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Battlefield 3: DICE does good things
« on: 16 Apr 2011, 21:42 »

Holy shit guys. Teaser for Battlefield 3 got released. Watch it here (or any number of other places on the internet).

I'll admit I've been out of the gaming loop for a bit since my current laptop has not aged well. But that 12-minute teaser brought a tear to my eye. Battlefield 2 was probably the first shooter I got really in to, and this just looks like a whole leap forward for me. Can't wait to get a chance to play it.

I feel silly but part of me is bothered that they're jumping on the "take hits/duck behind cover to heal" approach. I will forever remember scrambling to find a medic in bf2 so he could drop healthpacks for me. I know this seems to be the industry default these days, but I am a stubborn one.
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Re: Battlefield 3: DICE does good things
« Reply #1 on: 16 Apr 2011, 22:38 »

Battlefield 3 looks fucking magical, visually. Looks great and will probably shoot great, etc. Probably won't get it until one or two price drops where I'm at.

As a side note, regenerating health systems in shooter games really need to stop.
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Re: Battlefield 3: DICE does good things
« Reply #2 on: 16 Apr 2011, 23:09 »

I had given up on Battlefield after 2 because CoD had actual story and was just as fun to play. Now the tables have turned and CoD has devolved into an MP hackfest with a vestigial SP mode tacked on. Now here comes Battlefield with what looks to be a possibly compelling SP mode. Then there's the fact it's like an orgasm for my eyes.
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Re: Battlefield 3: DICE does good things
« Reply #3 on: 17 Apr 2011, 00:54 »

regenerating health systems always lead to a much faster paced match than the old HP model, and I always preferred the slower pace because I just don't enjoy dying a lot even if I'm taking lots with me.
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« Reply #4 on: 17 Apr 2011, 03:05 »

I really only appreciated the CoD games up to Modern Warfare (the first one), because the moment I saw Russians being parachuted into American suburbia I knew that the shit had jumped the shark for good and suspension of disbelief was no longer necessary in the series.
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Re: Battlefield 3: DICE does good things
« Reply #5 on: 17 Apr 2011, 03:09 »

Yeah aside from the stupid endless bad guy supply the CoD games were the best in class for the linear shooter but what little I played of MW2 was just terrible. Stupidly over the top.
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« Reply #6 on: 17 Apr 2011, 04:19 »

I think it was a matter of the way Modern Warfare 2 handled the need to up the ante compared to Modern Warfare 1. It feels like they had to turn it up to 11 just to get the same rise out of players compared to their well-crafted MW1 pacing, so the first game ended up feeling more grounded in reality, if there ever was such a thing in the series.

It's sort of the same thing that happened between Bad Company and Bad Company 2. It's a shame, too, because there really were some very visually impressive set pieces in 2, but they did without the humour and down-to-earth plot of the first. That and the fact that the length was essentially the most vestigial I've seen in a shooter.

Such a pity.
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Re: Battlefield 3: DICE does good things
« Reply #7 on: 17 Apr 2011, 06:25 »

care beared up.

BF is for casuals, real men play COD MW2 in limited. fucking casuals
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« Reply #8 on: 17 Apr 2011, 08:30 »

Incidentally, does anyone like the Flashpoint series? There's a new one coming out and they are much bigger on realism compared to MW, MOH or BC.

Are you talking about Operation Flashpoint? =P

Because I had a ball with Dragon Rising. It's undervalued as a mil-sim arcade hybrid. It's also incredibly atmospheric without being full of explosions every 5 seconds: in fact there's a lot of tension because everything is dead quiet, and covered in knee-high grass and thick conifers so them damn Chinese can be poppin' up anywhere they like
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« Reply #9 on: 17 Apr 2011, 23:18 »

Buggy is new to me; I didn't have any real technical issues with the game. Dragon Rising combined some dynamic color palettes and some very neat open-ended gameplay choices and came out pretty well, if you ask me. Bullet physics felt a little wierd, but apart from that it did a neat job.
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Re: Battlefield 3: DICE does good things
« Reply #10 on: 18 Apr 2011, 02:19 »

I was always a huge fan of 42, but BF2 didn't appeal to me that much. I'll probably look into this and see how it goes. The trailer didn't excite me much, seems like yet another COD derivation. The stupid over-scripted singleplayer gameplay doesn't appeal to me at all.

Incidentally, does anyone like the Flashpoint series? There's a new one coming out and they are much bigger on realism compared to MW, MOH or BC.

I liked the original, but the second (which I believe was made by a different group) wasn't too great. I understand they're abandoning competitive multiplayer for this one, anyway, so that strikes it off my list.
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Re: Battlefield 3: DICE does good things
« Reply #11 on: 18 Apr 2011, 02:36 »

I don't know, really. I value multiplayer as much as the next guy who enjoys his shooters, but I think that games like Battlefield and Call of Duty have to have single-player components  that can stand on its own. I think multiplayer gameplay systems are not (and in all honesty depending on release prices) and should not be the most labor-intensive part of the game's initial development. A lot of developers for shooter franchises these days seem to place the multiplayer component above all else, likely because multiplayer extends the percieved longevity of the game and therefore appears to give more bang for the buck.

To me, however, I don't tend to dwell on a competitive scene too much unless the game I bought was solely designed to be competitive play. And especially for big-name shooter franchises founded on their storytelling component, sometimes it seems that their developer teams have forgotten the importance of an intensely well-crafted yarn. That's why despite the amount of thought and care put into Bad Company 2, I really really yearned for something more. There was so much care put into what little there was of the plot that I felt more of it would have made the game a truly complete shooter.

As for Battlefield 3, a lot of the marketing so far has been geared towards what appears to be a storyline, so fingers crossed.
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Re: Battlefield 3: DICE does good things
« Reply #12 on: 06 Jun 2011, 22:58 »

So more Battlefield 3 goodies coming out of E3. Like this tank battle guaranteed to make you cream your pants.

I want this game now. My PC is already sobbing in fear and I just built it in March.
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« Reply #13 on: 07 Jun 2011, 13:56 »

This is impressive. Normally I avoid military shooters like the plague, but Battlefield 3 certainly looks like a game I'd enjoy playing. And it looks really good as well, a quality that seems to be under-represented in the dust-choked world of warfare.
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« Reply #14 on: 07 Jun 2011, 21:13 »

I've been playing BF2 a bit lately, and my laptop can barely handle that  :cry:
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