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Being a bio-droid WOULD be pretty awesome.
Hopefully not chunky soup.
People are indeed far worse than anything they create
I for one welcome our new waffle overlords

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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #250 on: 01 Dec 2011, 08:19 »

its http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture

how do I get it to link it to the words not the url?

You do this:

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[url=http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture]Twenty Minutes Into The Future[/url]
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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #251 on: 01 Dec 2011, 08:52 »

Hey, I'm really psyched for this fictional minority that exists in the real world! It seems that AIs aren't violently oppressed or dehumanised, yet there are still stereotypes and biases against them. There could be a whole AI rights movement, plus a bunch of people who claim the movement is no longer necessary - all this stuff you see with minorities all the time. Except in this way it can't hit any nerves  :-)
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« Reply #252 on: 01 Dec 2011, 09:18 »

It is a part of the grand (not necessarily limited to) sci-fi tradition of commenting on modern society while appearing to talk about something else.
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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #253 on: 01 Dec 2011, 09:37 »

Congratulations Jeff, me and my boyfriend got into an argument over the creepiness of Clinton.

I think this means your characters are way to realistic.

*she says about a sentient computer and a guy with a grope tastic hand*
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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #254 on: 01 Dec 2011, 09:40 »

Momo snarking. Love it. :-D
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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #255 on: 01 Dec 2011, 10:16 »

yeah YAY momo
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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #256 on: 01 Dec 2011, 10:26 »

Congratulations Jeff,

We like to call Jeph by his right name, please, as a matter of politeness.
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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #257 on: 01 Dec 2011, 10:28 »

For a while there I was pondering the idea of becoming both a bio-droid and a soupifier operator, but then I realized that that sounds suspiciously like the bio-droid equivalent of fast food to me.  Let creepy peons like Clinton operate the soup dispensers; I want to be best bio-droid that our robot overlords can make!

Ah, who am I kidding, I'll be lucky to even meet their standards to be made into soup, much less a bio-droid...
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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #258 on: 01 Dec 2011, 10:45 »

i'd be a good bio droid i already have the required contempt for humanity down
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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #259 on: 01 Dec 2011, 10:45 »

I'm not convinced Clinton lost his hand, I'd always assumed he just replaced it with something better because he could.
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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #260 on: 01 Dec 2011, 10:56 »

Well, then it had to go somewhere at some time, unless he was born without. 






Soup, anyone?  Just ignore the fingernails.  I mean, bay leaves. 
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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #261 on: 01 Dec 2011, 10:57 »

So, is "Soupify" one of the skills in Skyrim?
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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #262 on: 01 Dec 2011, 11:21 »

@Carl-E - I mean he probably knows where it is, and had it removed willingly.
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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #263 on: 01 Dec 2011, 11:26 »

I know, I know.  Funny thing is, most  people who lose an appendage know exactly  where it is, or at least, where it went...

It's the "willingly" part that's different! 
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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #264 on: 01 Dec 2011, 12:04 »

For comic #2069...

1. Art-wise, Hanners' top seems to have lost its front zipper?

2. "Bio-droids" seems to be crossing over more towards manga & anime rather than Terminator & The Matrix to me.  Of course, both medias have their Robot Apocalypse &/or Uprising scenarios :wink: .

3. [Charlton Heston voice]: "It's people!  The soylent tortilla with green chiles soup is made of people!  We've got to stop them somehow!"

4. [Jeph's comic comments]: "I predict that our robot overlords will want nothing whatsoever to do with us. If we ever invent it, the first thing an AI will do is bootstrap itself to omnipotence and then light out for the Kuiper Belt."  I am not certain why, but this reminds me of a CSI: Las Vegas episode ("Shooting Stars") with an alien-worshipping suicide-cult, the lone survivor (& murderer) is talking with Gil Grissom in the denouement of the episode.

 - Abigail Spencer (cultist/murderer): I know they're all up there... happy... healthy... perfect.  [sees Grissom's facial expression] You don't believe we're alone in the universe?

 - Grissom: Abigail... I'm sure if there is something out there looking down on us from somewhere else in the universe, they're wise enough to stay away from us.  [fade to black]
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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #265 on: 01 Dec 2011, 12:04 »

You'd think Marigold, of all people, would know that that's a road that ends with you naked and tearing your own arms off.
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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #266 on: 01 Dec 2011, 12:14 »

I dunno.  I mean, I wouldn't put it past someone like Clinton to lop off his own hand in favor of a mechanical one, but in comic 1909 he mentioned how he and others like himself benefited from his inventions, with a specific reference to his hand.  It just seems to me that if he was the sort to lop off his own hand he wouldn't be that aware of how people with legitimate problems would also have a need for cybernetics as well.
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« Reply #267 on: 01 Dec 2011, 12:35 »

I always figured that it was the replacement of his hand that sparked his (possibly latent) obsession with crossing the line between organic and synthetic life. I hope it's a story we get to learn more about at some stage.
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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #268 on: 01 Dec 2011, 13:20 »

Most definitely true Hanners.
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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #269 on: 01 Dec 2011, 13:58 »

1. Art-wise, Hanners' top seems to have lost its front zipper?
Definitely! But zipped or not, she is right on the money.
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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #270 on: 01 Dec 2011, 14:00 »

I'm not convinced Clinton lost his hand, I'd always assumed he just replaced it with something better because he could.
Well, then it had to go somewhere at some time, unless he was born without. 
@Carl-E - I mean he probably knows where it is, and had it removed willingly.
I know, I know.  Funny thing is, most  people who lose an appendage know exactly  where it is, or at least, where it went...

It's the "willingly" part that's different! 
I dunno.  I mean, I wouldn't put it past someone like Clinton to lop off his own hand in favor of a mechanical one, but in comic 1909 he mentioned how he and others like himself benefited from his inventions, with a specific reference to his hand.  It just seems to me that if he was the sort to lop off his own hand he wouldn't be that aware of how people with legitimate problems would also have a need for cybernetics as well.
I always figured that it was the replacement of his hand that sparked his (possibly latent) obsession with crossing the line between organic and synthetic life. I hope it's a story we get to learn more about at some stage.

I figure he lost his hand the same way he got zapped, being too excited to check things out and touch them- perhaps the latest and greatest flying tree trimmer. It makes me wonder (again) how he got this far with his attitude still in place. Aside for the meta "for comedy" reason, of course.

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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #271 on: 01 Dec 2011, 14:43 »

The meta is all
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« Reply #272 on: 01 Dec 2011, 16:07 »

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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #273 on: 01 Dec 2011, 16:33 »

Heh, I'm with Hanners on the robo vs. human scariness quotient.   :-D  Not sure Clinton would be a good soupifier operator, though -- he'd get all distracted and cause a souptastrophy, though I suppose the problem would right itself if he fell in.

Also, with all the robot waffle talk, I can't believe no one else posted this:


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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #274 on: 01 Dec 2011, 18:03 »

Maybe Clinton is an anthro PC! Created to be a perfect simulacrum of a nerdy human being, and as a safety measure they made one of his hands really obviously robotic so people's attention would be drawn from any subtler imperfections! A tin can hitman, try to catch him if you can, secret robo-agent with a secret robo-plan!!!

No...  I suspect Hanners is the AnthroPC.    :)     

As Lore was too perfect,  Dr. Soong created Data with all his myriad quirks, hangups, stumbling blocks and limitations.

Hannermom paid Hannerdad to create a synthetic daughter... for whatever reason.  Perhaps she cannot have children due to a medical issue.     

Think about it...  Hanners does have some intresting android-like abilities...  Her love of counting, her ability to audit thousands of files in mere hours/days...   

Yeah it fits, but I doubt Jeph is going in that direction storywise. 
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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #275 on: 01 Dec 2011, 18:20 »

Maybe Clinton is an anthro PC! Created to be a perfect simulacrum of a nerdy human being, and as a safety measure they made one of his hands really obviously robotic so people's attention would be drawn from any subtler imperfections! A tin can hitman, try to catch him if you can, secret robo-agent with a secret robo-plan!!!

im still waiting for the reveal when we learn that Clinton is actually an anthro pc who thinks he's human

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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #276 on: 01 Dec 2011, 18:37 »

Momo snarking. Love it. :-D

"You're not allowed to hang out with Pintsize anymore."

I always figured that it was the replacement of his hand that sparked his (possibly latent) obsession with crossing the line between organic and synthetic life. I hope it's a story we get to learn more about at some stage.

It all depends on how well thought out Jeph made his character. If he thought, "one-off creepy-stalker fanboi of Hannerdad" and nothing more, then he might have to "grow" the character like he did with Hanners.

Also: I don't think Clinton is an AnthroPC - but his hand is. Maybe it's not completely sentient like Pintsize & Momo, but it gives him a "connection" to the global AI mind.

Of course, I don't know if there's anyone who'd want to have an AnthroPC "attached" to them - literally.
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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #277 on: 01 Dec 2011, 19:01 »

Just noticed something. Don't know if it's significant or not. The last comic where Momo spoke was http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2037, and Jeph was using her own unique font. In today's comic her words are written in the same font as everyone else's. Oversight?  :?
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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #278 on: 01 Dec 2011, 19:06 »

I wouldn't mind momo attached to me nudge nudge wink wink say no more
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« Reply #279 on: 01 Dec 2011, 19:30 »

Just noticed something. Don't know if it's significant or not. The last comic where Momo spoke was http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2037, and Jeph was using her own unique font. In today's comic her words are written in the same font as everyone else's. Oversight?  :?

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« Reply #280 on: 01 Dec 2011, 19:46 »

She'd just been overheated...

Since she's gotten the larger chassis, her voice is more human.  When she was smaller, it was... different.  Tinnier, perhaps?  

Looking back, the main difference was the shape of the bubbles, and that her font is slightly more upright than that of the humans.  

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You don't get to call something until it actually happens...

I wouldn't mind momo attached to me nudge nudge wink wink say no more

Don't go there.  

Please.  



She has defenses, you know.  
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« Reply #281 on: 01 Dec 2011, 20:03 »

Well I thought of it and wrote it here first :p

And she probably doesn't have genitalia and wouldn't want to hang out with me anyways  :cry:
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« Reply #282 on: 01 Dec 2011, 20:05 »

Whoa, I check in and everything's fine an hour ago, then I check in now and we've taken a swerve to creepyville. There are way better ways to express your robosexuality, Yarin.
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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #283 on: 01 Dec 2011, 20:12 »

I have a house in creepyvile where I live year round and it's not just robots monsters aliens ghosts as long as its female sentient and legal age I'm game
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« Reply #284 on: 01 Dec 2011, 20:30 »

I have a house in creepyvile where I live year round and it's not just robots monsters aliens ghosts as long as its female sentient and legal age I'm game
You missed the point. I don't care what you're into, just don't say you're into it in a way that makes the mental image of a guy in a trenchcoat with one hand in his pocket leering at spring breakers.
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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #285 on: 01 Dec 2011, 20:39 »

She'd just bee overheated...

Since she's gotten the larger chassis, her voice is that of a human.  When she was smaller, it was... different.  Tinnier, perhaps?  


Not at all. In all the strips from her introduction, through getting her new chassis, until this one, her voice (font) has remained the same. The three Anthro PCs in the comic each have their own unique font. It's always been this way. So, was this an oversight on Jeph's part, or is Momo now, like Pinnochio, becoming a real girl?
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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #286 on: 01 Dec 2011, 21:42 »

You're absolutely right.  Although Momo's font was the closest to the human font of the three robots.  In fact, it wasn't until going back that I noticed the difference. 

However, the word bubbles did  change, but looking back it was not with her new chassis, but right before that.  Her last speech bubble that's square is in 1921, a robo gag strip, and before that in 1852, interacting with Angus.  But in 1994, right before the new chassis arc, her speech bubbles go round.  Although the toaster in 1999 has a square bubble. 

So, Jeph was already prepping her to be more human. 


Or yeah, the oversight thing.  But the toaster... I dunno. 
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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #287 on: 01 Dec 2011, 21:50 »

So, is "Soupify" one of the skills in Skyrim?

I'm thinking more rendering plant type of deals.
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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #288 on: 01 Dec 2011, 22:42 »

Wow and I thought I was pushing it with a joke about hot apple pie last week.


Anyways, I just wanted to say how neat it is that Jeph is so consistent with his art and lettering that a change in font for a character provokes a discussion. And by that I mean a genuine one, not nerd raging about how any change at all is bad and it is sodomizing our childhoods with fire.
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« Reply #289 on: 01 Dec 2011, 22:55 »

He's talked before about deliberately choosing fonts for the AnthroPC characters.
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« Reply #290 on: 01 Dec 2011, 23:35 »

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« Reply #291 on: 02 Dec 2011, 00:16 »

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Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
« Reply #292 on: 02 Dec 2011, 00:36 »

Also, Clinton is hella gross.

I am not even being sarcastic or anything, just naw. Clinton = NAW.
I think I actually hate Clinton. I don't know why. Maybe its his face?

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Somehow I cant see myself or others being as bad as a nuclear bomb ...
Nuclear bombs were created by people, and don't go off by themselves... If you throw a stone at someone and injure them, it is not the stone that is bad.
Hah... I would love to have this kind of conversation with a certain Thane Krios of Mass Effect 2 fame. Sorry for the nerd-insider, anyone who gets it might be tickled, though.
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« Reply #293 on: 02 Dec 2011, 00:53 »

You missed the point. I don't care what you're into, just don't say you're into it in a way that makes the mental image of a guy in a trenchcoat with one hand in his pocket leering at spring breakers.

Exactly.

Where is the "Don't Be That Guy" comic when you need it... :P
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« Reply #294 on: 02 Dec 2011, 00:56 »

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« Reply #295 on: 02 Dec 2011, 00:58 »

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« Reply #296 on: 02 Dec 2011, 01:30 »


4. [Jeph's comic comments]: "I predict that our robot overlords will want nothing whatsoever to do with us. If we ever invent it, the first thing an AI will do is bootstrap itself to omnipotence and then light out for the Kuiper Belt."  I am not certain why, but this reminds me of a CSI: Las Vegas episode ("Shooting Stars") with an alien-worshipping suicide-cult, the lone survivor (& murderer) is talking with Gil Grissom in the denouement of the episode.

 - Abigail Spencer (cultist/murderer): I know they're all up there... happy... healthy... perfect.  [sees Grissom's facial expression] You don't believe we're alone in the universe?

 - Grissom: Abigail... I'm sure if there is something out there looking down on us from somewhere else in the universe, they're wise enough to stay away from us.  [fade to black]

I've always found the Grissom position there a bit silly. Oh, yes, "what a fearful beast is Man" (is that a trope? it probably has a different name. Don't link it. No. Stop that), sobering look at ourselves as a species that's committed hideous atrocities, blah blah.

But what one forgets is that we are, to date, the only species to possess or at least enumerate a "code of ethics", and that many of the most heinous behaviors we engage in (e.g. infanticide) are evolutionarily advantageous!

The horror will be, I think, when we encounter other sapients, that they won't be aloof, superior, moral beings, even if they pretend to be. They'll be as flawed and morally degraded as humankind.

That, too, will be the ultimate danger of A.I.: not that they'll be born thinking they're superior, but that we'll teach them to be just like us.
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« Reply #297 on: 02 Dec 2011, 01:32 »

Reminds me of the old anti-drug PSA...

"From you alright! I learned by watching you!"
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« Reply #298 on: 02 Dec 2011, 01:43 »

It's just occurred to me that Jeph hasn't applied his new hair-texturing technique to Momo, so her hair now looks appropriately artificial in comparison with the human characters.

And the new strip is just weird...
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« Reply #299 on: 02 Dec 2011, 01:47 »

To be fair, there weren't that many e-mail accounts for Gary to send to on 1/1/1997.

At least not in our world. In QC world they may have developed the internet in 1965.
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