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E3 2010 M-M-M-Megathread
« on: 11 Jun 2010, 15:09 »

So, for those of you who don't know: the Electronic Entertainment Expo is a yearly convention held in Los Angeles that is pretty much the biggest single event in gaming. All three platform makers and most major publishers have a press conference where they announce their new games and talk smack about each other. Then there's the show floor, where developers give demos to the press of all these shiny new games, give interviews, all that good stuff. Occasionally a guy with an extremely fake tan talks in absolutely absurd marketing speak about games for tween girls for about 20 minutes, it's great. Anyway, it's going on pretty much all next week, so this is the thread to talk about all the crazy shit that's going down!

First, some stuff that got announced before the show:

Harmonix finally announced Rock Band 3, a game pretty much everyone knew existed already. It's got a keyboard peripheral, a crazy new guitar controller, a pro mode that's supposed to actually teach you music, and a whole bunch of other crazy shit
Activision announced Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock, because it's Activision and everything is annual whether you want it or not. It's got... a story-based 'quest mode' narrated by Gene Simmons. Yeah. They also announced DJ Hero 2, but honestly, who the fuck cares?
Sega is doing what they do best and milking nostalgia from the era when they actually made good video games through releasing a bunch of their old Dreamcast games through downloadable services. Sonic Adventure and Crazy Taxi are the only two announced so far, but you can fucking bet Sega will ride this train as far as it will go.
WB announced a new Mortal Kombat reboot (simply titled Mortal Kombat), and it actually doesn't look like garbage. If you're one of the few thousand people on Earth who cares about non-Capcom fighting games, then that's cool I guess.
Atlus is continuing their quirky indie publishing deals and putting out the sequel to last year's Lost-Vikings-esque platformer Trine, as well as the next game from Ace Team, aka the dudes who made Zeno Clash. It's called "Rock of Ages", so I can only assume that it's a 4 player Def Leppard simulator. I call the one-armed drummer in advance. But more importantly, they're bringing Etrian Odyssey 3 to the US, so I get another brutally hard dungeon crawler with bitchin' Yuzo Koshiro music. I'm pretty happy about that.
Square-Enix announced a 4-player sidescrolling action game with goofy character designs and an even goofier title, Necromachina. It looks pretty much like co-op Strider, so I'm down.
Square-Enix also announced Dungeon Siege 3, which is being developed by Obsidian. It's... not exactly what Obsidian typically makes, but hey. They're continuing to get work, so I'm OK with that.
Some stupid Kingdom Hearts PSP game is coming to the US, I guess. Kingdom Hearts sucks and you're a bad person if you like it.
2K finally gave Civilization 5 a proper release date: it's coming out September 24th. Sorry for everyone who believed that September 1st date was anything more than a placeholder, but you only have to wait another 3 weeks.
THQ announced Red Faction: Armageddon, where you will play as the grandson of the main characters from Guerrilla. It takes place back underground this time, and apparently miners fuck up and release some aliens that were dormant in the depths of Mars. Getting a very strong Aliens vibe from that trailer, it could be cool.
Sony announced Killzone 3, and it will utilize the advanced 3D technology that .01% of the market has the TVs to support! Way to use that 70 million dollar budget on things that create a better user experience, dudes.
They also announced Infamous 2, so more electric superhero open world shenanigans coming soon. We'll see if Activision announces a Prototype sequel that will come out a month apart so they can be constantly compared to each other again.
Twisted Pixel announced that their new game Comic Jumper will come with DLC for their last game, the excellent but frustrating 'Splosion Man, packed in for free. Pretty nice bonus for their existing fans.
And finally, games that we don't know anything new about (yet) but have new trailers that I'm going to dump in here anyway: Deus Ex 3, Vanquish (what), Crysis 2 (whaaaaat), and X-COM.

OK, so now what we can expect to see:

Release dates and game lineups for both Project Natal (rumored to be renamed to the Wave) and Playstation Move. Blatant ripoffs of Nintendo's innovation or actually making good on motion controls in actual games? You decide!
Official unveiling of the 3DS, possibly a release date for that as well. Maybe some Nintendo launch games, maybe only tech demos, it's impossible to say.
Probably an official announcement of the Wii Zelda game that has been acknowledged at Nintendo as being in development since forever ago.
Something crazy from Valve. They canceled their Portal-themed event but said that something will be replacing it. Portal 2's been pushed back to absolutely no one's surprise and Newell said that card thing with the stealth G-Man face was fake, so who the fuck knows? It'll probably be pretty good though!
An announcement of the multiplatform Insomniac game from EA. It was a big deal for both of them a few weeks ago so I'm sure they'll talk more about it at E3.
For that matter, I'd expect to hear more about the Activision-Bungie partnership too. I think Activision only announced that before the show in the first place because their stock price was tanking after all the Infinity Ward shit blew up.
A release date and hopefully more details about Fallout: New Vegas. It's still apparently on track for this fall, so if it doesn't get a firm date by E3 that's officially time to start worrying.

And finally, for the leaks and/or rumors:

If Gamespot's floor plan of the convention center is to be believed, EA will be announcing both Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age 2 at the show. Hardly a stretch, since both of those games are more or less open secrets anyway, but hey. If they're really announcing ME3 already, maybe they'll finally clear up exactly what those job listings for multiplayer designers were all about.
All kinds of crazy rumors about the 3DS hardware specs. Does it have a tilt sensor? Does it have an analog stick? Depending on who you believe, the processing power is either around the same level as the Gamecube or 'just below the 360 and PS3'. If the latter is true, it marks a huge shift from Nintendo's usual policy of releasing low-cost hardware for cheap and making a profit right away instead of eating losses up front like MS and Sony do.
Speaking of which, since Sony is finally pulling a 'rats fleeing the sinking ship' on the PSP hardware and giving a ton of free games to anyone who will take the hardware off their hands, it's rumored that they're preparing to announce a PSP2 as counterprogramming to the 3DS. However, since the PSP Go failed so spectacularly I'm wondering if that put the kibosh on their plans to make a digital-only follow up.
Gametrailers TV is running their traditional pre-E3 special tonight at 11 o'clock on Spike and they promise several 'exclusive' reveals. They specifically mention one of gaming's legends 'finally' announcing his project, which I'm betting is the Ken Levine project that has been mired in shadow for years.
Sony is supposedly going to unveil an entire 3D initiative that nobody will care about. What other games will support it beyond Killzone 3 are anyone's guess.
Rumors of an Uncharted 3 announcement are pretty persistent as well. Considering Sony kind of blew their first-party game load early in the year, it wouldn't surprise me.
Also, a Resistance 3 billboard showed up on a movie set forever ago, so it'd be pretty surprising if Sony didn't have anything to say about it now. This will hopefully be the show where they finally get Team Ico to say something about Last Guardian as well, although people thought that about E3 last year and all we got was a rehashed version of the same trailer they announced it with.
This is even more tenuous than most of the rumors here, but I've seen a couple people on message boards talking about having an 'inside source' telling them of a Persona 5 announcement. It seems out of character for Atlus to announce a SMT game at an American show, but the series (and especially Persona) is getting more popular over here all the time so I guess it's not out of the question.

Thaaaat's just about all I can think of from a quick scan of the blogs. Anybody have other news or rumors that I forgot about? Anything you'd like to see happen, big or small? There'll be more to actually discuss once the show starts, but I figured it'd be fun to speculate for a bit before the actual conference starts rolling.
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Re: E3 2010 M-M-M-Megathread
« Reply #1 on: 11 Jun 2010, 15:51 »

they're totally covering this thing tonight on spike (i think), but I have some inconvenient plans to hang out with.....friends.....tonight so I'm gonna have to miss it.

I'm sure the internet can catch me up on Monday.
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Re: E3 2010 M-M-M-Megathread
« Reply #2 on: 11 Jun 2010, 16:16 »

Crysis 2 (whaaaaat)

Wait, do people have the hardware to even play the first one yet? I kid! Kinda. And yeah, I realize that it's more or less the same engine regardless.
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« Reply #3 on: 11 Jun 2010, 17:02 »

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« Reply #4 on: 11 Jun 2010, 17:10 »

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« Reply #5 on: 11 Jun 2010, 17:14 »

I guess Valve is doing something. Or maybe not.
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« Reply #6 on: 11 Jun 2010, 19:13 »

I can't wait for all the games announced and the opinions on every site

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« Reply #7 on: 11 Jun 2010, 20:41 »

Crysis 2 (whaaaaat)

Wait, do people have the hardware to even play the first one yet? I kid! Kinda. And yeah, I realize that it's more or less the same engine regardless.

The crazy part is: that's the 360 version. Or at least, that's the version Crytek has been showing to the press at every event up until now. I dunno what kind of fucking wizards they have at Crytek's tech department, but if putting out a game that looks that good on consoles finally breaks up the UE3 monolith then I'm all for it.
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« Reply #8 on: 11 Jun 2010, 21:02 »

Wait, what?

I didn't read any background material when I clicked on that posted link, so I was actually thinking "It kills me how they always use primo hardware for these demos," as I watched. I was feeling all surly about it and everything. I mean, I know we have PCs that can handle that now but in the era of console ports I feel pretty justified about my skepticism.

[EDIT]

I just watched it again and I noticed a fair bit of pop in that I didn't catch on the first viewing, so it seems a lot more plausible to me now, even if it was nowhere as bad as the worst UE3 stuff I've seen. The fact that I had to look for it at all should be seen as a compliment. I know that Crytek has claimed that they've been optimizing like mad since Crysis, but I usually consider that sort of thing to at least be half marketing speak. I would love to come away from this impressed.

[EDIT AGAIN] I forgot about the whole Cryengine 3 deal. Oops.
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Re: E3 2010 M-M-M-Megathread
« Reply #9 on: 11 Jun 2010, 21:29 »

I guess I don't know for sure, but I do know that according to every preview I've read, Crysis has been using the 360 version for all press demos so far.
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« Reply #10 on: 11 Jun 2010, 22:28 »

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« Reply #11 on: 11 Jun 2010, 23:01 »

Crysis 2 (whaaaaat)

Wait, do people have the hardware to even play the first one yet? I kid! Kinda. And yeah, I realize that it's more or less the same engine regardless.

Actually, that's kind of the point. They appear to have scaled back the graphics and the physics for the third CryEngine so it can run on consoles. I'd assume the non-jungle setting helps with the performance, as well.
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« Reply #12 on: 11 Jun 2010, 23:07 »

Well, one of my guesses was off. The 'gaming legend' reveal from Gametrailers turned out to be Itagaki's new game, called 'Devil's Third'. It looks like another Japanese response to Gears, but with more focus on flashy melee disarms/kills and less balls-out Japanese brand crazy than Vanquish. It's being published by THQ in their first attempt to co-opt the EA Partners business model. Gameplay wise the trailer looked pretty much like you'd expect from an Itagaki-made third person shooter, but the graphical style was a lot grittier than Dead or Alive or even Ninja Gaiden, for what that's worth.
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« Reply #13 on: 12 Jun 2010, 13:52 »

Square-Enix also announced Dungeon Siege 3, which is being developed by Obsidian. It's... not exactly what Obsidian typically makes, but hey. They're continuing to get work, so I'm OK with that.

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« Reply #14 on: 12 Jun 2010, 13:57 »

The team behind DS3 made Mask of the Betrayer, and I've only heard good things internally, from people who aren't shy about calling out bad ideas. It's coming along pretty well, apparently. There will be a behind-closed-doors demo at E3.
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« Reply #15 on: 12 Jun 2010, 14:10 »

Well Mask of the Betrayer is still the best game Obsidian's made to date, so I'm willing to be convinced. I hope that they can hammer what Obsidian's actually good at into the Dungeon Siege framework, though.
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« Reply #16 on: 13 Jun 2010, 02:14 »

Now that there are wizards everywhere in the industry, the screens of Crytek work don't really have the wowee-zowee factor they had a couple years ago. In fact, reading an article on Crysis 2 I yawned and turned the page. Still, visuals aside I'm prepared to check out what they're trying to offer in terms of the rest of Crysis 2.

I once heard rumours of a ninja announcement for Battlefront 3, but I suppose that was wishful thinking, huh.
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« Reply #17 on: 13 Jun 2010, 12:01 »

I'll be happy if Valve talks about any of these:

Half Life 2 Episode 3
Team Fortress 2 Engineer Update
Left 4 Dead 1 DLC
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« Reply #18 on: 13 Jun 2010, 16:54 »

I highly doubt there's gonna be any Left 4 dead 1 DLC on the horizon from them.
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« Reply #19 on: 13 Jun 2010, 17:01 »

There is the Passing DLC for Left 4 Dead 1

Well, one of my guesses was off. The 'gaming legend' reveal from Gametrailers turned out to be Itagaki's new game, called 'Devil's Third'. It looks like another Japanese response to Gears, but with more focus on flashy melee disarms/kills and less balls-out Japanese brand crazy than Vanquish. It's being published by THQ in their first attempt to co-opt the EA Partners business model. Gameplay wise the trailer looked pretty much like you'd expect from an Itagaki-made third person shooter, but the graphical style was a lot grittier than Dead or Alive or even Ninja Gaiden, for what that's worth.

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Re: E3 2010 M-M-M-Megathread
« Reply #20 on: 13 Jun 2010, 18:53 »

I highly doubt there's gonna be any Left 4 dead 1 DLC on the horizon from them.
Maybe Left for Dead 3?
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« Reply #21 on: 13 Jun 2010, 18:57 »

Now that would make many people angry.
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« Reply #22 on: 13 Jun 2010, 19:17 »

Left 4 Dead 1 DLC


Maybe you should just buy L4D2?
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« Reply #23 on: 13 Jun 2010, 19:21 »

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« Reply #24 on: 13 Jun 2010, 20:17 »

Maybe you should just buy L4D2?

I preordered it.

Rumor has it they're making a L4D1 add-on campaign to explain how Zoey, Francis, Louis, and Bill wound up in the deep south.
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/02/11/l4d2-the-passing-dlc-in-march-l4d1-tie-in-dlc-to-follow/

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« Reply #25 on: 13 Jun 2010, 20:35 »

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« Reply #26 on: 13 Jun 2010, 22:05 »

I'm a big fan of the Dungeon Siege series (although I haven't beaten DS2 on account of it being way too freaking long for a simple hack n slash game), and I like Obsidian since it has a lot of the guys that made Planescape: Torment and Baldur's Gate 2 so their games tend to have stuff that I really like.  I'm looking forward to it!

I've got a gut feeling that Portal 2 is going to be mind blowing and awesome enough for Valve to just give away Portal 1 for free like they did, recently.

As for BioWare probably going to announce ME3 or DA2...  Jeez, slow down, people!  I'm a huge fan of your games, you Canadians, and I buy them opening day.  It seems like yesterday I put down 120 bucks for ME3 and DA2, so can you pace yourselves a bit?
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« Reply #27 on: 13 Jun 2010, 22:08 »

Fuck that.

I mean, DA came out last November. For those of us who don't buy every damn sequel that comes down the pike it's more than enough time between announcements. I probably buy less than 4 titles a year.
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« Reply #28 on: 13 Jun 2010, 22:14 »

Fair enough.

ME1 and DA were announced several years before they were released, anyway.  I'm just thinking with EA pressuring them it's going to come out way too soon.

Oh, and I forgot to comment on KZ3.  3D aside, I think it'll be very good.  KZ2 is the best console shooter I've ever played, and that's without split screen.  KZ3, apparently, is going to boast fully (probably more like: fully enough) destructible environment and will run at 60 fps.  If it keeps the same amount of gameplay and graphical polish KZ2 has, I'm all for it.
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« Reply #29 on: 14 Jun 2010, 12:13 »

Well, MS's presentation was boring, pointless, and lame.

Highlights:

  • Fable 3, Oct. 26
  • New 360 model, $300, 250GB HDD, built in wireless, out this week
  • Project Natal is now Kinect, looks even more like a cheap attempt to grab Wii users, adds voice control, launches Nov. 4
  • ESPN will be streaming to XBL
  • Timed CoD DLC exclusivity on 360 continues with Black Ops

I was hoping so hard for Hulu streaming.

Dammit.
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« Reply #30 on: 14 Jun 2010, 12:14 »

Hulu's gonna make you start paying for them anyway, might as well stick with netflix
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« Reply #31 on: 14 Jun 2010, 12:16 »

I have Netflix and I would pay for Hulu. It fills a niche Netflix doesn't: watching what was on this week rather than 2 years ago.
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« Reply #32 on: 14 Jun 2010, 12:24 »

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Re: E3 2010 M-M-M-Megathread
« Reply #33 on: 14 Jun 2010, 12:28 »

Wait, how do they go about charging money for a free service? 



Also oh my god Fable 3.  I know next to nothing about it and I'm already excited.  And the Star Wars Kinect game looks kind of cool.
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« Reply #34 on: 14 Jun 2010, 12:34 »

All I want is for Eidos/Squeenix to show off Hitman 5 which I'm pretty certain is not going to happen.

That and Deus Ex 3.

Also I'd be super OK with more Civilization V being shown off.
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Re: E3 2010 M-M-M-Megathread
« Reply #35 on: 14 Jun 2010, 12:47 »

Wait, how do they go about charging money for a free service? 

By making it not free anymore? http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65760K20100609



also yeah i am trying to limit my intake of fable 3 propaganda because that's how i've enjoyed the last 2 games. a lot of people complain they don't live up to the hype so i just pay no attention to the hype and enjoy great games.
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« Reply #36 on: 14 Jun 2010, 13:18 »

also yeah i am trying to limit my intake of fable 3 propaganda because that's how i've enjoyed the last 2 games. a lot of people complain they don't live up to the hype so i just pay no attention to the hype and enjoy great games.



This exactly. I preordered this awhile go, because I've loved the last two so much.

Also,

Well, MS's presentation was boring, pointless, and lame.

Highlights:

  • New 360 model, $300, 250GB HDD, built in wireless, out this week


About fucking time. Shit.
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« Reply #37 on: 14 Jun 2010, 13:35 »

hey if you want to throw away money i won't stop you

Well I mean, I have three options:

1) Pay for Hulu
2) Pay for cable
3) Pirate

Qwest has got on my ass a metric fuckton for piracy, so that's out. I hate paying $50 a month for 80 channels of nothing I'm going to watch, so that's out. I'm totally willing to pay $10 a month for recent TV on demand. Hulu it is.
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« Reply #38 on: 14 Jun 2010, 13:47 »

there are some shows that are going straight to netflix already. now i guess it is still a problem. but i mean i don't really watch tv besides netflix instant so i guess i'm not the right guy to ask
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« Reply #39 on: 14 Jun 2010, 15:31 »

EA's presentation!

Highlights:

  • Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit, Nov. 16, looks great
  • Dead Space 2, Jan. 25, also looks bloody fantastic. If the first one was RE4, this one looks like what RE5 should've been.
  • Medal of Honor, Oct. 12, June 21 multi beta starts, definitely targeting the Modern Warfare market
  • Battlefield: BC2 Vietnam expansion announced
  • EA sports crap
  • Sims blah blah blah console release
  • Crysis 2, 3D, pretty, Holiday 2010
  • Bulletstorm, Feb. 22, looks wicked fun, very much a Cliffy B game
  • New SW:TOR trailer

Other, non-EA thing:

New Metroidvania coming for XBLA.
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« Reply #40 on: 14 Jun 2010, 15:54 »

over saturation of the war game markeeeeeettttttt
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« Reply #41 on: 14 Jun 2010, 16:04 »

Because it wasn't saturated enough already!

SW: TOR could theoretically make me play an MMO...if I could afford it. I would much prefer KOTOR III.

Also a full release of the storyline and some statistics for all the spaceship classes so the RTS mod I am running actually makes sense in the Old Republic period.
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« Reply #43 on: 14 Jun 2010, 18:44 »

Also I'd be super OK with more Civilization V being shown off.

This. I'm pretty much incapable of getting truly excited about Civ, but somehow that doesn't stop me from sinking a few hundred hours of my life on each one that comes out. So I'm curious.
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« Reply #44 on: 14 Jun 2010, 21:28 »

Wait, how do they go about charging money for a free service? 

Ask the Wall Street Journal
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« Reply #45 on: 15 Jun 2010, 05:22 »

Also I'd be super OK with more Civilization V being shown off.

This. I'm pretty much incapable of getting truly excited about Civ, but somehow that doesn't stop me from sinking a few hundred hours of my life on each one that comes out. So I'm curious.

I am a bit of a stat nerd, so it makes me a little happy that I have things like Raptr and Steam to keep track of my game time (even if it is a little depressing) but I am mortified to think of how much I've played Civ IV since only about 230 hours of Beyond the Sword are logged in Steam and I played the game a lot more for the years I got it before I purchased it digitally.
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« Reply #46 on: 15 Jun 2010, 10:42 »

woaw, nintendo is making "goldeneye" revamped!
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« Reply #47 on: 15 Jun 2010, 10:48 »

Awesome, a name and video for the new Zelda
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« Reply #48 on: 15 Jun 2010, 10:54 »

So, uh. I can't so a highlights thing of Nintendo's show because I don't have 7 hours to talk about how fucking incredible it was.
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« Reply #49 on: 15 Jun 2010, 11:13 »

Maybe I'll do it in a few minutes, but overall: holy goddamn, Nintendo knocked it out of the park. It's like some kind of bizarro world from 2 years ago, where Microsoft pissed away an hour and a half on gimmicky bullshit and Nintendo showed a ton of awesome looking games.
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