Topic: Is Espresso Really 'Good' Coffee? (Read 23554 times)

Smerf · « **Reply #100 on:** 07 Jul 2011, 13:39 »

When I lived in southern California, I got the joy of drinking really good coffee from a small local chain. Now I live back near Seattle and wont drink Starbucks (or Seattle's Best, which is owned by Starbucks). Now, the coffee stand near my work that serves the best coffee is a bikini coffee stand. Double the awesomeness!

What? DON'T JUDGE ME.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #101 on:** 07 Jul 2011, 23:20 »

I know Starbucks owns it, so is it weird that I think Starbucks coffee is fine (not great, but fine) but Seattle's Best is absolute shit?

Smerf · « **Reply #102 on:** 18 Jul 2011, 14:14 »

...yes.

lepetitfromage · « **Reply #103 on:** 19 Jul 2011, 08:38 »

Quote from: Method of Madness on 07 Jul 2011, 23:20

I know Starbucks owns it, so is it weird that I think Starbucks coffee is fine (not great, but fine) but Seattle's Best is absolute shit?

nah, it's not weird, but you and Tiogyr should probably not go out for coffee any time soon.

Quote from: Tiogyr on 27 May 2011, 03:39

I like either Seattle's Best or Kona coffee for my drip coffee makers, but I'll use Maxwell House if I have to (Folgers is only for sheer desperation).

Screw Starbucks, the only way they make their coffee remotely drinkable is by putting so much sugar into it that you're essentially drinking a cup of liquid candy bar.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #104 on:** 24 Jul 2011, 18:18 »

Considering I drink their coffee black, it's safe to say the two of us disagree. Also, anyone ever been to a Starbucks with a clover machine? So fucking good.

Is it cold in here? · « **Reply #105 on:** 24 Jul 2011, 20:21 »

OK, I will show my ignorance. What is a clover machine?

Method of Madness · « **Reply #106 on:** 24 Jul 2011, 20:23 »

http://www.wired.com/gadgets/miscellaneous/magazine/16-08/mf_clover

(Not sure why it says it's $4, it's only 50 cents more than regular coffee at my Starbucks, a large is usually about $3 after tax).

Carl-E · « **Reply #107 on:** 25 Jul 2011, 09:40 »

You probably don't live in Boston, DC, NYC, LA, or Frisco (where the reviewer lived). Prices are elevated in these and other large metro areas.

And that thing is pretentious as hell. It's like a Bently - not as flashy as a Rolls, but dammit, it's still just a ~~car~~ coffeemaker. What gets me is that even though it's automated as all get out, it still needs a barista to whisk the beans and water together (seriously? You can't automate that?) and to squeegee away the grounds puck (again, WTF? that can be done by a machine...). I think it was designed so it doesn't create more unemployment!

I'll have to take one and retro fit the appropriate automated attachments for the home user.

I can see it now - hordes of former Starbuckians with signs saying, "Will barista for food"

Is it cold in here? · « **Reply #108 on:** 25 Jul 2011, 11:34 »

A coffee machine with an Ethernet port could converse with Winslow.

DSL · « **Reply #109 on:** 25 Jul 2011, 11:35 »

At my local supermarket, there is a Starbucks stand. A minor evil pleasure of mine is to walk by it to the deli counter, where there is a coffee vending machine that will take my 50 cents and allow me to push buttons for coffee as strong and sweet as I like it, with flavorings if I like. Fun, even on nights when I don't want coffee.

Carl-E · « **Reply #110 on:** 25 Jul 2011, 12:08 »

I ... I ....

I think I love you.

damn.

mike837go · « **Reply #111 on:** 27 Jul 2011, 05:41 »

Down boy!

You're already married.

Carl-E · « **Reply #112 on:** 27 Jul 2011, 06:13 »

I'll try and keep it platonic.

DSL · « **Reply #113 on:** 27 Jul 2011, 08:49 »

We can be friends.

jwhouk · « **Reply #114 on:** 04 Aug 2011, 13:40 »

I have discovered a wonderful little coffee shop here in the Great North Woods. Eclectic style and pretty darn good coffee - and cheaper than *$.

Carl-E · « **Reply #115 on:** 04 Aug 2011, 18:45 »

Ooh, what's it called? Next trip to Mayo we'll stop by and trash the place...

Method of Madness · « **Reply #116 on:** 04 Aug 2011, 18:53 »

Are there any good places to go in New Jersey for coffee?

(Before someone mentions it, yeah, I just used "good" and "New Jersey" in the same sentence. I'm as surprised as you.)

Carl-E · « **Reply #117 on:** 04 Aug 2011, 18:56 »

You mean besides Dunkin Donuts?

Method of Madness · « **Reply #118 on:** 04 Aug 2011, 18:57 »

I used to like Dunkin Donuts. Then they started making their Dark Roast, which was easily the best coffee I'd ever had from them. And then they stopped making it, so fuck Dunkin Donuts.

jwhouk · « **Reply #119 on:** 05 Aug 2011, 06:32 »

Quote from: Carl-E on 04 Aug 2011, 18:45

Ooh, what's it called? Next trip to Mayo we'll stop by and trash the place...

No, I am NOT letting you come and destroy the only indie train-station-themed coffee shop in Merrill!

...oops.

Carl-E · « **Reply #120 on:** 05 Aug 2011, 06:42 »

'sallright. It'll be awhile before we can fund that trip anyway!

cat_rant · « **Reply #121 on:** 06 Aug 2011, 09:17 »

Starbucks chains in Ireland are so fricking expensive! I can get a nicer coffee elsewhere for like half the price. Were I work is like coffee shop central and I want to support the little coffee place across the way. The staff are lovely and stuff, but their blend is just too bitter. Even in a caramel latte its so sharp it is just not enjoyable. I settle for the coffee shop next door mainly because the staff know my bevvie of choise now when they see me and I can nip in and out inside the 5 minutes I manage to get to myself during the working day.

Coffee_Kaioken · « **Reply #122 on:** 06 Aug 2011, 10:25 »

A key thing is to keep your coffeemaker clean - a lot of people don't even rinse the carafe or basket before brewing more coffee the next day, they just throw out grinds, put new ones in, fill the reserve with water and that's it. Because I don't make coffee much these days, that mistake happened to me (well, it took 3 weeks).

I find that personally it just causes me to sleep more the next morning if I don't force myself awake to get my "fix" (such as lazy Saturday mornings), and I also found that it just aggravated my anxiety conditions more than I needed them to be; if I have coffee and then experience something that would just normally annoy me, I get super pissed off; if I experience something that would normally just make me nervous, I freak out/panic, and so on/so forth. Granted, if I'm going be having a fun time later, it makes that more exciting too - when me and my friends were going to see the Scott Pilgrim movie, I intentionally drank more coffee beforehand to get more hyped up about it.

Quote from: Occams Meataxe on 27 May 2011, 04:46

If you're drinking coffee for the caffeine remember that espresso has less than lighter roasts. All the caffeine you're going to get is in the raw bean. The longer you roast it, the more is destroyed.

I'm partial to "white coffee", roasted to the yellow stage. Once you've had it you'll realize that every cup you've had is burnt and bitter. It has a nutty flavor, a lot like barley tea.

That concept makes me think of Coffee Fool, which, while ridden with obvious sales tactics, has also received some credit amongst customers. Nonetheless, it did make me curious as to what kinds of coffees were out there that didn't require cream or sugar; even from my local coffee house, I still add half-and-half and a little bit of Sugar in the Raw. I don't need my coffee to taste "sweet", the point of the sugar is just to nullify any bitterness or bad taste.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #123 on:** 06 Aug 2011, 23:52 »

Pleasantness or unpleasantness of doing so aside, would eating the amount of coffee beans that'd go in one cup of coffee give you the same benefits as drinking that cup of coffee?

akronnick · « **Reply #124 on:** 07 Aug 2011, 00:35 »

It would probably multiply the effects of the coffee in question to "don't try this at home" magnitudes.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #125 on:** 07 Aug 2011, 01:17 »

Well I have tried it. I mean, not to that extent, but I've eaten a few here and there. They're tasty in an odd, bitter way. I wonder if it would be easier to grab a handful to munch on in the morning rather than making coffee.

Carl-E · « **Reply #126 on:** 07 Aug 2011, 01:30 »

I think one of the advantages of coffee as a morning beverage (rather than a crunchy snack food) is that you can easily add cream and sugar.

Of course, there are always those chocolate-covered coffee beans... yum...

Method of Madness · « **Reply #127 on:** 07 Aug 2011, 07:37 »

You can, but I prefer it black, so that's moot. Also, I don't really like hot coffee, and iced coffee is tricky to make without diluting it too much (you have to make it stronger first, then add ice), so I'm not seeing any negatives to switching to coffee beans. I won't need to do this until I start student teaching, but that's only a few weeks away.

lepetitfromage · « **Reply #128 on:** 08 Aug 2011, 07:18 »

Quote from: Carl-E on 07 Aug 2011, 01:30

Of course, there are always those chocolate-covered coffee beans... yum...

those are little morsels of heaven on earth.

it's a good thing I haven't found anywhere that sells them for cheap or I'd be in a constant state of caffeine induced delirium.

mike837go · « **Reply #129 on:** 24 Aug 2011, 08:10 »

Quote from: Method of Madness on 06 Aug 2011, 23:52

Pleasantness or unpleasantness of doing so aside, would eating the amount of coffee beans that'd go in one cup of coffee give you the same benefits as drinking that cup of coffee?

At the coffee shop I used to work at we had chocolate-covered espresso beans.

2 of 'em gave a better buzz than a 20 oz coffee!

EnriqueAcosta · « **Reply #130 on:** 16 Oct 2011, 11:21 »

Then you sir have never had coffee from a Slayer machine drawn by a barista master. OH goodness so smooth and velvety and delicious. Of course as a coffee geek I too have my favorite method (light roast cold crewed overnight then strained through a cotton filter with a little milk a sugar) but this was just heavenly.

Akima · « **Reply #131 on:** 16 Oct 2011, 21:15 »

Quote from: Carl-E on 07 Aug 2011, 01:30

I think one of the advantages of coffee as a morning beverage (rather than a crunchy snack food) is that you can easily add cream and sugar.

It is certainly better than putting milk and sugar in tea. *shudder* Such barbarism!

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