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Re: Bioware's New Game
« Reply #100 on: 13 Dec 2010, 12:02 »

All the brits I know seem convinced that the guy in the trailer is far too Northern to be Sean Bean.
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« Reply #101 on: 13 Dec 2010, 18:30 »

I hope the series can close with a high note and become a classic. The first installment had some technical problems but compensated itself with quite a strong Universe that I DEVOURED. I spent an ungodly amount if time reading the game's codex.
The second part of the series was far more refined game-wise but I think they ran into some bumps with the story.
For the final chapter it is in my hopes that the game won't lose focus on the main objective: tell a great interactive story. That means no multiplayer please! We already have a dime a dozen. No more "pleasing the Halo/GoW" crowd either! Not if it implies budget cuts at their story depth. I'm not into M.E. for the take-cover system.

Also, as neomang5 implied, I want to see more from other alien cultures and how they work. I wish for the "earth scene" to be a starter or middle event, and not the grand finale. I don't mind a little "we humans are important too" flavour to the mix. Lets just hope it isn't the main course. Shepard's "death" was the start of M.E. 2, and I hope Earth's invasion is M.E. 3 start as well.

Finally, I hope this isn't a prequel, nor any prequels follow. All wishful thinking though: Intellectual Properties have been beaten to death in the name of money. (see force unleashed 2)

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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #102 on: 13 Dec 2010, 18:33 »

This is actually a series where I want the company to rape and pillage the universe for all it's worth. I want a "First Contact War" game. I want a game set during the "Krogan Rebellion" and "Rachni Wars." It's easily one of the best and well fleshed out sci-fi universes I've seen in a very long time and I want more game exploring it and with the vast number of things they could go into they could even do it in just about any genre of game they wanted.
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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #103 on: 13 Dec 2010, 18:52 »

Agreed.

Exploit this franchise, Bioware/EA. Show no mercy.
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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #104 on: 13 Dec 2010, 18:53 »

When I was a child I had the opportunity to watch Star Wars remastered at the cinema. This was a few years before the new trilogy hit. I, as you, wanted more of that Universe. After a few experiences similar to Star Wars, I learned to love short lived I.P.'s

It's easily one of the best and well fleshed out sci-fi universes I've seen in a very long time....
I'm left to wonder how much of that is because the Mass Effect Universe has not been explored and the gaps are being filled with each person's imagination.

There are no big revelations from my part. I do not know if an I.P. should be handled with a lot of different writers and opinions, maybe the opposite: a one person's vision with an iron fist policy, or something in between.
I do know I don't want Mass Effect to become the next Halo.

You most likely get your wish though, if trends are any indication.
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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #105 on: 13 Dec 2010, 19:05 »

I'm pretty sure that Bioware has said that this the end of Shepard's trilogy but not of the Mass Effect Universe. 
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« Reply #106 on: 13 Dec 2010, 19:57 »

For the final chapter it is in my hopes that the game won't lose focus on the main objective: tell a great interactive story. That means no multiplayer please! We already have a dime a dozen. No more "pleasing the Halo/GoW" crowd either! Not if it implies budget cuts at their story depth. I'm not into M.E. for the take-cover system.

Also, as neomang5 implied, I want to see more from other alien cultures and how they work. I wish for the "earth scene" to be a starter or middle event, and not the grand finale. I don't mind a little "we humans are important too" flavour to the mix. Lets just hope it isn't the main course. Shepard's "death" was the start of M.E. 2, and I hope Earth's invasion is M.E. 3 start as well.

i agree completley with everything you just said, but most strongly with the NO MULTIPLAYER PLEASE point. unless it is going to be coperative campaign where your friends can play as the squadmates then please don't sully a perfectly good game by slapping some stupid competitive mode on to the end. i play video games for the story and on a game like this adding a multiplayer mode would do nothing more than mean the people making the game have less time to bang out the awesome story mode and check for bugs and glitches and stuff.
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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #107 on: 13 Dec 2010, 22:35 »

Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood and it's fucking brilliant multiplayer alongside its wonderful single player would like you to understand that that's not always the case.
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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #108 on: 13 Dec 2010, 23:10 »

Brotherhood is a perfect example of how EA should approach their social gaming dreams.
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« Reply #109 on: 13 Dec 2010, 23:24 »

Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood and it's fucking brilliant multiplayer alongside its wonderful single player would like you to understand that that's not always the case.
And yet, it is the case most of the times.

A multiplayer portion will require a daunting amount of resources (including time), the engine doesn't seem very fit for a high frame gameplay experience, and more to the point: Mass Effect has been built around the single player experience crowd in mind.

I could not care less even if the multiplayer portion was built to be a masterpiece.
And I'm not even a misanthrope.
The cold, hard fact is that I do not go to Mass Effect to be competitive, meet new people, or do the same repetitive task over and over again until I lose my mind for the same reason I do not go to the gym to order a hamburger.
We already have great games for that.
 
Moreover, I think it would be better if you build a game to be multiplayer from scratch: that way you don't have to bend over backwards the story just to fit some marketing* director asinine sellout concept. Why can't a game remain specialized to an area?
Better to be King of something than a Jack of all trades.

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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #110 on: 14 Dec 2010, 00:34 »

Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood and it's fucking brilliant multiplayer alongside its wonderful single player would like you to understand that that's not always the case.
yup that's why even though i absolutley loved the first two games and played through them several times each. i am boycotting brotherhood thank you very much, that game didn't need some gimmickey multiplayer to detract from disk space thus making the part of the game that made it good shorter
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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #111 on: 14 Dec 2010, 01:46 »

It really is your loss, Brotherhood is a very good game.
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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #112 on: 14 Dec 2010, 06:25 »

Yeah guys, I don't see how having multiplayer necessarily means they sacrifice quality in the rest of the game. Based on what I gather from credits and my general understanding of The Way Things Work, it's generally not the same people working on both parts. So it's not like someone's going to tell the story designers "fuck, we're running close to the deadline, you need to quit what you're doing and finish the multiplayer." Of course, the only company whose model I really understand is Blizzard, and they're the of the "wait till it's fucking finished the way we want it to be" mentality. That's how a supposed 1.5 year interval between WoW expansions turned into 2 years between WotLK and Cataclysm.

Also, disk space as a limitation is probably the dumbest argument at hand.
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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #113 on: 14 Dec 2010, 07:34 »

Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood and it's fucking brilliant multiplayer alongside its wonderful single player would like you to understand that that's not always the case.
yup that's why even though i absolutley loved the first two games and played through them several times each. i am boycotting brotherhood thank you very much, that game didn't need some gimmickey multiplayer to detract from disk space thus making the part of the game that made it good shorter

The single player is around 20 hours, same as the single player in the first two games. Stop your bitchin or at least bitch about something valid.
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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #114 on: 14 Dec 2010, 08:50 »

Man, if Brotherhood's multi is a gimmick, the video game industry would be much better off with more gimmicks. Clever as all fuck off.
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« Reply #115 on: 14 Dec 2010, 10:19 »

It's at least 30 hrs if you take your time and do everything, I've played 70hrs of ACII.
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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #116 on: 14 Dec 2010, 10:21 »

Brotherhood is the business.
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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #117 on: 14 Dec 2010, 12:25 »

I'd be pretty happy with some kind of multi-player feature in the next Mass Effect as long as it doesn't harm the quality of the game, or it isn't thrown in last second like Fable 2.
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« Reply #118 on: 16 Dec 2010, 13:01 »

All the brits I know seem convinced that the guy in the trailer is far too Northern to be Sean Bean.

Sean Bean is from Sheffield in Yorkshire. His Shakespearian voice is a put on.

I haven't watched the trailer so I can't tell you if it's him.
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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #119 on: 16 Dec 2010, 15:00 »

Apparently its not him, its just a rumour attached to the movie.
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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #121 on: 20 Dec 2010, 12:18 »

Confirmed: Poorly coded, designed game contributes idea for better developers.
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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #122 on: 20 Dec 2010, 12:25 »

Like Dragon Age with LotR, yeah?

Certainly better than "BIOWARE INVENTS INCREDIBLE NEW DIALOG SYSTEM, ARE BEST GAME GENIUSES *SMACK SMACK SMACK*"
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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #123 on: 20 Dec 2010, 12:46 »

Besides if you had actually played AP and had any sense in your fool head you would have realized that the Dialog Stance System was perfectly coded and brilliantly designed and executed.

I'm thoroughly looking forward to Bioware removing what was truly great about the system, the intricate choice and consequence. One of the best things they've said in the DA2  press push is that implementing content that most players won't see on a single playthrough is bad design.
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« Reply #124 on: 20 Dec 2010, 13:30 »

I could see the one well-crafted experience philosophy paying dividends if and only if Bioware cast off things like the half-baked morality systems (which, is a possibility given that Dragon Age didn't have really have one) and committed themselves to having one story with one outcome. That way at least they could avoid the player character schizophrenia that sometimes plagues their titles. With that said, I'd be disappointed if they went that route. Bioware has claimed a niche in my gaming library largely because I've been willing to live with some warts in exchange for some off-kilter frills and (admittedly still rather shallow) replayability you don't see with many other developers. Their core game play design has frankly always been just weak enough that I'm not sure they can afford to be more like other developers if they really want to continue claiming a good share of my hard drive.
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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #125 on: 20 Dec 2010, 13:43 »

Confirmed: Poorly coded, designed game contributes idea for better developers.

Like Dragon Age with LotR, yeah?

Nah, this statement doesn't follow very well.
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« Reply #126 on: 20 Dec 2010, 14:28 »

my foot's going to follow your head up your ass if you don't take back what you said about one of 2010's best games
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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #127 on: 20 Dec 2010, 14:31 »

if you didn't like alpha protocol and mass effect 2 for like entirely different reasons on account of they both did entirely different things very, very well then Fuck You

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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #128 on: 20 Dec 2010, 15:59 »

Nah, man, AP is cool, I just like playing into John's weird little false Bioware vs Obsidian dichotomy he's got going up in his brain for no good reason
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« Reply #129 on: 20 Dec 2010, 21:27 »

Obsidian and Bioware both make great games that I very much enjoy playing and I do not understand why so many people feel it is necessary to pick a side
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« Reply #130 on: 20 Dec 2010, 21:45 »

I swear I can't tell the difference between the two
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« Reply #131 on: 20 Dec 2010, 22:14 »

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« Reply #132 on: 21 Dec 2010, 15:34 »

I think ultimately I was disappointed by ME2. Assembling the crew was interesting but then the actual campaign was over in a moment and wasn't particular memorable either.

I'm sort of hoping they just let you keep your crew from the last game and there's an actual game in there somewhere, rather than a huge build up and then a wet fart.
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« Reply #133 on: 21 Dec 2010, 16:01 »

I hope we get the option to punch that turian council member in the face.
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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #134 on: 21 Dec 2010, 16:30 »

Speculation Time!

Given the growing demand for the inclusion of Hanar and Eclor teammates, who thinks we'll get one or the other in the next game? Or maybe a Batarian, the spacists.

Also, Turian, Krogan and Salarian Females? I think we've already seen a Female Salarian (council member) they just have not confirmed it, but the others I feel are likely to show in the new game.

Thoughts? Wild Mass Guessing?
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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #135 on: 21 Dec 2010, 17:13 »

Female Salarians and Krogans are kinda rare for reasons stated in the codex but hey maybe we'll see a female turian.
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« Reply #136 on: 21 Dec 2010, 17:13 »

A female Salarian/Krogan companion will lead to a female empowerment/women's rights sub-plot. It is in inevitable.
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« Reply #137 on: 21 Dec 2010, 21:20 »

i wanna see a female turian/salarian teamate, but hell i'd be happy just to even SEE a female krogan :D
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« Reply #138 on: 21 Dec 2010, 23:22 »

There are female krogan in the Urdnot Camp in ME2. They look and sound just like males, if that's what you're wondering.
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« Reply #139 on: 21 Dec 2010, 23:30 »

I thought that was a representative of the female camp who happened to be male.
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« Reply #140 on: 22 Dec 2010, 01:08 »

I think ultimately I was disappointed by ME2. Assembling the crew was interesting but then the actual campaign was over in a moment and wasn't particular memorable either.

the ending mission was in a lot of ways, after you got done the cutscene into it, anticlimactic, but the game they built up to that was a lot of fun. if they can strike the balance between the stuff they did in this last game and the actual urgency or excitement that the main missions need, that'll be a hell of an accomplishment
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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #141 on: 22 Dec 2010, 11:52 »

I thought that was a representative of the female camp who happened to be male.

If I recall, it was a basically neutered male since he was the only one who could be a trusted representative and not just go around the female camp pillaging and raping. Mostly raping.
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« Reply #142 on: 22 Dec 2010, 13:40 »

I'd like Anderson to bang out Udina again, then possibly the rest of the Council, before taking a comfortable seat by a window, lighting a fine cigar, and then nonchantly watch the Citadel get taken to pieces around him by the Reapers.

Then he sets off some sort of bomb, taking a few of the giant-cyborg-alien-ships with him.

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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #143 on: 22 Dec 2010, 14:25 »

A female Salarian/Krogan companion will lead to a female empowerment/women's rights sub-plot. It is in inevitable.

Could you do this in New Vegas if you played for Ceasar?

It would also be a pretty bad idea to include it unless they skip the whole renegade/paragon scale for that one, unless they want to create more stupid media fuss than the first game.
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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #144 on: 22 Dec 2010, 18:30 »

I thought that was a representative of the female camp who happened to be male.

If I recall, it was a basically neutered male since he was the only one who could be a trusted representative and not just go around the female camp pillaging and raping. Mostly raping.

I thought it was a female, but I couldn't really tell beyond the fact that her voice was a little different from the other Krogans.

I would love to have a Batarian teammate as part of the whole, "We must all come together," thing, but I have the feeling that he would constantly get shit on by everyone else.
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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #145 on: 22 Dec 2010, 19:30 »

the ending mission was in a lot of ways, after you got done the cutscene into it, anticlimactic, but the game they built up to that was a lot of fun. if they can strike the balance between the stuff they did in this last game and the actual urgency or excitement that the main missions need, that'll be a hell of an accomplishment

They basically need to make a hybrid of ME1 and ME2 then. The first game had a reasonably long and exciting main quest.
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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #146 on: 22 Dec 2010, 21:22 »

i liked how in the first game if you got a weapon with 3 upgrade slots you could put a bunch of heat sinks in it and it would never overheat. i want them to bring that back  :psyduck: d(o.o)b but seriously i'm hoping it is somewhere between the first one and the second one, if they can nail it perfectly it will be one of those games that everyone who plays video games needs to play at least once
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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #147 on: 23 Dec 2010, 08:27 »

I would love to have a Batarian teammate as part of the whole, "We must all come together," thing, but I have the feeling that he would constantly get shit on by everyone else.

I know I would constantly be sending him out as my meatshield, for one. Batarians are really the jerks of the galaxy, moreso than the Turians even.

Also, they better not give me Tali and then take her away. She seriously needs overload back as well, so I can actually use her in combat.
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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #148 on: 23 Dec 2010, 14:48 »

It's not their fault, they come from a pretty closed society.


Then again most are just assholes and I want to shoot them in the face.
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Re: Bioware's New Game: It's Mass Effect 3.
« Reply #149 on: 25 Dec 2010, 03:36 »

I reckon a new feature will be the ability to have a romance with everything and anything in the game.

Anderson, Udina, the entire council (at the same time), your pistol, a Helper, the Normandy, the Citadel...
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