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Best Potential New Character?

Faerie Girl!
- 33 (30.6%)
Cross-Neck Guy!
- 9 (8.3%)
Muscle-Shirt Guy!
- 4 (3.7%)
Long-haired Bakery Girl!
- 17 (15.7%)
Short-haired Bakery Girl!
- 17 (15.7%)
Vladek!
- 22 (20.4%)
Waffle Guy!
- 6 (5.6%)

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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #350 on: 22 Jan 2011, 18:36 »

No (that was her "nightmare" clone) and no (FAR from either girl).
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #351 on: 22 Jan 2011, 18:38 »

Best Potential New Character?

Faerie Girl!    - 22 (29.3%)
Vladek!    - 14 (18.7%)
Long-haired Bakery Girl!    - 13 (17.3%)
Short-haired Bakery Girl!    - 11 (14.7%)
Cross-Neck Guy!    - 9 (12%)
Muscle-Shirt Guy!    - 3 (4%)
Waffle Guy!    - 3 (4%)

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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #352 on: 22 Jan 2011, 19:18 »

The spiral kneading machine definitely would - big, heavy duty electric motor (some of 'em run on 220 current), and an older under-maintained one with cracking insulation on the wires is ripe for overheating.  Give it a little splash of oil or butter by accident, and voila!  Instant disaster!
"220 current"? Is that USAnian for three-phase electric power or something? Most of the world uses 200-240V mains power just to run its toasters, kettles etc.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #353 on: 22 Jan 2011, 20:22 »

He's referring to the voltage.  US and I think most North American countries run the 110V, and most of Europe rolls with the 220V.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #354 on: 22 Jan 2011, 20:28 »

That's right.

"Standard" US two and three prong outlets run off 110v.

The heavy-duty stuff, the higher voltage items (like dryers and things) run off an entirely differently shaped plug, like this-

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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #355 on: 22 Jan 2011, 22:32 »

Actually its 120V 60Hz and 240V(two phases, two 120V lines and a ground) 60Hz, while Europe mostly uses 220V 50Hz.

The actual delivered power varies some due to losses, but if you actually put a multimeter on a US outlet it SHOULD read around 115-125V.

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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #356 on: 22 Jan 2011, 22:40 »

Actually, the term "220v" and "240v" in terms of outlet are used interchangeably- which is why the government itself refers to that style of plug as a "220v" outlet. The reason for this is because the power company's power can differ as much as 10% (but not more than that), so for a 220v/240v outlet the amount supplied can range BETWEEN that...

http://www.energy.gov/news/7544.htm


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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #357 on: 22 Jan 2011, 22:49 »

http://gizmodo.com/5391271/giz-explains-why-every-country-has-a-different-fing-plug

Basically there are so many different plugs and voltages around because of fighting and blatant disregard of what other countries were doing.

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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #358 on: 22 Jan 2011, 23:04 »

Electricity in the United States is fluoridated. This annoys other countries to no end.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #359 on: 22 Jan 2011, 23:43 »

Even within the US, it took a little while for electrical current to be standardized - the original generators at Niagra Falls (in the 1890's) provided DC current...
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #360 on: 23 Jan 2011, 00:50 »

Actually, the term "220v" and "240v" in terms of outlet are used interchangeably

As part of the moves towards the integration of Britain with Europe, the European standard voltage of 220V and the British 240V standard were "harmonised" by redefining them both as 230V +10%,-6%.  This enabled the generating companies to continue without changing any of their equipment or settings at all.  Last weekend, when I was doing some checks in the computer room at work, the voltage was standing at 253V; it rose briefly to 254V, and a couple of UPSs turned on their over-voltage indicators.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #361 on: 23 Jan 2011, 01:00 »

I was referring to the US 220v standard, not the Euro one.

The European standard does make far more sense though. Why did they set the standard so low for us here in the States?
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #362 on: 23 Jan 2011, 01:24 »

Edison chose 110V to suit the carbon light bulbs he'd developed, and it was used initially everywhere.  In 1899, a company in Berlin decided to double the voltage in order to halve the current and thus double the capacity of their cabling (or halve the cost of it), and this change became standard in Europe (and the more durable tungsten light bulbs were developed at about this time).

Three-phase high-power supplies are used industrially in Europe, with a voltage of 415V; this is not the same as the US 220V power which is just bridging across two phases (there is no European equivalent of this practice).
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #363 on: 23 Jan 2011, 02:08 »

So is Pintsize 110, 220 or batteries? How about Winslow? Momo? (actually, since Winslow is an Apple and Momo a Sony, neither are likely compatible with anything.)
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #364 on: 23 Jan 2011, 02:18 »

I would imagine they all have high density rechargeable batteries, that plug into standard household 110V AC with some kind of adapter/docking station.

It's highly unlikely they use 220V because the only things that run on 220 in most US homes are major appliances: electric stoves, dryers, HVAC equipment and water heaters.

It's possible that they all run on miniature nuclear reactors, but I doubt it.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #365 on: 23 Jan 2011, 05:12 »

On-board reactors! 

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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #366 on: 23 Jan 2011, 06:04 »

It's possible that they all run on miniature nuclear reactors, but I doubt it.

For the love of god, don't cross the streams! Especially Pintsize's!
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #367 on: 23 Jan 2011, 09:17 »

I'd want to know where Momo's hook-up is... but only in her big sized self.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #368 on: 23 Jan 2011, 09:21 »

And once more it is demonstrated that there are only 37 people in the universe.  That's why you keep running into them.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #369 on: 23 Jan 2011, 12:50 »

Hey, I remember you! 

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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #370 on: 23 Jan 2011, 13:34 »

Will one of them be Vladek? Oh please let one of them be Vladek.

(Unlikely perhaps but I want to see the man behind the fists. I imagine him scarred, on his arms and hands more than his face, a moustache that is grey and thick and proud. His eyes speak of dark deeds in the name of his Rodina; his perpetual grimace of his livid contempt for his current occupation.

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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #371 on: 23 Jan 2011, 13:38 »

Whenever you talk about tvtropes, you're supposed to add a link.

So that readers get stuck in the bottomless black hole that is a tvtropes visit.... 

Really, it's a delightful time-suck on par with many games.   :|
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #372 on: 23 Jan 2011, 14:19 »

I'd want to know where Momo's hook-up is... but only in her big sized self.

That's NOT  a USB port
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #373 on: 23 Jan 2011, 14:38 »

And once more it is demonstrated that there are only 37 people in the universe.  That's why you keep running into them.

Is there a formalized name for that "rule"? Because I am in fact under that impression when meeting new people. I think "hey, that girl is kinda like that one girl in my primary school, mixed with elements from that other girl from junior high".
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #374 on: 23 Jan 2011, 15:06 »

Pintsize rejoiced over Marten getting an income because it would ensure him a source of "delicious alternating current". There's never been a mention of batteries, but presumably if they had their own reactors then they wouldn't need house current.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #375 on: 23 Jan 2011, 16:15 »

Rechargeable batteries, then.
To change the subject completely, it'd be something if one or more of these Secret Bakery people (say, the short one who shares Faye's casual attitude toward things burning off-panel) was/were the PP's old neighbor(s) from the BlazingToaster apartments.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #376 on: 23 Jan 2011, 16:18 »

It WOULD explain the fire that set off the smoke alarm...
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #377 on: 23 Jan 2011, 16:57 »

.... Did anyone ever really establish that it was Pintsize's laser that did in the TV and bookcase in Marten's old apartment? Really, all we know is that the PP walked in from offpanel, strangely unflustered, and announced their immolation from unspecified causes ...
And what's this about Faye trying to set people on fire with her mind?
Just askin' ...
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #378 on: 23 Jan 2011, 18:09 »

She has to set people on fire with her mind because sometimes there's no toaster available.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #379 on: 24 Jan 2011, 00:28 »

Pintsize rejoiced over Marten getting an income because it would ensure him a source of "delicious alternating current". There's never been a mention of batteries, but presumably if they had their own reactors then they wouldn't need house current.

Yeah, but if you were on welfare living off food stamps you'd be overjoyed about getting an income so you could visit a nice restauarant, wouldn't you?

Knowing Pintsize, it's probably more like a drug anyway.  We all produce endorphins, but whooo-hoo brother, pass the Valium.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #380 on: 24 Jan 2011, 07:29 »

I was kind of under the impression that cross-neck guy and "ruin the friendship" guy were genderflipped Dora and Faye.
(It's not a stretch that the 'cross on the neck guy' could be a recovering goth, as well... 'Ruin the friendship guy would probably be gender-astereotypical 'haha he's sensitive' funny the way Dora's meant to be 'haha, she issues beatdowns for spurious reasons' gender-astereotypical funny.)

In any case, I think a "Secret Bakery" idea would probably sell like, er, hotcakes. People love to be in on a private deal, or at least pretend that they are. That's partly why people come up with in-jokes and such from things they like- it's a 'belonging to/taking symbolic ownership' kind of thing.
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #381 on: 24 Jan 2011, 10:57 »

Random thought (and testing of my linkage-fu), but has anyone noticed that Vladek and "Butcher" look remarkably alike?
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #382 on: 24 Jan 2011, 13:50 »

It's a coincidence....

Really...
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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #383 on: 24 Jan 2011, 19:27 »

They're cousins.

Nearly Identical Cousins.








Either that or they're what's left of the Former Soviet Union's efforts to create an army of cloned super-soldiers.
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« Reply #384 on: 24 Jan 2011, 20:58 »

Whenever you talk about tvtropes, you're supposed to add a link.

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Re: WCDT: 17-21 January 2011 (1841-45)
« Reply #385 on: 26 Jan 2011, 13:50 »

Is the secret bakery girls indian or black?
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« Reply #386 on: 26 Jan 2011, 14:05 »

Is the secret bakery girls indian or black?

Yes.
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