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some of us have BETTER THINGS TO DO than just play VIDEO GAMES all the...

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WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO ME

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Butts.  

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The fact that it's plural really worries me.

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FWEEEE

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...that is a LOT of victorian pornography...

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No thanks.  I've been to the city.  It's loud and smelly.

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DJ Squeekz

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I...I love you too!

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Gimme a coping mechanism on the rocks.

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PIP PIP CHEERIO AND BUGGER ME BOLLOCKS

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Total Members Voted: 62

[WAYF]

Psyducks on parade!

Does that mean I need the SecretPotion to get any further? 

That is the BEST Pokémon reference I have EVER SEEN.

[SomeCanadianWeirdo]

My prediction for Friday

Knight Sabres

Momo as Nene?  Raven as Lina?  Faye as Priss?  Dora as Sylia?  Pintsize as Mackie is obvious.  Steve is probably a better choice for Leon than Marten. 

[cesariojpn]

My prediction for Friday

Knight Sabres

Which one?

[jwhouk]

At the rate we're going, Angus will be back sometime after the first of the year (our time).

[akronnick]

Marten, I am disappoint.

You're not even gonna ask why your best friend is shit-faced before 8pm?

[Tova]

That question would be much more productively asked when she is sober, no?

[jwhouk]

Do you get the feeling this hasn't been the first time Faye's done this - and not just based on what we've seen "on camera" (so to speak)?

This... will not end well.

[seaflower]

Marten you're an ass!

You have a friend who struggles with alcoholism and undergoes thearpy for it who suddenly comes home drunk one day and the best you can do is tell her not to throw up?
What kind of friend puts dancing with a scatter brain girl who is moving away and not planning to come back anytime soon over being supportive of their best friend?
Faye was there for you through your break up with Dora...

You deserve to be single!

[jwhouk]

Uh oh.

All hands, brace for impact!

(20 pages by Saturday, locked before Sunday?)

[akronnick]

At the rate we're going, Angus will be back sometime after the first of the year (our time).

I don't think it'll take that long, probably only about a month or so...




Aww, HELL no!!!

Jeph Jacques, so help me if you make Angus and Faye break-up right before Thanksgiving like you did with Marten and Dora I swear to God I'll...

I'll...

I'll...





...bitch about it on the forum but keep reading anyway.

[Fen]

Marten you're an ass!

You have a friend who struggles with alcoholism and undergoes thearpy for it who suddenly comes home drunk one day and the best you can do is tell her not to throw up?
What kind of friend puts dancing with a scatter brain girl who is moving away and not planning to come back anytime soon over being supportive of their best friend?
Faye was there for you through your break up with Dora...

You deserve to be single!

Faye isn't really coherent enough to explain what's wrong. It's best to wait until she sobers up for a talk. She's also too shitfaced to go out again and(unless they have alcohol in the house already, which I doubt) isn't going to be drinking again in the immediate future. She will just go to sleep(as drunk people usually do) and they can talk when she is better at talking.

[iduguphergrave]

Marten you're an ass!

You have a friend who struggles with alcoholism and undergoes thearpy for it who suddenly comes home drunk one day and the best you can do is tell her not to throw up?
What kind of friend puts dancing with a scatter brain girl who is moving away and not planning to come back anytime soon over being supportive of their best friend?
Faye was there for you through your break up with Dora...

You deserve to be single!

Lets get something straight: Faye was NOT an alcoholic. She had a problem, yes, but that's not (always) the same. She stopped it before it turned into alcoholism, and she didn't start seeing Dr. Corrine because of her drinking; it's just one of the things that Faye's talked about with her.

Marten's not being insensitive, Faye's not letting on something's wrong. She's very drunk, yes, but she's being a happy drunk; right now she's just coming off like she started celebrating early.

[akronnick]

To be fair to Marten, Faye is pretty good at hiding when something is really bothering her.

She's the queen of putting on a brave face.


In this case, however, it's a brave shit-face.

[Tova]

Oy vey, here comes the Marten hate.

She's just acting like a happy drunk. He's not omniscient.

[Kugai]

My prediction for Friday

Knight Sabres

Momo as Nene?  Raven as Lina?  Faye as Priss?  Dora as Sylia?  Pintsize as Mackie is obvious.  Steve is probably a better choice for Leon than Marten. 

Hmmmm, sounds about right

But would Steve be a better Leon or Mason?

And who would be Galatia??



I think Faye is going to wind up either at Hanners or Marigolds - God help her if she stumbles into Tai in this state!

[Torlek]

Marten you're an ass!

You have a friend who struggles with alcoholism and undergoes thearpy for it who suddenly comes home drunk one day and the best you can do is tell her not to throw up?
What kind of friend puts dancing with a scatter brain girl who is moving away and not planning to come back anytime soon over being supportive of their best friend?
Faye was there for you through your break up with Dora...

You deserve to be single!

Faye isn't really coherent enough to explain what's wrong. It's best to wait until she sobers up for a talk. She's also too shitfaced to go out again and(unless they have alcohol in the house already, which I doubt) isn't going to be drinking again in the immediate future. She will just go to sleep(as drunk people usually do) and they can talk when she is better at talking.

No, I forsee something far worse than Faye sleeping. Well, she might sleep. I'm just concerned about any activities that occur before sleeping. It is that time of year for massive upheavals in story line. I'm not of a mood to archive browse, but wasn't The Talk right before Thanksgiving too? (Also, is it bad that we can say The Talk, or The Fight or The Break-Up and know exactly which comics the person is referencing?)

[snubnose]

Yay, Comic !

Yay, Raven !

Yay, weekend ! Have a nice one, you all !

[Mustakyy]

Uh oh.

I felt a great disturbance in the forums, as if millions of forumites cried out if terror.. 


Im kinda suprised of Marten's reaction (which, imho seemed a bit harsh, but also kinda understandable), but Akronnick has a point. Faye is the master of hiding things from others, even when totally drunk, so he probably doesn't have a clue that she's in a kind of a"situation" here.

This has "Dooooooooooooooooom!" and/or "Drama!"  *cue the dramatical sound effect* written all over it. Hopefully im guessing wrong this time..



My guess... 17 pages, no thread-locking, thanks to swift actions of mods

[Fen]

Marten you're an ass!

You have a friend who struggles with alcoholism and undergoes thearpy for it who suddenly comes home drunk one day and the best you can do is tell her not to throw up?
What kind of friend puts dancing with a scatter brain girl who is moving away and not planning to come back anytime soon over being supportive of their best friend?
Faye was there for you through your break up with Dora...

You deserve to be single!

Faye isn't really coherent enough to explain what's wrong. It's best to wait until she sobers up for a talk. She's also too shitfaced to go out again and(unless they have alcohol in the house already, which I doubt) isn't going to be drinking again in the immediate future. She will just go to sleep(as drunk people usually do) and they can talk when she is better at talking.

No, I forsee something far worse than Faye sleeping. Well, she might sleep. I'm just concerned about any activities that occur before sleeping. It is that time of year for massive upheavals in story line. I'm not of a mood to archive browse, but wasn't The Talk right before Thanksgiving too? (Also, is it bad that we can say The Talk, or The Fight or The Break-Up and know exactly which comics the person is referencing?)

Sure, but that's a pretty meta way to judge. Saying ZOMG DRAMA TIME is one thing, hating on Marten for doing a rational thing is kinda silly.

[Soulsynger]

Marten's not being insensitive, Faye's not letting on something's wrong. She's very drunk, yes, but she's being a happy drunk; right now she's just coming off like she started celebrating early.

So, basically, right now they're both being idiots...

Faye did pick a thoroughly inappropriate timing for getting drunk, though.

[westrim]

I'm gonna be conservative and say 12 pages by Monday; no locking.

Ranting guaranteed to provoke a response.

IT BEGINS!

Uh oh.
All hands, brace for impact!

Close the hatches and prepare the pumps, there be a shitstorm abrewin!

...bitch about it on the forum but keep reading anyway.

So say we all.

The only time I ever visited NYC I think the thing that struck me the most was how much it really felt like you were in a maze... It was like...there was street below, sky overhead but the only thing on all sides were buildings. Like just buildings, no matter where you were, all the roads led to buildings. I was someone used to a horizon line being visible at least some direction - I was feeling really claustrophobic by the end of the day, heh.

This reminds me of me when I visited central Florida. No mountains on the horizon, just endless 100 foot trees. Even when I climbed a tower bordering a prairie, in the distance there was just more formless trees, like the ocean but without the feeling that there was something wondrous just over the horizon. I was very happy to get back to chaparral.


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Oh, screw you.

[cesariojpn]

My prediction for Friday

Knight Sabres

Momo as Nene?  Raven as Lina?  Faye as Priss?  Dora as Sylia?  Pintsize as Mackie is obvious.  Steve is probably a better choice for Leon than Marten. 

Hmmmm, sounds about right

But would Steve be a better Leon or Mason?

And who would be Galatia??

Tai is Wong.

[Skewbrow]

That... went actually better than it might have (and what I feared). Faye made it back to the apartment before 8 o'clock and met Marten instead of some less trustworthy person. Sleep on it, and talk about it tomorrow. Alternatively Faye could just sob a little, tell Marten what happened, receive an encouraging word and a hug (IOW the underpants incident redone, but sans Dora and the boxer mishap).

A visit to Dr Corinne's may be coming given that Faye may need an experience observer's opinion to put all this in perspective. Like telling her that: "Look, you're at this point on the healing curve. Congratulations, but you still need to ..."

[Soulsynger]

Why is it that Marten looks like he's about to break out in tears on every single panel? The dude's going through something. I smell huge (butt-)explosions next week.

(Also healing curves are an afront to human individuality!)

Marten: "Try not to puke on anything important."
Faye: "Hergh... LIKE YOUR CROTCH? Hurr, I say, hurr, bollocks."

[Tova]

I'm still giggling at "PIP PIP CHEERIO AND BUGGER ME BOLLOCKS".

[akronnick]

Do British people actually say "Pip, pip, cheerio?"

[Soulsynger]

I'm still giggling at "PIP PIP CHEERIO AND BUGGER ME BOLLOCKS".

Marten should've said "What's all this then?".

@akronnick:
They do say "Cheerio." from time to time. (rarer and rarer occasions), but I dont recall anyone ever using "Pip pip!" in any sentence or scenario. oO

[idontunderstand]

One thing I've always wondered is what the literal meaning of "bollocks" is.

[akronnick]

nuts
pills
balls
huevos
two veg

 

[WAYF]

Oh wow, it went right over my head that Angus leaving (and thus Faye getting drunk) co-incided with Padma throwing the dance party.
It's not like Faye to miss out on a party at all...
Actually, the fact that she deliberately got drunk BEFORE the party started indicates that she wants to avoid people right now, and therefore she's probably a lot more worried about this relationship than Angus or Marten or anyone could have reasonably predicted.
Although I guess something like this was bound to happen eventually. People don't just get over their hang-ups.

[Wagimawr]

the literal meaning of "bollocks"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bollocks

No, it's actually surprisingly not a euphemism.

[seaflower]

I really don't buy the whole Marten can't sense something is up. Both him and Dora have called Faye out for drinking in the past and her going to the therapist is common knowledge and lastly this behaviour is out of character with all the improvements she has been making. I think there is enough there for Marten to at least stick around, wait for Faye to sober up and be there to talk. Him leaving the situation when she seems to be backtracking is just wrong.

Plus Faye drinking when the break up was happening is another clue that fits with her having problems and a dependency on alcohol to avoid some emotional problems.

I get the he has a thing for Padma but Faye deserves more from him. She's been a bitch in the past but considering how she has grown and being there for him through the Dora thing...

I say either Marten's an ass , blind or a blind ass.

[WAYF]

How do we know that it's out of character for Faye to be drunk? As I recall, the problem was that she was drinking as a coping mechanism for stress. While that is certainly the case here, Marten doesn't know that, and I don't blame him, because this time around, Faye is actually being cheerful. The only thing he has to go on is that she got drunk unusually early, and she's apparently putting on a British accent. Given that he doesn't have a good indicator of what's going on, it's very difficult for him to handle that situation well. Therefore, if I'd had to deal with that sort of situation, I probably would have left her to sober up as well. If there is a problem, she will be more coherent and less likely to have a mood swing when she is sober.

[akronnick]

Marten hasn't actually left yet, it's possible that Faye will do or say something in Moday's strip that will alert him that something is amiss.




I can hope right?

[Paranoid]

I have to join the chorus and admit to being disappointed in Marten at the very least.  Alcoholic or not, Faye does have a history of abuse, something Marten knows all too well.  Now, I'm willing to go out on a limb here and suggest that he's still too nervous about dancing with Padma to think straight, but by now I would really like to think Marten would know Faye well enough that he doesn't need his full mental energy to figure out something is up.  I mean even at her worse I doubt Faye's ever been slammed before 8 before*, at least not when she had plans later that evening.  Now, I'm going to keep this in perspective and remember that Marten is not perfect, and that this comic wouldn't be as enjoyable to read if he was, but I still hope Hanners chews him out when he explains Faye's absence to her.

*Pre-moving in with Marten.  I make no claims nor judgments about her behavior before she moved upstate, especially given the circumstances leading up to that move.

[iduguphergrave]

I'd just like to put in that not letting her go out and make a fool of herself in public is considerate.

[akronnick]

I'd just like to put in that not letting her go out and make a fool of herself in public is considerate.

But he's not preventing that, he's ditching her. There's no telling what she might do if left to her own devices.

[Soulsynger]

I'd just like to put in that not letting her go out and make a fool of herself in public is considerate.

But he's not preventing that, he's ditching her. There's no telling what she might do if left to her own devices.

Anyone still remember the "show me your boobs" incident with Pintsize? He might get a second chance at that after all. The guy deserves some screen time, methinks.

[VonKleist]

Leaving Faye at the apartement = "Oh noes, Marten is such a bad friend"

Staying to make sure Faye doesn't do anything stupid = "Oh noes, Marten is such a bossy jerk"

[Vurogj]

Do British people actually say "Pip, pip, cheerio?"

Can I be British enough to have an answer for this, and pretend to be American enough to plead the fifth? 

Okay, fine, Yes, I have on occasion used these words, and on at least one of those I was sober too!

Is Faye's speech a side-effect of the Awkward Zone clothing, thus hinting she's in an awkard zone right now?

[nonethousand]

I'd just like to put in that not letting her go out and make a fool of herself in public is considerate.

But he's not preventing that, he's ditching her. There's no telling what she might do if left to her own devices.

I have to say that I'm more than happy the Marten-Faye relationship doesn't follow the same route as the Ross-Rachel one (Friends TV show)...

[Cornan]

Leaving Faye at the apartement = "Oh noes, Marten is such a bad friend"

Staying to make sure Faye doesn't do anything stupid = "Oh noes, Marten is such a bossy jerk"

Pretty much.

Remember, folks. We know things that Marten DOESN'T. He has no idea why Faye's drunk. He just knows that she came home after drinking too much. For all he knows she had a couple extra with Angus before he got on the train for NYC and came home silly. Blaming him for not asking her what's wrong only makes sense if you assume that he has a reason to equate Faye drinking with a "problem situation". Given how many times she's drank in the strip when there was NOTHING major going on this seems to be a silly leap to make. Faye did drink as a coping mechanism but it wasn't the ONLY reason she drank. Marten has no reason to assume anything out of the ordinary is going on and he's annoyed that his friend got trashed before they were going to go to a party so he plans to leave her at home. What's the big deal?

[Tova]

Leaving Faye at the apartement = "Oh noes, Marten is such a bad friend"

Staying to make sure Faye doesn't do anything stupid = "Oh noes, Marten is such a bossy jerk"

Pretty much.

Remember, folks. We know things that Marten DOESN'T. He has no idea why Faye's drunk. He just knows that she came home after drinking too much. For all he knows she had a couple extra with Angus before he got on the train for NYC and came home silly. Blaming him for not asking her what's wrong only makes sense if you assume that he has a reason to equate Faye drinking with a "problem situation". Given how many times she's drank in the strip when there was NOTHING major going on this seems to be a silly leap to make. Faye did drink as a coping mechanism but it wasn't the ONLY reason she drank. Marten has no reason to assume anything out of the ordinary is going on and he's annoyed that his friend got trashed before they were going to go to a party so he plans to leave her at home. What's the big deal?

You stole my reply!

Seriously, my exact thought on reading VonKleist's post was "Pretty much", then I scrolled down to see someone had already said it.

There are some terribly judgemental people around here...

[themacnut]

Yeah I get the distinct feeling from Marten's behavior toward her that he thinks Faye just got plastered on a whim, just 'cause she likes her liquor strong and plentiful. As Cornan said, Faye also gets drunk for fun, not just when she's stressed. And since she's putting on this cheerful facade, how's he to know any different? He can't read her mind, and he didn't see the I Love You exchange between her and Angus, so he really has no reason to suspect anything's wrong. Not unless she starts sobbing or otherwise looking downcast, and she probably won't let herself do either until after he leaves.

Marten's a guy, so like most guys he tends to miss the subtleties of female behavior that indicate something may be wrong with the woman in his life. I also strongly suspect that Faye wouldn't tell him anything was wrong at this point even if he asked. She'd just maintain the cheerful drunk demeanor and deny anything was up.

[westrim]

Yeah I get the distinct feeling from Marten's behavior toward her that he thinks Faye just got plastered on a whim, just 'cause she likes her liquor strong and plentiful. As Cornan said, Faye also gets drunk for fun, not just when she's stressed. And since she's putting on this cheerful facade, how's he to know any different? He can't read her mind, and he didn't see the I Love You exchange between her and Angus, so he really has no reason to suspect anything's wrong. Not unless she starts sobbing or otherwise looking downcast, and she probably won't let herself do either until after he leaves.

Marten's a guy, so like most guys he tends to miss the subtleties of female behavior that indicate something may be wrong with the woman in his life. I also strongly suspect that Faye wouldn't tell him anything was wrong at this point even if he asked. She'd just maintain the cheerful drunk demeanor and deny anything was up.

Why do you think it's a facade? Why would she sob or be downcast or have something wrong?

This isn't a negative event, this is a giant positive. She's reacting to its size, not its quality. The man she cares about said loves her, she said it back, and now she's grappling with the dimension of that. If she starts crying, they're gonna be tears of joy or tension, not sadness. Right now, she's genuinely, cheerfully happy- in vino veritas and all that.

[akronnick]

Because one does not order a "coping mechanism" if one if feeling cheerful.

[TheBiscuit]

Because one does not order a "coping mechanism" if one if feeling cheerful.

Bourbon has always been Faye's "coping mechanism". She is probably calling it that with regard to her personal  history. I'm sure she's a little unsettled by the events at the train station but perhaps not quite so much as that phrase might suggest.

[VonKleist]

Well, I..uhh.. heard there supposedly are people who are uncomfortable with that kind of display of affection and that it makes them run away justasquick. Even though they care for the person very much.

I do hope Faye´s just gonna wake up hung over and come to the conclusion she might as well let it go for now and see how things´ll turn out if you don't instantly obsess about ´em.

[Welu]

It could be a negative in that she's just realized how big the situation is, how attached she is to Angus and now the relationship isn't in the beginning, fun, casual stage any more. If the relationship ends now, it'll matter to her. She's scared of getting hurt again.

[themacnut]

Why do you think it's a facade? Why would she sob or be downcast or have something wrong?

This isn't a negative event, this is a giant positive. She's reacting to its size, not its quality. The man she cares about said loves her, she said it back, and now she's grappling with the dimension of that. If she starts crying, they're gonna be tears of joy or tension, not sadness. Right now, she's genuinely, cheerfully happy- in vino veritas and all that.

And if she is indeed genuinely happy over this (although she didn't seem that happy at the bar to me), considering it some kind of massive emotional breakthough, then Marten truly has no reason to suspect something's wrong requiring him to stay home and comfort her. He's perfectly justified in acting as he has, annoyed at the timing of this particular bender and resolving to leave her at home. I see nothing jerkish about that, especially if he doesn't think anything's wrong.