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Re: iPad!
« Reply #150 on: 24 Feb 2010, 23:48 »

There's an additional complication with Flash, but it's rather technical. I'll see if I can explain it:

Memory in a computer can be in some combination of three states:
 * writable: values in this chunk of memory can be changed
 * readable: values in this chunk of memory can be accessed
 * executable: values in this chunk of memory can be run as part of the program

Up until recently, any of these could be combined. On modern desktop computers, however, any given chunk of memory can be writeable OR it can be executable, but not both. This prevents malicious code from modifying a program as it's running.

The iPhone (and iPad) are much stricter than this. If a page of memory is *ever* marked as writeable, it can never be marked executable again. This helps prevent some nasty types of security vulnerability, but also hurts some legitimate programs. This is where Flash comes in.

Flash uses what's called a Just-In-Time Compiler which turns the Flash code into machine code while it's running. This involves marking a page writeable, compiling the code to it, and then marking it executable... which is exactly what doesn't work on the iPhone. The workaround for this is to either a) not compile the code at all, and run in interpreted mode (which is slow), or b) compile before running like a traditional program does (which is iPhone specific, and is not done by any of the Flash on the web).

TLDR version: iPhone security requirements would force Flash to be even slower/more cpu intensive than one would expect.
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Re: iPad!
« Reply #151 on: 01 Mar 2010, 13:57 »

Heh. Guess I killed the thread.
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Re: iPad!
« Reply #152 on: 01 Mar 2010, 15:52 »

I just rely on other people to bring more reasons why I am right in, and refute everyone who disagrees. Since I was 100% OK with what Catfish said, I didnt feel the need to comment
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Re: iPad!
« Reply #153 on: 01 Mar 2010, 16:44 »

Heh. Guess I killed the thread.
Huh what I wasn't paying attention. Sorry teacher
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Re: iPad!
« Reply #154 on: 11 Apr 2010, 11:41 »

I never thought of it this way, but he has a point: iPads are the new CD-ROMS.

http://www.oblomovka.com/wp/2010/04/01/cd-roms-and-ipads/

ADDITION: For reference to anyone who's too lazy to read the article before responding to it, a) he means when CD-ROMs emerged in the early 90s, and b) he doesn't mean that in a good way.
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Re: iPad!
« Reply #155 on: 11 Apr 2010, 20:39 »

I hear it's really good for downloading comics.




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Re: iPad!
« Reply #156 on: 11 Apr 2010, 21:23 »

Even described as a bigger media device, that sounds completely and utterly idiotic.

Why would I want to carry something the size of a small monitor around to just listen to music and watch videos? That just sounds obnoxious as fuck.

People keep saying "well you're not the target audience" well who the fuck is the target audience except for morons with money and a steaming desire to look like it?

this.

i have a 2 year old hp laptop with nicer specs than a fucking ipad.
its only problem is the fact that i'm still running vista. ew.

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Re: iPad!
« Reply #157 on: 12 Apr 2010, 14:31 »

Having used a couple of them now, I can say they're rather nice. Still deciding whether I want to get one to replace my laptop during work+commute. It'd mean not coding on the bus, but who am I kidding; I barely ever actually get any work done on the bus ;)
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Re: iPad!
« Reply #158 on: 13 Apr 2010, 08:55 »

An article on the iPad made a brief mention, among other coming-soon competitors to the big stupid Apple thing, this Lenovo contraption, which is a notebook with a removable tablet/touchscreen.

That is fucking sweet, I would fucking buy that.

That being said it was also announced recently that iPhone/iPad OS4 will have multitasking. Still not great, still not worth buying an iPad over, but at least slighlty less fucking retarded.
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« Reply #159 on: 16 Apr 2010, 04:04 »

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Re: iPad!
« Reply #162 on: 23 Apr 2010, 23:38 »

I would buy this if someone ported Rollercoaster Tycoon 1 & 2.
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Re: iPad!
« Reply #163 on: 28 Apr 2010, 18:27 »

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Re: iPad!
« Reply #164 on: 29 Apr 2010, 06:58 »

Posting to state again that I can go to any porn site on the entire damn www I want using the browser that ships with every single iPhone
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Re: iPad!
« Reply #165 on: 29 Apr 2010, 07:40 »

It still baffles me that there's a porn industry. The amount of free porn out there is staggering. Seriously, you get more pictures of naked women off google than you can look through in your entire life. Torrent sites offer so much porn that the pope would start crying if he knew.

The big question is; who the fuck is stupid enough to want to buy porn apps?
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Re: iPad!
« Reply #166 on: 29 Apr 2010, 23:17 »

Posting to state again that I can go to any porn site on the entire damn www I want using the browser that ships with every single iPhone
The censored apps aren't really porn apps, which is the problem. The app in question is an app that identifies and locates hubs of gay social life in NYC, and invariably that includes things like a bar called The Cock. What Apple is censoring isn't pornography, but the promotion of the idea that sexuality is an aspect of life.

Meanwhile the random gay hookup app Grindr is still up, as is the Playboy app, as is the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit app. Apple's full of shit.
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Re: iPad!
« Reply #167 on: 30 Apr 2010, 04:14 »

This is what I'm saying! It's retarded that they are bitching about some "here is an app with a picture of a somewhat unclothed man" when I have just now googled "double penetration" and received thousands of results
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Re: iPad!
« Reply #168 on: 30 Apr 2010, 04:15 »

Hey parents, if you are worried about yr child accessing sexual content on a smartphone, maybe don't give yr child a fucking smartphone what does a fucking kid need a smartphone for fuckkk
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Re: iPad!
« Reply #169 on: 01 May 2010, 13:40 »

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Re: iPad!
« Reply #170 on: 01 May 2010, 16:50 »

That's a damn shame. Now we only have that Lenovo thing to fall back on.

{Enter super-optimistic future speculative mode}

I'm thinking of what that IdeaPad, a laptop with a removable tablet screen, would be capable of if it were to be mass-marketed. Humour me for a bit, and imagine a world where every person who uses a computer has one of these: A laptop to use at home or at work, combined with a tablet to use for mobile connectivity. For these two purposes, you can engineer the two units to work complementary. In the tablet you put wifi, bluetooth, a webcam, a flash memory drive, a microphone and a headphone jack, making it suitable for using it on the road. In the laptop dock you can then put a video card, extra RAM, an extra hard disk, a DVD drive and speakers, so you don't come anything short when you need to get to work.
Doing this gives you another use of the tablet unit, namely, a mobile desktop. Think about it: As a company, when every employee has a uh, tabtop, let's go with that, you can increase their working efficiency by providing them with a laptop dock for work. Then they can commute with the tablet, plug it in at their cubicle, and synchronize their home computer with their work computer. Documents you need to work on can be taken home by saving them on the tablet, and music you'd like to listen to at work can be taken from home the same way. You can do the same with schools or airports or where-ever. That would be cool, wouldn't it?

I'm also wondering how the problem of size could be handled. Have touchscreens that can fold been invented yet?
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Re: iPad!
« Reply #171 on: 02 May 2010, 11:13 »

The Courier ist kaput. Sadness.

HP are cancelling the Slate too.

Once again Apple are going to make a killing by managing to get a product in the stores, which somehow their rivals are incapable of.
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Re: iPad!
« Reply #172 on: 02 May 2010, 13:14 »

On my flight to Spain a few weeks ago, the dude across the aisle and one row ahead of me (ie. the seat I could see most clearly) pulled out at various points his Macbook, iPhone, and iPad. I rolled my eyes at the cheesiness of this walking Apple Store (he probably hangs around coffee shops showing off,) but I must say I got really intrigued when he used a stylus to draw stuff on his iPad.

Drawing on the touchscreen using a stylus is the primary reason I would want an iPad. Not gonna buy a $500 sketchbook, but if any other compelling uses come up then I'll be tempted.

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« Reply #173 on: 02 May 2010, 13:16 »

The Courier ist kaput. Sadness.

HP are cancelling the Slate too.

Once again Apple are going to make a killing by managing to get a product in the stores, which somehow their rivals are incapable of.

They aren't exactly killing it, they're planning on it not running Windows 7 anymore, they are looking into a mobile OS for it. Admittedly, that pretty much kills any interest I have in it, but hey.
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Re: iPad!
« Reply #174 on: 02 May 2010, 14:47 »

My bet is if it ever comes out they will probably wish they hadn't bothered.
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Re: iPad!
« Reply #175 on: 02 May 2010, 21:27 »

Wasn't W7 developed with that giant computer table thing in mind anyway? Why would that not be great for an ipad-like device?
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Re: iPad!
« Reply #176 on: 03 May 2010, 00:06 »

The giant computer table is the Surface, which is entirely ridiculous because it seems like it's just there for large companies to fuck about with. It's not really practical for much you'd use one for in the home at the moment.

And yeah, being able to draw and scribble things into the iPad would be lovely, another reason why I'd probably get fairly good use out of one. However, having said that, not buying it until it has a front facing camera, because it seems kind of silly without one, as it would basically be my mini computer for the basics. Although, with the iPhone looking like it's getting a front facing camera, it's only real benefit to me at the moment would be the larger screen.
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Re: iPad!
« Reply #177 on: 06 May 2010, 18:10 »

The iphone app division of Apple doesn't seem to be abating in its quest to be as embarrassing as possible, as the Atari Teenage Riot app is being help up due to concerns that it might cause real riots, through noise. Apple is also urging its employees to insulate their houses against chemtrails.
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Re: iPad!
« Reply #178 on: 07 May 2010, 18:41 »

I saw little reason to want an iPad until this:

http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/iCade.shtml?icpg=Carousel_iCade_1

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« Reply #179 on: 07 May 2010, 18:43 »

It's a shame that was a april fools joke
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Re: iPad!
« Reply #180 on: 07 May 2010, 18:44 »

 :x

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ADDITION: They have turned April Fool's items into actual items after enough demand:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/interactive/a5bf/

Seriously though, an iPad arcade cabinet would be a perfect addition to their lineup.
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Re: iPad!
« Reply #181 on: 06 Jun 2010, 12:52 »

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Re: iPad!
« Reply #183 on: 24 Jul 2010, 20:33 »

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Re: iPad!
« Reply #184 on: 25 Jul 2010, 09:17 »

am I the only one who would buy it?
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« Reply #185 on: 26 Jul 2010, 02:55 »

I wouldn't
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Re: iPad!
« Reply #186 on: 26 Jul 2010, 07:46 »

I bet it has flash.
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Re: iPad!
« Reply #187 on: 26 Jul 2010, 15:16 »

i have four requirements for anything like this:

1) expandable storage (sd card preferably)
2) at least one standard usb port
3) replaceable battery
4) no software required to add files from my computer

if it has these things, then i will officially pronounce it 'Better Than Ipad" and buy the hell out of it.
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« Reply #188 on: 26 Jul 2010, 19:25 »

It has multiple usb ports apparently.
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« Reply #189 on: 26 Jul 2010, 20:28 »

Honestly the "1/14 the cost of a ipad" thing sells it for me.
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Re: iPad!
« Reply #190 on: 26 Jul 2010, 20:37 »

In other news, the Millennium Digital Copyright Act or whatever it's called was amended for the year and part of it includes consumer protection against lawsuits for "jailbreaking" devices, which means that if you want to hack your Apple products to use different software configurations (or want your iphone to be compatible with providers other than AT&T) Apple has no recourse beyond voiding your warranty and denying you tech support.
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Re: iPad!
« Reply #191 on: 26 Jul 2010, 20:48 »

In other other news, this thing is apparently going to sell for $150 at K-Mart* pretty soon.

http://www.augenus.com/indexhome.html/GENTOUCH.html

7" 800x480 touchscreen (doesn't say if it's resistive or capacitive)
802.11 b/g WiFi
800 mhz processor (definitely ARM, doesn't name manufacturer)
Android 2.1 with Android Market capabilities
2 GB built in storage, can accept up to 16 gig MicroSDHC card

Is it good? Is it rubbish? Who knows! We'll have to wait a couple weeks for the reviews to come in.

* Yes apparently K-Mart still exists. I'm as surprised as you are.

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« Reply #192 on: 27 Jul 2010, 20:11 »

* Yes apparently K-Mart still exists. I'm as surprised as you are.

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