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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #50 on: 23 Nov 2010, 18:32 »

I have a car. It's blue. I used to have another car. It was nearly as old as me. It was silver.
Now I take the bus most places anyway and my car just sits at home being decorative.
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #51 on: 23 Nov 2010, 18:33 »

Yes, my first car was a '92 Lancer, actually! My grandparents bought it new or newish, then my parents bought it from them and I finally got it in '03 and drove it up to early '09, at which point I traded it back to my parents where he managed to get it to limp the 15 minutes either direction to work for another year and a half. It was putting out a lot of smoke by the end of it and it was a hell of a struggle to get it to do 100 km/h but it never had any major breakdowns that I can think of in the whole 18 years.
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #52 on: 23 Nov 2010, 18:39 »

  • 1971 AMC Hornet Sportabout. Used to be my mom's old car. My grandfather had driven it, then gave it to me. I crashed it into a halfway-house apartment when the right-front wheel bearing broke.
  • 1986(?) Renault Encore. This was actually my step-mom's car, but I ended up driving it mostly as my "work" car.
  • 1990 Ford Escort LX. I bought this one essentially right out of college, when I was working for a Ford dealer. Nice little car that I probably could have driven into the ground, but decided not to.
  • 1993 Ford Escort LX. This one was green and had a five-speed manual. By the time I was ready to chuck it, I think the clutch was paper-thin. Worst thing was in November of '96, when some idiot spray-painted over the DOLE/KEMP bumper sticker on the back bumper.
  • 1997 Dodge Dakota SLT Extended Cab. First and only pickup I ever owned. Got a cap for the back a few months after I bought it. Six years later, third gear was slipping and I was getting tired of paying $$$$$ to fill it.
  • 2003 Chrysler PT Cruiser. My baby. As much as I hate this thing at times, I have to remind myself this is the car I wanted. The reminders sit on my desk, my dresser, my TV stand, and even in the cupholder of the car (yes, I have at least six die-cast models of my PT, including the one I keep in my car).
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #53 on: 23 Nov 2010, 18:41 »

I learnt to drive in my dad's Peugot 407 which was basically a spy car. It had ridiculous hidden compartments for no reason and had this awesome stereo display that made you feel like you could align a nuclear satellite with it. The boot opened by pressing a hidden button! It was also black and awesome and made no noise at all. Totally stealth.

I now drive my girlfriend's car occasionally (read: when we go out and she wants to have a drink or just doesn't feel like driving) and it is a Holden Viva. It's a pretty smooth ride and handles nicely.

My dad, now that I have my license, is always asking if I'd like to drive his car to see how nice it is. The man now drives a fucking cherry red Jaguar X-Type. I do not want to drive that car. He glares at you if you so much as think about scratching it.
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #54 on: 23 Nov 2010, 18:45 »

Oh they totally are, my dad's had one for ages.

You know what else is a great car? The Mitsubishi Lancer. My brother has one that used to belong to our mum, it must be at least fifteen years old and sure it's got a few bumps and bruises but it still goes like a rocket.

Oh hey I own a Lancer that used to belong to my mum and is at least 15 years old. It's got plenty of bumps but it feels worse and worse with every service :s

My first car was a JE Holden Camira wagon and I miss it every day.

I want my next car to be a busted old 3 series but it will probably be another station wagon because station wagons are the best.
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #55 on: 23 Nov 2010, 19:53 »

I have never technically had my own car, though that only bothers me when I go home and one of the family cars is in the shop so I have no way out of the house.

I am sad because my parents just had to sell the '94 (or was it a '95?) Toyota 4Runner that I learned to drive in and drove to high school every day. That car had memories attached, and I did not get to say goodbye =(
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #56 on: 23 Nov 2010, 20:21 »

I get to drive a 97 Honda Accord that was bought used for my sister in law, but she stopped driving it when she had her baby and found out that you can't get a car seat into the back because it's a two-door. It is called The Broke-Ass Honda even though it has been getting fixed up a few pieces at a time. It is a pretty good little car now that it has working brakes and the axle doesn't try to lock up whenever I turn left. In August I "totaled" it in a fender-bender with just over $3500 in damage but we fixed it. It looks like this but is missing two hubcaps:


Also in the GIS results for "97 honda accord coupe black" I got this:

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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #57 on: 24 Nov 2010, 01:56 »

I don't think I'm ever going to be able to afford driving lessons, let alone a car.

At this point I'm not sure if there's much point. Cars are shite for the environment anyway.
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #58 on: 24 Nov 2010, 01:57 »



This is my vehicle. I wish my fucker of a mechanic would give it back.

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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #59 on: 24 Nov 2010, 02:06 »

I drive one of these, basically.



It is nice. Gets pretty awesome mileage, is just big enough to carry all of my drums or many of my friends. I end up chauffeuring a lot.
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #60 on: 24 Nov 2010, 05:47 »

Finally divorced and bought what i wanted and got a 2009 versa with manual everything and have loved it since.

I have very good memories of a 2009 Versa. *sigh*
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #61 on: 24 Nov 2010, 06:06 »

DF: man i want to ride around on amazon.
 
:mrgreen: : this kinda amazon?
   


DF: no you dick i mean this kinda amazon.

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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #62 on: 24 Nov 2010, 11:55 »

I swear to god I deleted this thread right after I posted it.

What I want:


What I have:


His name is Boris. He gets terrible gas mileage. I can run over curbs and not notice. People don't park their cars next to me. I also have a '91 Explorer to make up for how cool Boris is.
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #63 on: 24 Nov 2010, 12:01 »

You need to paint Boris orange, Hartley. It's only logical.
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« Reply #64 on: 24 Nov 2010, 12:03 »

He's actually getting painted black next summer. At the moment I have lots of mechanical errors to fix. Apparently, home theater systems go in trucks. Wiring = screwed.
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #65 on: 24 Nov 2010, 15:47 »

I don't think I'm ever going to be able to afford driving lessons, let alone a car.

At this point I'm not sure if there's much point. Cars are shite for the environment anyway.

To be fair, that's like complaining that the carpet will be ruined because the sink is leaking when there is a monsoon going and you have no roof. Get a used small car (you guys have lots of clean diesels over there, don't you?) and you aren't going to be doing anything appreciable to the environment. Can't wait until the infrastructure for hydrogen cars gets to the point where they are practical, though. It will probably take another big fuel crisis or two. Then the supply of fossil fuel can go farther, when it is only used by old people that have no intention of selling their car when it still works just as well as when they bought it in 1980 and by people that drive for fun.
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #66 on: 24 Nov 2010, 15:59 »

I have lived with 27 cars so far; you can see them all in this album (these are pictures from Google, not my actual cars, but are mostly the right model and colour).

Here are the most special in various ways:

Standard Big Nine - the car I fell out of as an infant when a door came open on a corner - probably my very first reliable memory is lying on a rubber sheet in hospital while my scalp was stitched; I also remember the honeycomb radiator and the temperature gauge on top:


Hillman Husky - the car I learnt to drive in; it had four gears: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, Emergency Low:


Bedford Beagle - the car I took my girlfriend out in:


Morris Traveller - my own first car:


Austin 1800 - the car I would most like to have again:


Citroen BX - the car I had for longest (first as a company car, and then my wife bought it off the company - it did about 230,000 miles):


Peugeot 306 - probably the prettiest car I had, and fabulous to drive on country roads:
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #67 on: 24 Nov 2010, 16:17 »

What good buying a car I can't drive, have nowhere to park, can't insure etc.?

Oh hey what about vehicles we actually use.



Optare Tempo Bus



British Rail Class 444 Siemens Desiro Electric Modular Train



MV Wight Light/MV Wight Sky/MV Wight Sun



Red Jet 4



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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #68 on: 24 Nov 2010, 16:26 »

OK.  Bike I go to work on (though I walk a lot these days):



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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #69 on: 24 Nov 2010, 16:32 »



Look, it's even the route number you can take to get to my place. That one goes the long way round though.



Trains! I don't get trains very often. Maybe once a week. They either look like this or this:



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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #70 on: 24 Nov 2010, 16:33 »

Bedford Beagle

It even looks strangely like a beagle!
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #71 on: 24 Nov 2010, 18:08 »

What good buying a car I can't drive, have nowhere to park, can't insure etc.?
Sounds like a personal issue to me. I do use my car. I expect Hartley uses her truck, and most people that have posted cars or trucks in here use theirs. Not everybody lives someplace where you can walk everywhere, or ride a bus everywhere. Or bike, I like to ride my bike, but doing the ride to school every day is a bit much in the late spring and early fall, and downright dangerous to impossible in the winter.

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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #72 on: 24 Nov 2010, 18:14 »

I have a car but I use it like, once a fortnight to drive to the shops. My Dad bought it for me brand new because he is a great Dad, but now that I live in the city I don't need it. He won't let me give it back to him so I still have to pay for rego and insurance (which is a BITCH in the inner city) in January! What a lousy month for it.
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #73 on: 24 Nov 2010, 19:36 »

Sounds like a personal issue to me.

Well er...yeah it's a personal issue? I never said I didn't see the point in cars. I was more saying like, I can't even afford to learn to drive. Kind of a lament?  :?

Hovertravel is bitching but the mainland terminals in kind of a weird place, plus they won't run it in any sea-state above 4 because people are enormous pussies and they can't be bothered to put in furnishings you can easily wipe vomit off. Riding a hovercraft in even somewhat rough seas is, admittedly, something of an experience, but come on. If you're going to live on an island you gotta get used to the idea of the sea.

I have actually been on a red jet crossing where people were throwing up, incidentally. It ruined the ride; I hadn't had as much fun on the sea (whilst not soaking wet) since they stopped running the hydrofoils off of Ryde Pier. Now they were something; there's an instinctual level on which you know, for certain, that boats shouldn't actually fly. Certainly not 70 tonne passenger vessels going at 35 knots.
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #74 on: 24 Nov 2010, 19:47 »

Ah, okay. I thought you were saying that cars sucked and were useless in general, not that you couldn't afford them.

I need to ride a hovercraft at some point before I die. Not much opportunity in a landlocked state.
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #75 on: 24 Nov 2010, 19:53 »

Why don't we have hovercrafts its like England is light years ahead of us in this. I mean hell they even have Hover Lawnmowers
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« Reply #76 on: 24 Nov 2010, 20:21 »

Well, we did invent Hovercraft over here, so there's that!

Hovercraft have been tried out in various places and various configurations. There used to be a cross-channel service that took cars before the chunnel opened. Unfortunately hovercraft have two significant problems

1)As mentioned above, their all but useless for passenger transport in anything but the calmest seas. I don't think they actually work full-stop in very rough seas. Even when it's like a millpond the ride quality is terrible. Whereas well-designed hulled vessels slice straight through small waves smoothly, hovercraft deliver every imperfection in the waters surface straight to your pelvis like a pneumatic jackhammer. Going over the wakes of large ships is like taking a speed-bump in a car at 60 mph.

2) They're insanely loud. this video gives some impression. Note how when the hovercraft turns its rotors towards the camera it completely blows out the microphone. They sound like jet aircraft taking off, all the time.

They are fucking nippy though. They go at about 40-50 mph, which seems more like 100 on the water.
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #77 on: 24 Nov 2010, 20:26 »

i don't have a license because i could never afford driver's ed

now i can just take the test, but that way i won't get insurance

anyway it doesn't matter, i bike everywhere



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« Reply #78 on: 24 Nov 2010, 21:14 »

i got an ontario driver's license but because i moved before i could qualify for the full license, i've only got about two years left before it expires. even though i don't own a car and have no plans to in the near future, i'm trying to work out how to get a british columbia driver's license at some point just because it seems like a really useful thing to have... except i think i may have forgotten how to drive. and i don't think any of my friends will let me practice on their cars because i am a terrible driver. this might be complicated.

oh well! public transit rules anyway.
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #79 on: 25 Nov 2010, 04:45 »

here we go lol

my first car was almost exactly like this one, a 1988 ford taunus, which i had back when i was 16 or 17 i guess (had no license obv). got it for like 500$, then sold for about 1000$ :mrgreen: it was big and heavy, had no power steering, wobbly ride, and i loved it.


then i got a fabia sw as a company car for about 6 months. shit mileage, shit auto gearbox. it felt like walking would be faster.


after that one was a hyundai getz which was o.k. as a company car. drove it for about a year, broke a lot.


around that time i bought my own car, a 2001 5.20i. i still miss that car, it was wonderful. got lpg fitted so had same mpg as the hyundai lol.


after the bimmer i got a 2005 audi a3, sold it right away as i found out i HATE coupes.


i had no car for about a year, then bought a 2008 golf. it was the tsi model with 140bhp, was so awesome. sold to a coworker same year.


and my current car, 2006 3.20d, it feels like i've been paying for it for centuries. yet its a beautiful car with great mpg and performance so i'm not complaining.
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« Reply #80 on: 25 Nov 2010, 05:13 »

Metropolitan public transport, you say?

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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #81 on: 25 Nov 2010, 05:20 »

Why don't we have hovercrafts its like England is light years ahead of us in this. I mean hell they even have Hover Lawnmowers

America has hovercraft. We just use ours to carry guns and people carrying guns.

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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #82 on: 25 Nov 2010, 05:43 »



My current transport.



My desired transport.
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« Reply #83 on: 25 Nov 2010, 06:38 »

My current transport.

hey i was thinkin' about buying one of those, but they go for 2-3k€ here, is it worth it?
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« Reply #84 on: 25 Nov 2010, 07:15 »



My desired transport.
Not sure if you desire it so you can just run over everything in your path but trust me they aren't fun to drive after awhile.
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« Reply #85 on: 25 Nov 2010, 07:30 »

hey i was thinkin' about buying one of those, but they go for 2-3k€ here, is it worth it?

Whaaat! Mine cost around €700 including pedals and shoes. Sounds like it'd be cheaper to fly here, buy one, and fly back (or cycle back).

Not sure if you desire it so you can just run over everything in your path but trust me they aren't fun to drive after awhile.

It's not so much about the driving as it is about turning it into a apocalypse-survival camper-van.
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #87 on: 25 Nov 2010, 10:28 »

i'm trying to work out how to get a british columbia driver's license at some point just because it seems like a really useful thing to have.

You should just be able to exchange it. You'll be probably need a driver's abstract (and maybe proof of B.C. residence) but it's not like they're that hard to get. If Sam could exchange her Australian driver's license for an Ontario one, then I can't imagine it'd be harder between Canadian provinces.
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« Reply #88 on: 25 Nov 2010, 10:46 »

the thing is that both ontario and british columbia have these really complicated graduated licensing systems, which are probably useful in that they keep terrible inexperienced drivers off the road but REALLY irritating in that they result in you having to take a billion tests and wait anywhere from 2-3 years to get a full license from the point that you take your first written test. as a result i ended up moving from ontario before i qualified to test for the full license so i don't know how my weird halfway-there license works out here but i suspect the answer is going to involve a lot more money and more tests and more waiting periods and oh god driving is the worst why do people even do this
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #89 on: 25 Nov 2010, 11:23 »

Yeah you basically explained why I don't have a license of my own.
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #90 on: 25 Nov 2010, 11:52 »

What? I just answered some multiple choice questions about what you should do if you run over a child or see a policeman waving you over, clicked on a picture when I saw DANGER APPROACHING and then drove a guy around for half an hour without killing anyone, and now I am licensed to drive anywhere at any time with anyone in the car, and in about two weeks my insurance will drop in price (hilariously, I have not driven even a metre since I got my licence and am far more likely to kill someone now than I ever was at 17).

How can it be that complicated to get a licence? What do they achieve by making you spend two years trying to get one?
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #91 on: 25 Nov 2010, 14:02 »

I think it takes like 5 years to get a full licence here. Unless you're over 25 in which case it is fewer years, but it is still years.

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Pass the Driver Knowledge Test (DKT) – this gets you a learner licence.
Hold your learner licence at least 12 months for drivers under the age of 25. Complete 120 hours minimum driving practice (log book records the driving experience).
Pass the Driving Test – progress to a Provisional Licence – stage 1 (P1 or ‘red’ Ps).
Hold your P1 licence for a minimum of 12 months.
Pass the Hazard Perception Test – progress to Provisional Licence – stage 2 (P2 or ‘green’ Ps).
Hold your P2 licence for a minimum of 24 months.
Pass the Driver Qualification Test (DQT) – progress to a full licence.
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #92 on: 25 Nov 2010, 16:06 »

yeah the idea is that there are restrictions for each level so that you basically can't get a full license until you have had at least 2-3 years of driving experience. the main problem with being stuck with anything that isn't a full license (in ontario, anyway, i'm assuming it's the same here on the west coast) is that you only have a few years before it expires, at which point you have to start the entire process all over again. right from the beginning. this is all well and good if you own a car and you drive it every day and have lots of time to practice but if you are like me and you don't own or want a car and you have basically no driving experience but you still want a license because being legally allowed to drive really makes life easier in a lot of ways, it becomes a lot more complicated and annoying. like, at this point i could technically go test for the full license at any time except i haven't driven a car at all since august and i don't know the road laws here and i don't have a car that i can drive around to figure all that out so there's a really good chance i'll end up failing and it'll just end up being a huge waste of money and i already have a god damn license so i don't understand why it's going to expire and it's just so fucking dumb. driving is the worst.

may, the idea is that they want to make the roads safer by only letting experienced drivers drive on their own. the irony is that vancouver has easily some of the absolute worst drivers i have ever seen in my life. nearly every time i have gone out for a run i have been nearly hit by someone who didn't look at all before they pulled out or made a turn... actually, if british columbia's standards are that low maybe i could actually take the test without having driven in months and still be okay. hmmm.
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #93 on: 25 Nov 2010, 18:20 »

Complete 120 hours minimum driving practice (log book records the driving experience).

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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #94 on: 25 Nov 2010, 18:30 »

Me too, I have been trying to teach my boyfriend but it just keeps going forever and it seems like there will always be 100 hours left to go
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #95 on: 25 Nov 2010, 19:35 »

I just took a half semester class in school, then drove for like 8 hours during the summer. Didn't have to take any further tests, just went to the DMV and waited in line.
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #96 on: 25 Nov 2010, 23:00 »

I think it takes like 5 years to get a full licence here. Unless you're over 25 in which case it is fewer years, but it is still years.
Yeah, I'm so glad I just squeaked in under the old system where you could get a full license in as little as 18 months. Under the current system, the minimum time to get a full license is four years.

The Graduated Licensing Scheme is massively freighted with middle-class assumptions about easy access to vehicles, and willing, committed fully-licensed "supervising drivers" (usually family members) who must ride with the trainees until they graduate to P1 plates. To complete the mandatory 120 hours of logged training in the minimum 12 months obviously requires 10 hours per month on the road from the trainee and supervising driver. Better start early, and hope you come from the sort of stable, supportive, fairly prosperous family environment the legislators assumed you do. Good luck if your circumstances differ from their rosy fantasies. And need I mention that having at least a Provisional license is a requirement for quite a lot of jobs?

Ironically, it is now easier and quicker in New South Wales to get a motorcycle license than a car license. To get mobile on a motorbike:
  • Take 7 hours of "pre-license training". This is held off public roads at approved training centres, and they provide bikes, helmets and gloves. Assuming you pass the course, you are issued with a Pre-learner Certificate of Competence.
  • Take your certificate to the RTA, take the eyesight test, and sit the computer-administered "knowledge test". If you pass, you are issued your L-plates and learners license, valid for 12 months.
  • The clock is now ticking. You have 12 months to get a learner-approved bike, helmet etc., develop your skills, and pass the next step, the pre-provisional course. If you fail to do this, you go right back to square one and restart the process at pre-licence training. You must spend at least three months on L-plates before you're allowed to take the pre-provisional course, but beyond that there is no monitoring of your experience, no log books, and no need for a supervising driver.
  • Take the pre-provisional course, and pass the Motorcycle Operator Skill Test at the end of it.
  • Go back to the RTA and obtain your P1-plates and provisional license.
  • Ride on your P1s for 12 months, your P2s for 24 months, stay out of trouble, and the RTA will issue you with a shiny silver full license.

As you can see, you can be fully licensed in a minimum of 39 months instead of 48, and the minimum time on L-plates is a lot easier to achieve. I guess the NSW government thinks kids are better off on motorcycles than in cars...
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #97 on: 25 Nov 2010, 23:36 »

wow you guys got it bad.

in turkey, you just get a 60 hour course on first aid, rules signs etc and mechanics, and a 10 hour driving course with an appointed trainer. then you take a test, if you pass, drive half a mile with a trainer, a police officer and a ministry of education representative. you get your license about 20 days later. the whole thing takes less than 2 months.
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #98 on: 25 Nov 2010, 23:48 »

Old and busted:
Third gen camaro. Totally bitchin in an awful way, v6 that used more oil than gas and a 5-speed manual transmission.


New hotness:
First gen Miata, It's like driving a go-kart everywhere I go. Plus that purple is FABULOUS and you all know it.



I also have these old things sitting around:
The one in the front is the one I wrecked a couple years ago.



Interesting aside:
I saw this at the store a while back(not my photo), I pretty much would never drive anything else if I had one.
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Re: Can we talk about vehicles?
« Reply #99 on: 26 Nov 2010, 04:42 »

Actually thinking about it I think you now have to have a year's worth of lessons before you can take your practical driving test, but when I was learning I could have taken my paper test, then my practical test straight away. I remember reading in the paper about a boy who had been driving off-road in competitions for years before he turned 17, so the day he turned 17 he took his paper test, passed it, booked his practical test for like the next week or something, and then passed that. No requirement for driving hours or anything, just straight-up proved his competence and got handed his licence aged 17 and 7 days. Makes sense really. The problem here is they let people like me drive, people who go round corners in fifth on their test and cause their examiner to hit her head on the window (why did she even pass me? The first guy failed me on much less than that!).
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