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Re: Dubstep
« Reply #50 on: 30 Nov 2010, 05:18 »

This is basically just the emo argument all over again and whatever it's a lost cause let people listen to what sounds good, if they wanna call wobblehouse dubstep and never get on benga and distance and burial and whatever that's their call.


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Re: Dubstep
« Reply #51 on: 30 Nov 2010, 13:05 »

Night Slugs just released their first compilation, if that doesn't do it nothing will.

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Re: Dubstep
« Reply #52 on: 05 Dec 2010, 21:27 »

:mrgreen:I listened to every track posted in this thread and I still don't really get "WHAT" Dubstep is.

I'm going to go hide in some Triphop and pretend its still edgy. KTHNXBAI.
UK bass music, usually (read: always) at 140 bpm. It's splintered into a million unrelated forms by now, but the original idea was that you had a tension between the high tempo and the half-time ("dubby") feel, and that you'd have really heavy basslines, often with a "wobbly" bass sound. Listen to some Skream tracks and you'll get the idea.
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Re: Dubstep
« Reply #53 on: 05 Dec 2010, 23:36 »

^ that actually helped, thank you!
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Re: Dubstep
« Reply #54 on: 06 Dec 2010, 03:07 »

This is basically just the emo argument all over again and whatever it's a lost cause let people listen to what sounds good, if they wanna call wobblehouse dubstep and never get on benga and distance and burial and whatever that's their call.
Yeah, I agree.  I like "wobblehouse dubstep" AND the "real" dubstep, thanks in big part to the contributors in this thread.  I'm still very selective with it, as I still haven't found many artists that I can say I like all of their stuff, but I don't really care about that, much.  I still have a lot more to check out just in this thread.

Thank you to those who have posted stuff.  <3
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Re: Dubstep
« Reply #55 on: 06 Dec 2010, 16:08 »

My friend made me listen to Skrillex, and I actually kind of enjoyed it. Catchy as hell.
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Re: Dubstep
« Reply #57 on: 28 Dec 2010, 18:28 »

My friend made me listen to Skrillex, and I actually kind of enjoyed it. Catchy as hell.
Ok I've been following this forum for a while to see if Skrillex would be brought up. I want opinions.

Frontman from the late-to-the-game post-hardcore screamo band From First To Last (Sonny Moore) comes late to the game to the wobblehouse scene and starts becoming wildly popular.

But what do the "music people" think of Skrillex?

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Re: Dubstep
« Reply #58 on: 28 Dec 2010, 20:26 »

I think his music is tedious and dull, and besides I tend to look askance at acts who are earnest and open about making electronic music with rock signifiers and strictures - If the Prodigy couldn't pull that off in '97 it's pretty much impossible to do these days. Skrillex's most obvious (and acknowledged) influence is Justice, natch.

I don't care what the dude looks like, but a lot of people seem to (this is the guy, for those wondering).

Really the worst thing is that when you're making ridiculously aggressive electro like Skrillex you really ought to have a sense of humor about it (see: VSnares) but I haven't been able to detect anything like that in any of the tracks I've been subjected to.
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Re: Dubstep
« Reply #59 on: 28 Dec 2010, 23:49 »

James Blake:

Awesome electronic music, or dubstep, or awesome dubstep.
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Re: Dubstep
« Reply #60 on: 28 Dec 2010, 23:53 »

Pretty good electronic music. He seems to be primarily labeled as "post-dubstep" but that could apply to just about anyone these days, so I just take it to mean that his sensibility is fairly distinctive (minimalist R&B + Burial-ish voice manipulation = ?). You don't see a lot of electronic singer-songwriters these days.
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Re: Dubstep
« Reply #61 on: 29 Dec 2010, 11:01 »

Skrillex is more or less the height of trashy wobblehouse and not very interesting, but that said i wouldn't be offended or aghast if i found myself unknowingly dancing to his shit at a party

James Blake is just great. It's not every day a great producer comes on the scene who can actually sing, and well. Fun-fact: some silly fuck tagged him as "post-genre" on Wikipedia.

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Re: Dubstep
« Reply #62 on: 15 Jan 2011, 11:20 »

So... Not precisely dubstep, but how does anyone feel about Kevin Martin (The Bug)?
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« Reply #63 on: 18 Jan 2011, 11:11 »

The Bug is dubstep. He's arguably the progenitor of the genre going back into the late 90's.

He's very good.
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Re: Dubstep
« Reply #64 on: 18 Jan 2011, 12:11 »

You don't see a lot of electronic singer-songwriters these days.

I am experiencing similar confusion others share in this genre, but really, really like what James Blake I have heard (someone was kind enough to put his stuff in last years M/F thread).  I also just started listening to edIT which is pretty cool, but seems to fall in the "no one is really being clear on if it is dub or some other kind of electronic music" thing I have been coming across which makes this a verry difficult style of music to really "break into"/"get into."
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« Reply #65 on: 18 Jan 2011, 14:14 »

I think edIT is considered glitch or "glitch-hop". He's part of the Glitch Mob, so.
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Re: Dubstep
« Reply #66 on: 18 Feb 2011, 01:51 »

I'm flipping in love with Skrillex.

I can tell its a tad goofy.

but I tend to go for that.
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« Reply #67 on: 07 Mar 2011, 04:45 »

I got introduced to Skrillex and Skream at the same time. I think... I think I might be over electronic music guys. I think I might have had enough.
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Re: Dubstep
« Reply #68 on: 07 Mar 2011, 08:54 »

If you like Mount Kimbie, I suggest Sepalcure. Suprsingly they're American, but they're really very good and very reminiscient of Mount Kimbie. Yesterday I put their two current EP's in the M/F thread, and they're both ace.

Lately I've mostly been listening to Shackleton, Ramadanman, Kode9, Mala and others who I guess are the progenitors of the scene and who now live on dubsteps outer fringes. Also found out about XLR8R and their podcasts, which are pretty awesome.
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« Reply #69 on: 07 Mar 2011, 08:56 »

I listened to skrillex for the first time last friday. It was really boring.
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« Reply #70 on: 08 Mar 2011, 12:14 »

I got introduced to Skrillex and Skream at the same time. I think... I think I might be over electronic music guys. I think I might have had enough.

It's okay, man. Just take your taste inclinations for what they are. I've felt this way about rock music for at least a year now.

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« Reply #71 on: 09 Mar 2011, 09:55 »

To be fair I think Jungle will have some sort of revival now that dubstep has sort of been everywhere and back again at least twice.

At least thats what my Indian dubstep-lover housemate tells me. I just hear a good track every so often. I'm pretty oblivious to it all really. Apart from actual dub, like De Facto.
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« Reply #72 on: 09 Mar 2011, 15:43 »

To be fair I think Jungle will have some sort of revival now that dubstep has sort of been everywhere and back again at least twice.

At least thats what my Indian dubstep-lover housemate tells me. I just hear a good track every so often. I'm pretty oblivious to it all really. Apart from actual dub, like De Facto.
I mean, Zombie and Skream have been going in that direction a little. I don't think it'll get a full-fledged revival, though--Dubstep's recent surge of popularity in America feels like a death rattle, to me at least.
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« Reply #73 on: 09 Mar 2011, 16:00 »

Dubstep of the Deep Medi-standard sort has been on the wane for years. Jungle... probably won't be back, as a scene, but dnb in general has been threaded through dubstep variants for awhile now (Autonomic / Exit / Nonplus records, etc.) Actual jungle, I wouldn't discount it coming back (dance music is like broadway - lots of revivals) but not in the near future.
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Re: Dubstep
« Reply #74 on: 23 Mar 2011, 01:42 »

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Re: Dubstep
« Reply #75 on: 23 Mar 2011, 12:30 »

People are listening to "dubstep" still? I got finagled into going to a Bassnectar show last summer and even the ecstasy couldn't stop me from thinking dubstep was fucked.
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« Reply #76 on: 23 Mar 2011, 12:36 »

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« Reply #77 on: 23 Mar 2011, 13:38 »

People are listening to "dubstep" still? I got finagled into going to a Bassnectar show last summer and even the ecstasy couldn't stop me from thinking dubstep was fucked.
(Bassnectar is not dubstep)
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« Reply #78 on: 23 Mar 2011, 15:37 »

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« Reply #79 on: 23 Mar 2011, 16:21 »

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« Reply #80 on: 24 Mar 2011, 10:51 »

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« Reply #81 on: 24 Mar 2011, 10:57 »

(Bassnectar is not dubstep)

That is my point. Literally every single person who told me to go told me I was going to a dubstep show, people were there wearing "Southwest Dubstep" shirts (whatever that fucking means) and my friend who likes dance music asked me when I got back "so were you disappointed when it wasn't dubstep at all?"

The label has disintegrated and become meaningless, as far as I can tell.
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Re: Dubstep
« Reply #82 on: 24 Mar 2011, 11:26 »

That doesn't delegitimize music that is good and may be called "dubstep." It might to people who are easily confused by genre terms, but if you're enough enamored with the sound, it shouldn't be too much of a hindrance. There are other cues beyond genre that people can use to see if they're going to like various artists, and there are ways of knowing whether or not a "dubstep" artist is going to be worthwhile or just skronky nonsense.

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« Reply #83 on: 24 Mar 2011, 12:26 »

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« Reply #84 on: 24 Mar 2011, 16:00 »

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« Reply #85 on: 24 Mar 2011, 21:03 »

That doesn't delegitimize music that is good and may be called "dubstep." It might to people who are easily confused by genre terms, but if you're enough enamored with the sound, it shouldn't be too much of a hindrance. There are other cues beyond genre that people can use to see if they're going to like various artists, and there are ways of knowing whether or not a "dubstep" artist is going to be worthwhile or just skronky nonsense.

It certainly doesn't delegitimize anything that's already been made, but it seems to me there comes a point when the label means less and the direction of the music that is referred to in a certain way loses its relation to the original meaning. Dubstep is the fastest that I've ever known that to happen to a genre, but it seems that it has.

When everybody calls something dubstep, and then someone goes to a "dubstep" show and is totally confused, then there is obviously a problem in the genre. And myself, I'd just as soon forget about it as a confused and frustrating genre than invest more time and money into it. Certainly living in the South the "dubstep" around me is going to tend to be the skronky nonsense, and to separate the wheat from the chaff is something I have very little interest in. Especially when the most basic and simple communication about what in general something is (the genre label) is intrinsically flawed.
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« Reply #86 on: 31 Mar 2011, 13:19 »

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« Reply #87 on: 02 Apr 2011, 19:57 »

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« Reply #88 on: 04 Apr 2011, 02:53 »

Reminds me of this vid I saw a few weeks ago.  The top comment at the time was something like:

"More of a parody of dubstep than of the actual song"

I've never heard the original and thanks to that vid, I probably never will.
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« Reply #89 on: 05 Apr 2011, 03:17 »

Yeah there's so much crap on youtube like that that I'm starting to think there is a DonkDJ for Dubstep somewhere that people are just feeding every new video that gets posted on youtube.
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« Reply #90 on: 05 Apr 2011, 08:08 »

Huh, that does explain things.
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Re: Dubstep
« Reply #91 on: 15 Apr 2011, 14:22 »

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« Reply #92 on: 15 Apr 2011, 14:24 »

The inevitable, epochal watershed moment of American bass music, right there.
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« Reply #94 on: 18 Apr 2011, 09:28 »

I think Magnetic Man should be mentioned in this thread. Artwork+Benga+Skream.  Dubstep's first super group?

Speaking of which, their new album is streaming for free this week...

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« Reply #95 on: 29 Apr 2011, 20:42 »

First time it happens I have a lot of sympathy and am all "shit that really sucks"

Second time it happens, you're a stupid chode

Listen guys, if you're a musician who does all your work digitally, back your shit up. It is not hard, really. Especially if you're selling out shows all over the place like this dumbass is.
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« Reply #96 on: 01 May 2011, 14:56 »

Interviews I've read paint him as a regular-seeming dude. But leaving all assets of your new album on one laptop? And leaving it in a hotel room on tour? After you've already had one album/laptop package nicked within a year? Not smart.

He also lost an official Lady Gaga remix entitled "Died This Way", which is perfect.
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« Reply #97 on: 01 May 2011, 15:58 »

he said two hard drives as well in that report so i assume that it was backed up on those ...the only reason i could think of for not having it backed up at home or something would be he's done the whole thing on tour
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« Reply #98 on: 01 May 2011, 17:20 »

Still, not much use in keeping your backups with your originals (for theft loss prevention, anyway. Data corruption, it makes sense). Redundancies!
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« Reply #99 on: 04 May 2011, 18:32 »



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