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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #300 on: 21 Feb 2011, 19:13 »

It really depends on what kindof rock music you prefer. While the BJM can be characterized in general as a psychedelic rock band, they change their approach from record to record. That being said the album Give it Back! is an excellent introductory one as it's a good overview of the various styes they tackle on their other 90's records. I'd also get Take It From the Man! (inspired by garage rock that preceded the BJM on Bomp!) and Their Satantic Majesties' Second Request, (their love-letter to 60's psych) probably their best albums. I wouldn't start with their newer material; I personally enjoy it quite a lot but it's stranger and is a matter of debate among Jonestown fans.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #301 on: 21 Feb 2011, 19:23 »

added the albums mentioned above to the wink wink thread
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #302 on: 21 Feb 2011, 21:55 »

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #303 on: 22 Feb 2011, 17:47 »

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #304 on: 25 Mar 2011, 06:07 »

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #305 on: 04 Apr 2011, 16:06 »

What are good places to start with Throbbing Gristle and/or acid house and/or industrial rock?
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #306 on: 04 Apr 2011, 17:25 »

What are good places to start with Throbbing Gristle and/or acid house and/or industrial rock?
20 Jazz Funk Greats is generally known as their most accessible, but it's not very industrial. Still a must-listen, though. I'd really recommend Suicide--not industrial, per se, but very in line with the aesthetic. Absolutely brilliant, at that. As for acid house, it's hard to say just because it was so singles-oriented; I don't know what the best comps are. If no one else has anything I can see about posting/uploading some essential singles, because I have a pretty good amount of it.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #307 on: 05 Apr 2011, 19:55 »

A good place to start with acid house is probably Ten Ragas to a Disco Beat, which isn't actually acid house (it predated the phenomenon by a few years) but nonetheless sounds remarkably similar.

Psychic TV released some seminal albums in the late 80's. Coil also dabbled.

As for industrial rock, well, you'll meet a lot of people with taste who claim that none of it was very good, but you'd probably do well to start where most people do - Skinny Puppy's Too Dark Park, Ministry's The Land of Rape and Honey and The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste, and Nine Inch Nails' discography up until The Fragile. A lot of people like KMFDM but I never got into them. Swans' Greed / Holy Money is more industrial than rock but it's certainly a watershed.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #308 on: 05 Apr 2011, 21:43 »

I would hesitate to call Too Dark Park (or even Skinny Puppy in general) Industrial Rock. If you're going to be that loose with the definition I might recommend, say, 'Third Mall From the Sun' or 'Light, But Refreshing' by Snog, or going the other way maybe albums by Alien Sex Fiend or some Neu Deutsche Welle bands, particularly Malaria! and Deutsch Amerikanische Freundschaft.

The question with industrial rock is: what are you looking for? Do you want something heavy, metallic? If so, the above Ministry albums, or 'Pure' by Godflesh or many other Justin Broadrick related projects (I'm quite keen on the first Ice album 'Under the Skin' or 'Life is Easy' by the pre-Godflesh Fall of Because at this particular moment). If you're looking for the sort of industrial rock that you might hear soundtracking a 'dark and edgy' 90's action movie or school shooting you want KMFDM ('Angst'), My Life With the Thrill Kill Kult ('Kooler Than Jesus'), White Zombie ('Astro-Creep 2000'), Pig (never really rated Pig but I guess 'Sinsation'), the NiN mentioned above or, quite honestly, there's nothing really wrong with the first two Rammstein albums. If you're after something slightly more clever and a bit old-school, your best bet is Foetus ('Nail', which may have the artist listed as 'Scraping Foetus Off the Wheel'), Swans or Cop Shoot Cop ('Ask Questions Later'). There's also the really underrated J.G Thirlwell side-project Wiseblood, which is kind of what you'd get if you mashed together big-band swing and early Swans.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #309 on: 06 Apr 2011, 21:55 »

So, I finally want to listen to Sloan. You cunts kept saying to do so, and now I am taking notice. Which album is the best to start with?

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #310 on: 06 Apr 2011, 22:03 »

I'd start with their early material.  Get Twice Removed and One Chord to Another, you can't go wrong with either. 
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #311 on: 08 Apr 2011, 14:41 »

I would hesitate to call Too Dark Park (or even Skinny Puppy in general) Industrial Rock.

Skinny Puppy had one album you could call industrial "rock" and that one turned out the way it did because Al Jourgensen from Ministry was playing with them at the time.

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #312 on: 21 Apr 2011, 07:34 »

I'm really digging Yo La Tengo's Ride the Tiger, where do I go from here?
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #313 on: 21 Apr 2011, 11:09 »

I've been noticing that a lot of the punk bands I like seem to dig Superchunk, and I also like the cover New Bruises did on their split with O Pioneers!!!.

Superchunk me, guys.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #314 on: 21 Apr 2011, 11:40 »

I too would like to be Superchunk'd
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #315 on: 21 Apr 2011, 11:44 »

I'm really digging Yo La Tengo's Ride the Tiger, where do I go from here?

It's all good from that point onwards, just keep going in order. I can't think of one which I'd feel okay about skipping. Great band.

I second this sentiment. Don't overlook the EPs. There is some pretty cool stuff tucked away on them.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #316 on: 21 Apr 2011, 12:19 »

For Superchunk, you can't go wrong with No Pocky for Kitty. It's produced by Steve Albini, what else could you ask for?
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #317 on: 21 Apr 2011, 14:52 »

Their new record is a rather good place to start too.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #318 on: 21 Apr 2011, 15:27 »

I have to agree with Tommy, but you should check out Majesty Shredding. It's exciting to hear Superchunk coming out with more good material.
Also, John Darnielle is on the album doing backup vocals for Digging for Something. His unbridled enthusiasm shows through in a way that makes me smile.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #319 on: 29 Apr 2011, 13:17 »

Sleater-Kinney? I'vet got Jumpers on my Spotify playlist but unsure of where to go next Also, I guess riot grrl in general? (are they riot grrl? at the moment I know fuck all about it).
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #320 on: 29 Apr 2011, 15:51 »

I would start on Dig Me Out or The Woods.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #321 on: 04 May 2011, 16:27 »

Okkervil River, please?
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #322 on: 04 May 2011, 17:17 »

I have a question for this thread, but I've already started, so I want to know where should I go next with Joan of Arc?

I have Flowers, which I love, and Boo Human, which mostly annoys me, but has a couple good songs. So what next?

if they have more acoustical jam-out awesomesauce songs like the six minute masterpiece "flowers" then I'd love to hear them, but I get the feeling that that song is a bit of an anomalie.

recommending other bands that aren't necessarily joan of arc or joan of arc related is okay too
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #323 on: 04 May 2011, 19:45 »

Just FYI Tommy is full of shit and also Black Sheep Boy is the super-obvious choice
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #324 on: 04 May 2011, 21:11 »

Okkervil River, please?

For the Okkies I'd recommend seeing them live before you've heard a note of their music, then collecting their albums based on which songs from their show you liked best.

That's what I did and it was ace.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #325 on: 04 May 2011, 21:20 »

Start with the Stage Names and work backwards. Skip Savanah Smiles, that song sucks.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #326 on: 04 May 2011, 22:13 »

Anyone know some good Crust? Stuff like Black Breath and Darkthrone?
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« Reply #327 on: 05 May 2011, 08:30 »

Anyone know some good Crust? Stuff like Black Breath and Darkthrone?

Would Trap Them cover this? Trap Them are insane.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #328 on: 05 May 2011, 15:27 »

Anyone know some good Crust? Stuff like Black Breath and Darkthrone?

Yeah Trap Them, Nails, Lebanon, The Secret, All Pigs Must Die, Disfear, Coliseum (the last two are not crusty as such but certainly would be enjoyed by fans of the aforementioned), uh pretty much anyone signed to Southern Lord recently.
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« Reply #329 on: 05 May 2011, 15:35 »

Also expect Khar in here momentarily to recommend some REAL CRUST YOU FUCKING TRENDHOPPING ASSHOLE HIPSTERS
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #330 on: 06 May 2011, 06:40 »

Anyone know some good Crust? Stuff like Black Breath and Darkthrone?

Yeah Trap Them, Nails, Lebanon, The Secret, All Pigs Must Die, Disfear, Coliseum (the last two are not crusty as such but certainly would be enjoyed by fans of the aforementioned), uh pretty much anyone signed to Southern Lord recently.

I still haven't gotten around to that Lebanon 7". What'd you think?
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« Reply #331 on: 06 May 2011, 14:03 »

Neither have I, actually! I liked what I heard of samples on the Southern Lord site or their Myspace or whatever but I'm so, so terribly behind with new heavy music. I haven't properly listened to several of the bands on the list in my above post, actually.
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #332 on: 07 May 2011, 21:19 »

Khaaarrrr recommend me crust
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #333 on: 07 May 2011, 21:20 »

though I  will go check out the stuff you mentioned right now dovey
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #334 on: 08 May 2011, 09:15 »

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #335 on: 08 May 2011, 10:06 »

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #336 on: 08 May 2011, 10:18 »

I used to think Crass WERE crust, but it's just because crusties like Crass.

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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #337 on: 04 Aug 2011, 09:32 »

What about the Sonic Youth?
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #338 on: 08 Aug 2011, 13:08 »

Most accessible are Dirty and Rather Ripped.
Then proceed to Daydream Nation, their often considered magnum opus
From there I think you have two paths, either pre-DDN or post. I think their sound really changes in that time.
Do not listen to Goo, the band was in a bad place and they really were being pushed around by their new major label.
The Eternal is their newest and most generic, so I wouldnt really look at that.
Washing Machine is great, and the finale to it, The Diamond Sea, is probably their best song they ever recorded
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Re: Where to start?
« Reply #339 on: 30 Sep 2011, 13:31 »

I would start with Daydream Nation, really their best, maybe one of the best albums ever.
I have to contradict godspeed, Goo isn't at all bad, it has my favourite SY song Tunic (Song for Karen).
I would also recommend Sonic Nurse, and in particular the underrated A Thousand Leaves.

And check out some of their more abstract, instrumental stuff, aka the SYR series.
The latest "Simon Werner a disparu" is probably the closest they've ever come to post-rock.
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