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« on: 01 Mar 2013, 05:13 »

So what are we all drinking at the moment....?

A friend brought me back a simply scrummy 12 year old Aberlour Ruby Port Cask Aged bottle from the Distillery recently, its pretty damned good...
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« Reply #1 on: 01 Mar 2013, 05:20 »

Captain Morgan's SPICED JAMAICAN RUM!!
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Re: Whisk(e)ys
« Reply #2 on: 01 Mar 2013, 05:50 »

Captain Morgan's SPICED JAMAICAN RUM!!

wrong topic :-D

As I've already stated in the drunkards thread, I currently consider Laphroaig Quarter Cask to be my favourite Whisky. If I could afford something better, I would probably go for a Talisker Distillers Edition, as I had the opportunity to try one, and was astonished.
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Re: Whisk(e)ys
« Reply #3 on: 01 Mar 2013, 06:47 »

Whisky's evil, nearly dislocated my shoulder once because of it, couldn't move my arm for almost a month... I suffer from Severe Clumsiness mixed with a case of Two Left Feet that only gets worse when I drink :(
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Re: Whisk(e)ys
« Reply #4 on: 01 Mar 2013, 07:02 »

Drink less! I've been drunk of whisky only once in my life. And that was only a slight tipsiness. When I drink whisky, it's all about the taste. One or two glasses max.
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« Reply #5 on: 01 Mar 2013, 07:09 »

I did go a little overboard that night...
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Re: Whisk(e)ys
« Reply #6 on: 01 Mar 2013, 07:34 »

Whisky is not something to get drunk on,  its there to be savoured...
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Re: Whisk(e)ys
« Reply #7 on: 01 Mar 2013, 07:56 »

I am writing a treatise on this subject (not more than fifty or sixty thousand words), which I will post later. 

Meanwhile:  Laphroaig!. 

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Re: Whisk(e)ys
« Reply #8 on: 01 Mar 2013, 08:37 »

Lagavulin is my all-time favourite.  But at present my open bottle is an unassuming but perfectly pleasant Jura.
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Re: Whisk(e)ys
« Reply #9 on: 01 Mar 2013, 09:27 »

Whisky is not something to get drunk on,  its there to be savoured...
Definitely learnt that lesson the hard way ;)
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« Reply #10 on: 01 Mar 2013, 09:37 »

man, I usually go for the cheap whiskey and get so pissed i can't see straight. i feel like i'm doing it right...
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« Reply #11 on: 01 Mar 2013, 09:44 »

man, I usually go for the cheap whiskey and get so pissed i can't see straight. i feel like i'm doing it right...
Whiskey. with an e. Without an e it's scotch, with the e it's (in most cases) bourbon, or irish whiskey. Or Canadian Rye whiskey. I'm not a great fan of bourbon anyway. And comparing a fine scotch to a cheap bourbon is, well, like comparing apples to oranges.
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« Reply #12 on: 01 Mar 2013, 09:48 »

the difference in spelling isn't because of any difference in the alcohol, just a difference in where it's coming from.
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« Reply #13 on: 01 Mar 2013, 09:51 »

But it's produced in very different ways. The base materials differ as well.

Usually cheap bourbon has only matured one year, while most scotchs start at 10 years.
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« Reply #14 on: 01 Mar 2013, 10:01 »

but that's not the distinction whisky/whiskey makes. http://www.thekitchn.com/whiskey-vs-whisky-whats-the-di-100476
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« Reply #15 on: 01 Mar 2013, 10:08 »

Oh, I wasn't aware there was a distinction between whiskey/whisky either. My poison was of the Irish variety - Bushmills and then Jameson I believe.
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« Reply #16 on: 01 Mar 2013, 10:13 »

there isn't, is what I'm saying.  :-P it's just a different spelling - it's the difference between color and colour. they're both correct, they're just regional spellings.
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« Reply #17 on: 01 Mar 2013, 10:20 »

^ Ha, should have read your link before commenting  :-P Makes sense though!
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« Reply #18 on: 01 Mar 2013, 10:20 »

Yes, they are regional spellings. The producers who write "Whiskey" on their bottles are from Ireland and the US, the producers who write "Whisky" on their bottles are not. And as the products differ from region to region, the spelling is important.
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« Reply #19 on: 01 Mar 2013, 11:49 »

To me, the e, or lack of, is important.    Whiskey is for mixing, be it in a cocktail or with coke wheras Whisky is to be savoured on the rocks or with a small splash of water. 
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« Reply #20 on: 01 Mar 2013, 11:53 »

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« Reply #21 on: 01 Mar 2013, 12:01 »

Irish Whiskey is very different from Scotch Whisky. The same with Bourbon Whiskey.

If I mix something I use (Bourbon) Whiskey, if I want to enjoy something good, then I drink (Scotch) Whisky.
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« Reply #22 on: 01 Mar 2013, 12:46 »

I'm no whisk(e)y drinker, just being a beer geek is expensive enough already, but I did have a Russian Imperial Stout aged in various bourbon and whisky barrels last night. Does that count?
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« Reply #23 on: 01 Mar 2013, 13:02 »

Meanwhile:  Laphroaig!

Totes agree dude. Talisker is also a fave.

As it's Saint David's Day I gotta shout out to Penderyn.
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« Reply #24 on: 01 Mar 2013, 13:14 »

I am a firm believer in the powers of Islay. Nearly everything from that island is excellent. Big bowmore fan. I've drank everything from them that I could afford and some things that I could not. 16 year olds from a bordeaux and a sherry cask, limited editions from 1996 or something are favourites. I had some ardbeg, is okay. I had some bruichladdich, awesome, recently an octomore ... So good ... I had several encounters with Port Ellen and those might be the best Islays but sadly very rare. Caol Ila ... Also good ...

Basically I love strong, peaty, woody scotches.
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« Reply #25 on: 01 Mar 2013, 13:24 »

Yeah, personally, it depends on the occasion. If I'm out for the night then Jameson is usually my preference. For a nightcap however, Islay is the business.

Ladies and Gentleman, may I be allowed to be so bold as to raise a subject of great controversy?

Namely: on the rocks, or neat?
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« Reply #26 on: 01 Mar 2013, 13:29 »

No water in the Whisky. I have some Whisky Rocks, if it's too warm, but usually I drink my whisky unchilled.
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« Reply #27 on: 01 Mar 2013, 13:51 »

I sat down and wrote this after the morning's errands, but before I
went through the thread.  Then I read the thread and edited it
somewhat.

Well, yes.  I am a Laphroaig drinker, and I usually drink the regular
10 year old. 

I started out drinking Glenfiddich (my brother-in-law's tipple), but
then a friend introduced me to Laphroaig, and that was that. 

I have tried Laphroaig cask strength, quarter cask, and 15 year old,
all very good.  I tend to drink the 10 year old, primarily keeping the
other stuff for special occasions.  I drink it almost neat, just a
little splash of water to release the flavor and aroma (as advised by
the Laphroaig distiller.  My friend who introduced me the Laphroaig puts
a little cracked ice in his.  I do have a glencairn glass that I drink
it from. 

I have also tried Lagavulin, Ardbeg Uigeadail, Caol Ila, Talisker, and
Bowmore.  I have not tried Bruichladdich or Bunnahabhain, since I can't
find them here, although I keep checking. 

There is also a single malt distilled in Wales, Penderyn
distillery, which I would like to try,
and is apparently available from a liquor store across the city from me,
although I have not been there yet. 

At various festive gatherings, I have drunk blended rotgut scotch, but I
tend to water it down.  And add ice.  Doesn't help much. 

I have the following in my liquor cabinet at the moment:  Bacardi rum,
Lord Calvert Canadian (my sister-in-law drinks this), Laphroaig 10 year old,
the potcheen mentioned in another thread, another sample bottle of
Bunratty mead, some red wine (Shiraz), Tanqueray gin, and Smirnoff Vodka.

I do drink Irish whiskey, usually Bushmill's or Jameson's, neat. 

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« Reply #28 on: 01 Mar 2013, 13:53 »

Penderyn is nice. Pungent.
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« Reply #29 on: 01 Mar 2013, 14:02 »

Out of curiosity, how often do you guys try new whisky's? As a beer geek, trying new beer is what it's all about but I imagine that that's not all that feasible for whiskey when you're paying £/$/€50+ a bottle.
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« Reply #30 on: 01 Mar 2013, 14:10 »

Too often. Bottles are slowly gathering in my shelve, with approx. one new bottle per month.
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« Reply #31 on: 01 Mar 2013, 14:11 »

Usually pick up a bottle from duty-free at Edinburgh Airport when passing through - try to go for something different each time.

If out then will try different varieties. A single is usually the same cost as a pint. So no big deal.

Am not a connoisseur though, so probably atypical experience.

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« Reply #32 on: 01 Mar 2013, 14:13 »

I tend to buy a bottle of some new whisky every two or three  months, at most, but a bottle of Laphroaig about monthly. 

If I buy a new whisky, I tend to drink it rather than Laphroaig until it is gone, then I go back to my Laphroaig.
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« Reply #33 on: 01 Mar 2013, 14:20 »

Too often. Bottles are slowly gathering in my shelve, with approx. one new bottle per month.
Yeah, on my budget I'd come out at about 1 new bottle a month I think, I've had nearly 400 different beers in the past 3 years though vs what could/would have been about 36-40 different whisk(e)ys.

I've even had more beers aged in whisk(e)y barrels than actual whisk(e)ys.  :roll:
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« Reply #34 on: 01 Mar 2013, 14:24 »

I like Aberlour but it's expensive generally so I'm working my way through a bottle of Glenlivet I got for Christmas. It's not amazing (it's a bit too small and is all finish) but it's growing on me.
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« Reply #35 on: 01 Mar 2013, 14:59 »

I sat down and wrote this after the morning's errands, but before I
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somewhat.

Well, yes.  I am a Laphroaig drinker, and I usually drink the regular
10 year old. 

I started out drinking Glenfiddich (my brother-in-law's tipple), but
then a friend introduced me to Laphroaig, and that was that. 

I have tried Laphroaig cask strength, quarter cask, and 15 year old,
all very good.  I tend to drink the 10 year old, primarily keeping the
other stuff for special occasions.  I drink it almost neat, just a
little splash of water to release the flavor and aroma (as advised by
the Laphroaig distiller.  My friend who introduced me the Laphroaig puts
a little cracked ice in his.  I do have a glencairn glass that I drink
it from. 

I have also tried Lagavulin, Ardbeg Uigeadail, Caol Ila, Talisker, and
Bowmore.  I have not tried Bruichladdich or Bunnahabhain, since I can't
find them here, although I keep checking. 

There is also a single malt distilled in Wales, Penderyn
distillery, which I would like to try,
and is apparently available from a liquor store across the city from me,
although I have not been there yet. 

At various festive gatherings, I have drunk blended rotgut scotch, but I
tend to water it down.  And add ice.  Doesn't help much. 

I have the following in my liquor cabinet at the moment:  Bacardi rum,
Lord Calvert Canadian (my sister-in-law drinks this), Laphroaig 10 year old,
the potcheen mentioned in another thread, another sample bottle of
Bunratty mead, some red wine (Shiraz), Tanqueray gin, and Smirnoff Vodka.

I do drink Irish whiskey, usually Bushmill's or Jameson's, neat.

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« Reply #36 on: 01 Mar 2013, 21:25 »

Thank you. I did promise a treatise, I believe.
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« Reply #37 on: 02 Mar 2013, 00:51 »

I am poor so I don't buy anything very often. So ... I drink slowly. Neat, by the way.

I do go to the occassional whiskey fair and get to taste stuff then. And get pretty hammered along the way. They always give you too much booze at these gatherings. Odd complaint, maybe, but there it is.

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« Reply #38 on: 02 Mar 2013, 02:56 »

So ... I drink slowly. Neat, by the way.

Me too! I think ice ruins a delicious whiskey.
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« Reply #39 on: 02 Mar 2013, 03:16 »

Indeed. *Sighs and remembers the one time he got shouted a glass of fine Irish whiskey once at a business thing he had to attend. He's pretty sure he's had wet dreams about that whiskey.*
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« Reply #40 on: 02 Mar 2013, 03:37 »

Namely: on the rocks, or neat?

If I am in a pub/bar I'll usually have it on the rocks.      However at home its either straight up neat or a teeny splash of water depending on my mood.  Water does release flavours in the drink which you may not otherwise detect.  Only a tiny tiny amount though, less than 1/4 water
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« Reply #41 on: 02 Mar 2013, 05:04 »

If I am wanting to get drunk and have no mixer, I'll put ice in cheap shitty scotch to blunt its horror.
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« Reply #42 on: 02 Mar 2013, 09:26 »

If someone gives me a bottle of cheap scotch I save it until november and then add sugar, orange peel, cloves and figs. Leave for month and you have a wonderful winter drink which has nothing to do with the horrible scotch it once was.

Also, I have one terrible bottle in the closet for decontamination of wounds.
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« Reply #43 on: 04 Mar 2013, 13:23 »

For me, as a fresh graduate, cheap whiskey will always have to be shoved crudely in a dirty glass with cheap cola. Maybe some ice if there is any left in the tiny student freezer. Follow it up with whatever beer was on offer at the supermarket.

Obviously you're all very seasoned. Jack Daniels isn't too bad - very much middle of the road stuff. I also really enjoy Red Stag when I want something a bit different.

Proper Scoth...Jonny Walker Red Label is great. The Famous Grouse is also quite smokey. I would love to get some proper aged stuff but it is rather expensive. I never go and drink whiskey at bars, because they over-charge and i don't want THEM to prepare my whiskey for me. Its a savouring thing. Pour all the dirty pints you like, there's one poison I prefer to do myself.

So, what recommendations do people have to move into tasty whiskeys? I've heard Jura is fairly good. I walk past a massive 21 year old Glenfiddich poster every day from work, which makes the after-work-drink seem all that more appealing.
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« Reply #44 on: 04 Mar 2013, 13:29 »

Well, if you want something mild, then maybe something common like a Glenmorangie Original, I still like this one. Oban is quite nice as well, but I prefer Glenmorangie. If you want something really, really tasty and peaty, Laphroiag. It's probably one of the best known whiskys from Islay, and very popular for the strong taste. It's also rather affordable. If you can afford a little bit more (around 4€ difference here in Germany) you might also try the Laphroaig Quarter Cask, which tastes much stronger, but not of the Alcohol. Ardbeg is great as well, and Bruichladdich is fantastic.
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« Reply #45 on: 05 Mar 2013, 06:11 »

My current favourite whisky is the Pedro Ximénez finish Bruichladdich. It has all the flavour strength of the best Islays combined with a sweet smoothness from the Sherry casks - it's hard to beat for an Islay guy like me.
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« Reply #46 on: 05 Mar 2013, 13:39 »

I do need to sample more of the "Glen"s.

I got an email about a weird East London phenomenon that involves racing electronic horses and drinking cocktails. I hear bets (and hopefully cigars) are on the menu. Anyway, this email came with a recepie:

MAKE YOUR OWN
MALT JOCKEY

Why not get in the mood for an evening at the races with a Malt Jockey cocktail? Created by Dean Callan

INGREDIENTS
40ml Monkey Shoulder, 30ml sweet vermouth, 10ml maraschino liqueur, 3 dashes chocolate bitters
METHOD
1. Add all ingredients to mixing glass
2. Add ice and stir
3. Strain into chilled glass
Garnish with a twist of orange

Complicated, I know. (Monkey Shoulder will be the new one to try! It comes in an awesome bottle but is rather pricey)
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« Reply #47 on: 11 Mar 2013, 16:57 »

Obviously you're all very seasoned. Jack Daniels isn't too bad - very much middle of the road stuff. I also really enjoy Red Stag when I want something a bit different.
Ugh, fuck Jack. I'd rather drink Evan Williams for half the price. If I'm going to pay ~20 a bottle I'll go for Buffalo Trace or some small batch on sale.

I've found that cheap scotch (dewars etc) is a good mixer. If I'm doing a well mixed drink at a ball that has scotch, I'll take it over the Jim Beam they all seem to have around here. Beam is just too sweet.
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Re: Whisk(e)ys
« Reply #48 on: 11 Mar 2013, 17:07 »

If I remember rightly, Monkey Shoulder is a blend, but a brilliant one, and the only one I'll drink happily neat.
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Re: Whisk(e)ys
« Reply #49 on: 06 Apr 2013, 22:20 »

I don't drink whiskey that often, but when I do it's bourbon, and always neat. I had Knob Creek tonight when I went out, and I should point out that I know of its existence because of Faye. I've liked the couple ryes I've tried (but I can't name any), and I'll drink Jameson once in a while if the occasion calls for it. I've never liked scotch, though.
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