Topic: ATP NY 2K10 (Read 16688 times)

David_Dovey · « **on:** 11 Jan 2010, 02:29 »

Holy fucking shit

Seriously considering rearranging my U.S trip in order to be in NY for this

Thrillho · « **Reply #1 on:** 11 Jan 2010, 03:44 »

Stooges playing Raw Power? I'm intrigued and aroused.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #2 on:** 11 Jan 2010, 05:09 »

Incidentally I assumed that the Stooges were gonna call it quits after Ron Asheton passed away.

So sayeth the Wiki:

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In a May 2009 interview, Pop announced his plans to join with Watt, Scott Asheton, Mackay and former guitarist James Williamson and perform Raw Power as "Iggy and the Stooges", with an openness to future projects with this lineup.[18][19] Pop stated that "although 'the Stooges' died with Ron Asheton, there is still 'Iggy and the Stooges'".[20

This kind of made me say "eww"

valley_parade · « **Reply #3 on:** 11 Jan 2010, 07:38 »

Oh SHIT. I may have to do this.

I'd say last year's was better, cos Boris played Flood in it's entirety, but then Deerhoof played.

Thrillho · « **Reply #4 on:** 11 Jan 2010, 08:56 »

Quote from: David_Dovey on 11 Jan 2010, 05:09

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In a May 2009 interview, Pop announced his plans to join with Watt, Scott Asheton, Mackay and former guitarist James Williamson and perform Raw Power as "Iggy and the Stooges", with an openness to future projects with this lineup.[18][19] Pop stated that "although 'the Stooges' died with Ron Asheton, there is still 'Iggy and the Stooges'".[20

This kind of made me say "eww"

While I feel to an extent this isn't fair on Ron's memory, at the same time Ron was hugely marginalised in the 'Iggy and the...' line-up in the first place. So having James back in on guitar actually sort of makes sense, it's just an extremely morbid sense.

valley_parade · « **Reply #5 on:** 11 Jan 2010, 09:13 »

Ugh, two hundred and fifty fucking dollars for tickets?

No thanks. I've changed my mind.

Ballard · « **Reply #6 on:** 11 Jan 2010, 10:49 »

It's ATP. What the fuck did you expect?

God I'm still so down for this.

valley_parade · « **Reply #7 on:** 11 Jan 2010, 11:00 »

I've got stuff to do, man. Guitars to buy and build. Jobs to get, moving out and getting my own place.

Ballard · « **Reply #8 on:** 11 Jan 2010, 11:01 »

Where are you moving out to?

valley_parade · « **Reply #9 on:** 11 Jan 2010, 11:04 »

Probably staying in town for the time being, sadly.

Ballard · « **Reply #10 on:** 11 Jan 2010, 11:11 »

Rent in Boston is $500 f you are willing to have a roommate. How much cheaper could it possibly be?

valley_parade · « **Reply #11 on:** 11 Jan 2010, 11:13 »

Yeah, about the same.

Dogg, maybe we should get a place down there together or something.

Ballard · « **Reply #12 on:** 11 Jan 2010, 11:20 »

Shit, sounds good to me.

But lets not derail this thread anymore.

I think I'm going to start a thread about moving out soon.

Misereatur · « **Reply #13 on:** 11 Jan 2010, 11:31 »

Quote from: Ballard on 11 Jan 2010, 10:49

God I'm still so down for this.

I'm planing to go this year. I'll be a civilian by then and I've saved up just enough to get me there. It's a bitch to find accommodations but I guess it'll work out eventually.

Also, I saw the Stooges with Ron Asheton and Mike Watt a couple of years ago and it was probably the best concert I've ever been to.

Tom · « **Reply #14 on:** 11 Jan 2010, 13:14 »

The F4 inspired poster is pretty cool.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #15 on:** 11 Jan 2010, 19:22 »

Quote from: DynamiteKid on 11 Jan 2010, 08:56

Quote from: David_Dovey on 11 Jan 2010, 05:09
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In a May 2009 interview, Pop announced his plans to join with Watt, Scott Asheton, Mackay and former guitarist James Williamson and perform Raw Power as "Iggy and the Stooges", with an openness to future projects with this lineup.[18][19] Pop stated that "although 'the Stooges' died with Ron Asheton, there is still 'Iggy and the Stooges'".[20
This kind of made me say "eww"
While I feel to an extent this isn't fair on Ron's memory, at the same time Ron was hugely marginalised in the 'Iggy and the...' line-up in the first place. So having James back in on guitar actually sort of makes sense, it's just an extremely morbid sense.

While I saw the logic in it from the start, it still strikes me as a bit of a semantic wriggle, claiming that you can't have "The Stooges" without Ron, but you can have "Iggy and". I guess it depends on whether or not you personally define "The Stooges" and "Iggy and the Stooges" as separate entities. Honestly if they'd never said Ron was irreplaceable I probably wouldn't have a problem. And of course it's not enough of a problem to not make seeing them an extremely inviting prospect, particularly seeing as I didn't see the Asheton lineup when they played at the Big Day Out three years ago (another one of those situations where I only got into the band after they'd been, natch)

Of course one might find similar problems with the reunion of Sleep, what with supposed tension between Al Cisneros and Chris Hakius after the latter's departure from Om.

KvP · « **Reply #16 on:** 11 Jan 2010, 19:28 »

Scott Asheton's still alive, and he's still hungry. He was pretty much the only good thing about The Weirdness, if there was a good thing about it. If he's okay with it I am. Besides, I think Williamson gets short shrift in general, given his reputation as a supposed pretender to Ron Asheton's throne. He's a pretty good guitarist.

StaedlerMars · « **Reply #17 on:** 12 Jan 2010, 03:02 »

ugh, why are ATP tickets always so expensive (I know why, but it's still upsetting cause I don't have that money)

David_Dovey · « **Reply #18 on:** 12 Jan 2010, 03:21 »

Quote from: KvP on 11 Jan 2010, 19:28

Besides, I think Williamson gets short shrift in general, given his reputation as a supposed pretender to Ron Asheton's throne. He's a pretty good guitarist.

The opening solo on "Search and Destroy" makes me smile every time

Thrillho · « **Reply #19 on:** 12 Jan 2010, 07:01 »

Quote from: David_Dovey on 11 Jan 2010, 19:22

Quote from: DynamiteKid on 11 Jan 2010, 08:56
Quote from: David_Dovey on 11 Jan 2010, 05:09
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In a May 2009 interview, Pop announced his plans to join with Watt, Scott Asheton, Mackay and former guitarist James Williamson and perform Raw Power as "Iggy and the Stooges", with an openness to future projects with this lineup.[18][19] Pop stated that "although 'the Stooges' died with Ron Asheton, there is still 'Iggy and the Stooges'".[20
This kind of made me say "eww"
While I feel to an extent this isn't fair on Ron's memory, at the same time Ron was hugely marginalised in the 'Iggy and the...' line-up in the first place. So having James back in on guitar actually sort of makes sense, it's just an extremely morbid sense.

While I saw the logic in it from the start, it still strikes me as a bit of a semantic wriggle, claiming that you can't have "The Stooges" without Ron, but you can have "Iggy and". I guess it depends on whether or not you personally define "The Stooges" and "Iggy and the Stooges" as separate entities. Honestly if they'd never said Ron was irreplaceable I probably wouldn't have a problem. And of course it's not enough of a problem to not make seeing them an extremely inviting prospect, particularly seeing as I didn't see the Asheton lineup when they played at the Big Day Out three years ago (another one of those situations where I only got into the band after they'd been, natch)

It is just semantics, but I still definitely consider 'Iggy and the' to be basically a separate entity. Different name, different line-up, different band; if only one of those was true then I'd reconsider. Three of the members were the same, yes, but Ron was reluctantly playing bass and as such it was virtually pointless him being involved at all. That album was not really about him, but Iggy and Williamson. If Ron had played guitar on the album and they'd replaced him with an unknown entity, I'd be less understanding.

KvP · « **Reply #20 on:** 14 Jan 2010, 21:09 »

Is Matt Groening curating the NY one too, or just the UK one? He's got some good acts over there.

TheFuriousWombat · « **Reply #21 on:** 14 Jan 2010, 22:10 »

The Simpsons guy?

KvP · « **Reply #22 on:** 14 Jan 2010, 22:34 »

Apparently!

Beats Mike Patton. But I guess you could get like, Roger Ailes and it would be a step up from Mike Patton.

KvP · « **Reply #23 on:** 15 Jan 2010, 03:23 »

Yep

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The line-up so far looks like this with far more to be confirmed:

IGGY & THE STOOGES / THE XX / COCO ROSIE / BUILT TO SPILL / JAMES CHANCE AND LES CONTORTIONS / PANDA BEAR / DEERHUNTER / DANIEL JOHNSTON / THE RESIDENTS / BOREDOMS performing Boadrum / THE RAINCOATS / BROADCAST / THEE OH SEES / JUANA MOLINA / LIGHTNING DUST / KONONO N°1 / TOUMANI DIABATE / DANIELSON / JAMES BLACKSHAW / AMADOU AND MARIAM / PONYTAIL / SHONEN KNIFE / RUINS (SOLO) / VIV ALBERTINE'S LIMERENCE / ANNI ROSSI

David_Dovey · « **Reply #24 on:** 15 Jan 2010, 18:41 »

Yeah I guess that's a good lineup if you like indie rock or something

HEY GUYS

HEY GUYS

I JUST SENT AWAY MY $$$ FOR THE TICKETS

WHO'S GONNA COME WITH

Misereatur · « **Reply #25 on:** 16 Jan 2010, 05:21 »

But where are we going to stay?

David_Dovey · « **Reply #26 on:** 16 Jan 2010, 21:10 »

I'm looking at getting accommodation either at a Howard Johnson in Liberty, or a Day's Inn in Wurtsboro, both of which cost US$55/night and are about 15/20 minutes drive away from Kutsher's Country Club, where the fest is being held (the links take you to Google Maps directions from the respective accommodation to Kutsher's).

There is also a campground that the ATP site recommended, which is $25/night and 4 minutes drive/32 minutes walk from Kutsher's, if you didn't mind roughing it.

Misereatur · « **Reply #27 on:** 16 Jan 2010, 23:50 »

Roughing it is fine by me. I'm pretty sure they have a few of 4-5 person rooms still available at Kutsher's. There's also The Raleigh hotel although I've been warned about staying there.

Meanwhile I'm trying to find a few more people who'd go with me but nobody's into it as much as I am.

I need to set a few more things straight (tickets to new york, the grant money I'm supposed to get in July) but right now I'm 90% sure I'm going.

Retrospectre · « **Reply #28 on:** 17 Jan 2010, 01:09 »

I'm mad jealous.

I've got to get to an ATP before I die.

Maybe if I start saving now I can go in 2011.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #29 on:** 17 Jan 2010, 18:41 »

Quote from: Misereatur on 16 Jan 2010, 23:50

Roughing it is fine by me. I'm pretty sure they have a few of 4-5 person rooms still available at Kutsher's. There's also The Raleigh hotel although I've been warned about staying there.

The Kutsher's and Raleigh deals provided through ATP are a fucking rort, there's no way I'm going with that. US$150 per person for three nights. For the "inconvenience" of having to drive 15 minutes each way there's the two places I found for $165 for three nights, between two, not to mention the camping ground. It just doesn't really make sense to me. Not to mention having to have between 3-7 people in a room. No thanks.

Retrospectre, hopefully they'll keep having ATP's in Aus (like the Nick Cave one last year) so at least you won't have to fly halfway round the world for it, just the other side of the country.

Retrospectre · « **Reply #30 on:** 17 Jan 2010, 20:07 »

I don't think ATP Australia made much money though so it might be the last one we see for quite some time.

Misereatur · « **Reply #31 on:** 18 Jan 2010, 01:36 »

Quote from: David_Dovey on 17 Jan 2010, 18:41

The Kutsher's and Raleigh deals provided through ATP are a fucking rort, there's no way I'm going with that. US$150 per person for three nights. For the "inconvenience" of having to drive 15 minutes each way there's the two places I found for $165 for three nights, between two, not to mention the camping ground. It just doesn't really make sense to me. Not to mention having to have between 3-7 people in a room. No thanks.

I guess you're right. Look's like I might have to rough it. I'm not sure I'll have the $165 after the ATP ticket and the plane tickets, so $25 a night sounds pretty sweet.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #32 on:** 18 Jan 2010, 06:25 »

Quote from: Retrospectre on 17 Jan 2010, 20:07

I don't think ATP Australia made much money though so it might be the last one we see for quite some time.

hahahahahaha our country is a cultural wasteland

Sythe · « **Reply #33 on:** 18 Jan 2010, 07:15 »

Between tickets, lodgings, and recreational drug costs, I know I don't have the money, but Sleep playing Dopethrone?!??!!?!

Who wants to buy my organs?

David_Dovey · « **Reply #34 on:** 18 Jan 2010, 07:18 »

They're playing Holy Mountain.

Are you stoned right now?

Reed · « **Reply #35 on:** 18 Jan 2010, 11:29 »

I would also like to point out that sleep did Dopesmoker.

Dopethrone be the product of Electric Wizard.

Johnny C · « **Reply #36 on:** 18 Jan 2010, 15:39 »

Quote from: KvP on 15 Jan 2010, 03:23

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PONYTAIL / SHONEN KNIFE

The order here is BAFFLING.

Damnable Fiend · « **Reply #37 on:** 18 Jan 2010, 20:07 »

fuck, why does nothing like this ever happen in Toronto

between the prohibitive cost of tickets, the fact that I can't drive, and the fact that the only people even close to NYC that I know live in Rochester... there's no way I can go.

edit: actually I'm still more jealous of the Netherlands for getting Roadburn, but this is pretty awesome too.

onewheelwizzard · « **Reply #38 on:** 21 Jan 2010, 08:09 »

Fuck goddamn motherfuck shit goddamn Sleep's performing Holy Mountain and I can't go

oh wait it's because I'll be at Burning Man.

Have fun guys!

David_Dovey · « **Reply #39 on:** 21 Jan 2010, 20:38 »

Fuck yes no longhair hessians at my fucking rockfest

Misereatur · « **Reply #40 on:** 22 Jan 2010, 05:19 »

I'm totally going to go up to Al and say "I was one of the five people who stayed to watch you play for five hours straight in Jerusalem".

StaedlerMars · « **Reply #41 on:** 23 Jan 2010, 17:20 »

When I saw Iggy & The Stooges a couple of years ago it was at this concert festival thing where there was a giant area for VIP in between people who were there to watch Iggy and the stage. It was filled with people wearing fancy suits. They were rushed by the people who were there to rock, who then also rushed the stage. The security guards tried to interfere but Mr. Pop told them to 'let the fuckers on'*.

*I'm not sure that's exactly what he said, but it was close.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #42 on:** 24 Jan 2010, 03:26 »

Yeah I am totally hopping up on stage and dancing with Jim Osterberg

onewheelwizzard · « **Reply #43 on:** 25 Jan 2010, 11:23 »

Quote from: Misereatur on 22 Jan 2010, 05:19

I'm totally going to go up to Al and say "I was one of the five people who stayed to watch you play for five hours straight in Jerusalem".

Now this is something I'm fucking jealous of. Goddamn.

KvP · « **Reply #44 on:** 26 Jan 2010, 14:15 »

Spiritualized playing Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space in its entirety has been added to Matt Groening's UK gig.

Looks like that's the one to go to, now.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #45 on:** 27 Jan 2010, 04:02 »

Shiiiiiiit

Eli · « **Reply #46 on:** 12 Feb 2010, 12:39 »

The curator and some of the bands were announced today.
Jim Jarmusch is hosting.
Bands he picked:
THE BRIAN JONESTOWN MASSACRE
RAEKWON
GIRLS
F*CKED UP
WOODEN SHJIPS
THE BLACK ANGELS
VIVIAN GIRLS

Others confirmed:
SONIC YOUTH
EXPLOSIONS IN THE SKY
THE BREEDERS
F**K BUTTONS
THE BOOKS
PAPA M
APSE

amok · « **Reply #47 on:** 12 Feb 2010, 13:11 »

f**k yeah I f**king love f*cked up and f**k buttons

Eli · « **Reply #48 on:** 12 Feb 2010, 13:18 »

That's how it is on the site. I just copy and pasted.

Also, for those camping, keep in mind that both of the other times, it's been rainy and cold when you're packing stuff.

Tom · « **Reply #49 on:** 12 Feb 2010, 16:57 »

Oh man, why I gotta be stuck in this shithole

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