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[idontunderstand]

Oh shit, I got all excited again now. Cheers!

[de_la_Nae]

Now I was going to let Idu discover that on their own, but I guess telling them works too. :p

I played on 360, so didn't notice any of the irritating bugs you ran into.

[LeeC]

Oh shit, I got all excited again now. Cheers!

you got to the end of the british guy story didnt ya? 

[idontunderstand]

Not exactly but almost there!

Dang, it's annoying trying to get 100 % on some of the missions.

[Bev]

I actually really liked the prologue, I found Haytham to be a much more charismatic and interesting character than Connor.

[idontunderstand]

Well I haven't got that far, maybe I'll enjoy it more in retrospect! Connor seems a little dull, yes. But he can kill cougars! And climb trees! And stuff! It's enough for me so far.

[LeeC]

I totally lost my shit when they changed from Haytham to Connor.  I have yet to finish the game, but it was totally the highlight as far as I have gotten.

[de_la_Nae]

I was really confused at first, because I could have sworn the main character was part-Iroquois, but then as I reached the end of Haytham's segment I realized what was probably going on. Kind of hurt the reveal

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at Charles Lee's initiation

a little, but was fine.

[Bev]

Would've been a total mind fuck if they only used Haytham in all the previews and advertising, then had the twist that they have and shift to Connor!

[de_la_Nae]

Yeah, and I think that'd have been pretty damned sweet. But Marketing's a total killjoy. And by that I mean they don't share my ideas, so obviously are WRONG (that's how it works right?).

[Blyss]

Yeah, and I think that'd have been pretty damned sweet. But Marketing's a total killjoy. And by that I mean they don't share my ideas, so obviously are WRONG (that's how it works right?).

That is EXACTLY how marketing works.

I have yet to play this game, but had they gone the way of MGS2, and not done the reveal in the commercials, that would have been extremely powerful.  Marketers sometimes forget that word of mouth is the strongest way to advertise, and let me tell you, had they done that, it would have been much more memorable.

Oh, and heh, 500 posts.  lol

[de_la_Nae]

Hahaha, you mean that the switch to Raiden was somewhat secret?! HA! That's amusing to hear.

Oddly enough that's the only one of those games I've ever played all the way through. Despite what some people have told me to the contrary, I feel like it's probably a damned fine summary of the entire series.

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"Everything you know is always wrong. Everyone lies, half of them are already dead. NANOMACHINES!"

[idontunderstand]

I find the hunting system hilarious. So far the only thing I've done is dashing like a madman through the forest and killing everything I've come by. None of the hunting techniques suggested in the animus are worth jack compared to this.

[Pilchard123]

Isn't that pretty much how hunting in any game works?

[idontunderstand]

The only thing missing is that giggling dog.

[de_la_Nae]

I find the hunting system hilarious. So far the only thing I've done is dashing like a madman through the forest and killing everything I've come by. None of the hunting techniques suggested in the animus are worth jack compared to this.

^^^^^ Pretty much. Oh *sometimes* some of the other stuff is useful, but the vast majority of time it is not at all necessary.

That said did you know that you can sometimes slay enemies in combat with items you wouldn't think would work? If you counter and hit the accessory button instead of your main weapon button, some of the accessories you can equip will be used to finish them off, like snares. Doesn't work for everything and uses them up, so often not efficient, but a nice touch nonetheless.

[Blue Kitty]

I liked using snares and my bow and arrows while hunting. One thing I never thought to do was hang people with the rope darts in the cities.

[idontunderstand]

The rope darts provide endless fun if you get nto it.

[LTK]

I liked using snares and my bow and arrows while hunting. One thing I never thought to do was hang people with the rope darts in the cities.

And in the game?

[Bev]

Rope darts are my new favourite weapon, I pretty much used them throughout the whole game to trip guys over when I wasn't near a tree I could hang them from.

[de_la_Nae]

It took me...longer than it should have to actually realize how to hang an enemy from a beam/limb with a rope dart.  For a while there I thought you were *supposed* to mostly use it as a long-distance silent-garrote.

[Gregorio]

I don't understand the economy system.

[idontunderstand]

Great avatar/post synergy there.

[de_la_Nae]

It's weird and in a lot of ways, from what I saw, irrelevant.

That said, I did have fun puttering about with it, if for nothing else being able to say I CAUGHT THEM ALL and then ganked a lot of soldiers (because for all my trying to be a Righteous Healing in the various Bioware morality games, I'm apparently a bloodthirsty sociopath in these).

[LeeC]

because for all my trying to be a Righteous Healing in the various Bioware morality games, I'm apparently a bloodthirsty sociopath in these).

one of these days I am going to play ME1-3 as a new character and every decision I will ask myself "What Would Vegeta from Dragon Ball Z the Abridge Series Do?" WWVDBZABSD? way more hard core than the actual show.  I usually can only do the good guy stuff in moral choice games so I need an evil badass moral compass to play evil.

really need to pick AC3 back up and finish it.

[ackblom12]

"Sounds like somebody's got an ice cream headache!"

[Gregorio]

So, all of my little settlement people get stuff, then I buy some of their stuff, then I use some of that stuff to make other stuff, including convoys. Then convoys deliver stuff for like almost no money, or get attacked so that I lose money and convoys, so I do ship missions to make safer convoy routes (because the Carribean is between my house and Boston), which can be a pain if I don't upgrade my ship, which requires large amounts of money, which I don't have because I OH GOD I STILL HAVE MY DEFAULT AXE AND I KILLED PITCAIRN.

[idontunderstand]

I never used the economy system even once. You get enough money from side missions and chests.

Finished the game now btw. Found the ending to be quite a letdown... but it was fun I guess, it's got nothing on AC2 though.

[LeeC]

the only thing I want from the settlers is a second set of pistols.

it's got nothing on AC2 though.

AC2 is by far the best in the series, hell its one of my top games of all time for Xbox 360 games.

[de_la_Nae]

So, all of my little settlement people get stuff, then I buy some of their stuff, then I use some of that stuff to make other stuff, including convoys. Then convoys deliver stuff for like almost no money, or get attacked so that I lose money and convoys, so I do ship missions to make safer convoy routes (because the Carribean is between my house and Boston), which can be a pain if I don't upgrade my ship, which requires large amounts of money, which I don't have because I OH GOD I STILL HAVE MY DEFAULT AXE AND I KILLED PITCAIRN.

Actually someday you'll get to make ship-convoys, and that's what those particular missions do.

Once you visit/find the various shops, and once you get/produce (since you get a *lot* of trade-good loot in the game by thieving and looting), you can actually make a lot of money in convoys, if you want. Many goods (especially intact furs) are worth a lot more if you send them by wagon/boat than hoofing it yourself.

And you can go defend those convoys. The game opens up a minimap slot for when they're attacked.

[Gregorio]

And you can go defend those convoys. The game opens up a minimap slot for when they're attacked.

Yeah, I saw the notification, just didn't know how to go to the mission.

[de_la_Nae]

It's in the Wilderness territories. You just have to run out there, similar to how you'd assault a Templar-backed caravan, if you've seen that yet.

[Gregorio]

Oh my god that first New York mobile eavesdrop mission is the worst thing. I've had some 100% sync problems, but to get to the last part of that after 15 tries, only to have one guy glitch on a curve spin around and spot me was infuriating. Still fun, though, and I'd rate the game as the second best right behind AC2 in the series for me.

[ackblom12]

The Assassin's Failure

I found this to be a pretty interesting analytical article on AC3's story. Any opinions from those who have played it?

[Pilchard123]

I've not played any of the games, but it was a really good read even so.

[de_la_Nae]

Theoretically I'll pick it back up to finish in the next month. I'll get back to you on it.

[Gregorio]

AC's story gets weird. You can miss out on important dialogues that are part of non-animus interactions or side missions. Then there was that time where I either didn't hear or missed a later reveal that a major character was a traitor before they died, so I was wondering what the hell had happened for two whole games until they brought it back up in AC3. I have no idea what's going on with Juno and Minerva in 3, and my brain kind of hurts. There's a lot going on, but they're handling it all very well given how difficult that can be.

[de_la_Nae]

I'll tell you what happened there, and this gets my goat: The extra paid episodes for the last game or two address that more thoroughly, in the sort of way they *should* have in the main game.

There are actually a few different things covered in those that I wish I just *had* in the normal games, but that particular point is the most damning. To me it's far too central a point to do up like that.

That said, it did look like they were trying to find a way to discuss it in 3 so that someone who hadn't bought the extras could follow along, so I'll give them that.

[LeeC]

wasnt sure if this was a spoiler free thread or not so I ignored everything up to now.  Can anyone tell me if its safe to scroll up?

picked up assassins creed 3 up again today and I am just before the saratoga mission (I think it saratoga, the one in winter time when everyone is starving) when I picked it back up.  I decided to not pick up the main story yet and finish up with what I can with my homesteaders.  Was able to get my dual pistols and craft these french pistols that has 2 shots each (so total or 4 shots! ).  Sadly the game bugged out on me when tracking down the huntress lady on why she wants to leave and it skipped that whole cutscene.  I only now just figured out how to recruit more assassins other than the Quebecois guy Stephane.  Apparently you have to liberate all the of the city districts and you not only get introduced to a new recruit for each district, but the new recruit also adds a new ability for you assassin's guild when you call for back up.  Still gunning for connor to hook up with the tailor lady but looks like the assassin chick is eyeing him.  Trying to raise as much money as I can to upgrade my boat, so far I got more cannons and a stronger hull.  The naval missions are a blast but I want to fully upgrade before i finish them all.  When I pick it back up I'll take down all the templar forts and continue making money with the convoys (oh yeah finally figured that one out too).  If I can get all the money and boat upgrades, its to the high seas! Other wise I'll pick up the main plot again.

I will say recruiting all these assassins make me want to try brotherhood when this is all over.

[Blue Kitty]

Recruiting is a lot better in the 2nd Assassin's Creeds, where you have a veritable army. In this one you only really get a small group of assassins.

[LeeC]

yeah seems more like a specialist team.  You got the berserk Quebecois, the "robin hood" chick, the country bumpkin sniper, the former irish priest with no qualms for killing, the german tough guy, and the amateur doctor.  Other than the sniper it doesnt really feel like the rest know about the whole assassin v templar thing and are more like a crew from boston that does "jobs" than a tightly knit brotherhood with a grandmaster (achilles) trying to train and indoctrinate them in the colonial assassin brotherhood.

It sounds like AC2:Brotherhood might actually have that mentality that this one lacks?