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Webcomic artistry and fandom research
« on: 01 May 2012, 21:23 »

Hey everyone! I'm currently writing an 8-10 page paper that may turn into the start of a future documentary on web comic fandom and I'm wondering if I can ask you all to aid me in my research here.  Basically, Questionable Content is where I started reading most of the comics I keep regular with (as well as most of the music I listen to), and these forums are pretty much a really good example of how a web comic fan base works.  With all that, would you all mind maybe answering a few questions for posterity?

1) How did you find out about Questionable Content?
2) Do you read any other web comics and which ones?
3) Why post on this forum?  Is the web comic the only reason?
4) What is the community like here?
5) Do you feel like Jeph listens to us as fans? (*ahem* do you?)
6) Is Questionable Content cool?

Thanks everyone in advance! To my knowledge there haven't been too many legit studies about web comics as a medium nor about their fanbases.  I'm writing this for a senior level class dealing with fan psychology, but I hope to turn my love of the medium into something more some day, probably a documentary some day down the line
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Re: Webcomic artistry and fandom research
« Reply #1 on: 01 May 2012, 22:04 »

Here goes:

1)  I began to read "Questionable Content" when it showed up in
    "Unshelved", around QC comic number 691
2)  I read QC, Unshelved, XKCD, Eviscerati, and Joy of Tech
3)  I started posting in response to the comic, but enjoyed most
    of the other topics as well, and I learned  lot about indie
    music.
4)  I feel like the community (right now) is a nice friendly
    place, and I enjoy hearing about everyone's thoughts on
    various topics
5)  Most, I don't think Jeph listens to us, and that's mostly a
    good thing
6)  Yes, I think QC is very cool
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Re: Webcomic artistry and fandom research
« Reply #2 on: 01 May 2012, 23:40 »

1) How did you find out about Questionable Content?
I was shown QC by an Online Friend a few years back, but didn't join the Forum for almost a couple of years after I started reading it.
2) Do you read any other web comics and which ones?
Angels2200 (But that's stalled at the moment)
Flaky Pastry
Menage a Three
Eerie Cuties
Magic Chicks
The Lounge
Collar 6
Sandra and Woo
Namer Deiter
Upheaval
PPG Doujinshi
Grim Tales
3) Why post on this forum?  Is the web comic the only reason?
Originally, it was for the Comic, but there are other interests there for me as well in the Forum
4) What is the community like here?
Not bad actually.  A bit silly at times, but I like the atmosphere and the comradery displayed here.
5) Do you feel like Jeph listens to us as fans? (*ahem* do you?)
I'd say very rarely these days.  This Forum almost drove him nuts at one stage and he threatened to close it down.  I think he pops in occasionally, but the Comic is still Jephs and will go the way he wants it, but he may take on the odd occasional idea or suggestion - IF it's a good one.
6) Is Questionable Content cool
Yes.  But then, I'm biased.    :-D
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Re: Webcomic artistry and fandom research
« Reply #3 on: 02 May 2012, 00:14 »

1) How did you find out about Questionable Content?
Randomly when I got bored of Applegeeks and PvP a long while back. I think it was through a link on some other webcomic.

2) Do you read any other web comics and which ones?
Lots.
CTRL+ALT+DEL by Tim Buckley
Looking For Group & Least I Could Do by Ryan Sohmer and Lar Desouza
Original Life by Jay Naylor
XKCD, Piled Higher and Deeper, Dumbing of Age, Adventures of Dr. McNinja, Unsounded, Penny Arcade, VG Cats, Sequential Art, Bunny, MegaTokyo, Cyanide and Happiness... and I've read through a dozen of no longer updated webcomics' archives. (best of which - I though - was FreakAngels)

3) Why post on this forum?  Is the web comic the only reason?
Getting my thoughts about the comic out of my head is just one reason.
The other is the people I don't really get to know but who make awesome jokes and are an inspiring source of trivial knowledge about ... anything really.
Plus there is NO one in any of my social circles that reads webcomics... so I'm stuck with the guys here.

4) What is the community like here?
Elitist jerks, mostly. It takes a LOT of getting used to the tone and structure. Its uncanny how much of the comic's "tone" is reflected in the community.
(What I mean is there are a lot of jokes being made that to understand them one has to know a lot of trivia about the comic and even more about f.e. modern physics....)

5) Do you feel like Jeph listens to us as fans? (*ahem* do you?)
Nope. He better not and I hope he doesn't. Where'd the fun be in that?

6) Is Questionable Content cool
Its indie. So ironically, yes. Truthfully, no. And by that I mean "who cares?". Also, waffles.
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Re: Webcomic artistry and fandom research
« Reply #4 on: 02 May 2012, 01:18 »

1) How did you find out about Questionable Content?
Not sure, really. Stumbled across it a few times, finally got hooked when the story started arcing in dramatic directions (and I noticed the art had taken a huge upward turn in quality), then archive binged a couple times. Got hooked.
2) Do you read any other web comics and which ones?
I'll go out of  my way to read Girls with Slingshots, whatever John Allison has going at the moment, Quantum Vibe, Girl Genius, Spacetrawler. I look in on Escape from Terra to see if a story is going on or if it's in Author Rant mode.
3) Why post on this forum?  Is the web comic the only reason?
This forum, whether as a result of self-policing or the mods, is the closest I've seen to what I wish Internet forums were like: Mostly good-natured discussion and disagreement with a healthy leavening of humor, and the apparent mental age is the highest I've seen. I'm actually eager to see what certain forum members have to say about this topic or that. Also, the caption contest is fun.
4) What is the community like here?
See No. 3: Community members are mostly respectful of each other's views, and a great range of knowledge and life experiences that inform their posts. The great majority of the time, it's not hard to imagine this forum (at least the 'COMIC' part of it) as a conversation among friends in a comfortable place.
5) Do you feel like Jeph listens to us as fans? (*ahem* do you?)
He'd better not. It'd ruin the comic.
6) Is Questionable Content cool?
Depends what you mean by that. If you mean "the 'right' other people like it," I don't care. If you mean, "determined to be its own thing, as best it can, without being the Ping Pong ball of the public opinion game," then yes.

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Re: Webcomic artistry and fandom research
« Reply #5 on: 02 May 2012, 02:01 »

1) How did you find out about Questionable Content?
I think I found it linked on xkcd.

2) Do you read any other web comics and which ones?
I check these ones regularly every week:
xkcd
Basic Instructions
Awkward Zombie
Aikonia
Oglaf

These ones I check once in a while and read in huge chunks:
Dinosaur Comics
StupidFox
Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal
Cyanide and Happiness
Surviving the World (Actually a photo-comic)

3) Why post on this forum?  Is the web comic the only reason?
I lurked the forum from around September 2010, around the Dora/Marten break-up storyline to see other people's thoughts on it. Joined in March 2011 because I thought the community seemed cool. I only post about the webcomic in the Weekly Comic Discussion Thread a couple of times a week, depending on the week's comics and the discussion going on. I spend a lot of time chatting in Chatter and lurking Discuss because people here are interesting and it's fun to listen to them.

4) What is the community like here?
Like I said, very interesting and fun. Very welcoming of sensible newcomers and each individual manages to be quite passionate about their viewpoints and also respectful of others. A lot are also very intelligent, as seen in the recent discussions about the mechanics of the space station. Makes for good discussion.

5) Do you feel like Jeph listens to us as fans? (*ahem* do you?)
Sort of. He definitely hears some of the louder negative ones but he knows better than to let people tell him what to do with the comic.

6) Is Questionable Content cool?
Yep.

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Re: Webcomic artistry and fandom research
« Reply #6 on: 02 May 2012, 05:38 »

Man, you all really jumped on this, haha.  This is all seriously a huge help so thanks a whole lot!
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Re: Webcomic artistry and fandom research
« Reply #7 on: 02 May 2012, 08:14 »

1) How did you find out about Questionable Content?

Can't truly remember.  It might have been when I was googling John Cage, and the comic where Marten mentions him came up; or some other way, but that comic got me hooked.

2) Do you read any other web comics and which ones?

Dilbert
Dresden Codak
Freefall
Misfile
Penny Arcade
Scandinavia and the World
So Far Apart (and previously Anders loves Maria; I bought an original page of that)
XKCD

3) Why post on this forum?  Is the web comic the only reason?

Originally the comic, but I quickly moved on to join what was then a separate community in the other parts (most of whom have now moved to Pocket Jury, which I also visit still); I was interested in the views of people from very different backgrounds from my usual haunts.  I joined the forum exactly four years ago, but I can't remember why in particular, other than at the time the forum link was in the main top menu and so very obvious.

4) What is the community like here?

Much as I would like it to be ;-) - varied, intelligent and respectful, but I hope not too inhibited.

5) Do you feel like Jeph listens to us as fans? (*ahem* do you?)

I know he doesn't listen to the forum.

6) Is Questionable Content cool?

What is "cool"?
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Re: Webcomic artistry and fandom research
« Reply #8 on: 02 May 2012, 08:48 »

1) How did you find out about Questionable Content
Don't remember probably from mention in Girls With Slingshots.

2) Do you read any other web comics and which ones?
Too many (from memory, as my comic bookmarks aren't on this machine)
Order of the Stick
Girl Genius
GWS
Least I Could Do, Gutters, Looking For Group
Irregular Webcomic, Darth & Droids, Square Root of Minus Garfield
Menage a Trois
Eerie Cuties, Magic Chicks
Oglaf
Punch an Pie (formerly Queen of Wands and Striptease)
The Wotch
Exiern
Quiltbag (formerly Penny and Aggie)
XKCD
El Goonish Shive
Blade Bunny
Weregeek
SailorSun, I Dream of a Jeanie Bottle
Ginger's Bread
Bloomin' Faeries
Zebra Girl
Evil Diva
Dork Tower

And who knows how many that have completed and I have read.

3) Why post on this forum?  Is the web comic the only reason?
I'm a forum junky. I check out all forums to see if they are interesting.

4) What is the community like here?
This is one of the oases of friendly talk on the Internet.

5) Do you feel like Jeph listens to us as fans? (*ahem* do you?)
Why should he? Only a self-entitled moron would expect or desire that.

6) Is Questionable Content cool?
It's a webcomic. It doesn't get geekier than that. No.
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Re: Webcomic artistry and fandom research
« Reply #9 on: 02 May 2012, 09:17 »

1) How did you find out about Questionable Content?

A friend of mine had the Evolution Kills shirt on one day and I googled it on a whim.

2) Do you read any other web comics and which ones?

The Adventures of Dr. McNinja, SMBC, xkcd, and Oglaf every update.  One or two others that are defunct now.

3) Why post on this forum?  Is the web comic the only reason?

I only read the QC Discussion forum and lurked for about 2 years before I started posting for the ridiculous drama threads (especially after the Dora/Marten meltdown.)  If I stopped reading QC I probably wouldn't lurk or post what little I do.

4) What is the community like here?

Obsessive in a good way, helpful almost always.  The rancor has dropped off almost completely compared with a year or two ago, but some of the fun back and forth arguing has gone as well.  So less lively than most forums I visit but also much less soul-crushing.

5) Do you feel like Jeph listens to us as fans? (*ahem* do you?)

No, and that's good.  Even here where things are almost always positive, we analyze and dissect things so much we're getting down into the quarks and left behind the humor carrying bits awhile ago. 

6) Is Questionable Content cool?

It's post-cool.
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Re: Webcomic artistry and fandom research
« Reply #10 on: 02 May 2012, 11:23 »

1)  I found QC by following a link from XKCD, which my college roommate told me about.

2)  XKCD, Wasted Talent, Applegeeks, and the occasional random other comics.

3)  Well, for the most part, I post here to discuss the comic, but there are other topics to participate in that I read and post to.

4)  The community here is good, they definitely have trolls on a short leash here, which is good. :-D

5)  I don't really know if he does, but considering how hard he works to put up these comics on a daily basis, I think it would be selfish to require that of him.

6)  I don't think I could use cool to describe QC.  Such would be an understatement.
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Re: Webcomic artistry and fandom research
« Reply #11 on: 02 May 2012, 14:46 »


1) How did you find out about Questionable Content? To be honest I do not recall how i found it but probably from another web comic

2) Do you read any other web comics and which ones? oh yes. misfile, yet another fantasy gamer comic, goblins, npc comic, daily quests

3) Why post on this forum?  Is the web comic the only reason? It is the main reason but I do it to kill time at times

4) What is the community like here? To new to really think about that

5) Do you feel like Jeph listens to us as fans? (*ahem* do you?) To new to really think about that since i started just before the station tried to take hanners on a date of sorts

6) Is Questionable Content cool? oh yes. i personally am not big on the music aspect but the characters make it a really enjoyable comic. i like hanners and marigold the most. probably because i relate to them the most just in different ways.
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Re: Webcomic artistry and fandom research
« Reply #12 on: 02 May 2012, 18:01 »

1) How did you find out about Questionable Content?
It was talked about in another webcomic forum that I frequent (Wapsi Square over at the old Blank Label Comics forums). It was roughly about the time that Cosette was introduced to the cast. I did an archive binge and have been hooked ever since.

2) Do you read any other web comics and which ones?
A LOT. Let's see:
  • Agnus Day
  • Atomic Laundry by Armando Valenzuela
  • Candi Comics by Starline Hodge
  • Dork Tower by John Kovalic
  • The Dreamland Chronicles by Scott Christian Sava
  • Evil Inc. by Brad Guigar
  • Girl Genius by Phil & Kaja Foglio
  • Girls With Slingshots by Danielle Corsetto
  • Pibgorn by Brooke McEldowney
  • PvPonline.com by Scott Kurtz
  • Real Life Comics - The Online Comic by Greg Dean
  • Sequential Art by Phillip M. Jackson
  • Sheldon Comics by Dave Kellett
  • DRIVE by Dave Kellett
  • Starslip by Kris Straub
  • Times Like This by Thomas Overbeck
  • Wapsi Square by Paul Taylor
  • The Whiteboard (courtesy of Doc's Paintball Shop)
  • XKCD by Randall Munroe

3) Why post on this forum?  Is the web comic the only reason?
Pretty much just for the webcomic. My occasional forays into Discuss and such haven't gone well at times.

4) What is the community like here?
Friendly, generally. And we all get the vibe that Jeph is trying to get over in his strips.

5) Do you feel like Jeph listens to us as fans? (*ahem* do you?)
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Sometimes I think he would like nothing more than to shut down these forums, but then again I also think he realizes it's a necessary evil. And that if he did shut down the forums, he'd have to shut down his twitter feed too.

6) Is Questionable Content cool?
"Cool" is such a 1970's word. "Hip and happening" would be more appropriate. "Downright silly" fits at times.
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Re: Webcomic artistry and fandom research
« Reply #13 on: 02 May 2012, 22:52 »

1) How did you find out about Questionable Content?
TVTropes. Specifically, the page about "Unsound effects", which I got to from Irregular Webcomic #1949. More specifically, SCORN!
2) Do you read any other web comics and which ones?
XKCD
Order of the Stick
Penny Arcade
Darths & Droids
A Softer World
Irregular Webcomic
Oglaf
Bug
The Trenches
Diesel Sweeties
Leftover Soup
Three Word Phrase
Crunchy Crunchy Biscuits
Girls With Slingshots
is my current "check constantly" list, I dip into others when people link them on Fb, or in mails, or whereever.
3) Why post on this forum?  Is the web comic the only reason?
When the urge to express myself overwhelms my usual sound policy of letting the grown-ups discuss things more intelligently than I can myself.
Yes, the webcomic is the only reason.
4) What is the community like here?
Remarkably un-internet like. In the very best possible way. This is, as a by product, somewhat intimidating, but that's my problem, not theirs.
5) Do you feel like Jeph listens to us as fans? (*ahem* do you?)
I *feel* like he possibly does, subconsiously, and I *feel* like it probably bugs him when he notices.
6) Is Questionable Content cool?
I think I'll go with no, but I would not consider myself in any way a reliable arbiter of "cool".
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Re: Webcomic artistry and fandom research
« Reply #14 on: 03 May 2012, 04:27 »

1) How did you find out about Questionable Content?
I can't recall, honestly. But in all probability it was via a link from another webcomic.

2) Do you read any other web comics and which ones?
Oglaf, SMBC (and anything Zach Weiner does), xkcd, Cyanide & Happiness, Scandinavia and the World, Devilbear, Ornery Boy, Dinosaur Comics, Ends 'n' Means.

3) Why post on this forum?  Is the web comic the only reason?
Therapy for post-archive-binge-depression. And it's interesting to see what other people think of the comic.
Also, like many forums, it's a nice place to meet and hang out with cool, like-minded people.

4) What is the community like here?
Very active and lively discussion, on matters both on-topic and off, and generally very welcoming. One think I really like about this community is that there are many "newbies" but very few "n00bs". Some of the most insightful and intelligent comments I've seen here have been first posts or from users with very few posts. That's rare in my online experience. Unlike some sites, post count is just a number here, and everyone's contribution is viewed equally.

5) Do you feel like Jeph listens to us as fans? (*ahem* do you?)
As he is the artist, I don't think he's under any obligation to listen to the fans in terms of what they want to happen or how they think the comic should be. But he is not detached from his fanbase, and does interact via twitter and tumblr, so he isn't deaf to their feedback and questions.

6) Is Questionable Content cool?
Yes.
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Re: Webcomic artistry and fandom research
« Reply #15 on: 03 May 2012, 07:07 »

I've often thought webcomics ad the worlds surroudig them would make for interesting research - there are probably several Ph.D. Theses in fields from lit to psychology in here...

1) How did you find out about Questionable Content?

Linked from XKCD nearly three years ago.  At the time, XKCD was one of the only comics I read.

Funny story (that I enjoy telling too much) - I had followed that link several times, and each time, I went back to the beginning of the strip.  But I just couldn't get into it.  Then, I linked to a very compelling page (in all honesty, I completely forgot which one, though I think it may have been part of the Faye/Sven arc... and started reading the comic backwards from that point.  It was fascinating, watching well-developed characters interact with each other, and seeing the story... not unfold, re-fold?  De-fold?  Whatever you want to call it, seeing where each character was coming from and what led to the previous/next page, was an exercise in fascination.  I think I worked my way backwards to the point where Hanners was introduced, then finally went back to the beginning and plowed through.

2) Do you read any other web comics and which ones?

I'm afraid it started to avalanche.  Here's the current list;

QC
girls with slingshots
Shortpacked
dumbing of age
out there
red string
XKCD
Sam and fuzzy
Gunnerkreig Court
guilded age
sorcery 101
QUILTBAG (formerly Penny and Aggie, which is now defunct)
tweep
freefall
octopus pie
atomic laundromat
spinnerette
False Positive
Deep Fried (currently aka Weapon Brown)
Sister Claire
Simply Sarah
The Princess
Jeffbot
Subculture
Heliothoumic(defunct, currently set for relaunch)
d e a d . w i n t e r (the only other forum I participate in)
finder's keepers
something positive
Templar, AZ
Love me nice (stalled...)
Darwin Carmichael is going to hell
Namesake (THIS ONE!! I can't recommend it enough!!)
Planet Karen (pretty much dead after a brief revival)
Strawberry Death Cake (I don't know why I still read it, it's pretty gawdawful)
Doomsday, my dear
Dresden Codak

the NSFW contingent;
Chimneyspeak
Oglaf
Curvy
Chester 5000

There are several others that have either died or I've stopped reading - LICD (bored), Yu+Me Dream (over), Flipside (terrible), White Noise (dying and/or slow), Queen of Wands (dead), Pennie & Aggie (became QUILTBAG, above), Heliothaumic (Died, became The Water Clock, which died, now Heliothaumic is rebooting) and others I can't recall...

Fuck, that's a lot. 

3) Why post on this forum?  Is the web comic the only reason?

Originally, yes.  I really enjoyed getting into the characters heads, and there was a small contingent at the time who enjoyed the pop psychology of character analysis.  Thing is, most several of us were educated enough to know how to construct an argument, cite sources, etc. and just trample the shouters and ignore the trolls.  Eventually, the mods stepped in, and the place is cleaner, brighter, and there are fewer muggings...

Now, it's story time again.  Sorry about this, but it's personal...

About three years ago, I was working at a school far from home (I teach), so I had an apartment and commuted home on the weekends.  The forum kinda replaced a social circle that I didn't have.  Then, my younger daughter became deathly ill with a mystery disease.  I posted some about it and discovered the other sections of the forum (until then I had strictly been in the comic section, the other parts were too scary/elitist). 

The people here helped me get through some of the most difficult times of my life - illness, job loss, other things - they helped me cope.  Several of them aren't here now, but for a while, became good (virtual) friends.  It's as easy to be a friend to another online as it is to be a troll, and this is a friendly place. 

4) What is the community like here?

It's a friendly place.  Argumentative at times, loud, opinionated, but rarely (if ever) mean. 

5) Do you feel like Jeph listens to us as fans? (*ahem* do you?)

You won't get an answer from him - he comes in on rare occasions, but usually only when something dramatic happens to get a check on reactions (OK, that's just my take on it, but I think he mostly lurks when he's getting feedback from other sources to see what this source thinks.  Those are the only times we've seen him post, and I think he lurks a little more than he posts). 

But Jeph is an artist and his own man, and sensibly learned to tune out the noise.  So even if he lurks, I don't think he really "listens" in any way. 

6) Is Questionable Content cool?

Oh god no.  OK, yes.  Wait, what do you meanI teach math, I have no reliable reading on "cool"
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« Reply #16 on: 03 May 2012, 20:47 »

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Re: Webcomic artistry and fandom research
« Reply #17 on: 04 May 2012, 01:11 »

Chester sat idle for a while, then started back up, and is now idle again - a lot like Planet Karen.  I never got into Punch an Pie, and Aerie (the central character) wound up in Boston as an occasional cast member of Something*Positive.  But I should have said "over", not "dead", because there was a clear ending to the strip. 


See?  Even in a simple informational thread, we can find something to argue about...
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« Reply #18 on: 04 May 2012, 01:17 »

See?  Even in a simple informational thread, we can find something to argue about...


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« Reply #19 on: 04 May 2012, 01:20 »

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« Reply #20 on: 04 May 2012, 01:24 »

See?  Even in a simple informational thread, we can find something to argue about...


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« Reply #21 on: 04 May 2012, 02:42 »

1) How did you find out about Questionable Content?
- Honestly can't remember. I guess I was googling for sexy comics or something..  :oops:
2) Do you read any other web comics and which ones?
- xkcd, girlswithslingshots, three word phrase, menage a 3 and I wish I could say Achewood, only it isn't really updated anymore.
3) Why post on this forum?  Is the web comic the only reason?
It's the main reason but I like some of the folks here and I especially like the openness. The comic constantly raises interesting questions and I like to read what people think. I won't necessarily write my own opinion.
4) What is the community like here?
Uh yeah, open. On the whole.
5) Do you feel like Jeph listens to us as fans? (*ahem* do you?)
I hope and wish he wouldn't because I feel it's his vision, his ideas, his creation and that's what it should be. But since he does visit the board and does Q&A:s occasionally I guess he does.
6) Is Questionable Content cool?
No it's wacky and nerdy and that's why I like it.
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Re: Webcomic artistry and fandom research
« Reply #22 on: 04 May 2012, 05:07 »

1) How did you find out about Questionable Content?
Through the link on XKCD (I remember the comic I walked in on, too: #1875)

2) Do you read any other web comics and which ones?
XKCD
Nerf This and Scout Crossing
Large Air Whales Like Silence (at the moment is on hiatus, due to various projects, but keeps the ALT comics running instead of the main story)
Legacy Control
League of Super Redundant Heroes and Two Guys and Guy
I Am ARG
Ends 'N Means
The Secret Life of a Journal Comic
Mysteries of the Arcana
Not A Villain
Raven's Dojo

3) Why post on this forum?  Is the web comic the only reason?
Pretty much the comic, and the open dialogue on people's opinions of what goes on in the strip.

4) What is the community like here?
A damn great multitude of things. Quick-witted, funny and random but above all else serious and intelligent when the time calls for it.

5) Do you feel like Jeph listens to us as fans? (*ahem* do you?)
Ultimately, it's his comic. He may or may not take a bit of time to see what people think, but ultimately where the story goes is up to him.

6) Is Questionable Content cool?
It's interesting, it's upfront, and it handles real-world issues while still maintaining a subtle, cynical humour. That's pretty cool to me.
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Re: Webcomic artistry and fandom research
« Reply #23 on: 04 May 2012, 06:34 »

I never got into Punch an Pie
Did you ever try Striptease (also over)? Punch an Pie is drawn/co-written by that strips creator. Oddly, he draws the comic in Queen of Wands style though his old strip was a different art style. Also, they don't miss an update. I find that most compelling in a webcomic.

And like most strips, PaP archive binges well.
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« Reply #24 on: 04 May 2012, 21:59 »

Wow, a lot of people followed the link from XKCD.  What does it mean?
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« Reply #25 on: 05 May 2012, 09:41 »

It means we have a lot of nerds and geeks in here. 

Which explains all the arguments about the space station...



Hell, at least two of us are professional mathematicians, and in a community this small, that's pretty unusual!
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« Reply #26 on: 05 May 2012, 11:17 »

Not to mention a physicist or two.
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« Reply #27 on: 05 May 2012, 12:11 »

1) How did you find out about Questionable Content?

I found out about it from going through the link from XKCD. I found out about it much later than most of the people on this forum (the first one I saw was # 2002).

2) Do you read any other web comics and which ones?

XKCD, Times Like This, Piled Higher and Deeper, Wasted Talent. I used to read User Friendly before it stopped updating.

3) Why post on this forum?  Is the web comic the only reason?

For a while after I started reading QC, I never went to the forum. After reading through the whole archive of QC and seeing the early comics and the evolution of Jeph's art, I decided to give a try to an idea I had for a comic. My first post here was in the "Plug your comic" thread, but I ended up sticking around and reading (and occasionally posting in) the QC comic discussion threads.

4) What is the community like here?

I don't know if I've really been here long enough to get a good feel of how the community works. (And in reference to the post above, I'm a grad student in physics, I guess that maybe counts as being a physicist...)

5) Do you feel like Jeph listens to us as fans? (*ahem* do you?)

No.

6) Is Questionable Content cool?

I don't know about cool (I'm probably a bad judge of that), but apparently it's popular enough that I've seen undergrads here wearing QC t-shirts.
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« Reply #28 on: 05 May 2012, 16:22 »

Oh!  Yeah, I had a student a couple of years ago who wore an LGBTerrific! shirt.  I had to ask if he know the strip, or if someone had just gotten him the shirt. 

He followed the comic, which I counted as a win. 


One of my irrational fears is that a student of mine will figure out it's me on this forum.  I just like keeping them out of my private life... and yes, I consider this my private life! 
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« Reply #29 on: 05 May 2012, 16:43 »

1) How did you find out about Questionable Content?
Probably from the Comics I Don't Understand site.
2) Do you read any other web comics and which ones?
Via CIDU, I read Cyanide and Happiness.
3) Why post on this forum?  Is the web comic the only reason?
The forum often adds context to the comic. But the multiplicity of threads and interests of members makes it almost a different universe than the QCverse. I enjoy the discourse and the opportunity to add to it.
4) What is the community like here?
Intelligent, caring and sharing.
5) Do you feel like Jeph listens to us as fans? (*ahem* do you?)
I think he hears us. I don't know if he acts on what he hears. That doesn't matter to me. I hope it pleases him that he not only has created a QCverse with many fans, but a social universe with a lot of participants. It certainly impresses me.
6) Is Questionable Content cool?
Whatever that means; I guess it is.
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Re: Webcomic artistry and fandom research
« Reply #30 on: 05 May 2012, 18:28 »


1) How did you find out about Questionable Content?
Quick answer: from mentions at Shortpacked! Long answer: I was in a Live Journal group that snarked at For Better or for Worse. Willis's classic take on FBOFW got me reading his work, although I never really got into the earlier Roomies/Walky stuff (sorry, Dave, I do like Dumbing of Age, though). When Willis would mention another comic, I'd check it out; most didn't appeal to me. Eventually I hit on QC and liked the characters.

2) Do you read any other web comics and which ones?
SP! and DOA as mentioned above, along with Two Lumps (we used to have a Russian Blue mix), XKCS, Doghouse, Maximumble/The Book of Biff, Sinfest and Treading Ground (now retired, Nate Wright is just getting going on the re-done Idle State.)

3) Why post on this forum?  Is the web comic the only reason?
Mostly after reading the archives, just to see what others thought and get a bit more background.

4) What is the community like here?
Still fairly new so I can't answer that.

5) Do you feel like Jeph listens to us as fans? (*ahem* do you?)
I think he follows general trends and knows what's going on, but wants to go his own way. Good on him for that. It's his vision and his strip.

6) Is Questionable Content cool?
87 percent of the time. I'm not a big fan of Yelling Bird but he can be funny.
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Re: Webcomic artistry and fandom research
« Reply #31 on: 06 May 2012, 22:51 »

Wow, you all are seriously awesome.  I finished the paper for the class, but I'm not really done writing down all the things I want to say about the topic, so who knows?  I'll be doing more research probably forever but until then I just wanted to say thanks.  This is like the internet working at its best pretty much.
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« Reply #32 on: 07 May 2012, 03:07 »

This is like the internet working at its best pretty much.
The admins manning the ramparts of this little web-fort are holding the trolls at bay. For now, at least.
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« Reply #33 on: 07 May 2012, 18:40 »

And farting in their general direction
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« Reply #34 on: 09 May 2012, 23:42 »

This is like the internet working at its best pretty much.
The admins manning the ramparts of this little web-fort are holding the trolls at bay. For now, at least.

One will eventually slip by the defenses and then, and then...
Tank missile!
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« Reply #35 on: 10 May 2012, 05:17 »

This is like the internet working at its best pretty much.
The admins manning the ramparts of this little web-fort are holding the trolls at bay. For now, at least.

One will eventually slip by the defenses and then, and then...
Tank missile!
Epic fail.

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« Reply #36 on: 10 May 2012, 06:51 »

Oh come on, it's not like we're completely defenseless...

Back before the mods, there was a contingent of members, a volutary militia if you will, armed with nothig but rapier wits, unyeilding rationality, and the occasional UBMEOD (Best, briefest explanation found here). 

I'm not going to call them "the good old days", but they were definitely "interesting times". 
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« Reply #37 on: 10 May 2012, 13:46 »

Oh come on, it's not like we're completely defenseless...

Back before the mods, there was a contingent of members, a volutary militia if you will, armed with nothig but rapier wits, unyeilding rationality, and the occasional UBMEOD (Best, briefest explanation found here). 

I'm not going to call them "the good old days", but they were definitely "interesting times".

Genius.  It's like it's the WMD of forums, blogs, and chatrooms.
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« Reply #38 on: 10 May 2012, 16:57 »

Those of us who weilded them were few, but ... well, no, not mighty.  Actually, pretty pitiful.  They really were useless. 
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« Reply #39 on: 10 May 2012, 21:47 »

Ah, yes. Those were the days. Men were real men, women were real women, and Useless Brooms Made Entirely Of Dicks were real Useless Brooms Made Entirely Of Dicks.

Those who walked the Path of the Dickbroom were as noble as their efforts were futile.  They're all gone now, no longer needed now that law and order (and effective moderation and clear leadership) holds sway over this once lawless (but not entirely uncivilized, I mean it was never 4chan levels of crazy around here) corner of the internet.
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« Reply #40 on: 10 May 2012, 22:39 »

Ah, yes. Those were the days. Men were real men, women were real women, and Useless Brooms Made Entirely Of Dicks were real Useless Brooms Made Entirely Of Dicks.

Those who walked the Path of the Dickbroom were as noble as their efforts were futile.  They're all gone now, no longer needed now that law and order (and effective moderation and clear leadership) holds sway over this once lawless (but not entirely uncivilized, I mean it was never 4chan levels of crazy around here) corner of the internet.

And now they are yet but stories of what once was to those of us who could only imagine what it was like to have lived... er, been registered during those days.
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« Reply #41 on: 10 May 2012, 23:55 »

Well, you could always trawl the archives...
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« Reply #42 on: 11 May 2012, 02:23 »

Oh come on, it's not like we're completely defenseless...

Back before the mods, there was a contingent of members, a volutary militia if you will, armed with nothig but rapier wits, unyeilding rationality, and the occasional UBMEOD (Best, briefest explanation found here). 

I'm not going to call them "the good old days", but they were definitely "interesting times".

What the hell.
Have I really been lurking here for like... One and a half years? Really?

I remember the UBMEOD and have actually been wondering what happened to Tergon. O.o
Sorry, but- Sudden realization of how much, and how quickly time passes by kind of freaks me out.
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« Reply #43 on: 11 May 2012, 04:01 »

And those of us who came to this world but recently can only imagine those scarcely civilized times. Are there some memorable threads that could recreate the sense of that bygone era, that someone with time on their hands could point us newbies to?
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« Reply #44 on: 11 May 2012, 04:30 »

And those of us who came to this world but recently can only imagine those scarcely civilized times. Are there some memorable threads that could recreate the sense of that bygone era, that someone with time on their hands could point us newbies to?

Oh we, could, but its muuuuuuch better if you find it for yourself.

The WCDTs for the last half of November 2010 is a good place to start.  :mrgreen:
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« Reply #45 on: 11 May 2012, 04:46 »

I thought much of that was deleted. 

Just wishful thinking, I guess...
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« Reply #46 on: 11 May 2012, 05:01 »

I can't remember, was that before or after "the breakup"?

EDIT: I just looked. It WAS the breakup... oh my.

EDIT AGAIN: ...Aaaand I just found the earliest WCDT that got locked...
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« Reply #47 on: 11 May 2012, 07:28 »

There were also threads at that time that were removed complete (some survive in a hidden chamber of horrors, as a warning to future mods - e.g "On the Carnal Relations of Marten Reed").  Also, the earlier history of the comic discussion forums was deleted as a whole when they were combined into one (formerly the weekly threads and other discussion had been in separate forums) - that was around the time that Jeph used the term "fetid sewer" to describe them.  These things happened before I was made a mod, though.
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