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Which QC character, besides Clinton or Claire, would you most like to have as a sibling?

Dora
- 4 (5.4%)
Sven
- 1 (1.4%)
Faye
- 4 (5.4%)
Tai
- 3 (4.1%)
Marigold
- 12 (16.2%)
Hanners
- 10 (13.5%)
Mieville
- 1 (1.4%)
Raven
- 3 (4.1%)
Veronica
- 1 (1.4%)
Jimbo
- 1 (1.4%)
Jim
- 0 (0%)
Padma
- 0 (0%)
Princess (Sven's cat)
- 1 (1.4%)
Pintsize
- 0 (0%)
Yelling Bird
- 1 (1.4%)
Shame Orb
- 1 (1.4%)
Harriet
- 3 (4.1%)
Turkeys (male)
- 1 (1.4%)
Turkeys (female)
- 0 (0%)
Other (specify)
- 2 (2.7%)
OK, Fine, Claire
- 3 (4.1%)
Oops, forgot Marten
- 5 (6.8%)
And Momo
- 11 (14.9%)
Let alone Emily!
- 6 (8.1%)

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Author Topic: WCDT: 2425-2429 (15-19 April, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread  (Read 80989 times)

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Understood, but when discussing Clinton's experience of the transition, isn't that what it looked like to him?

I can't speak on behalf of the community and I don't claim to represent it, but the way I see it, what you're saying is just wrong, and I'm not sure you understand. Way too much emphasis is placed on transition, people make a big deal out of what should be completely irrelevant. Claire isn't a "trans person", she's just a person. She may have been born with some male traits, physically, but that doesn't change who she is, or was, at all. She's just Claire, and she's always been Claire. Think of "transition" like, say, surgery for a heart condition - do you think of that person any differently because they had surgery for a heart condition? Presumably it doesn't even cross your mind. In the same way that surgery for a heart condition is a non-factor, "transition" should be a non-factor in your mind.


Let's talk further, over in the trans issues thread in Discuss.
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"Should be" and "is" are often two different things. What's being speculated upon here is not how Clinton should have thought about Claire, but how he actually thought about her.

Unless my memory is failing me, there is absolutely nothing in the comic / anything surrounding the comic that suggests Clinton did anything wrong. In addition, Jeph has made it clear that his stance with Claire is to show inclusiveness, not conflict. To me, to suggest that Clinton may have viewed Claire differently is completely baseless speculation and feels like a suggestion from someone who doesn't fully understand the implications of what they're suggesting. I'm open to the possibility that my interpretation of the situation may be wrong, that's just how I see it.

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Let's talk further, over in the trans issues thread in Discuss.

Whoops, didn't see this. Sorry, I did not intend to derail this thread.
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Whoops, didn't see this. Sorry, I did not intend to derail this thread.

Don't see how you could be, given that the current comics are of Claire and trans* issues.

If anything it was our language-talk that was off-topic.
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What is unmistakable is that Clinton is the kind of family member every trans person should have and that far too many don't have.

I wonder how much is because he's a DHB and how much is because they had to stick together to ride out the divorce.
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Clinton made a bad first impression.
Then he made a bad second impression.
Then (for me) a bad third, a bad fourth, and... how many appearances has he made so far?

Just because he's kind to his sister doesn't make him in any way a tolerable character for me. If I see he's in it, I skip the day's strip.

A day with no strip at all is better than a strip with Clinton in it for me.
But Jeph can write whatever he wants  :-) Even if that's not your cup of tea.
I am very sorry that I dared to have a preference. I shall return immediately to praising the great lord Jeph.
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Clinton is pretty awesome for being supportive and protective of Claire, even if overprotective at times. I would have wished for a brother like that instead of, well... I haven't spoken to my blood relations in over a decade.
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I hope Claire's parents turn out to be better than that.

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Actually, HAVE we heard anything about their parents?
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Actually, HAVE we heard anything about their parents?

It was linked earlier, but yes: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2371
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Oh that's right.
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Jeez Clinton. just when I was beginning to think you wern't such a twat.   :roll:
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Claire isn't a "trans person", she's just a person.

That Jeph is writing her accordingly has pleased a lot of people (in addition to being good art per se).

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 New Comic!

 The fact that he said "Which one?" instead of "No" scares me  :psyduck: .
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I'm not sure what to make of today's comic, but I do like Emily referring to Clinton as Mister Robot Hand. :-D

Mega Man doesn't really mean anything to me, it's not a game I've ever seen, or has particularly ever come up before, so I'm not quite sure what Emily's surprise is for, unless she's running off to see about acquiring the later titles.
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For some reason as she is running off, I hear Adam West yelling "To the Batmobile, Robin!"
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I read is as if Emily has already played the later Mega Man games without knowing about the new feature, and now want to play them again with her newfound knowledge.

Warning - while you were wasting time a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.

*Sigh*
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Now I want to see an epic battle.

Clintonhand vs. Pintsize vs. Deathbot 9000 vs. Vespabot

...vs Momo vs. Squirrel.

I have only seen the Megaman anime.
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Oh, Emily.  Don't ever ch–

Aaaaaugh noooooooo!!!
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Next strip is Emily slamming into someone on her way home and beginning an arc of character development for her.

I'm thinking Sven.  :evil:
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How is the library warm enough for a woman to be comfortable in a tank top and shorts?
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Ugh, Clinton just introduced Emily to the worst thing that ever happened to the Mega Man franchise.

"Hey fellow Capcom employees, we're renowned for making some of the most awesome videogame music ever, so how about in all our future Mega Man games we give Mega Man an ability that the players would be foolish not to use, and also make it give off a constant high-pitched WEE WEE WEE WEE WEE sound to drown out the kickin' midi tunes?"

I really like the Night Watch novels by Sergey Lukyanenko. There you have an additional dimension, the Twilight, which you can enter with magic. It amplifies your abilities and makes you immaterial to people in the real world and you can still manipulate the real world. The downsides are that it continiously drains your magical energy and that sounds are stifled etc.

The games have really beautiful music. Except you spend half of it in combat. And, you guessed it. Normal music is not present when you are in the Twilight. And you must enter Twilight, because the enemy does. *rage*
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Emily's mind = blown
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How is the library warm enough for a woman to be comfortable in a tank top and shorts?
A bundle of energy like that would be warm in a snowstorm.

Hey, haven't we seen that second panel background before? Momo and the squirrel maybe, or Marten and Angus's slapfight?
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Hmmm... I maybe she didn't know about the MegaMan games AFTER MM3?
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How is the library warm enough for a woman to be comfortable in a tank top and shorts?

Air conditioning?
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But seriously, Emily+Clinton?  :psyduck:

No, down ship, down.



Behave.... Good ship.



(my sister loves this show, ok? :P)

also, emily's head looks kinda weird to me in the second frame.  :psyduck:

I love how Clinton didn't say "no"  :-D
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Mega Man doesn't really mean anything to me, it's not a game I've ever seen, or has particularly ever come up before, so I'm not quite sure what Emily's surprise is for, unless she's running off to see about acquiring the later titles.
Maybe she already has a Mega Man Mega Collection, and could never quite get anywhere with the later ones. Now she is armed with new knowledge, she actually stands more of a chance, maybe...
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Hey, haven't we seen that second panel background before? Momo and the squirrel maybe, or Marten and Angus's slapfight?

Yep. Also Faye and Padma's street sparring, and Elliot's enthusiastic high five. Jeph likes it.
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 The fact that he said "Which one?" instead of "No" scares me  :psyduck: .

Personally, I rather liked how he delivered it with a straight face
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Next strip is Emily slamming into someone on her way home and beginning an arc of character development for her.

I'm thinking Sven.  :evil:

I'd really love to see some development of Emily's character but I'm not sure a relationship would work. I do really miss Sven and although I don't think Emily is right for him that's mostly because Emily doesn't have much depth of character. She's just zany and off-beat and when I compare her to Hannelore or Marigold who have wackier moments she seems so shallow. She behaves as if she's younger than Sam (who is a hundred kinds of awesome) so a relationship arc feels a little creepy.

I'm not giving up on Emily, I'm just hanging in here trying to be patient while Jeph does his thing. And secretly hoping for more Sven :)
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Poor Emily...she's gonna die of Terminal Worldview Collapse. And all before she can come back, clarify her question to Clinton, and have him give her a resounding "No."

Maybe he does shoot blasters. :psyduck: After all, it does have a murder mode...but then again, so do the rest of us.
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I kind of want to try playing later games without the charge. It makes me wonder if she somehow managed to beat them by doing so.

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I could never get after the moving platforms at the beginning of the Guts Man level, and over the decades I've made fresh attempts every few years. Still can't.
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Maybe she is.running out of fear. His response implies that his  hand has weapons attachments,  it is just unclear which game they resemble.

I too am unfamiliar with the game as I have never been into video games.
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Ugh, Clinton just introduced Emily to the worst thing that ever happened to the Mega Man franchise.

"Hey fellow Capcom employees, we're renowned for making some of the most awesome videogame music ever, so how about in all our future Mega Man games we give Mega Man an ability that the players would be foolish not to use, and also make it give off a constant high-pitched WEE WEE WEE WEE WEE sound to drown out the kickin' midi tunes?"

What I hated about charged shots is it made the pea shooter good. The pea shooter's not supposed to be good. When it's good it hurts mega mans entire gimmick, stealing powers from bosses.
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Clinton very effectively demonstrates the Nerd Snipe (the Unladen Swallow variant). :D
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 Could it be that the only console Emily ever know was the SNES? (and the few games she have).
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Emily's mind = blown

It has been for a long time.
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Next strip is Emily slamming into someone on her way home and beginning an arc of character development for her.

I'm thinking Sven.  :evil:
She bumps into Sven who is still reading the same book and drops it again. She reads the whole thing that night and changes her major to history the next day.
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How is the library warm enough for a woman to be comfortable in a tank top and shorts?
Because she's Emily. No further explanation should be needed.
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How is the library warm enough for a woman to be comfortable in a tank top and shorts?

Huh? Are libraries particularly cold in America or something? What? :psyduck:
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How is the library warm enough for a woman to be comfortable in a tank top and shorts?

The current storylines take place in summer. They're summer interns, after all.
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I'd really love to see some development of Emily's character but I'm not sure a relationship would work. I do really miss Sven and although I don't think Emily is right for him that's mostly because Emily doesn't have much depth of character. She's just zany and off-beat and when I compare her to Hannelore or Marigold who have wackier moments she seems so shallow. She behaves as if she's younger than Sam (who is a hundred kinds of awesome) so a relationship arc feels a little creepy.

I'm not giving up on Emily, I'm just hanging in here trying to be patient while Jeph does his thing. And secretly hoping for more Sven :)
Precisely why she needs Character Developmenttm, and who better to help her than a guy that's gotten much more grounded lately himself!

How is the library warm enough for a woman to be comfortable in a tank top and shorts?
Huh? Are libraries particularly cold in America or something? What? :psyduck:
Large buildings, be they offices or public or factories, have a tendency to be cold, often around 65-70 degrees F (18-21 C). The possible reasons range from disdain for sweatiness to over-insulated obese people to master temp being controlled by morons (many buildings have only one control for temperature and some dummy thermostats scattered about) to leaky modern construction. It's kind of maddening to me where I work since it hovers on the cusp of jacket/no jacket.
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When I went on my tour of the Western US, I found that the hotter the weather, the more clothes I needed to carry around to put on indoors to avoid getting a chill!
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How is the library warm enough for a woman to be comfortable in a tank top and shorts?

Huh? Are libraries particularly cold in America or something? What? :psyduck:

In America we are all about wasting energy, and one of the classic ways to to it is to run the air conditioning too high in public buildings.

Anyway I think of tank top and shorts as something you don't even begin to consider until 25 Celsius, and that's with a male BMR.
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My cold tolerance tends to be pretty good, and my heat tolerance pretty poor.

As in, I like to do serious exertion in the 50-60 F range, and I wear a moderately light jacket (one that's thin enough to wear even when it's 70 F out, if it's raining) even when it's below 0 F.
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50-60 is very hot for any serious physical exertion.
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Well, when I'm doing exertion, I usually end up getting sweaty no matter what, and I want nothing covering my head, but my ears will get cold very easily (especially if I'm cycling). The rest of my body is usually fine down to about 30 F (although if it's significantly below freezing, I'll get lung pain).
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