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Faye points out the obvious: you both had feelings for each other.

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What was I supposed to do? (Oh, I dunno, BE DECENT about it?)

1 (1.4%)

She was leaving. (You could have at LEAST said you tried.)

0 (0%)

Yeah, all that got you was your entire current life.

2 (2.7%)

It IS a waste, because you're WASTING it.

4 (5.5%)

You just owned me there...

2 (2.7%)

Being passive is his nature.

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You gotta DO Stuff.

1 (1.4%)

...break out the guitar.

1 (1.4%)

SOPA SUCKS.

8 (11%)

Pintsize apologizes.

1 (1.4%)

Pintsize was in MEXICO!

1 (1.4%)

McPedro and Choo-Choo Bear!

3 (4.1%)

Hannerdad's havin' a birthday!

5 (6.8%)

Can I bring Marten & Marigold?

3 (4.1%)

I KNOW Marten's safe.

0 (0%)

Marigold.... (FRRRRT)

7 (9.6%)

I'm PRETTY SURE she's not a secret robot.

5 (6.8%)

I have a question for you guys...

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See, it's my dad's birthday next week...

0 (0%)

Dad also said I could bring some friends with me...

1 (1.4%)

YES

28 (38.4%)

Total Members Voted: 63

[jwhouk]

Mr. Hodges has pointed out that we are at a point in the QC Universe where we really have no idea where Jeph's taking the story after this. Ergo, the poll

However, this is the discussion thread for the next week. Enjoy the beginning of Volume 8.*





* - Yes, I'm a total geek about it, but if Jeph does continue on the 300-strips-per-volume pace, this would be the start of Volume 8 of the QC archives.

[akronnick]

The only option on the poll that has eve a remote possibility is "Something Completely Different.""

[Kugai]

-Momo's Harddrive gets corrupted (possibly by Pintsize), has a personality change, swaps her chassis and changes his name to Mo.
-Hannelore gets stuck at one of Tai's parties, gets roaring drunk and wakes up in bed with Tai and Dora after a drunken night of debauchery.  She has an epiphany and -ends up in a threesome with them.
-Faye and Angus get married
-Marten and RAVEN get married and take over Coffee of Doom
-Pintsize is sent on a one way trip to Titan as the AI of a iNASA Probe
-Winslow accidentally finds the chassis that Hanners father sent her all that time ago, transfers himself into it and eventually winds um as Hanners Mom's Toyboy.
-Padma returns after a year as a Nun.
-Veronica Vance and Dora's Dad hook up after Dora's Mom, while in a stoned haze, has a weird vision and goes to India and joins an Ashram run by a famous Guru.

[Is it cold in here?]

Please, no unsupported orientation-incompatible sexual speculation.

Marten moving on seems possible, given that it's about time and that there have been some threads of plot development pointing in that direction.

There's room for more exploration of Momo's new life, and that could be fun.

[CrowFairy]

I voted for Marigold character development because it was so interesting to see her spliced into the intense Marten and Padma stuff. I know Momo was a bit more focused on, but it felt like Marigold was at the center of it all. Kind of feels like that would be one of the more natural directions for things to go. Maybe she and Marten will learn about letting go of grudges together. Which would be a nice change of pace and would mean more information about Dale, I think.

[Carl-E]

-Hannelore gets stuck at one of Tai's parties, gets roaring drunk and wakes up in bed with Tai and Dora after a drunken night of debauchery.  She has an epiphany and -ends up in a threesome with them.

I think you have this out of order... isn't "wakes up in bed with Tai and Dora after a drunken night of debauchery" the definition of a threesome? 

 

[purple.platypus]

-Hannelore gets stuck at one of Tai's parties, gets roaring drunk and wakes up in bed with Tai and Dora after a drunken night of debauchery.  She has an epiphany and -ends up in a threesome with them.

I think you have this out of order... isn't "wakes up in bed with Tai and Dora after a drunken night of debauchery" the definition of a threesome? 

Depends. Did anything actually happen the night before, or does she just assume it did?

(NOT endorsing this possibility as even remotely likely, but if the first part were to occur, there'd most likely be a perfectly innocent - yet hilarious - explanation.)

[Sidhekin]

http://gogetaroomie.chloe-art.com/2012/01/well-hello-there/

Nope.  Not likely at all.

Enjoyable though.  Definitely enjoyable.

[Kugai]

I meant that in jest along with the other 'Possibilities' I mentioned.

In all likelihood, that's about as likely as Charlie Sheen becoming a Trapist Monk and taking a Vow of Silence.

[pwhodges]

Sadly, even jests can lead to trouble....

[DSL]

Titan sends Pintsize back.

[ZBixby]

Hanners confesses her undying love to Marten now there's remotely possible

[pwhodges]

Associating Hanners with anyone is reserved for Jeph, and is forbidden here:

There's a reason I don't read the forums anymore.  Hanners.

[AnAverageWriter]

Associating Hanners with anyone is reserved for Jeph, and forbidden here:

There's a reason I don't read the forums anymore.  Hanners.

Yeah, Jeph doesn't like people sailing Hannelore ships across the forum waters. Isn't that mentioned in one of the introduction topics or something?

[ZBixby]

.... Maybe I should have added the /sarcasm tag to the end, I thought we were giving out unlikely scenarios.

[iduguphergrave]

http://gogetaroomie.chloe-art.com/2012/01/well-hello-there/

Nope.  Not likely at all.

Enjoyable though.  Definitely enjoyable.

Thanks for the inspiration for an impromptu archive binge. I was supposed to leave ten minutes ago!    

(that's an awesome comic though; can't wait to get caught up)

[pwhodges]

.... Maybe I should have added the /sarcasm tag to the end, I thought we were giving out unlikely scenarios.

Probably prudent.

The worst bad things happened long before you joined the forum; however, we work to ensure that those times don't return.

[ZBixby]

.... Maybe I should have added the /sarcasm tag to the end, I thought we were giving out unlikely scenarios.

Probably prudent.

The worst bad things happened long before you joined the forum; however, we work to ensure that those times don't return.

Fair enough, I'll do my best to watch what I say

[jwhouk]

Of course, it'd be funny if Jeph brought a new character in to woo Hanners - just to screw with us.

[pwhodges]

<FX>bites lip</FX>

[jwhouk]

Sorry. I'll remember the mantra - it's Jeph's comic, we're just here for the ride.

[ZBixby]

Sorry. I'll remember the mantra - it's Jeph's comic, we're just here for the ride.

Bitching and Complaining the whole way?

[Kugai]

Only on days endiNg in a Y

[akronnick]

And states that are spelled with an 'e.' Like Idaho.

[Overkillengine]

About time Marten got hit with a clue-by-four. 

[Vista]

Now we agree with most of what Faye said, and then debate whether or not it's fair for her to attribute his current life to whats-her-name, pre-Dora.

It's fair enough to say that if he had not been the "kind of guy" who would have tried as he did, he probably wouldn't have made the friends that he has.  But to imply that he's not currently that "kind of guy" in most situations (which aren't a strict parallel to a prior even in which he failed to achieve a goal)?

Also, I wouldn't say that Marten's life is so great.

[truestatic]

Nice to see Faye and Marten actually talk it over.  I don't know that she owned him that hard, but he disagrees, and I guess that's what matters.  I guess now he can stop being so irate and defiant and just be circumspect and reflective.  Which is good.  As for where do we go from here... I don't know.  I think the suggestion of exploring Momo-tan's newly found bigness a little more definitely has potential, though.  =]  SURPRISE ME, JEPH.

[CompSarge]

WELP.

Faye sure told HIM. 

Warning - while you were typing, someone else beat you to it. Better luck next time, stupid!

[haikupoet]

Would be interesting to see if we've really seen the last of Padma.

[Is it cold in here?]

Noteworthy that Marten didn't play the hypocrisy card.

Dora tried to lever him out of his rut: Faye has escalated to dynamite.

[Tova]

At least he has one thing going for him - Marten's ability to recognise the truth of what he was told (as blatant as it was) is a credit to him.

[iduguphergrave]

Noteworthy that Marten didn't play the hypocrisy card.

This isn't over yet; that could still be a rebuttal (if he isn't too destroyed, which he might be).

Marten's going to need a hug when this is over.


I could use one  

[Tova]

I've got a spare here.
*hug*

[haikupoet]

Would be nice if Marten found a way to pick up the pieces.

[CrowFairy]

I'd like to take a moment just to say this: I love everything about the way Faye's entire head is drawn in the last panel. Her face, her hair, everything. Nothing wrong with the rest of the strip, but that really stuck out as something worthy of commenting on because I appreciated it so much.

[iduguphergrave]

I've got a spare here.
*hug*

thank you 

[Method of Madness]

Marten definitely needed that.

[Emperor Norton]

Ok, so... just one question.

If Faye realised all the stuff she said in the first panel... why in god's name did she not tell him that back in 2095. or 2098?

It seems an oddly specific analysis if it just hit her right then. And if it did hit her right then, why would she have expected it to hit him earlier?

[Armadillo]

"Pissy Little Bitch?"  Holy crap, that seems awfully uncalled for.  Can the poor dude get through a single day without one of his "friends" going after his emotional junk with an emotional steel-toed boot?

Also, the multiple times he "tried" to contact Padma apparently weren't enough.  In Faye's mind, does Padma bear ANY responsibility for this, or is it ALL MARTEN'S FAULT YET AGAIN GODDAMMIT?

[Omega Entity]

Faye did acknowledge that Padma had distanced herself, though. And while what Padma did wasn't the right way to go, Marten went the petty route. Marten had a chance to ask Padma what the deal was, and he used that opportunity to 'get back' at Padma. Honestly, I think Faye pretty much hit the nail on the head, and imo, is saying exactly what Marten needs to hear.

[FunkyTuba]

Hands are still up, coaster is still rolling. Still enjoying the ride.

[WAYF]

At least he has one thing going for him - Marten's ability to recognise the truth of what he was told (as blatant as it was) is a credit to him.

Automatically making him better than pretty much everyone on the internet.

Also, good on Faye. Marten needs her to tell it like it is to him.
Come to think of it, when Faye is down he generally does the same to her, although it's a lot less "get a hold on yourself" and more reassuring.

[snubnose]

Dammit, cant choose Hanners, because its so rare Raven gets her own option !

If I may summarize todays Comics: men are supposed to be able to read a womans mind, and if they dont, well, its the mans fault.

Aha.

-Marten and RAVEN get married and take over Coffee of Doom

Ouch. Raven + Marten, thats stuff of nightmares.

[Toe]

Would be nice if Marten found a way to pick up the pieces.

Calling it: tomorrow's comic is Marten locking himself in his room, with Tool's Schism playing on repeat.

[snubnose]

Also, I wouldn't say that Marten's life is so great.

QFT

Would be interesting to see if we've really seen the last of Padma.

... one can dream. Personally I find Padma as a black clone of Dora who is quite dim at times very annoying.

If Faye realised all the stuff she said in the first panel... why in god's name did she not tell him that back in 2095. or 2098?

Good question, I have no clue whatsoever.

[Delator]

Wasting what  exactly, Faye?

His life?

...and when did that start? When he broke it off with some chick the other day?  

[Is it cold in here?]

Faye deftly changed the subject before it could take root, but Marten's "I've tried before" might not necessarily have been a reference to Vicki.

[pwhodges]

OK, so Faye has got Marten re-evaluating his actions, and his life, even, which is probably a good thing.  

However, the logic is pretty screwed.  Yes, his present life is consequent on his leaving California to follow Vicky; but that is, in scientific terms, the outcome of an uncontrolled experiment - there is no way to know how his life would have gone if he had stayed, or returned when she dumped him, or if he hadn't ogled Faye that day in the bar, or if she hadn't broken her glasses...

After all, for any of us, our present life is the result of the bad things that have happened to us, large and small, as well as the good ones - so in the end how can we even decide which were which?  We are the result of the totality of our experience, not of any one or even a thousand parts of it, and Faye is correct in saying that the best thing we can do is value the result.

[Blackjoker]

Faye deftly changed the subject before it could take root, but Marten's "I've tried before" might not necessarily have been a reference to Vicki.

True. Though I do think that there is also kind of another problem here. Waaay back around the time when his mother visited post breakup I observed that Marten might be as timid as he is in part because any time that he really does try to seize his destiny it seems to blow up in his face or at least fail. Marten talks himself up to quitting a job that was depressing him, he arrives to find out that he was fired and has no real options in terms of unemployment or pension. When Dora violated Martens privacy despite him all but falling to his knees to beg that she not do it, he calls her out on it and she insults him, storms out, and then breaks up with him deciding that it's better for her to be insecure and selfish than it is to pursue a mature relationship. When Martens mother browbeat, humiliated, lied to him, etc. when he was at a low point he finally had enough and told her off, only to have her tear viciously into him in front of friends, force HIM to apologize to her and to them, with neither of them standing up for him by the way (real nice friends there). Hell, Marten risked a lot to move across the country and it ended with head games and lonliness. Oh, and when Marten mentioned the idea of pursuing goals to a barber, the barber decided to give him the most creepy example of goal and fulfillment ever. I'm not saying that Marten bears no responsibility for the rut he's in. But I am saying that there is something to be said for being almost conditioned into inactivity and conflict avoidance when every time you DO stand up for yourself everyone else turns against you, even people who claim to be friends.

Faye does make a decent point, what Marten did was petty, understandable, but petty. The idea that he's wasting his life might be simply that he isn't trying to do anything new or interesting, he sees himself in a rut but doesn't seem willing to leave it. The issue I have though is that each time something like this happens Marten tends to be the injured party, if he is the bigger man it doesn't tend to help him much and when he isn't he gets yelled at.

[Carl-E]

OK, so Faye has got Marten re-evaluating his actions, and his life, even, which is probably a good thing. 

However, the logic is pretty screwed.  Yes, his present life is consequent on his leaving California to follow Vicky; but that is, in scientific terms, the outcome of an uncontrolled experiment - there is no way to know how his life would have gone if he had stayed, or returned when she dumped him, or if he hadn't ogled Faye that day in the bar, or if she hadn't broken her glasses...

After all, for any of us, our present life is the result of the bad things that have happened to us, large and small, as well as the good ones - so in the end how can we even decide which were which?  We are the result of the totality of our experience, not of any one or even a thousand parts of it, and Faye is correct in saying that the best thing we can do is value the result.

I agree, Faye's fallen victim to the fallacy of the popular notion of the butterfly effect, that one decision triggers a chain of events that lead into the future, rather than a whole branching tree of decisions and alternative outcomes.  Who's to say that staying in CA wouldn't have led to a (completely different and) better life for him?  Or that some other chain of events wouldn't have led him to where he is right now? 

Dicey things, alternate realities.