Topic: Inception (Read 23270 times)

KvP · « **on:** 29 Dec 2009, 12:41 »

So the second trailer is out for Christopher Nolan's new movie Inception and it looks to be going for the same feel as the first Matrix, which can only be good as far as I'm concerned. Leo plays a CEO type who invades people's dreams to steal ideas, Ellen Page is a neophyte assistant who needs to learn the rules of dream invasion, Joseph-Gordon Levitt is some sort of fighter dude (another assistant?) and Ken Watanabe is a villain of some sort. Apparently Luke Haas and Cillian Murphy are also in the film, though in what capacity I can't say.

Looks pretty good.

Ikrik · « **Reply #1 on:** 29 Dec 2009, 13:19 »

Gave me a Dark City vibe and it looks to be pretty amazing. I'm a little torn though, I'm not sure what I'm more excited/happy about: Seeing a trailer for Nolan's new film, or seeing Leonardo DiCaprio choose some amazing film roles. Seriously, the guy has churned out some amazing movies recently: Aviator, Blood Diamond, Departed. I remembered when a lot of people thought his career was over after The Beach.

RallyMonkey · « **Reply #2 on:** 29 Dec 2009, 21:58 »

You forgot Revolutionary Road.

Ikrik · « **Reply #3 on:** 29 Dec 2009, 22:05 »

Never saw it and I heard some people say some bad things about it so I didn't include it. I take it he's good in it?

JD · « **Reply #4 on:** 29 Dec 2009, 22:30 »

yeah.

I think he stole the show in blood diamond though. There should have been more focus on the black dude.

RallyMonkey · « **Reply #5 on:** 29 Dec 2009, 22:33 »

I thought Revolutionary Road was the best movie of 2008.

scarred · « **Reply #6 on:** 30 Dec 2009, 07:45 »

This looks pretty okay. The title is stupid though. Sounds like a Dan Brown novel.

KvP · « **Reply #7 on:** 30 Dec 2009, 11:48 »

Quote from: Zombiedude on 29 Dec 2009, 22:30

There should have been more focus on the black dude.

Story of Hollywood.

satsugaikaze · « **Reply #8 on:** 30 Dec 2009, 12:50 »

The trailer I saw in the cinemas was so fucking obscure it was aggravating.

Typical-Nolan-Strings-Instrumental-Slide ala The Dark Knight, Film-By-Christopher-Nolan-Small-Credits-Reel Bunch-of-Guys-Punching-The-Shit-Out-Of-Each-Other-In-Midair No-Dialogue Zoom-Out-Of-City BAM-Turns-Out-To-Be-Inception

"Whaaaaaatttttttttttt" crappiest teaser ever.
That said the premise sounds interesting enough for me to wiki the plot.

KvP · « **Reply #9 on:** 30 Dec 2009, 14:47 »

This is not the teaser, this is the trailer.

Lines · « **Reply #10 on:** 30 Dec 2009, 19:24 »

Quote from: Zombiedude on 29 Dec 2009, 22:30

I think he stole the show in blood diamond though. There should have been more focus on the black dude.

Djimon Hounsou was still pretty fantastic in it and I don't think Leo stole all the focus. (Also Revolutionary Road was really good, whoever didn't see it.)

I saw the trailer for this before Sherlock and I was utterly confused by it. I remember seeing DiCaprio and Paige and a bunch of weird ass stuff, but that's it. I'm not sure if I should be excited about it or not because I didn't know what this was even about until I read the OP. It looked cool, just very confusing.

satsugaikaze · « **Reply #11 on:** 31 Dec 2009, 06:38 »

Quote from: Linds on 30 Dec 2009, 19:24

I saw the trailer for this before Sherlock and I was utterly confused by it. I remember seeing DiCaprio and Paige and a bunch of weird ass stuff, but that's it. I'm not sure if I should be excited about it or not because I didn't know what this was even about until I read the OP. It looked cool, just very confusing.

Basically this. No doubt the actual trailer probably would have explained a lot more, but it was so pretentious I didn't know what to expect.

Dazed · « **Reply #12 on:** 09 Jul 2010, 19:36 »

Just FYI, this movie is fucking awesome.

EDIT: I don't want to say much about it because I don't want to spoil anything, but suffice to say it's extremely complex and detailed without at any point being confusing or overwrought.

De_El · « **Reply #13 on:** 09 Jul 2010, 19:51 »

Based on the cast, the director, and the fact that it's not a goddamn franchise or sequel movie, i don't think there's any way I'm not seeing this movie. The premise is pretty interesting, but I don't always necessarily put too much stock in that. A movie can be based on a great idea and be hideously executed. Anyway, this will be the only movie I've seen in theatres all summer besides Toy Story 3.

scarred · « **Reply #14 on:** 09 Jul 2010, 20:01 »

If this film is not a success, it will be the end of original cinema. At this point, I don't care if it's shitty. It's something new.

look out! Ninjas! · « **Reply #15 on:** 10 Jul 2010, 00:12 »

Will it be in 3D?

Dimmukane · « **Reply #16 on:** 10 Jul 2010, 00:27 »

No, thank god. Nolan is staunchly against shooting in 3D until he feels the technology is readily available to not turn 3D movies into a dark suckfest.

Disclaimer: drunk

Cartilage Head · « **Reply #17 on:** 10 Jul 2010, 02:04 »

I am excited for this movie. One of my favorite directors, and also I completely cream myself when I see Cillian Murphy's name attached to anything. I would let a guy who's name sounded similar to Cillian Murphy rim me for hours.

Inlander · « **Reply #18 on:** 10 Jul 2010, 05:21 »

Every time I see the trailer for this I think for a few seconds that I'm seeing a trailer for Shutter Island again. I see Leonardo DiCaprio and I hear BUUUUUUAARRRMMMMMMM and it's just like watching the beginning of that film all over again. I didn't realise this film was done by Christopher Nolan, though; I have trouble getting behind him ever since that massive cop-out ending to Memento where all of a sudden Guy Pearce's memory lasts about three times longer than we know it's supposed to, just because Nolan and his brother couldn't be bothered thinking of another way to finish the movie that was actually contiguous with the movie's already well-established internal logic.

I guess this film sounds interesting, though. I'll probably see it if they show it at my local cinema.

Jimmy the Squid · « **Reply #19 on:** 10 Jul 2010, 08:26 »

I was ok with the ending for Memento because it does have a bit where if he concentrates hard enough he can remember stuff for a bit longer. Granted that's probably me rationalising what was, really, a cop-out. That said, that's one of his earlier films and his efforts since then have been even better.

Inlander · « **Reply #20 on:** 10 Jul 2010, 09:26 »

It just pisses me off because it's such lazy writing.

KvP · « **Reply #21 on:** 10 Jul 2010, 14:38 »

It's best not to think too hard about the plausability of Lenny's condition in Memento.

scarred · « **Reply #22 on:** 10 Jul 2010, 16:44 »

Some scenes were a lot shorter than others in that movie, the ending was hardly the worst offender.

That said, I didn't care, because that movie is fucking ace.

Jimmy the Squid · « **Reply #23 on:** 11 Jul 2010, 06:37 »

Quote from: KvP on 10 Jul 2010, 14:38

It's best not to think too hard about the plausability of Lenny's condition in Memento.

Dude you know that anterograde amnesia is a real condition right?

Coward · « **Reply #24 on:** 11 Jul 2010, 06:42 »

Spoilers?

Wasn't it implied in the film that Lenny doesn't actually have amnesia but was subconsciously manufacturing his condition to escape from the fact he was responsible for his wife's death?

/Spoilers

Jimmy the Squid · « **Reply #25 on:** 11 Jul 2010, 06:56 »

Spoolers!

There is an implication that his condition might not be genuine as he is aware of another case of anterograde amnesia from his insurance agent days where the guy is deemed to be faking and there are huge similarities in the circumstances between the two men. However given that anterograde amnesia can be caused by severe emotional distress (like having your wife die) I never found any solid reason to view the film from the position that Lenny was faking it, even subconciously.

TheFuriousWombat · « **Reply #26 on:** 11 Jul 2010, 09:08 »

Quote from: De_El on 09 Jul 2010, 19:51

this will be the only movie I've seen in theatres all summer besides Toy Story 3.

KvP · « **Reply #27 on:** 11 Jul 2010, 12:08 »

Quote from: Jimmy the Squid on 11 Jul 2010, 06:37

Quote from: KvP on 10 Jul 2010, 14:38
It's best not to think too hard about the plausability of Lenny's condition in Memento.

Dude you know that anterograde amnesia is a real condition right?

Memento's amnesia has been tailor fit for a film narrative. Back when it came out the consensus was that the way it's shown isn't the way it's actually experienced.

october1983 · « **Reply #28 on:** 11 Jul 2010, 12:26 »

Really? I mean, it's not perfect but the impression I've got (in particular from a lecturer in psychology) is that they did a much better job than most films. Also, Wikipedia agrees, citing a handful of pretty reputable sources. I'm sure there are other, equally reputable, dissenting voices, but it strikes me that Memento is far from the worst offender when it comes to the depiction of amnesia in movies.

jimbunny · « **Reply #29 on:** 11 Jul 2010, 14:38 »

More realistic than, say, A Beautiful Mind.

Runner4406pack · « **Reply #30 on:** 14 Jul 2010, 00:28 »

Random question jimbunny is your avatar Tim Roth, from the movie legend of 1900? if so takes on the movie? I know its older just wondering havn't seen it in a while but i remember liking it

jimbunny · « **Reply #31 on:** 14 Jul 2010, 12:18 »

Correct. Beautiful man, beautiful film.

FUN FACT
1990: In the film version of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead, Tim Roth as Guildenstern has a monologue professing a desire to spend his whole life on a boat. 1998: In The Legend of 1900, Tim Roth plays the character 1900, who spends his whole life on a boat. This man is somehow special.

Yunior · « **Reply #32 on:** 14 Jul 2010, 18:24 »

I practically peed my pants when I saw the trailer a few months ago, and now I'm actually somewhat worried my high expectations will spoil it for me.

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KvP · « **Reply #33 on:** 14 Jul 2010, 18:38 »

Yunior! Nice to see you again.

Looks like the backlash has already started. The 2 reviewers I initially turn to (AV Club and Ebert) are both highly positive (A- and 4 stars, respectively) but there have been a small-but-likely-to-grow number of prominent critics (not including Armond White) who have panned it. They're calling it the "anti-Avatar" (the big money one, not the shit one), which seems a bit premature.

knives · « **Reply #34 on:** 14 Jul 2010, 21:39 »

What's a better compliment than 'anti-Avatar'? That suggests to me a well written story full of complete characters and actors how are competent at their job. A lot of the negative critiques remind me of when The Prestige, my favorite of Nolan's films, came out. Most, not necessarily all, of these critics seem upset that the film was even some what cryptic.
Though honestly this looks like a less imaginative, but better written Paprika.

Ikrik · « **Reply #35 on:** 15 Jul 2010, 02:06 »

Anti-Avatar? If that's the case this might be my favourite film of the year. Seriously though, I was expecting some bad reviews but some of these critics are calling the story boring and un-engaging which is a direct contradiction of everything I've heard about it.

I was totally sold on this film when it was just Nolan and DiCaprio. But then I heard that Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Tom Hardy were also in it and now this might be one of the first films I've seen on opening weekend. This movie is filled with ridiculously fantastic actors.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #36 on:** 15 Jul 2010, 10:08 »

Wouldn't anti-avatar also mean terrible special effects? That doesn't seem to be the case from the previews I've seen.

Blue Kitty · « **Reply #37 on:** 15 Jul 2010, 15:55 »

I think he means that they serve a purpose instead of the audience saying, "Oh man, look at that flower, it's coming out at me"

How come I just found out Cillian Murphy is in this?

Yunior · « **Reply #38 on:** 16 Jul 2010, 14:27 »

Hearing David Edelstein rip into this movie on Fresh Air today was a highly cathartic experience for me.

Siiiiiiiiiiigh.

evilbobthebob · « **Reply #39 on:** 16 Jul 2010, 14:34 »

http://www.observer.com/2010/culture/can-someone-please-explain-inception-me

Possibly one of the most venomous movie reviews I have ever read. Now I really have to see Inception when it releases in the UK.

Dazed · « **Reply #40 on:** 16 Jul 2010, 14:39 »

That was one of the most horrifyingly idiotic reviews I've ever read.

I'm actually very very sad that that person is employed, and will probably reproduce.

BrittanyMarie · « **Reply #41 on:** 16 Jul 2010, 15:02 »

i do believe that person was panning it just to pan it and be different. anyway, i saw it last night and i thought it was fantastic. and no, it's not nearly as confusing as the trailer would have you believe

BrittanyMarie · « **Reply #42 on:** 16 Jul 2010, 15:13 »

also i am pretty sure he got the actual plot wrong, which is kind of funny to me

KvP · « **Reply #43 on:** 16 Jul 2010, 15:29 »

Quote from: evilbobthebob on 16 Jul 2010, 14:34

http://www.observer.com/2010/culture/can-someone-please-explain-inception-me

Possibly one of the most venomous movie reviews I have ever read. Now I really have to see Inception when it releases in the UK.

Rex Reed is old. Ronald Reagan old.

Johnny C · « **Reply #44 on:** 16 Jul 2010, 16:54 »

rex reed is fascinating to me

Johnny C · « **Reply #45 on:** 16 Jul 2010, 16:55 »

oh my god here's a real headline from that page

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Why the Police Kept Pitchfork's Ryan Schreiber From DJing Last Night at the Wavves Party in Bushwick

knives · « **Reply #46 on:** 16 Jul 2010, 19:00 »

Anyone who doesn't get 'it' by the end of the first hour is simply dense. The entire first part of the movie seems tailored to show how the film works and hint at the later character stuff.
Spoilers: The thing I'm most impressed with in this movie is how the exposition is handled. This part of things could really get bogged down, but Page's character acting like how a scientist/architect would mixed with most of the exposition being shown really helped to keep up the pace. The movie on the whole reminded me of eXistenZ, especially with the ending. A lot of the film seems to be commenting on itself as a film. Ellipses being an important story element is just sort of an example. I also liked how Nolan seems to be going back on himself with DiCaprio's predicament being very similar to Lenny's. The highlight for me was the second section though which really managed to show Nolan's psychological side as expertly as ever.
Also the hallway battle is just some pure awe, as fun as can be that one.

RallyMonkey · « **Reply #47 on:** 16 Jul 2010, 21:09 »

I thought this was great.

I also feel that if anyone came out of the movie confused, they were trying way too hard. The plot was extremely straight forward. It was very good, but it was no harder to understand than The Dark Knight or anything like it.

Also, that review above does get the plot incredibly wrong, which makes me feel that the reviewer either didn't watch the movie, or was far too dense to understand the relatively simple plot.

KvP · « **Reply #48 on:** 17 Jul 2010, 00:30 »

Saw it! It was really good, with a great cast. I had heard a lot of "James Bond meets the Matrix" but it was really more "The Italian Job meets Existenz". It's a surprisingly conventional heist movie with an unusual premise and a lot of metaphysical gobbledygook used to expand the conventions of the genre. I really, really enjoyed the nesting-doll approach at the end, that was very very clever. I don't think that's really a spoiler.

I actually thought the two leads are the weakest part of the film despite their having the most backstory, but the movie is so fast-paced you don't stop to think that we know next to nothing about Joseph Gordon Levitt's character. Strong work by the supporting cast. And it's nice to see Ken Watanabe getting a juicier role after being wasted as a bait-and-switch in Batman Begins. Also who would have thought we'd see Tom Beringer in a big-tent movie again? I guess he finally cut away.

Dazed · « **Reply #49 on:** 17 Jul 2010, 01:00 »

I saw it again tonight with the lady, and actually enjoyed it more on a 2nd viewing. There are some nifty subtleties to it that I missed the first time while I was digging on the general plot.

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