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satsugaikaze · « **Reply #3 on:** 24 Mar 2011, 16:32 »

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Robert Pattinson and Justin Timberlake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjE0MncZmEA

Method of Madness · « **Reply #4 on:** 24 Mar 2011, 18:44 »

Oddly enough, I have no problem with Justin Timberlake. He's actually surprisingly solid as an actor. As for Robert Pattinson, I haven't seen anything with him since Harry Potter 4, so I have no idea if he can act or not.

satsugaikaze · « **Reply #5 on:** 25 Mar 2011, 04:40 »

It just seems odd to choose a list of the whitest of white guys and still put the names "Tetsuo" and "Kaneda" in the same sentence.

In fact, it feels odd to call the movie "Akira" when the setting is in "New Manhattan".

I guess that also means that if they actually adapted it, say, ala the way Scorcese adapted Infernal Affairs, I wouldn't have as much of an issue with it, but as it stands it just feels so culturally off.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #6 on:** 25 Mar 2011, 05:30 »

There are so many questions.

Like, if this is going to be based on the manga, rather than the film, who's going to replace the Americans (who turn up in book three or four and start trying to assassinate Akira and Tetsuo before etc. etc. spoilers etc.)? Is it just going to be...the Americans? Like their own government? Because that changes the plot quite a lot. Like the relationship between the Colonel and the Americans, how is that going to be handled?

I mean, don't get me wrong, the idea of a new adaptation of Akira has some legs. The Manga is a monumental work, six volumes of about five hundred pages each, beautifully drawn and well plotted. The anime film, though excellent (particularly in terms of soundtrack and visual flair) Only really takes the story to the end of the second book (then ranges a few fragments of the third and fourth in) and leaves it all rather mangled, which is a large source of the 'WTF factor'. The story also benefits a lot from the deepened characterisations of people like The Colonel and Joker (who barely even appears and doesn't speak in the film), Lady Miyazako (who also barely appears, as a completely different character), Tetsuo's sinister aide-de-campe, and of course Chiyoko.

But this is going to be shitting dreadful.

The Seldom Killer · « **Reply #7 on:** 25 Mar 2011, 05:58 »

I have to concur, any film that casts people like Pattinson and Timberlake is very clearly trying to release to the broadest possible audience, otherwise known as the mainstream. The American movie industry has regularly fallen down when trying to deliver Science Fiction to the mainstream with other than the simplest of scenarios and the same can be said of extra-national cultural storylines. Attempting both with what I would guess is a percieved need to pursue heavy simplification is unlikely to be successful from a quality point of view.

It's a pity because I suspect that the American audience is a lot smarter than the industry gives them credit for. That said, the fiasco of The Madness of King George does call for much psyducking.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #8 on:** 25 Mar 2011, 06:33 »

What Fiasco? You mean the name change?

Method of Madness · « **Reply #9 on:** 25 Mar 2011, 13:03 »

Wait, what the shit? New Manhattan? So they're saying Manhattan was nuked to shit instead of Tokyo? That's...interesting.

KvP · « **Reply #10 on:** 25 Mar 2011, 15:37 »

This was never going to turn out well. It doesn't matter what actors they cast.

Ikrik · « **Reply #11 on:** 25 Mar 2011, 16:40 »

It's being directed by the Hughes Brothers and they're aiming for a PG13 rating. That was literally all I needed to hear before clocking out.

Honestly, I didn't mind so much when DiCaprio was attached to it as his track record is absolutely fantastic. But yeah, we'll see where this ends up going. I want to see a trailer for this, I really do.

Cartilage Head · « **Reply #12 on:** 25 Mar 2011, 17:31 »

I think this would be a good role for Justin Timberlake to really step up as an actor. It could go both ways, but he can definitely act.

However, the correct choice for Tetsuo and Kaneda would obviously be Cillian Murphy and James Franco.

Kugai · « **Reply #13 on:** 25 Mar 2011, 21:06 »

"Waiter, cheque please!"

J · « **Reply #14 on:** 26 Mar 2011, 00:05 »

is there a reason beyond the obvious why the same story needs to be told a third time? it's all ready a comic book and a cartoon, so is there anything to be gained by moving it into a third medium?

Inlander · « **Reply #15 on:** 26 Mar 2011, 00:17 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 25 Mar 2011, 05:30

if this is going to be based on the manga, rather than the film, who's going to replace the Americans (who turn up in book three or four and start trying to assassinate Akira and Tetsuo before etc. etc. spoilers etc.)? Is it just going to be...the Americans?

They'll be English, of course! Honestly Khar, it's as if you'd never watched a Hollywood movie that was made in the last, say, thirty years.

The Seldom Killer · « **Reply #16 on:** 28 Mar 2011, 06:16 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 25 Mar 2011, 06:33

What Fiasco? You mean the name change?

Yes, yes I do.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #17 on:** 29 Mar 2011, 01:31 »

Supposedly, it's a myth that they changed the title because Americans would think 'The Madness of George III' was a sequel. Apparently the reason for the switch to 'The Madness of King George' was to sell the fact that George II was a king up-front, though given when George III reigned you'd have though most educated Americans would have some idea who he was.

As for why switch the medium, I think you could fairly argue that the original film didn't do the plot or the overarching themes of the manga justice. That's no reason to remake it live action of course. Its natural format for the screen would be a six-episode high-budget OVA, or a 13 episode series. Anything longer than that might be pushing it, but there's parts particularly of the 3rd to 5th books that need to be quite still and atmospheric. That said the entire 6th book is mostly one big hyper-mutating trans-dimensional punch-up, so...

The Seldom Killer · « **Reply #18 on:** 29 Mar 2011, 04:51 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 29 Mar 2011, 01:31

Supposedly, it's a myth that they changed the title because Americans would think 'The Madness of George III' was a sequel. Apparently the reason for the switch to 'The Madness of King George' was to sell the fact that George II was a king up-front, though given when George III reigned you'd have though most educated Americans would have some idea who he was.

Wasn't aware of the urban myth. I'd always understood that the change was to confirm for American audiences that the film was about a king because exits on early screenings reported that they hadn't been aware of this going in. Apparently any promotional imagery such as trailers and the like weren't sufficient. It seems rather incongruous that you'd go to a film without any forewarning and come out unpleasantly surprised that it centred around a member of European royalty. Still, some people were even caught off guard by Snakes On A Plane so maybe not that surprising.

Perhaps the studio will need to change the name of Akira to something like "Japanese Headfuck Conspiracy Post-Apocalyptic Wierdness So STFU If You Haven't Seen The Animated Version You Clueless Fucks".

KharBevNor · « **Reply #19 on:** 29 Mar 2011, 07:02 »

I would bet like, £100 (Monopoly) on them renaming it 'Adam' or something.

Jace · « **Reply #20 on:** 29 Mar 2011, 08:20 »

It'll be called akira, but will center on Adam, recalling the myth of Akira while trying to fight off government agents.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #21 on:** 29 Mar 2011, 08:41 »

Everyone will be wearing sunglasses all the time.

Dliessmgg · « **Reply #22 on:** 29 Mar 2011, 15:48 »

There will be lens flare and teal/orange everywhere.

Kugai · « **Reply #23 on:** 29 Mar 2011, 16:00 »

Quote from: Dliessmgg on 29 Mar 2011, 15:48

There will be lens flare and teal/orange everywhere.

No, that's been reserved for the next JJ Trek film

Blyss · « **Reply #24 on:** 30 Mar 2011, 06:43 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 24 Mar 2011, 15:57

Yeah... Pretty much.

Sorflakne · « **Reply #25 on:** 30 Mar 2011, 20:54 »

Now taking bets as to whether this will be another Dragonball Evolution.

satsugaikaze · « **Reply #26 on:** 31 Mar 2011, 16:23 »

The only thing it will have in common is the fact that it will be bad and everyone will have called it already

as with most adaptations of anything

Ikrik · « **Reply #27 on:** 31 Mar 2011, 23:59 »

My friend was wondering how they were going to include the themes from the original into this. All I could do was stare blankly at him for a while.

Are we already comparing it to Dragonball? Ow. I was hoping that it would turn out to be like Resident Evil. Horrible but at least watchable. We are all going to compare it to the original and in that respect it is going to suck. The question is whether it's going to be an enjoyable popcorn flick.

J · « **Reply #28 on:** 01 Apr 2011, 00:48 »

Quote from: George Takei

Live action of anime classic Akira will use white actors. In related news, remake of Roots to star Mel Gibson. #ShameOnWB

KharBevNor · « **Reply #29 on:** 01 Apr 2011, 04:06 »

Cracked recently pointed out the uncomfortable fact that this film is blatantly going to be about 9/11.

JD · « **Reply #30 on:** 01 Apr 2011, 08:03 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 01 Apr 2011, 04:06

Cracked recently pointed out the uncomfortable fact that this film is blatantly going to be about 9/11.

Will a crying eagle be included in the cast?

Method of Madness · « **Reply #31 on:** 01 Apr 2011, 13:28 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 01 Apr 2011, 04:06

Cracked recently pointed out the uncomfortable fact that this film is blatantly going to be about 9/11.

That makes no gorram sense. Unless 9/11 was just the catalyst of a series of events that led to the nuking of Manhattan.

Tom · « **Reply #32 on:** 01 Apr 2011, 14:30 »

Akira/Adam = 9/11. World War III follows and everybody lives in totalitarian-ish(?) Neo-Manhattan. That seems pretty lame.

Ã¶de · « **Reply #33 on:** 02 Apr 2011, 02:20 »

Does Tetsuo sparkle now?

Tom · « **Reply #34 on:** 02 Apr 2011, 02:34 »

He sparkles to critical mass then boom. Techno-organic messes are too much for the American movie-goer.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #35 on:** 02 Apr 2011, 05:07 »

Soundtrack by Linkin Park, with guest appearances by 50 Cent and Katy Perry.

Ã¶de · « **Reply #36 on:** 02 Apr 2011, 13:10 »

I literally feel sick now, in my stomach.

Kugai · « **Reply #37 on:** 03 Apr 2011, 17:07 »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s

Method of Madness · « **Reply #38 on:** 03 Apr 2011, 17:14 »

Quote from: Kugai on 03 Apr 2011, 17:07

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s

Blue Kitty · « **Reply #39 on:** 31 May 2011, 08:06 »

Update: Word is both Keanu and the director have walked away from this

Blyss · « **Reply #40 on:** 31 May 2011, 09:58 »

Fucking hell.

Kugai · « **Reply #41 on:** 31 May 2011, 12:08 »

Quote from: Blue Kitty on 31 May 2011, 08:06

Update: Word is both Keanu and the director have walked away from this

Lord have mercy, dey saw de light!!!!

SirDudley · « **Reply #42 on:** 13 Jul 2011, 21:28 »

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/07/13/akira-live-action-film-dead-chris-weston/

Project has apparently been officially shelved. Also, Chris Weston discusses how he committed the sin of butchering Kaneda's motorcycle.

Blue Kitty · « **Reply #43 on:** 15 Jul 2011, 10:38 »

Lol, nope

SirDudley · « **Reply #44 on:** 15 Jul 2011, 16:56 »

Quote from: Blue Kitty on 15 Jul 2011, 10:38

Lol, nope

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Blue Kitty · « **Reply #45 on:** 15 Jul 2011, 17:05 »

and other news

Kugai · « **Reply #46 on:** 15 Jul 2011, 21:32 »

@#!#$^&*$*$%^####!!!!!!!!!

MrSteevo · « **Reply #47 on:** 31 Oct 2011, 20:34 »

I'm part of the Iatsy Union in Vancouver and we just got news this is going to be filming in town. Looks like it's really happening.

JD · « **Reply #48 on:** 01 Nov 2011, 12:34 »

A movie based in japan then the setting changes to new york though it will actually be filmed in vancouver?

TheFuriousWombat · « **Reply #49 on:** 01 Nov 2011, 17:16 »

if I recall correctly, lots of movies film in Vancouver for some kind of complicated tax reason or something. Doesn't mean they will be actually filming the city, I would imagine a movie like this will be filmed largely in studios and on soundstages and in front of green screens and the like. Where it films will probably end up being irrelevant to everyone except those who are keeping the project on budget.

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