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WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« on: 16 Jan 2011, 05:57 »

It just wouldn't be a Sunday without a new thread - and a new poll!

Waffles and Steak... mmm. Boy, I wish there was a Waffle House in Wisconsin.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #1 on: 16 Jan 2011, 06:22 »

I predict the first in a long and tortuous series of Dora's therapies as we are beckoned deep into the warped psyche of jeph's devising.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #2 on: 16 Jan 2011, 09:37 »

It'll be the entire cast hanging around a BBQ, casually chatting.  The cast will all look slightly different and be dressed atypically.

The speech bubbles will reveal that the cast have a variety of accents, none of which are similar to what we percieve them to be.

The conversations will revolve around "the next project"

Last panel will be a panorama shot showing a banner with the words "QC:  the Movie Wrap Up party"
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #3 on: 16 Jan 2011, 10:26 »

Steak...
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #4 on: 16 Jan 2011, 11:27 »

The aftermath of tropical storm Veronica?

Son, we're only just hitting the eye of the storm and the devestation yet to come will be so much worse.

Not really, I reckon this have blown over, bring on the steak.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #5 on: 16 Jan 2011, 14:54 »

Indeed, Dale must be ready for Marigoldfarm now.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #6 on: 16 Jan 2011, 19:42 »

I'm hoping Veronica's little CoD visit leads to (at some point, it's only been a couple days, after all ...) some sort of conversation between Marten and Dora.  Not a makeup/relationship reset, but them being willing to talk to each other, or even just be in the same room, to keep the social circle from fracturing too much / keep Faye from feeling too awkward about the whole thing.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #7 on: 16 Jan 2011, 20:00 »

I'm hoping Veronica's little CoD visit leads to (at some point, it's only been a couple days, after all ...) some sort of conversation between Marten and Dora.  Not a makeup/relationship reset, but them being willing to talk to each other, or even just be in the same room, to keep the social circle from fracturing too much / keep Faye from feeling too awkward about the whole thing.

Marten wouldn't let things get awkward between his friends. He seems like the kinda guy that could fade into the background were he not the main character, instead he is the voice of reason, so if it came down to hanging between his friends hanging out with him or they had made plans to do something with Dora, he'd tell them to go hangout with Dora. But I do think that things might be awkward between himself and Dora for a while yet. There could be a couple of weeks yet before he purposefully goes to see Dora (accidently is another matter, and from what I can tell, thats not exactly the largest town, so they will be bound to run into each other eventually).
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #8 on: 16 Jan 2011, 21:51 »

Is going to CoD for coffee purposeful or accidental?
And what is *not* going to CoD for coffee?
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #9 on: 16 Jan 2011, 23:51 »

I have absolutely no idea how Marten and Doras next meeting will look like.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #10 on: 17 Jan 2011, 00:27 »

I predict that this week, there will be... talking.  :-D And grits.  :-P With brown sugar. :evil:
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #11 on: 17 Jan 2011, 00:37 »

... :-D And grits.  :-P With brown sugar. :evil:

May you suffer the heartburn you so richly deserve for desecrating wholesome grits with nasty brown sugar!!! :x :-o :roll: :evil:
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #12 on: 17 Jan 2011, 00:53 »

As a native Southerner I'm sure Faye would have a definite opinion on the great grits debate
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #13 on: 17 Jan 2011, 01:23 »

*longtime lurker first time poster   :roll:*


I predict a week off from the breakup and we either get faye makeouts with angus or hanners & marigold (since we've had no notion of her being in the loop this week)
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #14 on: 17 Jan 2011, 02:12 »

Prepare the Gin and Fainting Couches!
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #15 on: 17 Jan 2011, 02:15 »

We know what the Pugnacious Peach considers to be the ultimate food, and it's not grits.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #16 on: 17 Jan 2011, 02:16 »

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Actually, I remember how easily stupid remarks like that could come tumbling out just after my divorce - just one big long embarrassment that period was.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #17 on: 17 Jan 2011, 02:16 »

Maybe Hanners can cure awkward with her Big Book of Kitties?
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #18 on: 17 Jan 2011, 02:17 »

That's gonna require some serious ridiculosity to defeat that awkward zone!
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #19 on: 17 Jan 2011, 02:19 »

 :-o WELL. DONE. MARTEN.

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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #20 on: 17 Jan 2011, 02:25 »

At least he didn't get punched. Yet, anyway.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #21 on: 17 Jan 2011, 02:44 »

I think Marten is taking subconscious lessons from Sven in "How To Fuck Up In Social Situations", like he and Sven's dreamselves are meeting and hashing out what to say.

I mean, I feel for the boy, but daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang
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« Reply #22 on: 17 Jan 2011, 02:48 »

Well, we all know now exactly from whom Marten got his talent for awkard comments.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #23 on: 17 Jan 2011, 02:54 »

According to 437 his dad was like that. If awkward speech is genetic, Marten's got a real problem.

Especially if his mom's genes are dominant.

Yes, I did that on purpose.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #24 on: 17 Jan 2011, 02:56 »

hmm....marten is still alive or not even half dead
im dissapointed, pintsize would have totally gotten another dent in that situation

but how do we defeat awkwardness? maximum ridiculosity  :-D
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #25 on: 17 Jan 2011, 02:57 »

Eh.  Coulda been worse.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #26 on: 17 Jan 2011, 03:02 »

Nice-tits-can-I-shit-on-them worse or Marten-and-Fay-burst-into-tears-over-suppressed-longing worse?
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #27 on: 17 Jan 2011, 03:13 »

Marten wouldn't let things get awkward between his friends.

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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #28 on: 17 Jan 2011, 03:49 »

I'm hoping I'm not the only one who thinks Marten's comment isn't entirely an inexplicable case of foot-in-mouth.  It's almost a cliche at this point that couples who aren't compatible and get into all sorts of arguments have wild, passionate sex (until the breakup, at least).  Of course, you don't say that to the person you'd be having hypothetical wild, passionate sex with...
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #29 on: 17 Jan 2011, 04:30 »

Especially if his mom's genes are dominant.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #31 on: 17 Jan 2011, 05:49 »

Well, other than saying that she was completely normal to Hanner's face--which would be "nice" for Hanners to know, really (that odd case of someone that obviously genuinely believes that she's not psychotic), and ripping Marten a new one, she's been the epitome of "not mean," given the obvious comparison to her own mother, who dared her to touch the men's toilet seat at a bar.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #32 on: 17 Jan 2011, 05:54 »

I'm not certain that you can generate enough ridiculosity to defeat that awkward zone any time soon.

The only solution is for Marty to join the Foreign Legion - or maybe apologize, whichever's easier.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #33 on: 17 Jan 2011, 06:12 »

Well, other than saying that she was completely normal to Hanner's face--which would be "nice" for Hanners to know, really (that odd case of someone that obviously genuinely believes that she's not psychotic), and ripping Marten a new one, she's been the epitome of "not mean," given the obvious comparison to her own mother, who dared her to touch the men's toilet seat at a bar.

WORD. WORD TO THIS. Man, I don't care if you think Veronica is a really flaming huge bitch, there is no way, and I mean no way she is as bad as Hanners' mother. Like....there's not even a comparison. One is kind of rude, the other is fuckin' Darth Vader in a pantsuit, all there really is to say on the matter.  Hanners probably thinks Veronica is sweetness and light.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #34 on: 17 Jan 2011, 06:31 »

Yes, compared to Ms. Chatham, Ms. Reed is a bundle of laughs.

Probably why the two are never in the same social circles.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #35 on: 17 Jan 2011, 06:53 »

Well, this was probably a one-off strip, I hope they don't continue pursuing the awkwardness nor try to defeat it, and just let it slide into the oblivion it deserves. 

But, there's something interesting in the Marten-Faye-Mama triangle here...

Marten's usually pretty good at picking up on cues, and empathizing with people (he has his blind spots, and Dora's insecurities was one of them, but I digress).  But here, he totally misses Faye's incredulity at his mohter's comment.  Clearly, Faye disagreed with Ms. Reed's assessment (what that says about Faye is another matter). 

Instead, Marten (without putting much real  thought into it, he only just heard the idea) sees his mother's point of view. 

If I had a nickel for every argument I've had with my wife where my mother's point of view (or comments) was at the root of it... well, I'd have quite a few nickels.  This isn't a blind spot because he's close to the issue; this is one relationship being overridden by another!  And laughing it off nervously?  Not  a smooth move. 

And I think that's where the awkwardness comes in.  Better to just let it die a natural death.  Somebody should suggest going out for waffles or something....

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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #36 on: 17 Jan 2011, 07:01 »

it'd have to be pretty ridiculous waffles then....
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #37 on: 17 Jan 2011, 08:19 »

Well, if there was any chance at all of the Marten-Faye ship limping to port, Marten's offhand comment just blew that chance out of the water. That ship is now on it's way to the bottom of a deep ocean trench. In pieces.

They'll be lucky if they can maintain a decent friendship after this.


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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #38 on: 17 Jan 2011, 08:27 »

Faye: audience avatar. Hannelore: not so much. Really nice? Really? REAALLLYYY!?  :psyduck:

I wonder if they have tea in those mugs. Tea... with sugar.

Back to Faye, at least part of her incredulity is because she already had one of those relationships - with Sven.
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« Reply #39 on: 17 Jan 2011, 08:36 »

They'll be lucky if they can maintain a decent friendship after this.

Oh, hell no.  If a friendship can't withstand a little awkwardness, it wasn't much of a friendship in the first place!  Their friendship's built on more than the underlying sexual tension/attraction they had for one another at the beginning.  If that were all there were, then yes, this would've torpedoed it.  This is nothing more than some choppy seas. 

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« Reply #40 on: 17 Jan 2011, 08:38 »

They'll be lucky if they can maintain a decent friendship after this.

Oh, hell no.  If a friendship can't withstand a little awkwardness, it wasn't much of a friendship in the first place!  Their friendship's built on more than the underlying sexual tension/attraction they had for one another at the beginning.  If that were all there were, then yes, this would've torpedoed it.  This is nothing more than some choppy seas. 

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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #41 on: 17 Jan 2011, 08:56 »

There seems to be as much romantic tension as ever between Marten and Faye.  Over the past few days (in comic time), both characters have been acting equivocally on the matter.  Faye seemed to be trying to convince herself that Marten wasn't right for her with that Toto mini-arc a while back (and more recently, with the Nautical Metaphor discussion with Angus), but it's pretty clear from the last couple strips that there's still something there.  Marten's actions have been more subtle, but equally ambiguous.  He's dismissive of the idea of a relationship with Faye in today's strip, but when he was hammered a couple nights ago, it sure seemed like he was still interested in her.


I have to say, when Marten basically begged for a punching with the "amazing sex" comment, but Faye just sat there looking rejected, it was one of the saddest things I've ever seen in the comic.  Faye too sad to punch Marten?  Daaaaaaang.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #42 on: 17 Jan 2011, 09:05 »

Well, if there was any chance at all of the Marten-Faye ship limping to port, Marten's offhand comment just blew that chance out of the water. That ship is now on it's way to the bottom of a deep ocean trench. In pieces.
There wasn't any chance at all. Jeph has been hammering that point home pretty strongly in both the strip and in his comments under the strip. It's getting a bit tiresome now. We know, Jeph. I'm sure you're probably sick of the shippers right now, but please don't take it out on everyone. The forum has been well behaved lately.

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I really hope you're wrong. Then again, in my circles that 'awkward zone' would last about two minutes until someone else made a vulgar remark about something less sensitive. It shouldn't be that big of a deal, really.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #43 on: 17 Jan 2011, 09:10 »

Now she kicks him out, and he's left in another building, away from Hannelore, too far to commute to the library, Steve is called up into active duty again, and...

OR this just defuses harmlessly.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #44 on: 17 Jan 2011, 09:13 »

There seems to be as much romantic tension as ever between Marten and Faye.  Over the past few days (in comic time), both characters have been acting equivocally on the matter.
I'd love to be able to agree with you, but Jeph has pretty much sunk the ship with a nuclear warhead. I think the only thing at issue here is Faye's natural vanity, her assumption that of course she'd be a great girlfriend for Marten and that he'd be damned lucky to have her. Marten has certainly always played up to that impression in the past, giving her a welcome boost to her self-esteem whenever she needed it.
He's dismissive of the idea of a relationship with Faye in today's strip, but when he was hammered a couple nights ago, it sure seemed like he was still interested in her.

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You don't suppose that when he was plastered, he just saw a pair of fine boobs and a big round ass and lunged for them? I don't know about you, but I don't make rational decisions about relationships when I'm drunk, I think with my libido instead. Bad decisions frequently result.

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I have to say, when Marten basically begged for a punching with the "amazing sex" comment, but Faye just sat there looking rejected, it was one of the saddest things I've ever seen in the comic.  Faye too sad to punch Marten?  Daaaaaaang.
I do consider your interpretation one of the possibilities, but it's also possible that she reacted with horror rather than with feelings of rejection. It's also possible that she was expecting and hoping to get the aforementioned ego-stroking treatment that she has always got from Marten before now, and was just sad because this is the first time he's ever failed to play up to her. Even when he was drunk, he still affirmed her status as a desirable and sexy woman.

Now she kicks him out, and he's left in another building, away from Hannelore, too far to commute to the library, Steve is called up into active duty again, and...
That would be a huge over-reaction, don't you think? If she didn't kick him out for drunken attempts to hit on her, she's not going to do so for this... and besides, one tenant in a shared apartment can't just kick the other one out. At least not where I come from...
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #45 on: 17 Jan 2011, 09:18 »

Marten's drunk comments and actions could be taken as hostile. We don't know what he did, but Faye certainly wasn't playful about punching him.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #46 on: 17 Jan 2011, 09:22 »

Marten's drunk comments and actions could be taken as hostile. We don't know what he did, but Faye certainly wasn't playful about punching him.
Is that in response to me? I certainly agree with your point, but you have to admit, it didn't break the trend of his reactions to her. That's an important point. Until today's strip, he has never varied in his assessment of her as a potential girlfriend. Even when he was with Dora, he never said "Well, thank God I dodged that bullet."

If I've missed your point, please elaborate. :)

NB: I have edited my post, since it appears that I didn't quote the points I was responding to correctly. Please re-read my post above to see if that clarifies what I was trying to say.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #47 on: 17 Jan 2011, 09:26 »

Faye too sad to punch Marten?  Daaaaaaang.

I, however, am ready to punch your avatar.  

In the face.  

Frequently.  

And yes, I live in "Nittany Lion Country"  

We are NOT  Penn State, dammit!  

On the other hand, I have nothing against you personally or your comments.   :-D  It's just that seeing that wizened visage that's been put on a pedestal for the last few generations makes my blood boil...
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #48 on: 17 Jan 2011, 09:28 »

When (as I said earlier) I made similarly crass remarks during the fallout from my breakup and divorce, I lost one friend for ever - who had been sympathetic and helpful up to that point - but others just let the remarks fly past with a pained expression.  However, this remark is certainly less awful than the one that lost me a friend; and I can't really see Jeph wanting to reconfigure the QC world too much more than is already happening - not all in one go!
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2010 (1841-45)
« Reply #49 on: 17 Jan 2011, 09:30 »

Is it strange that I don't even consider what Marten said to be a problem? It was a vulgar wisecrack, and that's all.

Any friend you could lose with that remark is a friend you never really had.
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