Topic: Hail to the king? Anyone? (Read 18105 times)

xTheFreeMason · « **on:** 01 Jun 2011, 03:33 »

I sometimes feel that I'm the only person in the UK that's excited about Duke Nukem Forever. Surely you guys are? Badass one liners and copious sexual references are something that every QC fan likes, right?

Or maybe some of you played the original Duke Nukem games? In which case good for you. I wasn't born when the first one came out. Do you feel old now?

Tiogyr · « **Reply #1 on:** 01 Jun 2011, 06:26 »

It's difficult to get excited for a game that has been in development hell since 1997.

Blyss · « **Reply #2 on:** 01 Jun 2011, 06:29 »

I played the first one, and the following titles. Not particularly excited for this one. There are plenty of other titles out and coming out for me to part with my cash.

JD · « **Reply #3 on:** 01 Jun 2011, 11:48 »

even if you weren't around for the first one you can go back to it with the magic of modern technology.

But yeah what the two above me said.

ackblom12 · « **Reply #4 on:** 01 Jun 2011, 13:40 »

Fuck you guys this is going to be great.

Scandanavian War Machine · « **Reply #5 on:** 01 Jun 2011, 17:18 »

i'll believe it when i see it

i'm just bummed that Gearbox has been working on this and whatever their new game is, instead of Borderlands 2

because that's something to look forward to, i tell you what

est · « **Reply #6 on:** 02 Jun 2011, 02:39 »

Not overly excited for this.

Blue Kitty · « **Reply #7 on:** 02 Jun 2011, 08:58 »

I just don't know. Even though Gearbox is making it I still can't muster up any ounce of caring for Duke Nukem.

Tom · « **Reply #8 on:** 02 Jun 2011, 14:57 »

This is on my probably won't be stuffed to play list, right next to FFXIII-2 (apparently listening to user feedback =/= scrapping glorified rock paper scissors combat).

Tiogyr · « **Reply #9 on:** 03 Jun 2011, 05:57 »

Quote from: Tom on 02 Jun 2011, 14:57

This is on my probably won't be stuffed to play list, right next to FFXIII-2 (apparently listening to user feedback =/= scrapping glorified rock paper scissors combat).

Oh yeah, was FFXIII the one that reduced combat to basically "Spam Attack To Win"?

EDIT for relevant thread content:

Buttfranklin · « **Reply #10 on:** 03 Jun 2011, 11:32 »

Downloading the demo! I'll let you chummios know how it goes.

Ozymandias · « **Reply #11 on:** 03 Jun 2011, 12:04 »

Everyone in this thread but Steve sucks.

Buttfranklin · « **Reply #12 on:** 03 Jun 2011, 12:49 »

Well, I played the demo for the 360.

It went... Okay.

The graphics are nice, the chuckles are good, but the enemies are pretty boring and the weapons just feel clunky and ineffective. The only weapons that seemed to pack any kick were the shrink ray and the shotgun.

The humor was nice, though! At one point you have to knock down some planks to get into a mine and the Duke remark, "A crowbar would really come in handy right about now." There were other good laughs, but the Half Life fan that I am liked that one.

KvP · « **Reply #13 on:** 03 Jun 2011, 14:16 »

I remember picking up a PC Gamer in '97 that had a showcase of all the upcoming FPS games that were soon to battle it out in the marketplace. Frontrunners were SiN, Quake 2, and Daikatana. There was a 2-page spread for Duke Nukem Forever, with prelim screenshots and everything. A single page was given to Half-Life. Daikatana was deemed the most promising of the pack, given its lofty ambitions (sidekicks with their own personalities and preferences! Swordplay! Choices!)

I'm not 11 anymore, though. I'm 95% sure that Painkiller will have given me everything that this game offers, in a leaner, more fun package. Pass.

LTK · « **Reply #14 on:** 03 Jun 2011, 16:10 »

I guess the problem with this game is that, when it got around to being released, its target audience had grown out of it.

JD · « **Reply #15 on:** 03 Jun 2011, 21:58 »

Quote from: Ozymandias on 03 Jun 2011, 12:04

Everyone in this thread but Steve sucks.

Including you?

satsugaikaze · « **Reply #16 on:** 04 Jun 2011, 06:04 »

I gotta be honest here

Looking forward more to Serious Sam 3.

KvP · « **Reply #17 on:** 05 Jun 2011, 13:01 »

I've heard a lot of toxic stuff around the demo. Has anybody played it?

SilentJ · « **Reply #18 on:** 06 Jun 2011, 00:29 »

I played it Saturday night.

Oh man, I'm excited. I love the visceral thrill of these games. I know they're not going to be the best. But god dammit they're going over the top with everything and I'm going to love it all.

LeeC · « **Reply #19 on:** 06 Jun 2011, 11:12 »

I remember playing the old games, the trailers look over the top. Some how I have a feeling that if I get this game I will be hit in the head with a rolling pin by my girlfriend haha.

I have a feeling this will be one of those all hype releases, but hey you never know.

ackblom12 · « **Reply #20 on:** 06 Jun 2011, 11:17 »

Quote from: ackblom12 on 01 Jun 2011, 13:40

Fuck you guys this is going to be great.

KvP · « **Reply #21 on:** 06 Jun 2011, 11:28 »

One pretty good explanation for the ambivalence this is causing me that someone else expressed is that the Duke Nukem of the 90's was a fun character who was an amalgamation of a number of different references from the era, particularly the golden age of slightly sleazy beefcake action (Schwarzenegger, They Live, etc). It's been so long that the Duke Nukem of Forever doesn't really reference anything but Duke Nukem, and it's kinda lame.

TheEvilDog · « **Reply #22 on:** 12 Jun 2011, 08:25 »

Its the video game version of Chinese Democracy.

I kinda want to play it, but at the same time part of me is screaming no. Loudly. Right into my ear. Via several megaphones and a surround sound system.

Buttfranklin · « **Reply #23 on:** 12 Jun 2011, 21:48 »

Quote from: KvP on 05 Jun 2011, 13:01

I've heard a lot of toxic stuff around the demo. Has anybody played it?

I feel like my last post was just an echo in an empty chamber...

But to recap: the controls are clunky, the enemies are uninspired, the weapons are boring and feel weak, and overall it's just boring.

est · « **Reply #24 on:** 13 Jun 2011, 21:42 »

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/reviews/2011/06/duke-nukem-forever-review-barely-playable-unfunny-and-rampantly-offensive.ars

est · « **Reply #25 on:** 13 Jun 2011, 21:43 »

Kuchera fights the good fight.

KvP · « **Reply #26 on:** 13 Jun 2011, 22:28 »

DNF Duke Nukem is practically a marty stu character tailored specifically to Jim Sterling and even he hates this game.

KvP · « **Reply #27 on:** 13 Jun 2011, 22:44 »

Hey wanna see some NSFW concept art?

Also here's a video of the thing that creeps the shit out of even hardcore dickheads like Jim Sterling. It is pretty fucked and you will regret watching it, almost as much as people will regret buying this game.

Man I remember when I thought Gearbox was cool

JD · « **Reply #28 on:** 14 Jun 2011, 00:35 »

I think Gearbox just glued together what 3D Realms had and polished it a little.

Alex C · « **Reply #29 on:** 14 Jun 2011, 00:43 »

I guess it's a good thing it's been nearly 15 years or else this whole boring maps and regenerating health bullshit would be upsetting. Still, the fact that the game is that tone deaf is pretty depressing. Even a dopey ass franchise like Duke deserves better than that.

maxusy3k · « **Reply #30 on:** 14 Jun 2011, 11:29 »

I wonder how quickly and how far Gearbox will work to distance themselves from this now.

LeeC · « **Reply #31 on:** 14 Jun 2011, 12:41 »

somehow I knew this would happen but damn.

Blue Kitty · « **Reply #32 on:** 14 Jun 2011, 12:43 »

Yeah, called it

LeeC · « **Reply #33 on:** 14 Jun 2011, 12:59 »

I kind of felt like this game development was the arc of the covenant. Was a great thing but later lost by its creators. Once it is found and opened by others it kills the franchise and no one would dare open it again.

est · « **Reply #34 on:** 14 Jun 2011, 16:44 »

Another review, pretty much the same as the last:

http://www.giantbomb.com/duke-nukem-forever/61-20721/reviews/

KvP · « **Reply #35 on:** 14 Jun 2011, 17:26 »

A little bit disorienting that Jim Sterling blasts the game's misogyny and Gerstmann just about handwaves it.

Johnny C · « **Reply #36 on:** 14 Jun 2011, 21:33 »

weird. he says it's creepy, offensive, and sociopathic, but you're right about it seeming like handwaving. i got the feeling he was trying to say that it was so patently awful that it's obvious to anyone who plays it and thus seems barely even worthwhile to even point out? not that that's really an excuse.

Caleb · « **Reply #37 on:** 15 Jun 2011, 07:40 »

It really seems like it could have been really easy to make this game.

Just like include the magic weapon backpack that lets you carry 10 different weapons and not have any regenerating health.

Or even just have an option not to have regen health.

Shit man.

Tiogyr · « **Reply #38 on:** 15 Jun 2011, 08:12 »

Does anyone have that "Manly Men Doing Manly Things" comic where Captain Badass is having to talk Duke off a ledge, with Duke crying about how "nobody understands" him?

JD · « **Reply #39 on:** 15 Jun 2011, 08:16 »

Alex C · « **Reply #40 on:** 15 Jun 2011, 08:58 »

Yeah, that comic definitely occurred to me as I kept reading reviews commenting on how Duke seems like a pathetic sociopath now more ever.

Blue Kitty · « **Reply #41 on:** 15 Jun 2011, 09:08 »

For a comic called Manly Men Doing Manly Things, it really tugs at the heart strings

Caleb · « **Reply #42 on:** 15 Jun 2011, 09:55 »

I don't get why they tried so hard to have little jokes in cut scenes and stuff.

I was watching a lets play of this game and it just doesn't seem like a Duke game at all.

It's like all the stupid humor and crap in the original game was something you could stop and look at if you wanted or you could simply just run through the levels killing aliens and exploding stuff.

The way that this game like STOPS all the action just to make lame jokes is stupid as hell.

And the level design from the stuff I saw was insanely linear. Like it was fun in the original duke to almost get lost in the branching ways you could get through a level.

Now there is no reason to.

Physics puzzles??? Really?

JD · « **Reply #43 on:** 15 Jun 2011, 10:04 »

Where is Ackbloom? we need some sort of dissenting opinion in here

Tiogyr · « **Reply #44 on:** 15 Jun 2011, 11:16 »

Quote from: Blue Kitty on 15 Jun 2011, 09:08

For a comic called Manly Men Doing Manly Things, it really tugs at the heart strings

This would have been a much better game, for sure.

snalin · « **Reply #45 on:** 15 Jun 2011, 13:22 »

I tried the original dn3d the other day (too young to have played it the first time around), and it was pretty damn cool. Not a great game, really - I got lost something bad and I don't really have the patience for looking for more than 5 minutes for the way out before I look up a walkthrough, and there were some places where you were taking heavy damage without feeling that you would've done better if you were more skilled, but still a good game. Looking at TotalBiscuit's first impression video, this doesn't look great at all. For someone like me who didn't play the originals a lot, the jokes wouldn't make any sense, and there's a lot of... standing around. Which isn't great in any game.

It feels like they've tried to make the game in the style that was the shit just before cover based combat became what everybody started doing (like, uh, I guess Doom 3), but felt the need to build it around a gimmick character. I hope the new Serious same games don't suffer the same problem.

LeeC · « **Reply #46 on:** 15 Jun 2011, 15:27 »

wow the meta score on steam gives it a 59/100. that has to be one the lowest scored games ive seen on steam. Especially that it was just launched with so much hype.

so question for those who have played it.

Is it bad like watching a bad movie when your bored and it entertains you?

or

is it bad like it should be burned and never allowed to see the light of day?

Alex C · « **Reply #47 on:** 15 Jun 2011, 16:02 »

Pretty obviously the latter. The forced to stand around thing is really, really awful and seems to highlight the worst excesses of the original game. The humor in Duke 3d was never particularly funny and was never very tasteful-- at best, Duke was just quoting Army of Darkness ad nauseum and at worst the infestation thing was pretty disgusting even if was presented as largely a flimsy excuse to riff off of Aliens. The impregnation thing never needed to be elaborated upon or made more explicit and just parking the player in front of it feels rather like a crazy person pulling you aside so they can show you the turd they just finished bronzing.

satsugaikaze · « **Reply #48 on:** 15 Jun 2011, 19:04 »

<- Waiting for the parody series to deliver a better gameplay experience lol

J · « **Reply #49 on:** 16 Jun 2011, 01:09 »

duke nukem is a parody series

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