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What would YOU expect in ECT-101's first class cabin?

Personal video screens.
- 10 (5%)
Lay-flat seats.
- 11 (5.4%)
Mini wet-bar.
- 9 (4.5%)
Wi-Fi/Internet Connection.
- 22 (10.9%)
Great Food.
- 7 (3.5%)
Wait, this flight will last what, 30 minutes?
- 27 (13.4%)
Barf bags.
- 11 (5.4%)
COOKIES!
- 2 (1%)
WAFFLES!
- 12 (5.9%)
Emergency EVA suits.
- 18 (8.9%)
Space Toilets.
- 10 (5%)
Space Sleeping Bags.
- 1 (0.5%)
Space Pillows.
- 4 (2%)
Space Space!
- 6 (3%)
Tethers for Null-G "bumps".
- 7 (3.5%)
Duct Tape for AnthroPC's.
- 13 (6.4%)
Richard Branson sitting next to you.
- 8 (4%)
Winslow sitting next to you.
- 5 (2.5%)
Something COMPLETELY Different.
- 10 (5%)
Gravity Dampeners.
- 9 (4.5%)

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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #150 on: 25 Jan 2012, 09:59 »

I think you mean stimulated? 



Actually, I hope you don't...

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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #151 on: 25 Jan 2012, 10:22 »

This doesn't quite hang together, but I'll try, anything other than admit that it was just a funny joke.

Accurately rendering fabric is CPU-intensive. What if the holo-pilot were in an optimized mode where he only expected to be seen from the waist up and skipped the CPU cycles for rendering pants?

This is plausible.  It's like those jokes about TV newscasters not wearing pants because you never see under the desk.
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #152 on: 25 Jan 2012, 10:26 »

Holographic avatar? Did anyone see Resident Evil? (who am I kidding, you've all seen it) : "you're all going to die down here!"

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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #153 on: 25 Jan 2012, 11:50 »

Incidentally, like netizen, the word is older than the web - it is not a recent coinage.
I don't get it...did it used to refer to tennis or basketball (or any sport involving nets?)
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #154 on: 25 Jan 2012, 12:07 »

I had assumed he meant it referred to networks of people, not computers.
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #155 on: 25 Jan 2012, 13:18 »

"Netiquette" is a perfectly cromulent word.

It goes back at least to the days of Usenet, well before Sir Tim Berners-Lee even thought of the Web.

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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #156 on: 25 Jan 2012, 13:24 »

...why would an AI even NEED that equipment?  :psyduck:

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I actually got a PM from someone who wanted to say that but was sure it would be inappropriate to post it.

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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #157 on: 25 Jan 2012, 13:42 »

"Netiquette" is a perfectly cromulent word.
I'm not saying it's not or that it's new, it just irks me for some reason.  It's weird, I enjoy some portmanteaus, and others just bug me.
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #158 on: 25 Jan 2012, 14:27 »

...why would an AI even NEED that equipment?  :psyduck:

Docking.

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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #159 on: 25 Jan 2012, 15:07 »

Incidentally, like netizen, the word is older than the web - it is not a recent coinage.
I don't get it...did it used to refer to tennis or basketball (or any sport involving nets?)

No, just referring to the Internet - but that went back way before the Worldwide Web emerged as one of its key applications.  I was already using the Internet - email, usenet, ftp, archie (yes!) - before the first publicly available browsers appeared (they were Mosaic and Cello).
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #160 on: 25 Jan 2012, 15:16 »

The OED traces "netiquette" to 1982.
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #161 on: 25 Jan 2012, 15:35 »

Ah, the days of Mosaic and Lynx and waiting five minutes for the one or two useful pages to load. Like some page at Stanford.edu that had a "guide to the web".
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #162 on: 25 Jan 2012, 15:42 »

I guess I always forget that "Internet" and "the Web" aren't synonymous.
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #163 on: 25 Jan 2012, 17:07 »

So I guess no-one else thought the AI looked a lot like Marten? That was my first thought, and wondering why that would be (Hanelore's doing, no doubt...).

My second was even worse. (Namely, "why isn't he better hung?")

Accurately rendering fabric is CPU-intensive. What if the holo-pilot were in an optimized mode where he only expected to be seen from the waist up and skipped the CPU cycles for rendering pants?
Then why render the bottom half at all? Or is that why it doesn't quite hang together?
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #164 on: 25 Jan 2012, 17:18 »

The OED traces "netiquette" to 1982.

I read that as Netrunner.
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #165 on: 25 Jan 2012, 18:52 »

So I guess no-one else thought the AI looked a lot like Marten? That was my first thought, and wondering why that would be (Hanelore's doing, no doubt...).

I thought he looked like a character we'd seen before in the comic, I first thought of Clinton but that's not him either.
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« Reply #166 on: 25 Jan 2012, 19:10 »

Then why render the bottom half at all? Or is that why it doesn't quite hang together?

Yes, that's the key flaw in my attempt at explaining away a joke. It's hard to make up a good reason why the rendering from the waist down wouldn't be either always on or always off.
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« Reply #167 on: 25 Jan 2012, 21:31 »

Aww, he knew her favorite cause of death.
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #168 on: 25 Jan 2012, 21:37 »

I'm not sure whether she's a cutey or a creeper.  Maybe both.
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #169 on: 25 Jan 2012, 22:06 »

Huh.  I didn't notice before, but this shuttle is clearly built for commercial flights, isn't it?
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #170 on: 25 Jan 2012, 22:07 »

So I guess no-one else thought the AI looked a lot like Marten? That was my first thought, and wondering why that would be (Hanelore's doing, no doubt...).

I thought he looked like a character we'd seen before in the comic, I first thought of Clinton but that's not him either.

He looks vaguely like the robot boyfriend Hanner's dad sent her way back, though Jeph's drawing has since improved from that stretch of comics.

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1012
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #171 on: 25 Jan 2012, 22:12 »

I. Love. Hanners.

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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #172 on: 25 Jan 2012, 23:05 »

He looks vaguely like the robot boyfriend Hanner's dad sent her way back, though Jeph's drawing has since improved from that stretch of comics.
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1012
That reminds me... we haven't seen Winslow in QUITE a while... wouldn't he come with on something like this?

And I love the thought that for a holo-projection to lean on something casually, an unbelievable array of mathematic equasions has to be run through the tech first, kind of rendering the term "casual" really incongruous.  :-D


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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #173 on: 25 Jan 2012, 23:21 »

so, is this the first time hannelore has had to deal with someone more nervous than she is? it would amuse me if up in space she was the calm and collected one, while marten was the nervous wreak afraid of everything.
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #174 on: 25 Jan 2012, 23:27 »

More nervous? No, but she has been the pillar of strength during a Marigold depressive episode.

This is the first time we've seen Hannelore with home court advantage. This is going to be interesting!
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #175 on: 26 Jan 2012, 01:05 »

Am I the only one who's thinking of Iain M. Banks' Culture novels when I see autonomous ships with holographic avatars?

I wonder what this ship's name is?  If it's had the weapons removed, that could make it a VFP, so perhaps "If you catch me, you can have me" would work. ;)
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #176 on: 26 Jan 2012, 01:53 »

Andromeda Ascendant, the starship with the fanservice AI avatar -- available in both hologram and droid form, if I recall correctly.

Also, assuming you don't have a Columbia-style breakup, I doubt you'd even get a fraction of a second. And if I'd just had an adventure, or even a fairly interesting time, in space -- I don't think I'd mind going that way, either. Especially in a Boeing Business Class seat.
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #177 on: 26 Jan 2012, 02:14 »

Huh.  I didn't notice before, but this shuttle is clearly built for commercial flights, isn't it?
It's pretty large and well-appointed isn't it? If it's not commercial, Ellicott-Chatham must have a large staff on the High Frontier, and find it cost-effective to pamper them. The fancy seats might, of course, be there to cushion the acceleration, or seal themselves into escape-pods in the event of depressurisation, making space-suits unnecessary, or... I need an hand-waving smiley...

And Hannelore... "You're not NERVOUS are you?" If it were anyone else, I'd suspect she was winding Marten up.
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #178 on: 26 Jan 2012, 04:22 »

Ah, the days of Mosaic and Lynx and waiting five minutes for the one or two useful pages to load. Like some page at Stanford.edu that had a "guide to the web".
What kind of yahoo would have something like that?   :lol:
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #179 on: 26 Jan 2012, 04:22 »

Although I realize that Marty's being just a little sarcastic, I prefer Tyrion's response to a favourite way to go.
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #180 on: 26 Jan 2012, 04:33 »

Ok so the holographic eyes are really creeping me out.

 It seems to only be able to create its avatar in different shades of blue, so then why are the eyes white? It doesn't make any sense, unless it elimintates all of its head behind its eyes (assuming of course that it is in 3d
and not just a flat projection)  and lets you see the white of the ship as its pupils, and that doesn't even make sense because we are seeing the whites of the eyes and so none of the characters would be able to.

The only solution, Spaceship (and by extension all A.I.s) know they are in a comic and are letting us see things! Brilliant!
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« Reply #181 on: 26 Jan 2012, 04:47 »

Also, assuming you don't have a Columbia-style breakup, I doubt you'd even get a fraction of a second.

I dunno.  Unless the burn-through was right in front of your face you'd more likely die from lack of air than too much heat, so several seconds is more likely.  Since most of the heat of re-entry is dumped into the underside and leading edges of the lifting body the odds are burn-through wouldn't happen in the passenger cabin, so I'd say the ship has the right estimate.
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #182 on: 26 Jan 2012, 06:22 »

This doesn't quite hang together, but I'll try, anything other than admit that it was just a funny joke.

Accurately rendering fabric is CPU-intensive. What if the holo-pilot were in an optimized mode where he only expected to be seen from the waist up and skipped the CPU cycles for rendering pants?

This is plausible.  It's like those jokes about TV newscasters not wearing pants because you never see under the desk.
According to the Far Side, the truth is much worse. The desks aren't there so they can sit there without pants but to hide the fact that the newscasters are hideous aliens with tentacles instead of legs.
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #183 on: 26 Jan 2012, 06:44 »

Huh.  I didn't notice before, but this shuttle is clearly built for commercial flights, isn't it?

Well, occasionally he does have to have the rest of the board of directors of ECT come up to the station, so...
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #184 on: 26 Jan 2012, 06:48 »

Huh.  I didn't notice before, but this shuttle is clearly built for commercial flights, isn't it?

An inventor can save a lot of trouble by using off-the-shelf parts for stuff that doesn't matter.

Also, a tweet from Jeph:

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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #185 on: 26 Jan 2012, 06:53 »

Ah, the days of Mosaic and Lynx and waiting five minutes for the one or two useful pages to load. Like some page at Stanford.edu that had a "guide to the web".
What kind of yahoo would have something like that?   :lol:

Someone who wanted yet another highly officious oracle.
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #186 on: 26 Jan 2012, 08:00 »

Also, a tweet from Jeph:

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Just got an email from an interior-parts designer for Boeing, thanking me for using their 777 first-class seats in the comic :3

I thought they looked a lot like the photo Jeph tweeted of the seats on his flight to NZ. https://twitter.com/#!/jephjacques/status/154797932485414912
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #187 on: 26 Jan 2012, 08:03 »

I'm thinking after Marten's hard time recently he's just going to end up space-crazy and murder everyone.

Everyone will just be surprised it wasn't Hanners.

(That's some crazy awesome plane seat.)
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #188 on: 26 Jan 2012, 09:11 »

Jeph flew first class to Australia / NZ?  Damn skippy. 

If Spaceship has enough RAM to run a holograph with body language (leaning on a seat, making gestures) then it damn well had enough memory to render pants the first time. I call shenanigans. There can be only one explanation: it was FLIRTING.   

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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #189 on: 26 Jan 2012, 09:18 »

Also, assuming you don't have a Columbia-style breakup, I doubt you'd even get a fraction of a second.

I dunno.  Unless the burn-through was right in front of your face you'd more likely die from lack of air than too much heat, so several seconds is more likely.  Since most of the heat of re-entry is dumped into the underside and leading edges of the lifting body the odds are burn-through wouldn't happen in the passenger cabin, so I'd say the ship has the right estimate.


We've all negleted the delay between when the catostrophic failure occurs and actually realizing that you are feeling terror.

The idea of "You'll never know what killed you" is probably a little closer.
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #190 on: 26 Jan 2012, 09:21 »

(no no that's not shipping put down the banhammer put it down please)

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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #191 on: 26 Jan 2012, 09:47 »

A Birthday Party at Hannerdad's Space Station! What WILL we see?

Defense satellites. LOTS of Defense Satellites.    - 28 (9.3%)
The 21st Century version of Castle Heterodyne. (Google it.)    - 21 (7%)
The mandatory "view of earth" panel.    - 64 (21.3%)
2001: An OCD Odyssey    - 35 (11.7%)

Babylon 2 3/4ths.    - 6 (2%)
Someplace a little smaller than the ISS.    - 6 (2%)
PSYCHE! It's actually a deserted island in the middle of the Pacific.    - 6 (2%)
Marigold will mess something up.    - 30 (10%)
All the robots look like Pintsize.    - 6 (2%)
All the robots ARE Pintsize.    - 11 (3.7%)
Richard Branson.    - 9 (3%)
We never see Hannerdad's face.    - 48 (16%)
Waffles don't taste as good in space.    - 3 (1%)
Cookies do, though.    - 4 (1.3%)
Mandatory "Something completely different" option.    - 21 (7%)
Holographic WHAT?    - 2 (0.7%)

Total Voters: 119
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #192 on: 26 Jan 2012, 09:54 »

If the AI's name is Ted Stryker, you're in good hands   :-D

Definitely a nice setup in the seating Dept.  Nothing like being comfortable while you're being squished backwards at Mach 3
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #193 on: 26 Jan 2012, 09:54 »

I had to change the poll to something... well, what would YOU expect in First Class on HannerDad Aerospaceways?
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #194 on: 26 Jan 2012, 11:22 »

Surprised to see that I was the only one so far who voted for great food. Maybe I'm the only on that hates airplane food so I expect that they have at least something ok/good. :P
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #195 on: 26 Jan 2012, 11:30 »

I hope Marten gets the souvenir T-shirt. He should find it helpful.
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #196 on: 26 Jan 2012, 11:39 »

Surprised to see that I was the only one so far who voted for great food.
Not true.  There are a few votes for waffles.
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #197 on: 26 Jan 2012, 13:06 »

Has to be Richard Branson sitting next to you. I assume he will be at the party.
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #198 on: 26 Jan 2012, 13:35 »

Why am I hearing this in my head? :-D
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Re: WCDT 2106-2110 (January 23-27, 2012) - QC IN SPAAAAAACE!!!
« Reply #199 on: 26 Jan 2012, 14:40 »

More nervous? No, but she has been the pillar of strength during a Marigold depressive episode.

This is the first time we've seen Hannelore with home court advantage. This is going to be interesting!

will the home-field advantage change her behavior? will nervous little hannelore become the apotheosis of cool?
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