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The clothing mixup at the start.

4 (8.9%)

Memories of piercings past.

0 (0%)

MY PUSSY RULES!

9 (20%)

"Will Torrent For Cash"

2 (4.4%)

Supportive Parents for Tai

0 (0%)

"I don't care if you bring home a boy or a girl or whatever, those pants are RIDICULOUS."

5 (11.1%)

Catching your dad checking out your girlfriend.

0 (0%)

...He only goes for tall women! (MAYBE I'LL WEAR PLATFORMS)

7 (15.6%)

Herrell's for desert?

0 (0%)

...Uh, maybe Bubble Tea instead?

1 (2.2%)

Tai prefers Euro dubstep to "Skrillexy American Stuff"

2 (4.4%)

Right now you're just the sexy little redhead who works at the library.

0 (0%)

Fact: I apparently get super flustered when you call me sexy.

3 (6.7%)

The POW on her elbow - Nana nana nana nana nana nana nana nana BAT-MAAAANNNN!

2 (4.4%)

Em-POW-ering? (Oh god, the bad pun never occurred to her)

2 (4.4%)

Kiss and buttgrab!

7 (15.6%)

"How did we get here? Last thing I remember, we were having dinner."

1 (2.2%)

Total Members Voted: 40

[jwhouk]

So, here's your thread, boss.

[TheEvilDog]

I can see some words being said by Tai by the end of the week, and not necessarily kind words either.

Either that or Hannelore and Faye are following them, disguised as shrubbery, tiptoeing after Tai and Dora as they walk down the street (of course, Hanners' would be a highly realistic, self cleaning polymer designed by her father because its Hanners).

[cesariojpn]

By the end of the week, the duo will be doing some serious revaluation.

Or go to the Goth Club.

[FunkyTuba]

Hanners sees them from afar and has a major squeeee reaction.  Her ovaries each pop out an unhaploidized oocyte and ends up pregnant with twins.

Hey, it could happen...

[cesariojpn]

Hanners sees them from afar and has a major squeeee reaction.  Her ovaries each pop out an unhaploidized oocyte and ends up pregnant with twins.

Hey, it could happen...

Goddammit, what was Hannerdad doing?

[Renewman]

Ha! I find it funny Jeph is now addressing the very thing we were all complaining about last week with Dora not knowing anything about Tai. I'm trying my best to keep a ho-hum attitude through this current arc but the whole Tai/Dora thing comes across very kitschy and forced at least imo.

[J]

the more i look at it, the more ridiculous dora's shirt gets.

[Kugai]

Dawwwww

Cute, bwushing widdle Tai   



Dora, ya still got ot it would appear.

[Tova]

Goodness, it appears that Dora has recovered from her little slips of last week without dire consequences WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED.

Ha! I find it funny Jeph is now addressing the very thing we were all complaining about last week with Dora not knowing anything about Tai.

It would be pretty hard not to address - it's not like it's an obscure detail that Jeph hadn't though of. I'm sure he didn't bring it up today just to appease us.

[foolsguinea]

Uh, Jeph is going to fix the number at the top of the image, right? Because that was confusing.

[Method of Madness]

Yeah, I can't be the only one who saw that, hit previous hoping for a double comic and was disappointed when I found out it was just a typo.

[Soulsynger]

Wow... seems Dora wasn't as oblivious as we all thought she was...

... can someone check on Satan? I have a feeling he might be needing a VERY WARM winter coat sometime soon. °O

[Dr. ROFLPWN]

Okay, so I'm actually finding this very interesting. Curiouser and curiouser, even.

Yeah, Tai isn't having the ideal time on this date; her image of Dora as sanctified, as inviolate small-business-owning super-hot goth Muse on a pedestal, is being shattered and the dust ground into sand, absolutely. Which is an Unpleasant Discovery, certainly, but we also learned that Dora is, in fact, quietly interested.

So what matters here is how Tai reacts. If she can't handle the dissolution of her illusions about Dora, she'll have to call off the whole idea of a relationship, epic kiss or no, though I think she'll handle it humanely (and all the more heartbreaking for it.) BUT, if she can get past that, and remain interested in Dora the human who inspired the muse, then this could be in it for the long haul. Blushing at being called sexy is a good sign.

Dora, on the other hand, is kind of working the Bianchi charm, at long last. I hope she's not planning to Sven this date, have it be a sex-and-then-drop type of thing; lust is totally a good basis to start a relationship, but it's not a foundation. Then again, she wants to get to know Tai. Good news, on that front.

I'm reminded of hodges' comment, that relationships are built on misunderstanding--I think, and it's borne true in my experience, that they're often built on surviving such. If that's the case, Dora and Tai could be looking at a long, long incumbency as a couple.

Finally, good job Tai, you like the right dubstep. You are an acceptable dubstep cultist. Skrillex is a prick, fuck that gargbage.

[WAYF]

Smooth, Dora.

I feel like the quicker Tai gets over comparing herself to Marten, the better. The much, much better.

Compliment "sexy" apparently overrides insult "little", as well.
And redhead... technically neutral, probably a compliment.

Edit: Damn you homophones and homonyms! A compliment is quite different from a complement!

[Soulsynger]

Finally, good job Tai, you like the right dubstep. You are an acceptable dubstep cultist. Skrillex is a prick, fuck that gargbage.

Oh damn, missed that gem. And it is totally thus.

[Is it cold in here?]

Tai was realistic about Dora having issues, given that everybody does.

She may be idealizing Dora as a father figure, though.

[VonKleist]

hehehe, I might be warming up to old Tora.

That was kind of a weird mix of sexy and endearing! YOu know, the good kind of weird

[jwhouk]

A thought: Would it be weird if Dora WAS like Sven when it comes to girls? And Tai was her "Faye" moment?

[Akima]

Better, Dora, much better. "Little" isn't so much of an insult for girls, and it's a bit too late for Tai to object.

I know it is wrong, but there is something about Sonny Moore that makes me want to hurt him. And brostep is pretty much a sucky thing.

[VonKleist]

@Akima

Yay, for digging that one up. Never fails to make me chuckle. "Ow, my cheekth" xD

[Mr_Rose]

Oh dear. I knew which comic that was going to be before I even hovered over the link, maybe I need a break?

But since it's been brought up, is anyone else noticing the parallels between Dora's attitude then and now?

[Tova]

It's kind of interesting that Tai felt compelled to apologise for talking about something Marten might have talked about, even though it is such a big part of Tai's life.

[J]

Yeah, Tai isn't having the ideal time on this date; her image of Dora as sanctified, as inviolate small-business-owning super-hot goth Muse on a pedestal, is being shattered and the dust ground into sand, absolutely.

if i'm not mistaken, sand is typically much coarser than dust, consisting of much much larger particles. so shouldn't that be the other way around?

[TinPenguin]

I don't know what bubble tea is, but it looks like pondwater with tadpoles.

[VonKleist]

That´s probably why they mostly sell it in non-transparent containers here.

Heh. Maybe you could sell Moet with Caviar in too rich folks.

[Madmartigan]

Tai was realistic about Dora having issues, given that everybody does.

She may be idealizing Dora as a father figure, though.

Father figure?

At any rate, the foot in mouth is over so far (though Dora probably didn't realize at all what she said last strip).

Even natural with no screw ups, still looking too sisterly for me though.  Again, not sure if that will ever change.


And now that I think Dora is lying or anything, but how do strips and strips of cute little butch girl (who is not necessarily my type) go to sexy little redhead?  A kiss that suddenly changes your entire perception of a person?  Now that this needs to be discussed really.  But, it almost looking like Dora was going in to ruffle Tai's hair.  Tai AND Dora must take different meaning to hair ruffling...

[techkid]

Well, that seems to be a healthier turn...

Had to chuckle at Tai's "overheating problem" in the last panel as well (so flustered that steam started to form).

[J]

I don't know what bubble tea is, but it looks like pondwater with tadpoles.

it's a sort of fruit juice/tea concoction which may or may not contain milk. the 'bubbles' at the bottom are little spherical bits of tapioca which give the drinker something to chew on and/or shoot from the straw like a blow gun. some places offer other options besides tapioca as well, including small bits of fruit. i recommend trying it some time if you get the chance.

[Hinterfiend]

I'm waiting to see more of the other relationships.

"Yes, let's do talk about the man we both screwed over to get to this point. Me by being super insecure and neurotic through the whole relationship and now seeming to be over it all in just a matter of days. And you, his boss, who claimed to be a his friend but constantly harassed him about whether we were broken up, and once we were didn't even play it all off as jokes but rather JUMPED at the opportunity to hook up with me as SOON AS YOU WERE TOLD. Yep. his first real relationship in some time and I'm over it, but he's totally cool with us together, and aren't we just so cute in our quirky ways? We're totally not being dicks or anything." ~ Dora.

[Boxilar]

Several times folks have brought up the Faye/Sven parallels in the Dora/Tai dynamic. At this point, it's reminding me more of Marten/Dora/Faye, with Dora as Marten, Marten as Faye and Tai as Dora. The difference of course being that Marten and Dora were actually a couple and thier relationship is over. Still, Tai seems to be worrying about how she compares to Marten, either out of insecurity or a lingering sense of guilt.

It was still a cute strip, though.

[Madmartigan]

I'm waiting to see more of the other relationships.

"Yes, let's do talk about the man we both screwed over to get to this point. Me by being super insecure and neurotic through the whole relationship and now seeming to be over it all in just a matter of days. And you, his boss, who claimed to be a his friend but constantly harassed him about whether we were broken up, and once we were didn't even play it all off as jokes but rather JUMPED at the opportunity to hook up with me as SOON AS YOU WERE TOLD. Yep. his first real relationship in some time and I'm over it, but he's totally cool with us together, and aren't we just so cute in our quirky ways? We're totally not being dicks or anything." ~ Dora.

Calm down.  It has been at least a month or two QC time...

Now, did I like seeing Tai's "not even bother to hide it" I wanna bone your girlfriend moments?  Nope.  Not particularly.  That's what has pretty always rubbed me the wrong way about her.  Even joking about it, which she wasn't, isn't cool.  She made no secret about what she wanted and I guess, if you took it to the extreme, she did jump on Dora as soon as it was pretty much over with Marten.  That's just poor planning on her part.

But be real.  Marten and Dora are both pretty much over it.  Does it suck it didn't work with Marten? Yea.  But QC isn't exactly or hasn't been a mainstay for solid relationships.  At least, between characters routinely in the story.  Marten/Dora is over though.  Both are over it.  Get over it.

And no, I don't particularly see this out of left field romantic attraction for Dora all of a sudden and I've and others, have beaten that story to death ad nauseam. 

However.  It remains quite awkward for them both to be talking about Marten.  Once again, this arc just feels weird. 
But again.  Dora/Marten are over.  They aren't being dicks.  They are just incredibly strange around each other.

[Is it cold in here?]

In reality, Tai respected the relationship.

I hope Tai is not just a rebound.

[ink slinger]

Geez, that's a surprising amount of talk about the ex on the first date! Of course, they're all a part of the same social group, so I guess it would almost be weirder if Marten's name didn't come up at least once or twice. (But only almost.)

[Is it cold in here?]

The Principle of Maximum Awkwardness would require it anyway.

[Dr. ROFLPWN]

A question for the archive-savvy: has any first date in QC ever gone well? I seem to recall Angus and Faye's first date having awkwardness all around, too.

I think mentioning Marten, especially casually and not obsessively, is actually good: they acknowledge the relationship without stressing over it. If it keeps coming up, weird, but this is pretty innocent.

[DSL]

If you're talking about the date at the "little Italian place" in which F n A talked about their aspirations vs. reality, I thought that seemed like a nice little first date that strengthened any bond those two characters seemed to have. Faye's anxiety attack and the resulting underpants incident were later that night.

[jmucchiello]

Ladies, please stop talking about Marten. Thank you.

[jwhouk]

And, as proof that we have a lot of closet country music fans in here, the results of our latest poll:

Date Week Two - And the Resolution will be?
Dora and Tai in bed!    2 (4.8%)
Hugs but no sex.    9 (21.4%)
Fast forward six weeks. No one will say ANYTHING about what happened.    1 (2.4%)
Not even Dora or Tai, who have suddenly disappeared from the strip.    0 (0%)
No one even acknowledges that either of them exist.    0 (0%)
They run off to New Hampshire and get married. The End.    0 (0%)
It ends. Badly.    4 (9.5%)
A week of all the other relationships in QC (Faye/Angus, Wil/Penelope, Steve/Cosette)    7 (16.7%)
Something happens to Hannelore. We all laugh, then d'awwww about it.    3 (7.1%)
MOAR PINTSIZE!!!!!11!!!!    0 (0%)
Something happens to Marigold. We all laugh.    3 (7.1%)
Mandatory Meme Option (Waffles, Spathe Ham, Banana Smoothies, etc.)    0 (0%)
We find out why Clinton is so scared of Claire!    2 (4.8%)
I'm just here for the party, and I ain't leavin' til they throw me out.    11 (26.2%) (Gretchen Wilson approves.)

Total Members Voted: 42

[Mothykins]

Even natural with no screw ups, still looking too sisterly for me though.  Again, not sure if that will ever change.


And now that I think Dora is lying or anything, but how do strips and strips of cute little butch girl (who is not necessarily my type) go to sexy little redhead?  A kiss that suddenly changes your entire perception of a person?  Now that this needs to be discussed really.  But, it almost looking like Dora was going in to ruffle Tai's hair.  Tai AND Dora must take different meaning to hair ruffling...

Butbutbut hair ruffling is so cute~ You've gtta admit, it's absolutely adorable~ :3

"Yes, let's do talk about the man we both screwed over to get to this point. Me by being super insecure and neurotic through the whole relationship and now seeming to be over it all in just a matter of days. And you, his boss, who claimed to be a his friend but constantly harassed him about whether we were broken up, and once we were didn't even play it all off as jokes but rather JUMPED at the opportunity to hook up with me as SOON AS YOU WERE TOLD. Yep. his first real relationship in some time and I'm over it, but he's totally cool with us together, and aren't we just so cute in our quirky ways? We're totally not being dicks or anything." ~ Dora.

I'd reply with all the scathing sarcasm I could muster, but Madmartigan said it better than I ever could, and I'm not enough of an archive ninja to find a strip that shows it's been far longer than a few days.

And, as proof that we have a lot of closet country music fans in here, the results of our latest poll:

Date Week Two - And the Resolution will be?
Dora and Tai in bed!    2 (4.8%)
Hugs but no sex.    9 (21.4%)
Fast forward six weeks. No one will say ANYTHING about what happened.    1 (2.4%)
Not even Dora or Tai, who have suddenly disappeared from the strip.    0 (0%)
No one even acknowledges that either of them exist.    0 (0%)
They run off to New Hampshire and get married. The End.    0 (0%)
It ends. Badly.    4 (9.5%)
A week of all the other relationships in QC (Faye/Angus, Wil/Penelope, Steve/Cosette)    7 (16.7%)
Something happens to Hannelore. We all laugh, then d'awwww about it.    3 (7.1%)
MOAR PINTSIZE!!!!!11!!!!    0 (0%)
Something happens to Marigold. We all laugh.    3 (7.1%)
Mandatory Meme Option (Waffles, Spathe Ham, Banana Smoothies, etc.)    0 (0%)
We find out why Clinton is so scared of Claire!    2 (4.8%)
I'm just here for the party, and I ain't leavin' til they throw me out.    11 (26.2%) (Gretchen Wilson approves.)

Total Members Voted: 42

That's a country song? I thought it was just the "IDK" option.

[Madmartigan]

Hair ruffling is cute.  If it is your grammy doing it.

From my experience, I always associate hair ruffling with indirect, usually unintentional condensation.  As if they're treating you like a kid.  I find it incredibly annoying when people do that.  I'm like, I'm in my bloody 20s dammit!

Which goes back to point of sisterly relations.  I still can't see beyond Dora's treatment of Tai as a cute little butch sister.  The sudden sexy redhead remark seems out of place from Dora.

[Mothykins]

Hair ruffling is cute.  If it is your grammy doing it.

From my experience, I always associate hair ruffling with indirect, usually unintentional condensation.  As if they're treating you like a kid.  I find it incredibly annoying when people do that.  I'm like, I'm in my bloody 20s dammit!

Which goes back to point of sisterly relations.  I still can't see beyond Dora's treatment of Tai as a cute little butch sister.  The sudden sexy redhead remark seems out of place from Dora.

Aah. All right, I guess people associate things like that differently. I don't see much of a difference between hair ruffling, hair stroking, and the like. It all strikes me as cute and fairly intimate. But meh, that's just me.

Oh gosh. I just realized. If Jeph shows those two in post-coitus, it's gonna majorly squick out a good chunk of the readers, isn't it? "Cute little butch sister smexytimes" isn't what most people want to get out of a comic strip xD

[cesariojpn]

Ladies, please stop talking about Marten. Thank you.

Yes, please stop talking about Marten Lawrence. How that dude manages to keep getting movie roles is beyond me.

[beanzilla]

Hair ruffling is cute.  If it is your grammy doing it.

From my experience, I always associate hair ruffling with indirect, usually unintentional condensation.  As if they're treating you like a kid.  I find it incredibly annoying when people do that.  I'm like, I'm in my bloody 20s dammit!

Which goes back to point of sisterly relations.  I still can't see beyond Dora's treatment of Tai as a cute little butch sister.  The sudden sexy redhead remark seems out of place from Dora.

I'll be honest, thinking about condensation occurring because of hair-ruffling makes me feel kind of gross.   

But, assuming you were thinking of condescension, I would generally agree, but sometimes it can be used as an act of endearment. 

[Redball]

My wife's hair would grow in curly after chemos. So did that of a woman I sang with. I enjoyed running my hand across the heads of both. Both accepted it as a loving gesture.

[jwhouk]

From my experience, I always associate hair ruffling with indirect, usually unintentional condensation. 

Condescension n. 1. an act or instance of showing/implying a usually patronizing descent from dignity or superiority (condescending). 2. behavior that is patronizing or condescending. 3. voluntary assumption of equality with a person regarded as inferior.

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Sorry, but after reading a few threads in different forums with spelling mistakes, this one just tripped my inner grammar nazi. I apologize.

[Madmartigan]

I was aware of the spelling error, right when I stepped out the door and it annoyed me.  Then I went to the gym and forgot.

[jwhouk]

Hey, I Godwin'ed my own thread! Where's my "achievement unlocked" badge? 

[CrowFairy]

"Cute little butch sister smexytimes"

AUGH. AUGH. AUGH. MY BRAIN.

That is like the major issue I have with Tai/Dora. Dora doesn't seem sexually interested in Tai, so I didn't even think about that. AUGH. WHY does this feel so incestuous???

[Tova]

Congrats.

[Madmartigan]

"Cute little butch sister smexytimes"

AUGH. AUGH. AUGH. MY BRAIN.

That is like the major issue I have with Tai/Dora. Dora doesn't seem sexually interested in Tai, so I didn't even think about that. AUGH. WHY does this feel so incestuous???

Gonna feel so dirty when/if the smex strip happens. So very very dirty.