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Re: Dragon Age 2: Fuckin' Bitches, Stabbin' Dragons
« Reply #150 on: 20 Dec 2010, 16:46 »

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« Reply #151 on: 20 Dec 2010, 16:59 »

awww someone was proud of himself huh
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« Reply #152 on: 20 Dec 2010, 23:04 »

That's not the problem.  All the stuff is already on the second disc, but instead of going straight into it you have to download everything on the disc to your hard drive to play it.  At least you get to choose what you want to download instead of all of it together.

Welcome to the new DRM, same as the old DRM
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« Reply #153 on: 08 Jan 2011, 23:47 »

So they've announced that they're replacing the influence meter with one that goes from "rival" to "friend" instead of "hate" to "love". The practical effect is that no matter how much you fuck with your party members they are 100% loyal.

Really I'm just excited that we might see this scene reenacted  8-)

Also hey this comes out in like two months.
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« Reply #154 on: 09 Jan 2011, 00:31 »

Ordering this weekend nets you the first slice of companion dlc.
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Re: Dragon Age 2: Fuckin' Bitches, Stabbin' Dragons
« Reply #155 on: 09 Jan 2011, 00:34 »

So my computer can't run this and I am considering the Xbox version.  But I dunno.  I really liked the PC version.

There also is a preorder thing going on where you can get an upgraded edition but I don't know that much about what is going on with different editions and preorder bonus stuff.  Has anyone heard anything about this?

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B003UFAZKW/ref=nosim/cheapassgam08-20

(Apparently this is what Tom is talking about)
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« Reply #156 on: 09 Jan 2011, 00:44 »

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Re: Dragon Age 2: Fuckin' Bitches, Stabbin' Dragons
« Reply #157 on: 09 Jan 2011, 01:09 »

From what I know basically until the 11th of January they are offering the Signature Edition at the same price as the regular edition which includes extra weapons and that DLC Tom was talking about. Then after the 11th the Signature Edition apparently becomes unavailable and you'll have to pay for the DLC (but not the weapons as far as I can tell) on top of the regular edition of the game if you want it.
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Re: Dragon Age 2: Fuckin' Bitches, Stabbin' Dragons
« Reply #158 on: 09 Jan 2011, 03:54 »

Pretty much. I asked for DA:2 for christmas though, so I should be fine.

And the prince guy is voiced by a bloke who played Paul Atreidies in the Dune miniseries. I am personally wondering how the "rivallry" system is going to work, it seems to be an interesting idea and I am looking forward to seeing it.
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Re: Dragon Age 2: Fuckin' Bitches, Stabbin' Dragons
« Reply #159 on: 09 Jan 2011, 10:45 »

Spoilers: Having someone as a "rival" just means you can still have sex with them but it'll be a hatefuck.
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Re: Dragon Age 2: Fuckin' Bitches, Stabbin' Dragons
« Reply #160 on: 09 Jan 2011, 11:19 »

based on the renegade shep/jack cutscene in ME2 i think hatefuck's what bioware's been building to this whole time?
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« Reply #161 on: 09 Jan 2011, 11:24 »

I always kinda preferred the term grudgefuck. I think it's the assonance.
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Re: Dragon Age 2: Fuckin' Bitches, Stabbin' Dragons
« Reply #162 on: 09 Jan 2011, 18:08 »

Man.

I wish I could what the text looks like on my crappy SD screen

That is the other see thing I have to consider.  I mean playing sitting in my chair will be kick ass but if I can't read the damned text then I am totally screwed if I preorder the 360 version.
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« Reply #163 on: 10 Jan 2011, 02:27 »

Well there ARE going to be symbols that tell you what sort of thing you are saying at the centre of the convo wheel.

I intend to play my Lady!Hawke as chaste, so I am wondering what is going to happen when I inevitably end up with at least one rival that I don't want to fuck.
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Re: Dragon Age 2: Fuckin' Bitches, Stabbin' Dragons
« Reply #164 on: 10 Jan 2011, 14:43 »

Man

How is it that I am more excited about TESV than this.

Here's a screencap of Merrill, who you might (heh) remember as a character in DA:O's skeletally thin Dalish origin (the Bioware line's been that the Dalish part of the first game was so scant because they were saving it for DA2)



That is the elven body build for DA2. She's also the first available love interest for male Hawkes, allegedly.

Different standards of beauty  8-)
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« Reply #165 on: 10 Jan 2011, 15:02 »

The Dalish/Elves are going to get this game banned/censored in Australia because our reactionary censorship board will see them as being sexualised children engaging in violence.

EDIT: I'm actually getting it from the UK because it's cheaper.
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« Reply #166 on: 10 Jan 2011, 15:05 »

But if kids didn't kill shit and fuck older beardy dudes, it wouldn't be dark fantasy.
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« Reply #167 on: 10 Jan 2011, 15:11 »

I mean


At least elven infants never go hungry.
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« Reply #168 on: 10 Jan 2011, 15:56 »

Well at least they don't just look like shorter more tattooed humans now.

Also, I wonder how many companions are going to form your "core" group and how many will come and go with the years? And did anyone notice the grey bearded Vetinari lookalike in the video? I wonder if he's the "ruler" or kirkwall.
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Re: Dragon Age 2: Fuckin' Bitches, Stabbin' Dragons
« Reply #169 on: 11 Jan 2011, 06:54 »

Well I think I am going to preorder this today and get the "signature" version.  I mean it's gonna suck if they come out with a collections edition closer to the release date but what are you gonna do.

Oh hey you can get some free items if you sign up for the newsletter.

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http://dragonage.bioware.com/da2/info/pennyarcade/

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« Reply #170 on: 11 Jan 2011, 10:48 »

Already acquired, and I must admit that I am truly looking forward to this game. Mainly because I don't have a lot of time to play it and that makes it all the sweeter when I am going to.
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« Reply #171 on: 12 Jan 2011, 14:29 »

I mean
At least elven infants never go hungry.

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« Reply #172 on: 12 Jan 2011, 16:27 »

Others commented on the... erm rather developed Elven proportions. Apparently its a throwback to an earlier build from what the Dev's have told people.

Also, had a look on the site and the sheer amount of free stuff that is being given away with this game is obscene if you have already ordered the signitaure edition! And even if your buying new you get a mabari and the equivilient of a "facial reconstruction" magic item.
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« Reply #173 on: 13 Jan 2011, 09:37 »

Holy crap!  So much Stuff!

It's all just ones and zeros...but STILL!

I wonder if they are going to give away even more stuff with a mini game thing like they did with that flash game?
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« Reply #174 on: 13 Jan 2011, 13:39 »

okay, I finally finished the first one!

Which of the additional campaigns are worthwhile? I really want to play witch hunt (as I went with Morrigans plans during the final battle), and the other ones sounds good. Any recommendations?
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« Reply #175 on: 13 Jan 2011, 16:00 »

Awakening is is still good and Witch Hunt gives some narrative closure. All the others aren't all that necessary or interesting.
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« Reply #176 on: 13 Jan 2011, 20:05 »

The only DLC worth getting is the Stone Prisoner. Witch Hunt is way, way too short and Awakenings is just... blah. The one where you play as Darkspawn is just confounding, and it's 100% combat, which in DA:O is not promising.
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« Reply #177 on: 13 Jan 2011, 20:16 »

Yeah. Return to Ostagar is only for people who are REALLY into loot whoring and have a hangup about using mods.
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« Reply #178 on: 13 Jan 2011, 20:23 »

What about that one with the bard lady?
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« Reply #179 on: 13 Jan 2011, 20:45 »

It's better than Ostagar but that's not a great accomplishment. Frankly, Leliana's past is silly with or without the DLC and it's not like any great mysteries are cleared up, so I'd feel free to skip it.
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« Reply #180 on: 13 Jan 2011, 22:57 »

Are they worth playing if, say, I grabbed the Ultimate Edition in the steam sales?
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« Reply #181 on: 13 Jan 2011, 23:13 »

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« Reply #182 on: 13 Jan 2011, 23:48 »

You may as well get the Ultimate Edition if you think you're likely to play through Awakening. Like KvP I'm not the biggest fan of the expansion, but overall that pack is quite a bit of game for your money, so you could do worse.
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« Reply #183 on: 14 Jan 2011, 04:15 »

Awakening I found to be a little easy and a bit disjointed but yeah you can do worse. Witch Hunt was just weird the final conversation with Morrigan made me really confussed as it didn't seem to do anything but add a tonne of sequel hooks.
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« Reply #184 on: 25 Jan 2011, 04:09 »

Spoilers: Having someone as a "rival" just means you can still have sex with them but it'll be a hatefuck.

Actually, I thought they were infering it also works like in Alpha Protocol where you one bonus for good relationship and a different one for bad.
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« Reply #185 on: 25 Jan 2011, 09:07 »

That as well, except it might not be as strong as Alpha Protocols "kill you on site" sort of hate. Apparently the bonuses for friendship effect Hawke and the person, whilst the hate ones effect everyone else.
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« Reply #186 on: 25 Jan 2011, 09:27 »

Spoilers: Having someone as a "rival" just means you can still have sex with them but it'll be a hatefuck.

Actually, I thought they were infering it also works like in Alpha Protocol where you one bonus for good relationship and a different one for bad.
No they have explicitly stated that antagonizing your companions does not affect the possibility of romance (sorry, "romance"), nor will it compel them to react negatively to you such that they would think of leaving you. Leave it to Bioware to bring the experience of toxic relationships to gaming, minus all the negative experiences, natch.

Example!:

Elf girl companion: "People should live in peace and not hurt one another, don't you think so Hawke"
Hawke: "The world is careless and people should look out for number one"
Elf girl companion: "Oh I realize now that my previous outlook was naive and stupid take me now o Hero of Kirkwall"

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« Reply #187 on: 25 Jan 2011, 10:00 »

I wasn't arguing that, I was just saying I though they were doing the bonuses too.
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« Reply #188 on: 25 Jan 2011, 10:40 »

You really do hate bioware don't you.
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« Reply #189 on: 25 Jan 2011, 11:02 »

If "hate" entails not drawing Garrus fanart, absolutely.
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« Reply #190 on: 25 Jan 2011, 11:20 »

Jon, to be fair, I thought you hated ME2 for the first several months the game was out because of how venomous your general talk about Bioware and their games are.
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« Reply #191 on: 25 Jan 2011, 11:42 »

Elf girl companion: "People should live in peace and not hurt one another, don't you think so Hawke"
Hawke: "The world is careless and people should look out for number one"
Elf girl companion: "Oh I realize now that my previous outlook was naive and stupid take me now o Hero of Kirkwall"

i can see how someone might interpret this as hate or at least severe dislike
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« Reply #192 on: 25 Jan 2011, 11:43 »

Its true, you do pretty much have a very angry demeanour towards them.

That said, I loved Alpha Protocol in every way. Its just that it was let down by overhype and problems with release dates.
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« Reply #193 on: 25 Jan 2011, 12:22 »

Elf girl companion: "People should live in peace and not hurt one another, don't you think so Hawke"
Hawke: "The world is careless and people should look out for number one"
Elf girl companion: "Oh I realize now that my previous outlook was naive and stupid take me now o Hero of Kirkwall"

i can see how someone might interpret this as hate or at least severe dislike
Honestly I can't see "rivalry romances" turning out any differently than that given that
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Some of the best romances, in my opinion, spring from conflict.

The rivalry path is the only way you can alter their philosophy-- as the rivalry path is, at its core, based on the fact that your philosophy is different
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There is a point at the "end" of the Rivalry path which mimics the end of the Frienship path: the companion is loyal and whatever conflict lay between you has been resolved. That's how the path works.
That is the essential gist of the rivalry system as it applies to romances.

Plus I think pulling off a romantically involved couple who have fundamentally different outlooks is beyond the scope of most games and certainly beyond the abilities of David Gaider.
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« Reply #194 on: 25 Jan 2011, 12:27 »

You guys realise that the romance's are optional, right?

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« Reply #195 on: 25 Jan 2011, 12:33 »

Oh yeah, my male Hawke is going to be as virginial as a snowflake (and not one of those filthy whore snowflakes either).

Oh and give it a rest for petes sake, what did the man do? Kill your dog or something? And they can still maintain a rivallry with you, even a dislike but they can probably respect you now. At least thats how I understood it.
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Re: Dragon Age 2: Fuckin' Bitches, Stabbin' Dragons
« Reply #196 on: 25 Jan 2011, 14:05 »

Josef, no offense but I'd rather you give it a rest. I get the impression that KvP isn't a huge fan of bioware these days too, but that doesn't mean his opinions aren't worth having around. Everyone has a bias and I don't really see why confronting him over his beats just taking it into account. I mean, really, he has a point when he says that there's scant evidence to believe this will be particularly convincing. Videogame romances haven't progressed terribly far since their introduction, after all. So far they work well if you keep it light and aim for the level of fidelity you find in action movies (Sands of Time being a great example,) but so far anything beyond that has treaded some pretty wonky territory. For example, I find it telling that PoP:SoT worked in large part because you don't have any input on it. You're being told the story of two people from the angle of one person. It's never really given a chance to go off the rails, and this rivalry system gives me the impression that in DAII you're going to be able to go right ahead and push the cart off yourself.
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Re: Dragon Age 2: Fuckin' Bitches, Stabbin' Dragons
« Reply #197 on: 25 Jan 2011, 15:12 »

Yeah... I am being a tit, I apoligise KvP.

I would just prefer to know the reasons behind the hatred rather than just stating how bad someones writing ability is when (for the most part) Dragon Ages characters are written by individual writers, not by overall storyline developers. And the truth is I don't really play any game for the "romance" aspect, so I pretty much ignore the majority of that stuff and stay for the overarching plot.
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Re: Dragon Age 2: Fuckin' Bitches, Stabbin' Dragons
« Reply #198 on: 25 Jan 2011, 15:12 »

Nah, don't apologize.

Dude's pretty obnoxious in every Bioware thread.
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Re: Dragon Age 2: Fuckin' Bitches, Stabbin' Dragons
« Reply #199 on: 25 Jan 2011, 15:28 »

Well he's entitled to his opinion, and I am loathe to cause friction over something this daft.

Also: http://bioware.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/quanari_lineup.jpg

Qunari line up, guess which one is the mage!
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