So basically, sports = good.

Brain surgery = bad.
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« Reply #18 on: 29 Sep 2009, 23:41 »

If we are to believe Capitalism (and really why shouldn't we?), then YES!
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« Reply #19 on: 29 Sep 2009, 23:44 »

Brett I'm not sure how this relates to sports and if you'd like to discuss your crippling social inadequacies we already have like a zillion threads for that

Look my experience calling a professional AFL player an ugly piece of shit is one of the few glorious moments in my failure of a life, just let me brag about it somewhere

If we are to believe Capitalism (and really why shouldn't we?), then YES!

Let's let the FREE MARKET decide whether we should trust capitalism or not, mmk?
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« Reply #20 on: 29 Sep 2009, 23:46 »

Let's let the FREE MARKET decide whether we let the free market decide whether we trust capitalism.
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« Reply #21 on: 29 Sep 2009, 23:48 »

dude that's tautologous as HECK
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« Reply #22 on: 29 Sep 2009, 23:49 »

man us people who hate Sports are so smart we must be if we can use words like "tautologous"
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« Reply #23 on: 29 Sep 2009, 23:51 »

I like sports. I'm just here so I can be popular.
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« Reply #24 on: 29 Sep 2009, 23:52 »

Professional sport is no more ridiculous than professional artists, musicians, actors, or directors - all these people get grossly overpaid usually has to eat noodles all their lives for entertainment.

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« Reply #25 on: 29 Sep 2009, 23:55 »

Professional sport is no more ridiculous than professional artists, musicians, actors, or directors - all these people get grossly overpaid usually have to eat noodles all their lives for entertainment.

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« Reply #26 on: 29 Sep 2009, 23:58 »

my brother is a huge hockey nerd, and regularly irritates the fuck out of me talking about all the boring shit he knows.  It's even worse when I'm around relatives and they join in the discussion, and I can't politely leave for a few hours

so yeah, fuck sports

oh also, my dad's idea of bonding with his sons is to take us to a hockey game.  Not fun.
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« Reply #27 on: 29 Sep 2009, 23:59 »

You're all just upset you always got picked last for sports at school.
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« Reply #28 on: 30 Sep 2009, 00:00 »

Professional sport is no more ridiculous than professional artists, musicians, actors, or directors - all these people get grossly overpaid usually has to eat noodles all their lives for entertainment.

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I think you maybe have a slight misunderstanding of what is meant by the term "professional musician/actor/director"
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« Reply #29 on: 30 Sep 2009, 00:03 »

to be fair, it's not like all sports players get grossly  overpaid either.

(well unless if you take the view that paying someone to play sports at all is already overpaying them)
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« Reply #30 on: 30 Sep 2009, 00:04 »

Most women sports don't, for example.
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« Reply #31 on: 30 Sep 2009, 00:05 »

I loved and love playing sports...

However, I never got into watching them.  For some reason it's really boring to me.  :|
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« Reply #32 on: 30 Sep 2009, 00:30 »

Brain surgeons get paid an awful lot on average, whereas minor league baseball players make $1,100 a month maximum on their first contract season. You get $20 a day in meal money though.
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« Reply #33 on: 30 Sep 2009, 01:45 »

I love sports but I agree that professional athletes are ridiculously overpaid.
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« Reply #34 on: 30 Sep 2009, 02:03 »

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But if one wins a victory by swiftness of foot, or in the pentathlon, where the grove of Zeus lies by Pisas' stream at Olympia, or as a wrestler, or in painful boxing or in that severe contest called the pancration, he would be more glorious in the eyes of the citizens, he would win a front seat at assemblies, and would be entertained by the city at the public table, and he would receive a gift which would be a keepsake for him. If he won by means of horses he would get all these things although he did not deserve them, as I deserve them, for our wisdom is better than the strength of men or of horses. This is indeed a very wrong custom, nor is it right to prefer strength to excellent wisdom. For if there should be in the city a man good at boxing, or in the pentathlon, or in wrestling, or in swiftness of foot, which is honoured more than strength (among the contests men enter into at the games), the city would not on that account be any better governed. Small joy would it be to any city in this case if a citizen conquers at the games on the banks of the Pisas, for this does not fill with wealth its secret chambers.

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« Reply #35 on: 30 Sep 2009, 04:34 »

Playing sports is fun, spectating them can lead to strange vicarious delusions where you believe that you're part of the team, having fun, or are fit and healthy enough to play sports. Talking about them seems to be just a more in-depth phatic that serves as a flimsy replacement for actual conversation.
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« Reply #36 on: 30 Sep 2009, 04:42 »

Talking about sport is a bit like talking about the weather. People do it when nothing else presents itself for conversation. Personally, I enjoy watching some sports, but I've always failed miserably at actual participation. I don't tend to know enough about any to hold a conversation about sport though, and that is often a good thing.
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« Reply #37 on: 30 Sep 2009, 05:13 »

Watching sports can be tremendous fun. There's a sense of community, elation and entertainment. There's really no difference between watching sport and watching a film or television program.

In fact in a way a sports match could be considered more engaging than a film because while a film evokes a whole range of emotions in you, it's often hard to tell if it affects anyone else in the cinema the same way but at a sports match not only do you know what the emotions of the people around you are, you're sharing in one giant emotion that results from events on the pitch, which is incredibly life affirming on a completely different level than watching a movie or even listening to an album.

I am legitimately conflicted as to whether I think professional sports is worthwhile or a complete crock of shit to be honest.
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« Reply #38 on: 30 Sep 2009, 05:57 »

Don't worry, you can still care more about your football team than you do about who your local MP is. That is a-ok.

The fortunes of Leeds United are significantly more important to what happens in this city than Greg Mulholland, so that's actually a very sensible choice. They are also currently doing a far superior job, although it's a shame we couldn't beat Carlisle at home.
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« Reply #39 on: 30 Sep 2009, 06:13 »

Yeah, to be ten games in with no losses is pretty fantastic any way you look at it.
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« Reply #40 on: 30 Sep 2009, 06:16 »

Depends on whether you think we are still inherently violent animals at our core or not, really. If we are, then sports could be considered culturally cathartic for all the instincts and urges we repress. If not you could argue elevating our sportsmen to high social status encourages violent thuggish behaviour we should have gotten over as a species by now.

I'm a fan of sport, but even if it is cathartic (and if it is, you'd have to argue that you'd be better off playing it than watching it) the amount of money some sportspeople make is ludicrous. There are people make millions of dollars a week for what ultimately amounts to an hour or so of entertainment that they provide us - I don't want to be the person that constantly brings up all those starving children, but seriously, if you made golf, football, baseball and basketball all strictly amateur or cut down their wages to an amount that would give them enough money to live comfortably (ie. the kind of wage people working actual jobs get) you could buy half of Africa with what you save, and finance the re/building of a sustainable, stable economy with what you've got left*.

I'm a big fan of the strictly amateur leagues they have in Ireland - the players still get to star, they are still idolized, but they aren't being given more money than they know what to do with.
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« Reply #41 on: 30 Sep 2009, 06:23 »

I swam back in high school and college.  (8th place in SUNYACs!).

However I really never watched anyone swim competitively except for the Olympics.

I don't watch professional sports and I never understood why anyone does.  My dad dragged me to high school basketball games when I was young and I think my dislike of spectator sports started there.

Or I am just a misanthrope at heart.
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« Reply #42 on: 30 Sep 2009, 06:49 »

Who else thinks that the amount of time, effort and money our society invests in some half-retarded shitheads in shorts manipulating spherical objects is sickening. Who thinks that the idea that a man who kicks a fucking ball on television can get paid as much as a brain surgeon makes in a year every month or even week to be just the most awful thing.  

For bonus loony-left points, who thinks that sport is, for the ruling class, a combination of bread and circuses and the opiate of the masses. Don't worry about the fact that you were born into grinding poverty lad! There's a one in a million chance you could be a footballer! Of course, only if you practice hard and forget all that boring politics and history. Oh? That ridiculous dream never materialised? Don't worry, you can still care more about your football team than you do about who your local MP is. That is a-ok.

All of this stuff I agree with, and I used to be really anti-sports too, but at one point someone pointed out/explained to me the positive political implications of sports, how sports are a socially galvanizing force.  For example, sporting teams provide a common ground that holds together communities of individuals who otherwise have no common ground whatsoever.  (Years later I learned there's actually a book written around this thesis, I forget the title unfortunately.)

Of course this community building in a local area tends to come at the cost of intensifying rivalries between communities, plus the other negatives you pointed out remain true.  However, reflecting on some positive points did change me from being overtly anti-sports to simply not caring about them one way or the other.
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« Reply #43 on: 30 Sep 2009, 06:50 »

I despise sports but to be fair, folks who play American Football (obviously this includes Boxing and other contact sports) professionally have a shit load of medical problems in the long term. Dozens of concussions, broken bones, nerve damage and torn ligaments means a rather short shelf life for the sport and practically being forced into total retirement afterwards unless they were huge names and can get ad or licensing deals.

Basically you're paying them ridiculous amounts of money to have an early death due to brain damage.
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« Reply #44 on: 30 Sep 2009, 06:55 »

What if a brain surgeon is operating on an asshole. Keep in mind that most people are assholes.

I've never thought of it that way.  I like how you think.

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« Reply #45 on: 30 Sep 2009, 07:06 »

I wish I could say the failure of XFL had to do with people realizing how mind-bogglingly stupid it was, but really it just comes down to people were already dedicated to watching NFL thank you very much.

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« Reply #46 on: 30 Sep 2009, 07:10 »

For bonus loony-left points, who thinks that sport is, for the ruling class, a combination of bread and circuses and the opiate of the masses.

Wait, I believe that last bit, even as a sports fan. That's why I like sport. It lets me get away from my real life and sit back for a few hours, yell at my TV, and feel happy when my team scores.
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Wait so you're letting something that happened 10 years ago ruin your quality of life? What are you, America? :psyduck:

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Re: WE HATE SPORTS
« Reply #48 on: 30 Sep 2009, 07:30 »

spectating them can lead to strange vicarious delusions where you believe that you're part of the team

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Actually this is a common error. Spectators are the team. Everybody else involved with the team is transitory. Football teams regularly change hands, managers, coaching staff, players and sponsors. The fans are always the fans. Everybody at the club works for the fans. The players of Leeds United are playing for my team and indirectly I pay their wages.

I just feel that this exchange didn't get the full ammount of attention that it deserved.  Hilarious. Good show!
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Re: WE HATE SPORTS
« Reply #49 on: 30 Sep 2009, 08:05 »

hey khar, i hate sports too.

high five! or civil handshake, whatever you're into.
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