Topic: LITURGY is fixing heavy metal, and there's nothing you can do to stop them (Read 65055 times)

nufan · « **Reply #100 on:** 18 Apr 2011, 13:28 »

Quote from: JimmyJazz on 17 Apr 2011, 22:28

As Martin Scorcese said when asked to describe the point of Taxi Driver; "If I could articulate it, I wouldn't have made the picture."

In a similar vein, Beethoven was asked what his Third Symphony "meant". His reply was to go over to the piano and start playing it.

De_El · « **Reply #101 on:** 18 Apr 2011, 18:55 »

Quote from: Cernunnos on 18 Apr 2011, 13:23

... that movement was canonized by a well-positioned mass of critics, collectors and curators.

Not to mention the CIA! And yet I can't really bring myself to hate them, despite the spooks propping them up.

Lummer · « **Reply #102 on:** 19 Apr 2011, 00:39 »

It would be interesting to see how HHH would react if someone would play a Deathspell Omega song to him.

KvP · « **Reply #103 on:** 19 Apr 2011, 00:58 »

His Deathspell Omega phase was years ago

Lummer · « **Reply #104 on:** 19 Apr 2011, 04:50 »

Well, then it doesn't really compute for me that his stuff sounds the way Black Metal did ten years before "Si Monumentum..." dropped.

Tom · « **Reply #105 on:** 13 May 2011, 02:58 »

Oh dear, TMT really likes this record.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #106 on:** 13 May 2011, 09:22 »

Well yeah, but they also showed their hand re: their knowledge of and attitudes towards metal in the first paragraph. Namely that they don't know dick and don't really care to try. Oh and that metal is all "thuggish brutality, reactionary conservatism, and senseless misanthropy?" and that's "self-evident". Maybe not to anyone who actually listens to metal.

So of course they fucking love the Liturgy album.

SWOON! at My Gravitas · « **Reply #107 on:** 13 May 2011, 09:47 »

The Swans comparisons irk me, because Hunter Hunt-Hendrix is the kind of person I like to think Michael Gira would loathe.

But then, he recorded a guitar part for the bonus disc of the latest Swans album, soooo

Also, Pitchfork rated Aesthetica about as well as they have ever rated a metal album. Neither review mentions how ridiculous and annoying the song 'Glass Earth' is

David_Dovey · « **Reply #108 on:** 13 May 2011, 10:02 »

Yeah Michael Gira, for all his other upsides, seems to have really dogshit taste in bands and musicians he chooses to support (Akron/Family blowwwssssss wooo)

JD · « **Reply #109 on:** 13 May 2011, 19:23 »

Flux Information Sciences is rad though

KvP · « **Reply #110 on:** 13 May 2011, 21:04 »

Quote from: SWOON! at My Gravitas on 13 May 2011, 09:47

But then, he recorded a guitar part for the bonus disc of the latest Swans album, soooo

Wait really

If I'm not scared to death of him I'm going to have Words with Gira next time he comes through (I will be scared to death)

Tom · « **Reply #111 on:** 13 May 2011, 21:29 »

Seeing that review on TMT was pretty disappointing, they were one of the few "indie" review sites I still gave a damn about.

KvP · « **Reply #112 on:** 13 May 2011, 21:33 »

Everybody makes mistakes! They ain't no Cokemachineglow, that's for damned sure.

Tom · « **Reply #113 on:** 13 May 2011, 21:45 »

Eurgh, so pretentious.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #114 on:** 15 May 2011, 17:08 »

The album is decent, except for the pretentious bits. If you cut those out (The a capella, the stupid keyboard loop) you would have a pretty good album, minus 5-10 minutes.

KvP · « **Reply #115 on:** 16 May 2011, 00:15 »

Quote from: Metalsucks

I kind of feel like this is what Steve Albini would do if he was commissioned to do a BM record??
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Full disclosure: I’ve known the guitarist Hunter since we were both in the same English Lit grad program at Colombia

Nodaisho · « **Reply #116 on:** 16 May 2011, 13:00 »

Wait, are we talking about people that record at his studio, or that hire him as a producer? I would think that a producer would have a heavier influence on the sound than that.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #117 on:** 16 May 2011, 13:22 »

Welp seeing as Albini has made a whole career out of pointedly not being a "producer" in any capacity I'm guessing it's the other thing

Nodaisho · « **Reply #118 on:** 16 May 2011, 17:36 »

Not saying you are wrong, but I've seen repeated references to the last two Weedeater albums being produced by Albini. Not sure why they would do that if they just recorded at his studio.

KvP · « **Reply #119 on:** 16 May 2011, 17:56 »

Retailers and reviewers will call Albini a producer but he abhors the title and will refuse credit. I don't think he even allows it to be put in liner notes.

Johnny C · « **Reply #120 on:** 16 May 2011, 21:09 »

well except insofar as he is really great at mic placement and making things sound like they were recorded in a room as opposed to a computer cave, plus his drums always sound really great

Tom · « **Reply #121 on:** 17 May 2011, 03:09 »

I love yr av club avatar, kveep.

KvP · « **Reply #122 on:** 17 May 2011, 09:34 »

Late 80's / Early 90's-ish Gen P. Orridge w/ kabuki hitler makeup = all-time favorite

Zingoleb · « **Reply #123 on:** 18 May 2011, 14:53 »

at the risk of sounding incredibly stupid, I thought that was Tom Waits.

Tom · « **Reply #124 on:** 18 May 2011, 16:44 »

talking about a different av on a different site

Zingoleb · « **Reply #125 on:** 19 May 2011, 19:12 »

Jimmy the Squid · « **Reply #126 on:** 11 Jun 2011, 05:54 »

Ok, I've listened to a few of Liturgy's tracks now so I feel I can contribute to this, as a man currently handling the vocals of a black metal band (ok, prog. black metal but whatevs). Fuck this band. They are competent musicians but their songcraft is boring as hell. The vocals are almost comical, sure they're pretty good screeches but I don't feel any kind of emotion behind them and I've always thought black metal was supposed to be emotive as fuck. The whole thing just sounds...impotent. All I hear (and granted this is coloured by reading this thread and the dude's writing before hearing any of their music) is boring music played by boring people, completely without feeling or emotional investment in what they're doing.

Fuck. This. Band.

KvP · « **Reply #127 on:** 14 Jun 2011, 16:22 »

Quote from: Ptommydski on 10 Jun 2011, 09:01

Some dude sent HHH an open letter. It's pretty funny.

I really really need a copy of Transcendental Black Metal

KvP · « **Reply #128 on:** 21 Jun 2011, 08:04 »

HHH RESPONDS

KvP · « **Reply #129 on:** 21 Jun 2011, 09:24 »

Really the best thing is that he goes on and never mentions Chris Grigg by name, which is super twatty! Dude should run for office.

SWOON! at My Gravitas · « **Reply #130 on:** 21 Jun 2011, 10:29 »

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All I know is that I am not the arch-enemy of the black metal community, and that the internet is a crazy thing.

I think he probably should have stopped himself here

Lummer · « **Reply #131 on:** 22 Jun 2011, 02:20 »

God, what an arrogant little twat. One of my friends keeps defending these guys (mainly because the drummer is a real stand-up guy) but goddamnit... This guy really needs to chill the hell out.

That said, Chris Grigg is awesome. The last Woe album kicks ass.

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