Topic: tell me about bands that could be labeled as sludge bands (Read 16669 times)

sean · « **on:** 03 Feb 2010, 11:20 »

so in this thread you guys are gonna talk to me about sludge music, i guess.

okay go!

smack that isaiah · « **Reply #1 on:** 03 Feb 2010, 11:31 »

I'm not big on labels and knowing specifically under which subgenres a band falls, but I'm pretty sure Torche would be sludge metal. And I enjoy the album of theirs which I have listened to, Meanderthal. If it's your thing, check it out

Reed · « **Reply #2 on:** 03 Feb 2010, 11:49 »

Some of Boris' work is considered sludge.

Reed · « **Reply #3 on:** 03 Feb 2010, 11:50 »

Seriously Sean, listen to some fucking Boris.

JD · « **Reply #4 on:** 03 Feb 2010, 11:50 »

Bad Actor

Reed · « **Reply #5 on:** 03 Feb 2010, 12:03 »

In all seriousness, Mastodon, Baroness and Kylesa are pretty good places to start for sludge. I'm pretty sure that you can find the majority of their albums in the mf thread.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #6 on:** 03 Feb 2010, 12:20 »

Sludge is for faggots, listen to fucking Skullflower.

sean · « **Reply #7 on:** 03 Feb 2010, 12:34 »

reed what boris albums are sludge?

SWOON! at My Gravitas · « **Reply #8 on:** 03 Feb 2010, 14:02 »

Apart from maybe Eye of the Storm, you can't really go wrong with Neurosis.

Made Out of Babies is great (I put one of their album on the mf thread a little while back).

Tombs is also good. They're more like a black metal/sludge hybrid, I guess.

Scandanavian War Machine · « **Reply #9 on:** 03 Feb 2010, 14:15 »

Quote from: sean on 03 Feb 2010, 12:34

reed what boris albums are sludge?

you should probably start with Akuma no Uta. That's the one I started with and it cemented my love for Boris for the rest of eternity even if I only enjoy around...30% of their work.

the first track is a 9 minute sludgey epic with no percussion, followed suddenly and horrifyingly by some super-fast rocking the fuck out.

a pack of wolves · « **Reply #10 on:** 03 Feb 2010, 14:47 »

Quote from: Reed on 03 Feb 2010, 12:03

In all seriousness, Mastodon, Baroness and Kylesa are pretty good places to start for sludge. I'm pretty sure that you can find the majority of their albums in the mf thread.

No! Don't muck about with bands who just have a little sludge influence (or in the case of Mastodon, very little). It's just not dirty enough, and far too wimpy if you're wanting the thick black hate that sludge delivers.

Iron Monkey do sludge with a bit of stoner riffing. Nasty as hell. Eyehategod are totally essential, smoked out destruction in that Southern way. Buzzov*en are pretty banging and one of the dead early bands. Corrupted mix it up with some horrible doom in order to crush more skulls. Noothgrush are Japanese too, and only a bit less brutalising than Corrupted.

De_El · « **Reply #11 on:** 03 Feb 2010, 15:18 »

Dudes. C'mon. Melvins.

Spluff · « **Reply #12 on:** 03 Feb 2010, 17:25 »

Yeah. Melvins.

And then, listen to some Overmars.

Quote from: a pack of wolves on 03 Feb 2010, 14:47

No! Don't muck about with bands who just have a little sludge influence (or in the case of Mastodon, very little). It's just not dirty enough, and far too wimpy if you're wanting the thick black hate that sludge delivers.

Iron Monkey do sludge with a bit of stoner riffing. Nasty as hell. Eyehategod are totally essential, smoked out destruction in that Southern way. Buzzov*en are pretty banging and one of the dead early bands. Corrupted mix it up with some horrible doom in order to crush more skulls. Noothgrush are Japanese too, and only a bit less brutalising than Corrupted.

Sludge is a pretty broad genre. It ranges from bands like Kylesa, Torche, and the like, all the way to balls to the wall traditional sludge like you've posted above, and then to the very fringes of post-metal with bands like Minsk or Giant Squid. There's also a pretty blurred line between Stoner, Doom, and Sludge, with many bands being arguably a part of more than one of those genres.

De_El · « **Reply #13 on:** 03 Feb 2010, 17:42 »

As far as somewhere-in-between sludge/stoner/doom bands go, YOB is fucking heavy as hell. Listen to YOB.

a pack of wolves · « **Reply #14 on:** 03 Feb 2010, 17:51 »

Quote from: Spluff on 03 Feb 2010, 17:25

Sludge is a pretty broad genre. It ranges from bands like Kylesa, Torche, and the like, all the way to balls to the wall traditional sludge like you've posted above, and then to the very fringes of post-metal with bands like Minsk or Giant Squid. There's also a pretty blurred line between Stoner, Doom, and Sludge, with many bands being arguably a part of more than one of those genres.

Yeah, sludge has always mixed it up with stoner rock, doom and all that. Mostly I just think Mastodon are shite, but I still reckon those sorts of bands don't really represent sludge, more stuff that's sludge influenced. I mean, I love bands like Cursed and Knut have got some sludge in there but I wouldn't recommend them as a starting point for sludge bands, even something like Snowblood might be a bit too far from the template. It's never really been that much of a cohesive genre anyway though, so it probably doesn't matter much.

And yeah, motherfucking Melvins. Get on some shit like Bullhead. Also side two of My War by Black Flag, that's kinda proto-sludge I guess and totally excellent.

KvP · « **Reply #15 on:** 03 Feb 2010, 17:53 »

I ate a YOB once, I'm pretty sure.

Spluff · « **Reply #16 on:** 03 Feb 2010, 17:59 »

Quote from: De_El on 03 Feb 2010, 17:42

As far as somewhere-in-between sludge/stoner/doom bands go, YOB is fucking heavy as hell. Listen to YOB.

You made me realize I haven't listened to YOB since 2008. I'd just completely forgotten about them.

I'm going to spin The Unreal Never Lived right now.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #17 on:** 03 Feb 2010, 18:06 »

Crowbar, Down, Corrosion of Conformity, Weedeater.

Down and CoC mix in quite a bit of southern rock influence, which I don't think is too uncommon, considering how much sludge is made in the south. Crowbar might be a bit of an acquired taste because of the singer's limited vocal range, same with Weedeater.

Khar, I assume that isn't meant as an insult, is it? I know that in a huge list of metal bands you liked that you posted at one point, Crowbar was in there, and so was Alabama Thunderpussy, even though they are more southern metal than sludge metal.

sean · « **Reply #18 on:** 03 Feb 2010, 18:20 »

so i've played all the links and so far i've dug the stuff from wills post the most. which doesn't surprise me, that shit seems to be the most 'core leaning sludge posted.

valley_parade · « **Reply #19 on:** 03 Feb 2010, 20:37 »

Teeth of Lions Rule The Divine.

It's basically Anderson/O'Malley (the Sunn 0))) dudes), with Justin Greaves from Electric Wizard on drums and Lee Dorrian on vocals. Nice and sludgy.

BrittanyMarie · « **Reply #20 on:** 03 Feb 2010, 21:07 »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlwDAx3Iii4 ???
just the song
i love the song

Lummer · « **Reply #21 on:** 04 Feb 2010, 00:48 »

Well, there's also Salome! They're cool. If anything they have the most vicious female vocalist in the known universe.
Also, there's good ol' Melvins.

I second whoever says Torche, even if it isn't a 110% sludge. "Meanderthal" is still a genius record, and their new stuff sounds very promising.
Other bands could be The Abominable Iron Sloth, Rwake and Kongh. I really like Kongh, but they're maybe more of a doom band.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #22 on:** 04 Feb 2010, 02:37 »

This obviously counts as "stoner" or "stoner doom" rather than sludge or whatever, but kiss my ass.

sean you should be listening to Sleep, like, right fucking now.

a pack of wolves · « **Reply #23 on:** 04 Feb 2010, 06:47 »

Grief will see you right, and Dystopia are much faster and generally more hardcore but they were still pretty sludgy (plus, Dead Kennedys sample!). Rwake are pretty decent.

Also, not properly sludge but you really need to be listening to Harvey Milk, Floor and Snowblood.

De_El · « **Reply #24 on:** 04 Feb 2010, 10:21 »

Seconding Sleep and Harvey Milk

sean · « **Reply #25 on:** 04 Feb 2010, 11:50 »

dovey i am not stoned right now

Scandanavian War Machine · « **Reply #26 on:** 04 Feb 2010, 12:00 »

well there's your first problem right there

Nodaisho · « **Reply #27 on:** 04 Feb 2010, 17:33 »

You can appreciate sludge without being stoned. Or stoner music without being stoned.

Don't like sleep all that much, though. Small amounts, sure, but not a full album (which means Dopesmoker is right out). Kind of like AC/DC or Motorhead in that way.

sean · « **Reply #28 on:** 04 Feb 2010, 19:51 »

i am stoned.

i am about to listen to dopesmoker, if can find it fast enough.

sean · « **Reply #29 on:** 04 Feb 2010, 20:24 »

nodashio there is no way i would listen to this sober. like, the thickness of the music doesn't get across properly to sober people.

that being said im not digging this that much.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #30 on:** 04 Feb 2010, 21:49 »

Sorry dude but you're rapidly failing music. Actually come to think of it I have never listened to Sleep stoned. My go-to in that situation is Boris Heavy Rocks, which I hope to high fucking hell that you have listened to by now, sean.

Also in the "not sludge but close enough and awesome enough to bear mention" section are Doomriders and Disappearer, both out of the incestuous Massachusetts hardcore scene that gave us Converge and Cave-In. In fact, Doomriders has Nate from Converge and Jebb from Disappearer is in Doomriders and along with Thomas Disappearer used to be in There Were Wires, and they've been produced by both Kurt from Converge and Steve Brodsky from Cave-In. Phew!

Also they both kick ass, woo.

JD · « **Reply #31 on:** 04 Feb 2010, 22:00 »

I can listen to Dopethrone sober and not be bored. (are they sludge?)

a pack of wolves · « **Reply #32 on:** 04 Feb 2010, 22:06 »

I'd say so, they've definitely got some pretty massive Iron Monkey love going on.

pinkpiche · « **Reply #33 on:** 05 Feb 2010, 04:37 »

Are we gonna talk crust too?

sean · « **Reply #34 on:** 05 Feb 2010, 06:24 »

i mean we totally can but i'm already into crust.

i will give dopesmoker a full listen some point today hopefully, i only got a few minutes into it last night.

Damnable Fiend · « **Reply #35 on:** 05 Feb 2010, 18:08 »

some of khanate's music sounds kind of sludgy to me.

pinkpiche · « **Reply #36 on:** 08 Feb 2010, 03:34 »

I like that this genre-label does everything it's supposed to do. It gives a good feeling of how the music sounds, especially if it's coupled with -metal, and sludge is totally dirty like the music.

valley_parade · « **Reply #37 on:** 08 Feb 2010, 08:50 »

Quote from: David_Dovey on 04 Feb 2010, 21:49

Sorry dude but you're rapidly failing music. Actually come to think of it I have never listened to Sleep stoned. My go-to in that situation is Boris Heavy Rocks, which I hope to high fucking hell that you have listened to by now, sean.

Also in the "not sludge but close enough and awesome enough to bear mention" section are Doomriders and Disappearer, both out of the incestuous Massachusetts hardcore scene that gave us Converge and Cave-In. In fact, Doomriders has Nate from Converge and Jebb from Disappearer is in Doomriders and along with Thomas Disappearer used to be in There Were Wires, and they've been produced by both Kurt from Converge and Steve Brodsky from Cave-In. Phew!

Also they both kick ass, woo.

Fuck yes, Doomriders.

onewheelwizzard · « **Reply #38 on:** 08 Feb 2010, 12:43 »

+1 to:
EyeHateGod
YOB
Sleep
Boris
Disappearer
Neurosis

Other notables:
Zoroaster
5ive
Acid King
Bongripper

a pack of wolves · « **Reply #39 on:** 08 Feb 2010, 20:22 »

Man, not thought about 5ive in years. Bit disappointing live but this song is pretty nifty. Although after listening to it I get a definite feeling of "that's enough 5ive for a bit", which might explain why it's been years since I last heard them.

I was having trouble finding a link for them before, but Hydra Head led me to Cavity's myspace. More of that thudding like a lead pipe to the skull.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #40 on:** 08 Feb 2010, 20:27 »

I have avoided 5ive for years just because I can't stand their name, which is probably quite rich for a dude who likes bands named after most bodily excretions.

a pack of wolves · « **Reply #41 on:** 08 Feb 2010, 20:52 »

No, I see where you're coming from. At least when you're listening to Noxious Coitus or something you can be sure nobody will get confused and think you're referring to a late-'90s boyband.

Ernest · « **Reply #42 on:** 04 Mar 2010, 21:13 »

I'd like to second Eyehategod: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCPv8ZLTNtQ

elizaknowswhatshesfor · « **Reply #43 on:** 06 Mar 2010, 04:42 »

In an Iron Monkey/Noothgrush worship vein I would like to suggest:

http://www.myspace.com/molochscum Moloch.

&

http://www.myspace.com/thedeadinthewoods Dead in The Woods.

I'm not going to get into a sludge or not sludge,(Mainly because my ex, on another forum, in a thread about sludge offended my very soul by saying that Iron Monkey weren't very good & Back Flag were overrated & the 2nd side of My War had nothing to do with sludge, I'm glad we broke up now. He also didn't like Star Wars. Bah!) but these bands kick ass. (& share members & make good cake & are mostly super nice guys.)

Mr. Doctor · « **Reply #44 on:** 14 Mar 2010, 07:53 »

Guys C'mon... What about Acid Bath? It surprises me that they are not even mentioned since they played some great sludge that together with Eyehategod in the same state of Louisiana made sludge big.

When the Kite String Pops is a MUST

Here are some examples:
The Blue
Jezebel
Dr. Seuss Is Dead

a pack of wolves · « **Reply #45 on:** 14 Mar 2010, 15:53 »

Acid Bath are kinda fun, but they've got too much of the southern rock in there for me to ever think of them as a top sludge pick. They'd be a great starting point for anyone massively into stoner rock and wanting something harsher though.

Quote from: elizaknowswhatshesfor on 06 Mar 2010, 04:42

http://www.myspace.com/molochscum Moloch.

Fully backed. They were great with Closure.

Spluff · « **Reply #46 on:** 14 Mar 2010, 19:20 »

Acid Bath are kind of like a sludge band doing covers of Monster Magnet.

Mr. Doctor · « **Reply #47 on:** 15 Mar 2010, 00:48 »

I believe that Acid Bath are a perfect example of sludge metal with a bit of nice flavours and I obviously see them as a top pick. The southern rock influences just make the music richer. On the other hand I fail to see any Monster Magnet in their music except in the second album but the debut it's more in the sludge side, God... Just listen to Dr. Seuss is Dead. Unless people like the sludge vocals to be just completely lame with a guy with a throat problem a la Eyehategod. Don't take it wrong, I love Eyehategod but it feels like everyone is doing the same thing after them.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #48 on:** 15 Mar 2010, 01:38 »

That's not at all true. Now people are just copying... whatever band started the prog-sludge trend that Baroness, Mastodon, and a bunch of other bands I can't remember off the top of my head are doing. Was it Neurosis?

Acid bath isn't really a straightforward sludge band, I like them, but they aren't wholly sludge. Then again, neither are a lot of the ones I'm seeing recommended. I could be biased, though, I tend to think of sludge as what happens when black flag meet black sabbath in Louisiana, so it would take a whole lot more southern rock influence to make me think of something as not sludge than it appears to for wolves.

Mr. Doctor · « **Reply #49 on:** 15 Mar 2010, 04:14 »

Well, by the way you put it, I do take back what I said about Acid Bath being a "perfect" example of sludge, but I would still highly recommend it if someone wants to get into sludge and after a whole page I was surprised that they weren't mentioned since it's not like they are so not-sludge or underground.

I also agree with Nodaisho that it takes a huge load of southern rock influence to make a sludge band less sludge because almost every sludge band has southern rock in their music to some degree imo

But Yeah, we shouldn't discuss to much about the subject. Neurosis is amazing, one of my favorite bands ever mkay... Through Silver In Blood is... brilliant.

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Author Topic: tell me about bands that could be labeled as sludge bands (Read 16669 times)