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Author Topic: WCDT: 2377-2381 (4-8 February, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread  (Read 152204 times)

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Has he even eaten since the car trip?

On an empty stomach, even a decidedly-not-skinny guy like yours truly gets a little dizzy after a glass of fine spirits.  Marten may well get drunk on the double.
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What I'm suspecting is that her relationship with Henry was somewhat akin to Marten's relationship with Dora - in the reverse:
  • Where Dora initiated the relationship, Veronica was the passive one (Henry hit on her).
  • Same thing upon ending it - though the whole "dad is gay" thing might have been the actual trigger.
  • Whereas Henry and Veronica might get along with each other (on opposite ends of the country, of course), Veronica might still "have feelings" for Henry.
  • Veronica, similar to Dora, does NOT like the feeling of not being "in control" - and is at a point where she can't do anything about it.
  • Veronica believes in the Faye Whitaker Coping Method. (A Coping Mechanism on the Rocks.)
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At home, I drink my Laphroaig out of a Glencairn glass.

In bars, it mostly comes in a rocks glass or a small tumbler.

I have had it served in a plastic tumbler at some large gatherings. 
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I wonder what Veronica's Tequila monster looks like
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I doubt Marten is going to get drunk on 30 year old whisky, even he's not that foolish, is he?
I dunno, I've got hammered on whisky only barely younger than me, when I was that age. :oops: :-o

My preferred tipple is Talisker, generally from a shot glass.
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I wonder what Veronica's Tequila monster looks like

Nobody knows. She won't let it take off the gimp suit.
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Yessssss.... the little scotchhhh.....
I want this scotch - unless it's an Islay. 

That's OK, I'll take it off your hands if it's an Islay. My three top destilleries are Islay: Bruichladdich, Lagavulin and Laphroaig, in that order.

I prefer Highland Park myself, but to each their own. 
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I doubt Marten is going to get drunk on 30 year old whisky, even he's not that foolish, is he?
I dunno, I've got hammered on whisky only barely younger than me, when I was that age. :oops: :-o

My preferred tipple is Talisker, generally from a shot glass.

Last time I had 3 whiskey shots in 5 minutes, my coordination was shot immediately.  Can't imagine what aged whiskey will do to him on an empty stomach.  And I'm a skinny dude like Marten.
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So, assuming that #2378 is foreshadowing, I think Marten will get heinously drunk and then meet up with his Uncle. Together they will summon the weed monster.

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Waitwaitwait, so Marten's father is Henry Reed?? Haha, I know what books Jeph used to read as a kid!

(I never caught it before because Henry never said his full name before, and I can never remember Marten's last name.)
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Welcome, new person!

You're the first to notice this.

The timing is about right for Jeph to have read them.
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I wonder what Veronica's Tequila monster looks like

Nobody knows. She won't let it take off the gimp suit.

I was thinking this was the other way around, where her tequila monster is the only being that she subs for.
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There should be a tequila monster stuffed animal. I'd keep it on my desk at work.
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"Or what, mom? Watcha gonna do, spank me?"

It would shock the hell outta me and represent some MAJOR character development for Marten to ever say anything like that to his mother. He is too much the stereotypical Momma's Boy.

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Which was quickly stomped out by Veronica.
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There has been a flash of assertiveness.

Sorry but no, worst example you could have come up with. Marten gets a little snarky in the first panel, second panel Marten's Mom utterly SMASHES him down like he's an upstart child. And Marten goes along with it like he really is still that child. No, he'd have to go much farther than that to assert his adulthood, and be willing to risk Momma's Wrath,or possibly even worse, Momma Not Speaking To Him For Awhile. Though he might not consider that last part to be so bad...I'm starting to agree with the posters who think that following Vicki was a convenient excuse for Marten to get out from under his mother's thumb by putting a continent between them. It even makes visits difficult and expensive.
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It even makes visits difficult and expensive.

Not when she's got her clients' money to spend. :mrgreen:
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Of course, you are talking about a woman who knows a thing or two about whips and such.

Veronica probably only needs to use that certain tone with Marten before he gets the mental image of mom breaking out her riding crop.
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Yeah, the only off thing Henry's really so far in the comic is slapping Faye's ass.
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Tequila monster.

Kilt.

Pretty please.
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There has been a flash of assertiveness.

Sorry but no, worst example you could have come up with. Marten gets a little snarky in the first panel, second panel Marten's Mom utterly SMASHES him down like he's an upstart child. And Marten goes along with it like he really is still that child.

I think "flash" is just the right word for something that appears for an instant and is immediately snuffed.
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Fair point, IICIH. And you just made me think of something.

What would happen if Veronica was rude, condescending, invasive or otherwise mean towards Hannelore?

(Apart from there being no redeeming her in the forum's collective eyes?)
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I wouldn't say no redeeming, Clinton's been at least moderately redeemed by being an apparently awesome brother.
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True, but being creepy towards Hannelore was the ONLY thing that Clinton ever really did to make him unlikable. I think.

My point is, would Marten be the doormat, or would he be the fierce protector of his friends?
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He might very well stand up for a friend when he wouldn't stand up for himself.

Has Ms. Reed ever been seen treating a non-customer as badly as she does Marten?
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Has Ms. Reed ever been seen treating a non-customer as badly as she does Marten?

Absolutely not. She even hugged Dora after she dumped Marten.
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True, but being creepy towards Hannelore was the ONLY thing that Clinton ever really did to make him unlikable. I think.

My point is, would Marten be the doormat, or would he be the fierce protector of his friends?

Let us hope it never reaches that point.
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I wonder what Veronica's Tequila monster looks like

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"Or what, mom? Watcha gonna do, spank me?"

It would shock the hell outta me and represent some MAJOR character development for Marten to ever say anything like that to his mother. He is too much the stereotypical Momma's Boy.
Yeah, but I can hope. Besides, it has a "hee hee, she's a dominatrix!" feel.

What would happen if Veronica was rude, condescending, invasive or otherwise mean towards Hannelore?
Veronica and Hannermom would have an Alpha Bitch throwdown.

I wouldn't say no redeeming, Clinton's been at least moderately redeemed by being an apparently awesome brother.
He was the opposite of mean, he just had boundary issues. A bit like Hannelore in the beginning, come to think (yes, stalking= boundary issues).


Mistreating Hannelore just might be what spurs Marten to action against her, kind of like the Emperor insinuating he'd go after Lukes sister. He's always been a (very weak) white knight.

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True, but being creepy towards Hannelore was the ONLY thing that Clinton ever really did to make him unlikable. I think.

My point is, would Marten be the doormat, or would he be the fierce protector of his friends?

Let us hope it never reaches that point.

No, Marten's been downright valiant several times -- always, always in defense of his friends. Even if he was taking a swing at someone with a street sign, or gamely going up against a transforming Vespa, or wielding a broadsword to defend Hannelore from CreepyClinton -- even if he doesn't stand up for himself, he will stand up for his friends.

Not always that successfully, but it's the thought that counts!
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It's possible Marten would hit on Claire, but Claire might not want to take advantage of his inebriated state, unless she was drunk too. But we don't know Claire that much to know that for sure.
She seems to have her head attached firmly to her shoulders.
She might have... issues...though. It's unlikely she treats sex with a healthy degree of casualness. If unusual anatomy is a thing of the past, maybe. It may not be, and no it's not polite to ask, or to speculate. Even here. Even of a comic strip character.

Intersex people face the same kind of issues. Many are fine having unusual anatomy there, but we realise others may not be so blase.

As a member of the Uni's ALLY program, I've had to help Intersex students as best I can. It gets complicated in those situations because they often don't know they're Intersex until their late teens. When a gal of 18 gets told the reason she hasn't started her periods yet is not because she's a "late bloomer", but she has CAIS and XY chromosomes, or Swyer syndrome, or some such, it can be a real shock. If some (long string of sulpherous and unladylike expletives capable of stripping paint at 20 metres) "doctor" tells her she's "genetically male" then I'm really, seriously tempted to commit homicide. With refinements. There's no such thing - one in 300 men aren't XY, some women are. Even those who have given birth. Such (long string of scatalogical and malefic expletives again) crass insensitivity can be psychologically devastating for those unprepared for it.

Anyway, I have to help such young women decide what to tell their boyfriends. Or girlfriends.
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Our relationship with the characters is already "not polite", but you're on solid ground if you want to posit that publicly speculating about the extent of Claire's reassignment is creepy.

Jumping several moves ahead in a potential debate about fictional characters, I imagine you saying that by not speculating about Claire we are getting critically important practice in how to treat real trans* people. Would you say that in reality?
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True, but being creepy towards Hannelore was the ONLY thing that Clinton ever really did to make him unlikable. I think.

My point is, would Marten be the doormat, or would he be the fierce protector of his friends?

Let us hope it never reaches that point.

I, for one, DO hope it reaches that point eventually. Marten needs opportunities to grow some spine (although I agree that smashing his mother with a pan might be a bit over the top).
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I, for one, DO hope it reaches that point eventually. Marten needs opportunities to grow some spine (although I agree that smashing his mother with a pan might be a bit over the top).
I agree. It would likely cause pandemonium!  :-D
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Oh, come on, let's not turn this into a pan thread.
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No, pandemonium is what you get in exchange when you sell pandas.

If you hit a monk with a pan, is that a religious act? Is Marten a pantheist?
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I don't think Marten's motivations were necessarily religious... I think he just panicked.

(And thanks Westrim, now I really want to see Veronica and Beatrice fight it out.)
(Who would win in a fight between Veronica Reed and Beatrice Chatham?)
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(And thanks Westrim, now I really want to see Veronica and Beatrice fight it out.)
(Who would win in a fight between Veronica Reed and Beatrice Chatham?)

Well, Veronica could presumably blackmail politicians into shutting Beatrice's business down. Then again, Beatrice is not above using shark tanks to get rid of people, so...
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Veronica would probably hand Beatrice quite the whuppin, I think, having been into BDSM for so long.Higher pain thresholds and such. But that isn't to say CHatham wouldn't give a good account of herself, but I just don't think she's used to winning her battles physically.

At least not without sharks anyway.
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Who's to say she couldn't smuggle a shark tank into the fighting arena?
Also, does Veronica necessarily need to have the higher pain threshold if she's the one dishing out the pain?
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Beatrice gets rid of subordinates by firing them into volcanoes. She would probably settle a one-on-one fight by making a phone call. Then a satellite powers up, there's a flash of light, and a scorch mark where her opponent stood.
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Gotta get the call off first. Come on, everyone knows that finishing moves require you to be completely vulnerable for a ludicrous length of time. :mrgreen:
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I can't really blame Veronica for being mean to Marten. He's kind of like this guy.
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