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What was THE MOMENT OF THE WEEK?

Yelling Bird and Shelby plug QCV2!
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"I ran into the door until it broke!"
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Hello, Nice People!
- 1 (1.9%)
Sam goes to PVPA
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You're a ROBOT?
- 0 (0%)
Are you super strong? Can you shoot lasers? DO YOU HAVE ROCKET BOOTS?!
- 4 (7.4%)
An electronic self-defense capability...
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...that can blow the socks off a man at 100 meters! (Let's try it out!)
- 2 (3.7%)
That girl is a bad influence
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You really do sound like her dad.
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Can we go looking for snakes tomorrow?
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Hiking up Mount Tom, wanna come along?
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Elliot: "We? You mean you and Sam and... him?"
- 6 (11.1%)
Awkward Marten activated! "I get leg cramps"
- 2 (3.7%)
We'll make sure to do plenty of stretching.
- 0 (0%)
Momo got Marten a date!
- 3 (5.6%)
Elliot looked like he was gonna kill me!
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Nothing's ever simple for you romantically, is it?  "Like a Rush song: complicated and wanky."
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A JOB and a NEW FRIEND going HIKING!
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You've got a whole new life.
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You are my best friend! Promise!
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So do you want to... "Not now, I'm busy."
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Author Topic: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)  (Read 61815 times)

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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #50 on: 13 Sep 2011, 03:39 »

That... could be an understatement. ...right, Akima?
If that is a reference to the supposed Chinese curse "May you live in interesting times", you should be aware that its authenticity is highly dubious, and no Chinese-language source for it has ever been discovered.  :angel:
Reminds me of this.
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #51 on: 13 Sep 2011, 04:10 »

Was away in London for a week so I'm just properly catching up on the comics now.

It's been a good week. Really like #2006 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2006), makes me realize I'm missing Faye banter in general. Also Shelby! D'aww!
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I wonder what time of the year it is for a school-child hanging out at tSB at lunch time? Or it's a weekend. Does Marten work on the weekend?

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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #52 on: 13 Sep 2011, 04:15 »

That... could be an understatement. ...right, Akima?
If that is a reference to the supposed Chinese curse "May you live in interesting times", you should be aware that its authenticity is highly dubious, and no Chinese-language source for it has ever been discovered.  :angel:
Reminds me of this.
and I really can't stop thinking of this: :psyduck:
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #53 on: 13 Sep 2011, 04:29 »

That's a good thing to be thinking about.
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #54 on: 13 Sep 2011, 04:30 »

That's a good thing to be thinking about.
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #55 on: 13 Sep 2011, 04:46 »

If Marigold's mother and Marten is father, what does that say about Marigold and Marten?

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...meh?  I can't even see a good reason that's outside the realm of possibility, really...
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #56 on: 13 Sep 2011, 04:53 »

Something I'm curious about.  Is it really Marten's place to tell people that Momo's a robot?  I'm sure Momo wouldn't be ashamed of it, nor should she be, but shouldn't that be her call?
  Given the expected size of a human 3 year old, the implication that she was a robot was obvious.
A robot or a smartass, I s'pose. 
Or a leap year baby...
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #57 on: 13 Sep 2011, 05:34 »

kent, I believe the convention for leap year babies is to maintain the correct age (i.e. actual name of years they have aged) but state that that person has only had y birthdays.
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #58 on: 13 Sep 2011, 05:59 »

That... could be an understatement. ...right, Akima?
If that is a reference to the supposed Chinese curse "May you live in interesting times", you should be aware that its authenticity is highly dubious, and no Chinese-language source for it has ever been discovered.  :angel:
There are people who think it's an actual "ancient Chinese curse"?  :psyduck:  I thought Terry Pratchett came up with it, but wikipedia says it was first atested in "American Society of International Law Proceedings vol. 33 (1939)." . With hints that it was used as early as 1936.

EDIT: Wait, I couldn't have thought that, because what would the title "Interesting times" be a reference to, then.
I thought it was an eighties B movie thing. Certainly has the general feel of how Ancient Chinese Wisdom is treated in cheesy films from before my time. It would seem right at home in a setting where Chinese stores are expected to sell things like Mogwais and Monkey Paws.
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #59 on: 13 Sep 2011, 06:05 »

Jeph could simply be using this opportunity to play around with everyone's relationship dynamic in regards to Momo. While Marigold and Momo seem to be expressing something in the way of sisters, Maten and Momo seem to be expressing something "fatherly" ( I think it's more like a much older brother). Faye doesn't seem to have changed, however her "screen time" with Momo was small.
Of course all of these are just guesses. It's really about Momo now moving about in the world vs. safely tucked away at home.
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #60 on: 13 Sep 2011, 06:19 »

Sooooooo...

Exactly how similar are Martin and Jim?
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #61 on: 13 Sep 2011, 06:29 »

I think we will soon see a storyline addressing antiAnthroPC prejudice. It will not be handled in a conventionally predictable manner. We've seen Dora didn't care for Uncanny Valley chassis (when Winslow took RoboBoyfriend for a spin). Max drama potential, though, would require the prejudiced character to be Jim.
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #62 on: 13 Sep 2011, 06:43 »

What are 'they' called in the QCverse, anyway?  Robots?  AI's?  Androids?   

And that's *two* characters who have mentioned some crazy crazy modifications available -- both Clinton, a scientist grad student with a cybernetic attachment, and a thirteen-year-old girl.  So maybe the 6PPG / 2med.laser chassis isn't so imaginary. 

It'll be interesting to see how Samantha would react if&when this happens.
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #63 on: 13 Sep 2011, 08:02 »

I think we will soon see a storyline addressing antiAnthroPC prejudice. It will not be handled in a conventionally predictable manner. We've seen Dora didn't care for Uncanny Valley chassis (when Winslow took RoboBoyfriend for a spin). Max drama potential, though, would require the prejudiced character to be Jim.

I'd like to see a storyline where a robot is modded by its owner into doing what he/she tells it to do.  Would the other characters view this person as Hannibal Lecter?
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #64 on: 13 Sep 2011, 08:12 »

Not unless he eats someone's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #65 on: 13 Sep 2011, 08:27 »

since AI have no owners, I'd assume you're referring to a robot in the sense that we have them here, in which case I wouldn't see a problem with it. If you're referring to an AI, I would imagine it would take someone of the caliber of Hannelore's father (possibly not even him) to root through an AI's self-preservation defenses, and I would guess that most people who have that kind of intimate knowledge of the robot brain would respect it enough not to do that.

But if that would happen I would say that the QC society as well as the QC Forum society would indeed treat that character as a monster.
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #66 on: 13 Sep 2011, 09:29 »

Am I the only one hoping that Momo's self defense system is just a huge static electricity generator? Blows the socks off a man but doesn't really do much unless they're at really close range?

Maybe I'm just weird.  :psyduck:

Momo's resume in 1995 claims up to 250 mA for her self-defense system, which is far into the danger range.
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #67 on: 13 Sep 2011, 09:31 »

Hmm.  I wonder how AIs in QCverse would see a debugger.   :psyduck:
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #68 on: 13 Sep 2011, 10:39 »

I just realized: Samantha's t-shirt has a Pikachu/snake hybrid on the front.

That is amazing.
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #69 on: 13 Sep 2011, 10:49 »

Momo's resume in 1995 claims up to 250 mA for her self-defense system, which is far into the danger range.
That was her old chassis though. Her new one could be even higher.

Or, alternatively, she could have not read her manual and not realised this model doesn't come with an electroshock capability at all :)
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #70 on: 13 Sep 2011, 11:02 »

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Momo's resume in 1995 claims up to 250 mA for her self-defense system, which is far into the danger range.

Only if the voltage is enough to overcome the natural resistance us humans have.  Also Somebody made the point that this is her new chassis.
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #71 on: 13 Sep 2011, 11:14 »

Hmm.  I wonder how AIs in QCverse would see a debugger.   :psyduck:

Probably as an anti-depressant, rooting out problematic code, leaving them with a peaceful, "all's right with the world" feeling...


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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #72 on: 13 Sep 2011, 11:19 »

I just realized how much do we really know about Marten.
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...and that's just off the top of my head.
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #73 on: 13 Sep 2011, 11:26 »

I've forgotten how to make text hyperlinks.

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I wonder what time of the year it is for a school-child hanging out at tSB at lunch time? Or it's a weekend. Does Marten work on the weekend?
It depends on two things: how close the school is to tSB, and whether or not PVPA is a Year-Round school.

The backpack suggests she stopped in during a lunch break at school, however.
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #74 on: 13 Sep 2011, 11:27 »

Sooooooo...

Exactly how similar are Martin and Jim?

They have similar tastes in women?
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #76 on: 13 Sep 2011, 11:37 »

That was her old chassis though. Her new one could be even higher.

Or, alternatively, she could have not read her manual and not realised this model doesn't come with an electroshock capability at all :)

Which, of course, would be hilarious.
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #77 on: 13 Sep 2011, 11:40 »

Why do I get the feeling Momo will do something like this?
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #78 on: 13 Sep 2011, 11:41 »

Hmm.  I wonder how AIs in QCverse would see a debugger.   :psyduck:

Probably as an anti-depressant, rooting out problematic code, leaving them with a peaceful, "all's right with the world" feeling...


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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #79 on: 13 Sep 2011, 11:45 »

Given that the source code for most APC's is Windows/DOS, this could be very troubling.

My suspicion is that the iDoru line of "realistic APC's" is based on Apple source code, while the Windoze versions look like Pintsize.
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« Reply #80 on: 13 Sep 2011, 11:46 »

More like a therapist, dragging their most personal data structures into the light.
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #81 on: 13 Sep 2011, 12:16 »

Momo's resume in 1995 claims up to 250 mA for her self-defense system, which is far into the danger range.
That was her old chassis though. Her new one could be even higher.

Or, alternatively, she could have not read her manual and not realised this model doesn't come with an electroshock capability at all :)

Exactly. I was thinking that this chassis would have different capabilities from her old one and therefore her claim might end up with a more "hilarious results" result than her old chassis would have implied. Which leads me to wonder: Do things like Momo's electric shock abilities reside in the chassis or in the AI itself somehow? Are there universal circuits that can be made to do a variety of things depending on what AI is installed? Seems like an odd way to do things but it would allow for certain traits to be character specific for the AIs instead of being dependent on their current physical configuration.
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #82 on: 13 Sep 2011, 13:23 »

Considering AI get to choose their own starting careers, I would think having electroshock capabilities built into the base programming would be highly problematic. There are any number of jobs that would be extremely dangerous having someone with that ability perform them.
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #83 on: 13 Sep 2011, 13:44 »

Computer repair, for instance, as Marigold will attest. On the other hand, suppose an AI wanted to go into Emergency Room medicine? A built-in defibrillator would be an asset, if you (the AI) have the capability to fine-tune and focus the shock. How about an AI cop (I mean besides RoboCop)? Built-in Taser. AI roadside-service mechanic? "You need a jumpstart, Ms.  Tai ... I'll have you on your way in a jiffy. Maybe see about buying a new battery, though."
How about acting? (Look up "The Darfsteller" by Walter M. Miller Jr.)
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #84 on: 13 Sep 2011, 13:53 »

You need a lot more than 250mA to turn over a starter motor!
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #85 on: 13 Sep 2011, 13:58 »

So you'd get the upgrade Momo thinks she might have gotten to her defense system.
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #86 on: 13 Sep 2011, 14:21 »

In light of Mono's upgrade, I am worried about Sven:

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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #87 on: 13 Sep 2011, 14:38 »

Congratulations!

You are the 123rd user to link to that strip.

*puts on whimsical penguin hat and hands out cake*

*takes off whimsical penguin hat and puts on serious penguin hat* The electroshock thing might be something that Momo always assumed she'd have, kind of a 'phantom limb' type of thing. I also do wonder how Momos interaction with the world will be now that she has a more humanoid chasis. While it is probably not the kind of thing normally done in QC it would be interesting as a means of study for how people interact, especially if Momo can be confused for a real person without any uncanny valley implications. I doubt that Pintsize would get a new chasis but I do kind of wonder if they'd explore any more of this with the other AnthroPCs. And now that I think about it I also wonder about AI relationships since chasis can be changed more readily, I have this weird mental image of an anthroPC and a nuclear sub in a relationship.
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #88 on: 13 Sep 2011, 14:48 »



*takes off whimsical penguin hat and puts on serious penguin hat* The electroshock thing might be something that Momo always assumed she'd have, kind of a 'phantom limb' type of thing. I also do wonder how Momos interaction with the world will be now that she has a more humanoid chasis. While it is probably not the kind of thing normally done in QC it would be interesting as a means of study for how people interact, especially if Momo can be confused for a real person without any uncanny valley implications. I doubt that Pintsize would get a new chasis but I do kind of wonder if they'd explore any more of this with the other AnthroPCs. And now that I think about it I also wonder about AI relationships since chasis can be changed more readily, I have this weird mental image of an anthroPC and a nuclear sub in a relationship.

I do wonder if something will happen that leads Mono to return back to her original chassis.
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #89 on: 13 Sep 2011, 16:21 »

Part of me wants this, I like chibi Momo.  But Jeph's thing has always been character growth, and this is a heluvan opportunity for that.  I don't think regression is in the cards. 

There, I said it.  Now, prove me wrong!   :wink:
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #90 on: 13 Sep 2011, 16:24 »

I do wonder if something will happen that leads Mono to return back to her original chassis.

Well, there is one thing that she could do that would make everyone in the cast angry.

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1658

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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #91 on: 13 Sep 2011, 16:28 »

Do I get a prize for being #125? :)

Yes, it's the same bloody comic. Don't bother clicking.

To get back to the topic... I'm not sure what would make you consider that she might go back to her old chassis. I can't think of a single reason why she would.
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #92 on: 13 Sep 2011, 16:34 »

If it were a TV series, everything would have to return to the way it was at the beginning of the episode.  After all, you don't want to spoil the continuity when you go into reruns and they're shown out of order...

That's why they never got off of Gilligan's Island...
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #93 on: 13 Sep 2011, 16:46 »

Here's a link that's totally not that comic.

And it's not TV Tropes either.









Yes it's Rick Astley! What? Linking to comic 1658 is just as original and at this point adds just as much to the discussion as a Goddamned Rickroll!
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #94 on: 13 Sep 2011, 16:56 »

(Hovers over link) Hey, it's not that comic!

(Clicks link) Damn you, sir!

(Sees fine print too late) Well played, clerk...
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #95 on: 13 Sep 2011, 17:30 »

Part of me wants this, I like chibi Momo.  But Jeph's thing has always been character growth, and this is a heluvan opportunity for that.  I don't think regression is in the cards. 

There, I said it.  Now, prove me wrong!   :wink:

Unless the character growth comes from learning the problems with the new chassis - maybe being in that form will cause issues with the other AnthroPCs and she'll choose to go back in order to be accepted back into the PC fold. Maybe Pintsize will encourage her to do bad things in her new form that annoys the human characters and she decides that her actions in the new chassis is a huge disappontment to Marigold and switch back so she is no longer tempted to follow Pintsize's plans.

Incidently, what is the inside joke to linking to the comic with Momo flirting with Sven? I was the first person to link it in the thread so I don't get the "you win a prize" response.
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #96 on: 13 Sep 2011, 17:45 »

Since the "Momo's New Chassis" storyline started, comic 1658 has been linked in the WCDT on average about 2.6 times per day.

It's like it's 2008* all over again.





*Or whenever it was that people still thought that Rickrolling was actually funny.
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #97 on: 13 Sep 2011, 18:16 »

Momo turned down the Izumi-04 in strip 1998, so it seems she wanted to get away from the schoolgirl look.
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #98 on: 13 Sep 2011, 18:39 »

Since the "Momo's New Chassis" storyline started, comic 1658 has been linked in the WCDT on average about 2.6 times per day.

It's like it's 2008* all over again.





*Or whenever it was that people still thought that Rickrolling was actually funny.

Ah right... serves me right for not reading all the previous WCDT threads to spot such things.... I must backdate my reading back several months I fear before I shall post again....
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Re: WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
« Reply #99 on: 13 Sep 2011, 18:52 »

Nah, just roll with it. 
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