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Author Topic: The MC5 are better than The Stooges.  (Read 9051 times)

Thrillho

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The MC5 are better than The Stooges.
« on: 07 Jul 2010, 08:11 »
Or so I reckon. Each had three albums (well the third Stooges album only sort of counts depending on how you see it), they were Chicago peers and I reckon that although the Stooges have a greater influence, the MC5 were the better band and have the stronger catalogue.

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Re: The MC5 are better than The Stooges.
« Reply #1 on: 07 Jul 2010, 08:31 »
No, sorry, you're wrong. Next thread please.
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Re: The MC5 are better than The Stooges.
« Reply #2 on: 07 Jul 2010, 09:04 »
I hold my hand up, I made a mistake - I always seem to remember them as Chicago for some reason. Fuck knows why especially since they're the shitting Motor City Five.

No going back now, mind.

I stand by what I said about the music, though.

And I was aiming for discussion, not just votes.
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Re: The MC5 are better than The Stooges.
« Reply #3 on: 07 Jul 2010, 09:07 »
Quote from: KharBevNor on 07 Jul 2010, 08:31
No, sorry, you're wrong. Next thread please.

I vote this
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Re: The MC5 are better than The Stooges.
« Reply #4 on: 07 Jul 2010, 09:38 »
the stooges' dad could totally beat up the mc5's dad
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Re: The MC5 are better than The Stooges.
« Reply #5 on: 07 Jul 2010, 09:42 »
I've got to admit, I'm in the MC5 camp.
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Re: The MC5 are better than The Stooges.
« Reply #6 on: 07 Jul 2010, 10:02 »
I'll grant you the MC5's rhythm section is pretty solid, but without Iggy I don't even know why we're bothering to compare them. Rob Tyner's got nothing on him.
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Re: The MC5 are better than The Stooges.
« Reply #7 on: 07 Jul 2010, 10:08 »
See, The Stooges have the best frontman, but I think the MC5 have the best literally everything else. Both their guitarists were great IMO, and their rhythm section was great. I also think they just had plain ol' better material.
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Re: The MC5 are better than The Stooges.
« Reply #8 on: 07 Jul 2010, 10:18 »
Quote from: DynamiteKid on 07 Jul 2010, 08:11
. Each had three albums (well the third Stooges album only sort of counts depending on how you see it),
Raw Power?

This is the real WTF comment, for me. Doesn't everyone love "Shake Appeal"? "Gimme Danger"? I like Raw Power every bit as much as the s/t.
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Re: The MC5 are better than The Stooges.
« Reply #9 on: 07 Jul 2010, 10:19 »
I like more songs by The Stooges

But the MC5 songs that I do like, I like more than most of those Stooges songs.


I guess that leaves me somewhere in the middle?
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Re: The MC5 are better than The Stooges.
« Reply #10 on: 07 Jul 2010, 10:24 »
Quote from: ThePianoMan on 07 Jul 2010, 10:18
Quote from: DynamiteKid on 07 Jul 2010, 08:11
. Each had three albums (well the third Stooges album only sort of counts depending on how you see it),
Raw Power?

This is the real WTF comment, for me. Doesn't everyone love "Shake Appeal"? "Gimme Danger"? I like Raw Power every bit as much as the s/t.

Some people don't count it as the same band because of the line-up change and because Ron hated it. When they were touring before Ron died Iggy apparently promised Ron they'd not play anything from Raw Power for that reason.
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Re: The MC5 are better than The Stooges.
« Reply #11 on: 07 Jul 2010, 11:51 »
I guess the thing is I'd have to actually listen to the MC5 more in order to decide definitively why I don't like them as much as the Stooges, but that'd be sort of self-defeating, you know? They bore me in a way that the Stooges never do. Maybe it's the mixing or something, I dunno. I can hear that their guitarists are good at what they're doing and their drummer is fine, but it just doesn't hold my attention. Is that just me being jaded?
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Re: The MC5 are better than The Stooges.
« Reply #12 on: 07 Jul 2010, 12:31 »
I'm all about groove oriented music, so between that and the frontman in my heart of hearts it's not even really a contest.
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Re: The MC5 are better than The Stooges.
« Reply #13 on: 07 Jul 2010, 20:47 »
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Re: The MC5 are better than The Stooges.
« Reply #14 on: 07 Jul 2010, 20:50 »
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Re: The MC5 are better than The Stooges.
« Reply #15 on: 08 Jul 2010, 03:41 »
I freely admit that Funhouse could kinda kill my argument, seeing as even if I disagree with tommy that it might be the best rock album ever, it's certainly top ten or maybe even top five.

The ridiculous posturing of the MC5 was half of the fun, again as tommy said. I never for a second thought that any of their political rhetoric made any kind of sense, but I never felt like that was the point of it anyway.

I don't think the MC5 totally failed in a recording environment, though. Witness the '68 single release of 'Looking At You,' where they just overload every single mic at once in a blast of thrilling noise. I also think the Sun-ish production on Back In The USA, while bizarre and possibly flawed, makes it a fascinating listen.

However, I for one don't rate the first Stooges record that much. It's got a handful of standout songs which are great, but at the end of the day they didn't have the songs so they kill time with 'We Will Fall,' which I skip literally every time I listen to the album.
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