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Yes, it is here: What was the MOMENT OF THE WEEK?

Clinton describes AI emergence over burgers.
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S'not that incredible.
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We've been dreaming of that stuff for over 100 years!
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Whoa, I better STOP and CONSIDER the deep PHILOSOPHICAL IMPLICATIONS!
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"Innovation Fatigue"
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But that leads to COMPLACENCY!
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You can look at the stars and say "they sure are pretty"...
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...not if you want to GET to them someday.
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Years of therapy to not have a panic attack.
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Applied Robotics centerfold!
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Okay, you know what, I'm just gonna play this friends-style.
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Way to use the ol' willpower, Marten!
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C'mere. (WELP)
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SweetTits Cameo!
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I said, "You're Trouble."
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I'm in trouble.
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My grandma's doing okay... stick around a few weeks longer?
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GOLD MEDALIST!
- 1 (1%)
GRAMMY WINNER!
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FIRST MAN TO MARS!
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TIME MAN OF TEH YEAR!
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"Yeah, that'd be pretty cool."
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WCDT 2071-75 (Dec. 5-9, 2011)
« on: 03 Dec 2011, 18:58 »

Getting my mind off of the Badgers losing in Indy and the Preds losing to Buffalo.

Jeph could go in like a million different ways before year's end. I'm just here for the party.

EDIT: Fixed the header; I'm never sure which to put first, the strip numbers or the dates. :S
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Re: WCDT Dec. 5-9, 2011 (2071-75)
« Reply #1 on: 03 Dec 2011, 19:11 »

That's «Mes Frères».  8-)

Oh, and I'm pretty sure that "first argument" would have to be a flashback.  Like, to some time before http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=375 ... :angel:
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Re: WCDT Dec. 5-9, 2011 (2071-75)
« Reply #2 on: 03 Dec 2011, 19:30 »

I don't care. 

About anything. 


The percocet's working...   :-D

Man, it's hard to type. 


I got hit by a car while walking the dog this evening.  Nothing's broken, but I'm gonna be hurting for a while. 
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Re: WCDT Dec. 5-9, 2011 (2071-75)
« Reply #3 on: 03 Dec 2011, 19:52 »

The moment of the week last week was of course:

Faye: I did mean it retroactively!

Angus: Good enough.


D'awww.
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Re: WCDT Dec. 5-9, 2011 (2071-75)
« Reply #4 on: 03 Dec 2011, 20:02 »

Even weirder is if Clinton flirted with momo
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Re: WCDT Dec. 5-9, 2011 (2071-75)
« Reply #5 on: 03 Dec 2011, 20:36 »

@Carl-E:
Man, you've had a few ... Situations lately.

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Re: WCDT Dec. 5-9, 2011 (2071-75)
« Reply #6 on: 03 Dec 2011, 21:50 »

Ditto DSL.

You want weirdness?  Howabout MOMO  hitting on Clinton?!    :-D
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Re: WCDT Dec. 5-9, 2011 (2071-75)
« Reply #7 on: 03 Dec 2011, 23:03 »

Dale tries to get into Marigold's head by hitting on Momo.
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Re: WCDT Dec. 5-9, 2011 (2071-75)
« Reply #8 on: 03 Dec 2011, 23:58 »

I think the consequences of messing with Momo have been demonstrated quite thoroughly by now, thank you  :-P
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Re: WCDT Dec. 5-9, 2011 (2071-75)
« Reply #9 on: 04 Dec 2011, 00:20 »

Would Dale's Gendo glasses deflect the Momotaser? 

Probably not, but it was a fun sentence to type! 
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« Reply #10 on: 04 Dec 2011, 03:24 »

Momo spontaneously gets a computer virus, and tries to seduce Sven in her new body.

Wait, a thought occurred to me. Would hitting on Momo in her current body be considered Pedophilia/Statutory rape/Corruption of a minor/Carnal knowledge of a minor/Unlawful carnal knowledge?
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Re: WCDT Dec. 5-9, 2011 (2071-75)
« Reply #11 on: 04 Dec 2011, 04:00 »

I don't care. 

About anything. 

The percocet's working...   :-D

Man, it's hard to type. 

I got hit by a car while walking the dog this evening.  Nothing's broken, but I'm gonna be hurting for a while. 

Dog is okay too, right?

Glad to hear you're okay.
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« Reply #12 on: 04 Dec 2011, 04:02 »

Momo spontaneously gets a computer virus, and tries to seduce Sven in her new body.

Wait, a thought occurred to me. Would hitting on Momo in her current body be considered Pedophilia/Statutory rape/Corruption of a minor/Carnal knowledge of a minor/Unlawful carnal knowledge?
Maybe? Jeph might know. Sapient robots are a non-existent legal class in our world so there are no direct equivalents to base a suggestion on. Even simple appearance is not enough, since there are (adult) women out there who have made careers out of being short and youthful enough to pass for minors on cursory inspection but without the legal issues of actually being minors. And while there is the issue of age (Momo is 'technically only 2.7 years old' after all) we don't know what, if any, exceptions to consent rules are made on behalf of a species that is effectively born as an adult. Then we have to throw in the fact that Pintsize is 'glad they legalised human/anthro-PC makeouts' as described to Clinton the first time around; that could have been Pintsize being Pintsize of course, but neither Marten nor Clinton objected so there must be rules that we have not been made aware of yet.

Also, is that the 300th or 400th time that link has been posted since Momo got her new chassis?
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Re: WCDT 2071-75 (Dec. 5-9, 2011)
« Reply #13 on: 04 Dec 2011, 04:04 »

No, it's about the 500th.
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« Reply #14 on: 04 Dec 2011, 10:12 »

Wait, a thought occurred to me. Would hitting on Momo in her current body be considered Pedophilia/Statutory rape/Corruption of a minor/Carnal knowledge of a minor/Unlawful carnal knowledge?

I don't think so. Sex offense laws also cover the act of showing a minor pornography- and since both Pintsize and Momo have been shown repeatedly being given vast quantities of the stuff by the cast, I think it's a pretty safe bet that in the QC world AnthroPCs aren't considered children.
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Re: WCDT 2071-75 (Dec. 5-9, 2011)
« Reply #15 on: 04 Dec 2011, 10:29 »

No, it's about the 500th.

516 by my count. It boggles the mind and it's best not to think about it
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« Reply #16 on: 04 Dec 2011, 11:30 »

Then we have to throw in the fact that Pintsize is 'glad they legalised human/anthro-PC makeouts' as described to Clinton the first time around; that could have been Pintsize being Pintsize of course, but neither Marten nor Clinton objected so there must be rules that we have not been made aware of yet.

I read it as "Pintsize being Pintsize", and that they were both ingoring him.  Clinton was interviewing Marten, not Pintsize, and Marten (like any parent) was tuning out the background noise. 
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Re: WCDT 2071-75 (Dec. 5-9, 2011)
« Reply #17 on: 04 Dec 2011, 11:54 »

Clinton was, officially, interviewing them both and is enough of a nerd to have corrected Pitsize if he thought the lil'guy was wrong.
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« Reply #18 on: 04 Dec 2011, 11:59 »

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« Reply #19 on: 04 Dec 2011, 15:55 »

Is that the same waffles option you've done before?
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« Reply #20 on: 04 Dec 2011, 15:57 »

I don't think so. Sex offense laws also cover the act of showing a minor pornography- and since both Pintsize and Momo have been shown repeatedly being given vast quantities of the stuff by the cast, I think it's a pretty safe bet that in the QC world AnthroPCs aren't considered children.

IIRC as well, Hanners had to shut down her Wi-Fi due to Winslow being spammed with porn from Pintsize.
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Re: WCDT 2071-75 (Dec. 5-9, 2011)
« Reply #22 on: 04 Dec 2011, 17:32 »

I love that that comic demonstrates one of Hanner's basic coping mechanisms. 

"It's easier not to fixate on cleaning if I don't have much stuff to clean."


I wonder if that was one of Dr. Corrine's ideas? 
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Re: WCDT 2071-75 (Dec. 5-9, 2011)
« Reply #23 on: 04 Dec 2011, 20:31 »

Pintsize sends porn to Winslow.

See, why do I get grief over posting a canon fantasy sexual act in the comics, yet this doesn't get a whisper?!!
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Re: WCDT 2071-75 (Dec. 5-9, 2011)
« Reply #24 on: 04 Dec 2011, 21:01 »

Because 1658* is the Rickroll of the QC Forum.


* No, I didn't have to look it up, and no, I'm not gonna link to it. And this is from the guy who loves a Trope Trap!
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Re: WCDT 2071-75 (Dec. 5-9, 2011)
« Reply #25 on: 04 Dec 2011, 23:18 »

I'd just like to say that quite frankly I'm surprised no one seems to have a problem with the fact that Clinton dresses like he's in a barbershop quartet. Am I the only one who found that odd? Then again, he's definitely an...odd guy.  :psyduck:
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Re: WCDT 2071-75 (Dec. 5-9, 2011)
« Reply #26 on: 04 Dec 2011, 23:38 »

It is a bit odd. Then again he works at a CS department. Usually that means that all the social norms re attire go out of the window. The same applies to math departments. that bit coming from someone who was habitually wearing his camouflage battledress to algebraic geometry lectures

May be it is his idea of dressed to kill ?
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« Reply #27 on: 05 Dec 2011, 02:10 »

Implications, schmimplications!
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« Reply #28 on: 05 Dec 2011, 02:35 »

I got hit by a car while walking the dog this evening.  Nothing's broken, but I'm gonna be hurting for a while.  
But the dog finally caught the car, right?


Exactly what are the philosophical implications of flying? That doesn't seem like a good comparison to me, but that's probably because most things that have heavy philosophical implications like creating a new class of sentient life lead to Sad Things.
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« Reply #29 on: 05 Dec 2011, 03:04 »

Exactly what are the philosophical implications of flying? That doesn't seem like a good comparison to me, but that's probably because most things that have heavy philosophical implications like creating a new class of sentient life lead to Sad Things.

Philosophical Implications of Invention?

It's about doing something man "was not meant to do". The ridiculous belief someone will always pull out of a hat that "God" would have slapped gills or wings or wheels on us if he had "meant" us to do whatever it is that an invention allows us to do. The silly navel-gazing notion that the things we build are "playing God".

With just about EVERY breakthrough invention some cheesehead will pull out the Philosophical Implications, ESPECIALLY when (as happens frequently with prototypes) an accident occurs and someone gets killed. With the plane, some idiot spouted "if God had meant man to fly, He would have given him wings". When they started building big ships, they were "sailing in the face of God". Trains, space travel... whatever it is, there will be SOMEONE out there sighing about how "God" never "meant" us to build 'em.
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Re: WCDT Dec. 5-9, 2011 (2071-75)
« Reply #30 on: 05 Dec 2011, 03:08 »

I got hit by a car while walking the dog this evening.  Nothing's broken, but I'm gonna be hurting for a while.  
But the dog finally caught the car, right?


Exactly what are the philosophical implications of flying? That doesn't seem like a good comparison to me, but that's probably because most things that have heavy philosophical implications like creating a new class of sentient life lead to Sad Things.

Probably along the lines of "man is not supposed to fly" or some other bollocks.

>While you were posting, somebody already went ahead and made the point you were going to make.

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« Reply #31 on: 05 Dec 2011, 03:16 »

... Despite which, people went right on making, flying and improving airplanes until even those  of us who rarely fly can't imagine life without them and/or don't realize how much everyday life depends on someone or something taken somewhere by air.
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Re: WCDT Dec. 5-9, 2011 (2071-75)
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Exactly what are the philosophical implications of flying? That doesn't seem like a good comparison to me, but that's probably because most things that have heavy philosophical implications like creating a new class of sentient life lead to Sad Things.

Philosophical Implications of Invention?

It's about doing something man "was not meant to do". The ridiculous belief someone will always pull out of a hat that "God" would have slapped gills or wings or wheels on us if he had "meant" us to do whatever it is that an invention allows us to do. The silly navel-gazing notion that the things we build are "playing God".

With just about EVERY breakthrough invention some cheesehead will pull out the Philosophical Implications, ESPECIALLY when (as happens frequently with prototypes) an accident occurs and someone gets killed. With the plane, some idiot spouted "if God had meant man to fly, He would have given him wings". When they started building big ships, they were "sailing in the face of God". Trains, space travel... whatever it is, there will be SOMEONE out there sighing about how "God" never "meant" us to build 'em.

God gave us the ability to create these things, I think he intended for us to go forward and advance our society with them. Of course, I don't think he approves of some of the things we've done with them, but that's another thread topic all together.
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Re: WCDT 2071-75 (Dec. 5-9, 2011)
« Reply #33 on: 05 Dec 2011, 03:30 »

The question which I have is...how on Earth did Clinton the really rather creepy at times end up in going for coffee with Hannelore, Marigold and Momo?

(Also, this might be the first week in ages when I haven't considered "Waffles" to be the obvious comedy choice in the poll.  "Even MORE Weirdness: Dale SEES Clinton hitting on Marigold!" would either lead to all manner of insanity OR a completely unbothered "meh" from Dale.  I can't decide)
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« Reply #34 on: 05 Dec 2011, 03:36 »

I saw Dale at Five Guys last night.  Glsses, short small dreds, about 6'1" or 2", square jaw...

Didn't get a pic, so I guess it didn't happen...
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« Reply #35 on: 05 Dec 2011, 03:45 »

But did the glasses light up?
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« Reply #36 on: 05 Dec 2011, 04:48 »

They only light up when Marigold's near.  They're like Sting* that way.

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Re: WCDT Dec. 5-9, 2011 (2071-75)
« Reply #37 on: 05 Dec 2011, 04:54 »

Exactly what are the philosophical implications of flying? That doesn't seem like a good comparison to me, but that's probably because most things that have heavy philosophical implications like creating a new class of sentient life lead to Sad Things.

Philosophical Implications of Invention?

It's about doing something man "was not meant to do". The ridiculous belief someone will always pull out of a hat that "God" would have slapped gills or wings or wheels on us if he had "meant" us to do whatever it is that an invention allows us to do. The silly navel-gazing notion that the things we build are "playing God".

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Long time reader, first time poster... but I just had to pipe up here :)

"I am become death, the destroyer of worlds."

Whether or not man was meant to discover/invent something is irrelevant.  It's simply in our nature to do so, and is unavoidable.  However, there are times when its not a bad idea to contemplate the consequences of that new found knowledge being in the hands of a inherently savage and brutal creature.

All that said, Clinton bugs the hell out of me... there's just something... off about the dude.  First character I honestly just can't really stand.
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Re: WCDT Dec. 5-9, 2011 (2071-75)
« Reply #38 on: 05 Dec 2011, 05:10 »

Whether or not man was meant to discover/invent something is irrelevant.

Absolutely, positively untrue. The concept that man is deemed (by God or otherwise) to be forbidden from creating, utilizing or discovering something is far from irrelevant- the adherents of dogma have used the argument that "we are not meant" to do things from the earliest days of science all the way up to the present day.

However, there are times when its not a bad idea to contemplate the consequences of that new found knowledge being in the hands of a inherently savage and brutal creature.

I was hoping to use this.
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« Reply #39 on: 05 Dec 2011, 05:24 »

Whether or not man was meant to discover/invent something is irrelevant.

Absolutely, positively untrue. The concept that man is deemed (by God or otherwise) to be forbidden from creating, utilizing or discovering something is far from irrelevant- the adherents of dogma have used the argument that "we are not meant" to do things from the earliest days of science all the way up to the present day.

However, there are times when its not a bad idea to contemplate the consequences of that new found knowledge being in the hands of a inherently savage and brutal creature.

I was hoping to use this.

It's irrelevant in that we're going to seek out new knowledge regardless of whatever dogma is in vogue at the time.  That's our nature, and we'll justify it in some way or other.  Somebody will always defy dogma at some point.  It's irrelevant in that for good or ill, it will happen.

So, the question about whether we should continually seek out new knowledge is moot.  What we do with that knowledge though, that's whats important.

Personally, my only issue is the way that man has this nasty habit of placing himself far too highly in the scheme of things.

The time immediately prior to the first world war is a prime example.  Throughout western civilization there was a tendency towards the belief that, through science and rationalism, mankind had transcended nature.  The sinking of an "unsinkable ship" and the loss of thousands of lives laid bare the flaws in that thinking.  But now, as always, history is repeating itself and I just worry if it'll take another tragedy like world war one, that see the loss of entire generations of families across horrific scales, to set things in balance again.
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Re: WCDT Dec. 5-9, 2011 (2071-75)
« Reply #40 on: 05 Dec 2011, 05:45 »

Somebody will always defy dogma at some point.  It's irrelevant in that for good or ill, it will happen.

Up until whatever group is in power decides to kill whoever has made that defiance and burns their papers. You use the term "new" knowledge-

But how do you know it's "new"? We're living at the still-fragile emergence from a several-thousand-year informational dark age, where entire town-size libraries were burned to the ground and people thought showering was passe. Who knows what our current existence is built on top of, given all that was lost?

Throughout western civilization there was a tendency towards the belief that, through science and rationalism, mankind had transcended nature.  The sinking of an "unsinkable ship" and the loss of thousands of lives laid bare the flaws in that thinking.

Or maybe it was the rushed production, the incompetence of the ship's crew, the substandard steel, the ignoring of updated safety signal protocols and the improper ratio of lifeboats-to-passengers?

Man "transcends" nature every single day, otherwise we'd all be naked cave people sitting around in a field getting eaten by whatever happens to come across us. We are human by our very transcendence of nature, by the idea that we are not limited to "what God gave us". If God put us here, he put us here naked and stickless. It was us, not he, who sharpened that stick and became the creator of invention.
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Re: WCDT Dec. 5-9, 2011 (2071-75)
« Reply #41 on: 05 Dec 2011, 06:06 »

With just about EVERY breakthrough invention some cheesehead will pull out the Philosophical Implications, ESPECIALLY when (as happens frequently with prototypes) an accident occurs and someone gets killed.

Hey, now, I don't do that.

Unless you want me to start? I can, you know.
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Re: WCDT 2071-75 (Dec. 5-9, 2011)
« Reply #42 on: 05 Dec 2011, 06:09 »

The question which I have is...how on Earth did Clinton the really rather creepy at times end up in going for coffee with Hannelore, Marigold and Momo?
Probably because they don't see him as being that creepy.  Or, at least Hannelore doesn't.  Remember, the incident when Clinton stalked Hannelore was resolved to everyone's satisfaction (well, almost everyone :evil:).  I do admit to getting the impression that Marigold is... 'unimpressed' with Clinton though, although I doubt she'll say anything overtly aggressive in front of Hannelore as long as she accepts Clinton.  As long as Hannelore is willing to give Clinton the benefit of the doubt I'm sure Marigold will try too.
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Re: WCDT 2071-75 (Dec. 5-9, 2011)
« Reply #43 on: 05 Dec 2011, 06:11 »

I'd just like to say that quite frankly I'm surprised no one seems to have a problem with the fact that Clinton dresses like he's in a barbershop quartet. Am I the only one who found that odd? Then again, he's definitely an...odd guy.  :psyduck:

Seems to me Wil dresses the same way sometimes.  White shirt with a bowtie.

As far as opposition to new technology goes a often told story is that some people opposed the lightning rod after Ben Franklin began to experiment with the concept in the 1750s, cliaiming it interfered with God's will.  Opposition eventually faded away as the value of the idea became obvious.

The "against God's will" argument about anything strikes me as silly.  An omnipotent God could smite you with lightning no matter how many llightning rods you stuck on your tall building.
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Re: WCDT 2071-75 (Dec. 5-9, 2011)
« Reply #44 on: 05 Dec 2011, 06:35 »

Minor thing of note - I believe this is the first time we've ever seen the interior of the restaurant where they all ate. If trajectory is to be believed, it's a few doors down from CoD. 
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Re: WCDT Dec. 5-9, 2011 (2071-75)
« Reply #45 on: 05 Dec 2011, 08:00 »

With just about EVERY breakthrough invention some cheesehead will pull out the Philosophical Implications, ESPECIALLY when (as happens frequently with prototypes) an accident occurs and someone gets killed.

Hey, now, I don't do that.

Unless you want me to start? I can, you know.

Go right ahead, what's the worst that could happen?

(which likely demonstrates the limitations on my imagination, rather than how much worse it could get)
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Re: WCDT 2071-75 (Dec. 5-9, 2011)
« Reply #46 on: 05 Dec 2011, 08:43 »

While I wouldn't be as excited as Clinton I wouldn't be as "meh" about it as Marigold.
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Re: WCDT 2071-75 (Dec. 5-9, 2011)
« Reply #47 on: 05 Dec 2011, 08:45 »

Philosophy has mostly taken for granted that philosophers were always human.

Now there's a new viewpoint in the world, a fresh look at all the old questions.
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Re: WCDT 2071-75 (Dec. 5-9, 2011)
« Reply #48 on: 05 Dec 2011, 09:06 »

Philosophy has mostly taken for granted that philosophers were always human.

Now there's a new viewpoint in the world, a fresh look at all the old questions.

Yeah, I'm hoping there's at least one strip this week in which Momo gets most of the dialogue. Conflict between Momo and her " owner" might make for some interesting strips, too. Hope Jeph takes a swipe at it, if not now, then down the road; it's clearly something he's thought about,
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Re: WCDT 2071-75 (Dec. 5-9, 2011)
« Reply #49 on: 05 Dec 2011, 09:10 »

it has to be after the allure of her new chassis has worn off
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