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Author Topic: LITURGY is fixing heavy metal, and there's nothing you can do to stop them  (Read 52584 times)

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As Martin Scorcese said when asked to describe the point of Taxi Driver; "If I could articulate it, I wouldn't have made the picture."

In a similar vein, Beethoven was asked what his Third Symphony "meant". His reply was to go over to the piano and start playing it.
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... that movement was canonized by a well-positioned mass of critics, collectors and curators.

Not to mention the CIA! And yet I can't really bring myself to hate them, despite the spooks propping them up.

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It would be interesting to see how HHH would react if someone would play a Deathspell Omega song to him.
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His Deathspell Omega phase was years ago
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Well, then it doesn't really compute for me that his stuff sounds the way Black Metal did ten years before "Si Monumentum..." dropped.
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Oh dear, TMT really likes this record.
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Well yeah, but they also showed their hand re: their knowledge of and attitudes towards metal in the first paragraph. Namely that they don't know dick and don't really care to try. Oh and that metal is all "thuggish brutality, reactionary conservatism, and senseless misanthropy?" and that's "self-evident". Maybe not to anyone who actually listens to metal.

So of course they fucking love the Liturgy album.
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The Swans comparisons irk me, because Hunter Hunt-Hendrix is the kind of person I like to think Michael Gira would loathe.

But then, he recorded a guitar part for the bonus disc of the latest Swans album, soooo

Also, Pitchfork rated Aesthetica about as well as they have ever rated a metal album.  Neither review mentions how ridiculous and annoying the song 'Glass Earth' is
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Yeah Michael Gira, for all his other upsides, seems to have really dogshit taste in bands and musicians he chooses to support (Akron/Family blowwwssssss wooo)
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Flux Information Sciences is rad though
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But then, he recorded a guitar part for the bonus disc of the latest Swans album, soooo
Wait really

If I'm not scared to death of him I'm going to have Words with Gira next time he comes through (I will be scared to death)
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Seeing that review on TMT was pretty disappointing, they were one of the few "indie" review sites I still gave a damn about.
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Everybody makes mistakes! They ain't no Cokemachineglow, that's for damned sure.
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Eurgh, so pretentious.
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The album is decent, except for the pretentious bits. If you cut those out (The a capella, the stupid keyboard loop) you would have a pretty good album, minus 5-10 minutes.
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I kind of feel like this is what Steve Albini would do if he was commissioned to do a BM record??
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Full disclosure: Iíve known the guitarist Hunter since we were both in the same English Lit grad program at Colombia
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Wait, are we talking about people that record at his studio, or that hire him as a producer? I would think that a producer would have a heavier influence on the sound than that.
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Welp seeing as Albini has made a whole career out of pointedly not being a "producer" in any capacity I'm guessing it's the other thing
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Not saying you are wrong, but I've seen repeated references to the last two Weedeater albums being produced by Albini. Not sure why they would do that if they just recorded at his studio.
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Retailers and reviewers will call Albini a producer but he abhors the title and will refuse credit. I don't think he even allows it to be put in liner notes.
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well except insofar as he is really great at mic placement and making things sound like they were recorded in a room as opposed to a computer cave, plus his drums always sound really great
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I love yr av club avatar, kveep.
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Late 80's / Early 90's-ish Gen P. Orridge w/ kabuki hitler makeup = all-time favorite
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at the risk of sounding incredibly stupid, I thought that was Tom Waits.
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talking about a different av on a different site
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Ok, I've listened to a few of Liturgy's tracks now so I feel I can contribute to this, as a man currently handling the vocals of a black metal band (ok, prog. black metal but whatevs). Fuck this band. They are competent musicians but their songcraft is boring as hell. The vocals are almost comical, sure they're pretty good screeches but I don't feel any kind of emotion behind them and I've always thought black metal was supposed to be emotive as fuck. The whole thing just sounds...impotent. All I hear (and granted this is coloured by reading this thread and the dude's writing before hearing any of their music) is boring music played by boring people, completely without feeling or emotional investment in what they're doing.

Fuck. This. Band.
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Some dude sent HHH an open letter. It's pretty funny.
I really really need a copy of Transcendental Black Metal
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Really the best thing is that he goes on and never mentions Chris Grigg by name, which is super twatty! Dude should run for office.
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All I know is that I am not the arch-enemy of the black metal community, and that the internet is a crazy thing.

I think he probably should have stopped himself here
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God, what an arrogant little twat. One of my friends keeps defending these guys (mainly because the drummer is a real stand-up guy) but goddamnit... This guy really needs to chill the hell out.

That said, Chris Grigg is awesome. The last Woe album kicks ass.
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