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Dora

4 (5.4%)

Sven

1 (1.4%)

Faye

4 (5.4%)

Tai

3 (4.1%)

Marigold

12 (16.2%)

Hanners

10 (13.5%)

Mieville

1 (1.4%)

Raven

3 (4.1%)

Veronica

1 (1.4%)

Jimbo

1 (1.4%)

Jim

0 (0%)

Padma

0 (0%)

Princess (Sven's cat)

1 (1.4%)

Pintsize

0 (0%)

Yelling Bird

1 (1.4%)

Shame Orb

1 (1.4%)

Harriet

3 (4.1%)

Turkeys (male)

1 (1.4%)

Turkeys (female)

0 (0%)

Other (specify)

2 (2.7%)

OK, Fine, Claire

3 (4.1%)

Oops, forgot Marten

5 (6.8%)

And Momo

11 (14.9%)

Let alone Emily!

6 (8.1%)

Total Members Voted: 69

[Loki]

Now that we've split the thread, I'm intrigued as to Faye's taste in, um, visual relationships.

I assume you mean Dora.

Also, I forgot to mention it, but for a moment Dora looked like Emily to me, and I was confused why Mieville was suddenly there.

[mtmerrick]

Also, I forgot to mention it, but for a moment Dora looked like Emily to me

i thought that too for the first frame  xD

[cesariojpn]

ahem. What have these two done between the two last panels? look at the clock…

 I guess she just played with her pussy, that's all...

Oh Please, kill me....

[TinPenguin]

Also, I forgot to mention it, but for a moment Dora looked like Emily to me

i thought that too for the first frame  xD

So... did you two assume that Emily ran off yesterday not because of anything Clinton said, but because she remembered she had an urgent appointment with sexy dudes totally doing it?

[mtmerrick]

In retrospect what I was meaning to say was the first fans she was actually IN

[Valdís]

Claire is a confusing little puzzle. Calm down, I'm not hating on her or anything, she is pretty awesome. I know that she came out as a trans but I'm not sure if she means transgendered or transexual?

What Zoe said, but also: She is both, but which you use is opt-in (and different outside the Anglosphere). Even some who are transitioning will opt to use Transgender either from preferring it or to avoid stupid stigmas. Such as some people viewing the "sexual" as not meaning "the sexes" or literally just using it as a synonym for "Whore"*. Some will reject Transgender from being associated with things like Crossdressing, which is completely unrelated, but generally under the umbrella.

I probably prefer Transgender myself, despite both being on hormone replacement and living in a country where the word "Gender" doesn't exist.

*I can't speak to its veracity, but another girl told me that in Italy they even use it to mean GAY MALE WHORE, so that's certainly an association I can understand wanting to avoid.

Also - haters are not necessarily assholes. Often they're merely tragically misinformed.

[Unrelated to Candlejack]

Uhm, Zoe, that can be said for literally any social injustice throughout history. Most hateful people are "tragically misinformed". I'd say it depends entirely on how they act. People aren't not-assholes just because they think of themselves as good, or because the groups they're bad towards are sufficiently marginalized by society.

That doesn't mean they can't change, of course. Like I said in some other COMIC-discussion I'm on pretty decent terms with some former bullies. They were still assholes.

[ChaoSera]

Also, I forgot to mention it, but for a moment Dora looked like Emily to me

i thought that too for the first frame  xD

Same here, I was very confused when suddenly Mieville was there.

[cesariojpn]

Wait, is Dora now a "Lipstick Lesbian?" This strip confuses me.

[Arancaytar]

Wait, is Dora now a "Lipstick Lesbian?" This strip confuses me.

She's never been exclusively lesbian...

[Madmartigan]

Wait, is Dora now a "Lipstick Lesbian?" This strip confuses me.

She's never been exclusively lesbian...

She's very much bi-sexual...As evidenced by the fact we know that she's maybe only been with 1 or two other girls previously before Tai.

My head tells me this is Jeph trolling again and Dora is just having some fun-o watching the porno and the kitty-kat made her feel guilty.

After all, Tai is never gonna be interested in dudes. Just curious what Tai would say if she knew Dora liked the yaoi like Marbear does.

Ah so one reason I never thought Tai and Dora were right or made sense comes up.  It may not be anything other than Dora increasingly missing being with men that breaks em up.

I mean, I think Dora will always like the male population.  Especially if her counseling has begun to fix her trust issues with men.  She may have...cravings.

Ok, I'll stop now.

[Indicible]

Reminds me of the whole Erin/Jamie mess in Girls with Slingshots. Dora misses something. Let's just hope Tai is handy with a strapon. We all know Dora does not use a strapon. (That sounded way less awkward in my head...)

[Madmartigan]

Reminds me of the whole Erin/Jamie mess in Girls with Slingshots. Dora misses something. Let's just hope Tai is handy with a strapon. We all know Dora does not use a strapon. (That sounded way less awkward in my head...)

It's QC.  We live on awkwardness.  Though to be fair, there's probably a difference between the ole' strapon and actually being with a bloke.  (Not that I know, I'm not female).  I imagine we'll be seeing this again.  Dora's "missing something" that is.

[Mr_Rose]

Is she "missing something" or just looking at porn?
Being bi is not the same as being a nymphomaniac, nor does it entail an irresistible urge to "even things out" when you're with one or other of the two genders you're interested in.

I find myself strangely disappointed by the display of implicit prejudice here, since today's strip went up.

[Valdís]

just looking at porn

Yeah, I agree. Porn doesn't really need much grounding like that. I mean, it's guy/guy, but that doesn't imply she's transgender either.

Any excuse to post Fresh Meat, though~

[Near Lurker]

I really don't think we're expected to read too much into her choice of porn.  It's just her porn.

Also, I didn't notice the clock until it was pointed out.  Ten hours?  Is the idea supposed to be that she'd expose herself to Mieville by standing up, and so doesn't want to?  Whatever it is, that is one patient cat.  And Dora's legs are going to hurt like fuck tomorrow.

[FunkyTuba]

Also, I forgot to mention it, but for a moment Dora looked like Emily to me

i thought that too for the first frame  xD

Same here, I was very confused when suddenly Mieville was there.

Holy crap! I figured it out: Emily's a shapeshifter! She might be either Dora OR Mieville!

[Somebody]

look at the clock…

Nearly 10 hours?

Jeph's trolling us, knowing the "average" reader won't notice. Since he reuses backgrounds, it takes more effort to change from 6:02 to 3:51 than, say, 6:02 to 6:12...

[RedWolf4]

ahem. What have these two done between the two last panels? look at the clock…

 I guess she just played with her pussy, that's all...

Oh Please, kill me....

I say old chap, good call.

Also, on the porn, I agree, Dora's choice in viewing material is just that.

[Zebediah]

There are lots of guys who like to watch lesbian porn, so why couldn't a woman enjoy watching gay porn?

[Madmartigan]

There are lots of guys who like to watch lesbian porn, so why couldn't a woman enjoy watching gay porn?

As I said, it's likely Jeph was just trolling as showing Dora having the fun with some man porno. 

Though I don't see any reason why Dora, who is very much bi-sexual and has mostly been with guys, couldn't miss male companionship.  Not like it's a far out assumption to make.  But yea, it is a heavy assumption. 

Most likely Dora creeped out by the cat.  Cat's like watching the freaky freaky. Little pervs.

[Neko_Ali]

I would like to point out that one of the most common, and sometimes insulting, myths about bisexual people is that we 'need' both men and women (or others) to be satisfied. That being in a relationship with someone will make us long for or be unfaithful with someone of the other gender than our partner. This is no more likely to happen someone who is hetero or homosexual missing sex with other people.  Neither is watching porn being unfaithful.

I've had people tell me that before, that bisexual people cannot be faithful, they'll always cheat with someone of the opposite sex than their partner. And I can say that for myself, that has never happened. Or for most of the people that I've known who are bi. Being bi doesn't mean you require sex from people of all sorts of genders, just that you can be attracted to people of all sorts of genders...

[ZoeB]

Though to be fair, there's probably a difference between the ole' strapon and actually being with a bloke.  (Not that I know, I'm not female). 

Um.. while prudish, prim and proper as I am, even I know that's no barrier.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bend_Over_Boyfriend

Though I have to say that I don't know either - and I *am* female.

[Madmartigan]

I would like to point out that one of the most common, and sometimes insulting, myths about bisexual people is that we 'need' both men and women (or others) to be satisfied. That being in a relationship with someone will make us long for or be unfaithful with someone of the other gender than our partner. This is no more likely to happen someone who is hetero or homosexual missing sex with other people.  Neither is watching porn being unfaithful.

I've had people tell me that before, that bisexual people cannot be faithful, they'll always cheat with someone of the opposite sex than their partner. And I can say that for myself, that has never happened. Or for most of the people that I've known who are bi. Being bi doesn't mean you require sex from people of all sorts of genders, just that you can be attracted to people of all sorts of genders...

And that isn't what I was saying at all.  Assuming that's what I meant is insulting as well.

It all depends on the degree of bi-sexuality.  I've known people who are a perfect 50/50 split attraction level to both sexes.

I've also known people who self-describe themselves as "hetero-flexible" where, while they have bi-sexual tendencies (i.e. attraction to both sexes and have been intimate with both sexes) they prefer settling down with either say a.) a female or feel more inclined to settle down with b.) a male depending on which one they are attracted the most to and desire a committed relationship with.

[Is it cold in here?]

We do have evidence that Dora is hornier than average, and no evidence that she and Tai are doing anything yet that meets her physical needs.

[Madmartigan]

We do have evidence that Dora is hornier than average, and no evidence that she and Tai are doing anything yet that meets her physical needs.

That's true.  Dora is a horn dog.

[Is it cold in here?]

(moderator)
Everyone's doing a fine job, by the way, but there's a piece of etiquette for dealing with trans people which this is an opportune time to mention.

We've got several ambassador types on the forum who have, to our benefit and with our gratitude, volunteered to answer questions. This is not something to take for granted or to expect from any trans person you've just met -- most of them, I gather, feel frustrated at best and othered at worst by Oh God Not Those Questions Again Why Can't You Just Talk About The Weather Like You Would With Anyone Else.

Again, people are doing quite well at this. The forum should be proud that it is discussing history, religion, mechanical engineering, and the comic while treating people's brain/bits mismatching with the disregard it deserves.
(/moderator)

[Masterpiece]

I seem to remember a scene in "The kids are alright", where a married, lesbian couple choose to watch gay porn instead of lesbian porn because, as they put it, "men can't fake it" and that most lesbian porn is just two hetero women being paid to touch themselves. It's got something to do with not being able to tell, at least physically, if a woman is attracted, whereas with men it's pretty obvious (because, boner).

Also, do watch the movie.

Warning - while you were typing the moderators have complimented your social skills. You will now be modest and feel awkward.

Erm, uhhm, I have to say this, and it's probably been beaten to death already, but thanks for giving me so much knowledge about gender, especially cis- and transgender. I won't know if I'll ever meet somebody who does not identify with his sex, but if I do, I'll now be able to respond to such a situation with much more finesse than I'd ever be able to if I hadn't joined this forum.
Thanks.

[tassaron]

I doubt that Dora's choice of porn means anything. I think it's unlikely that Jeph would write a subplot about Dora "missing men" now that she is in a gay relationship. That scenario isn't impossible, but portraying it would help to perpetuate a common stereotype about it happening to all (or even many) bi women. Jeph would probably try to avoid doing that with his only bi character.

[Loki]

Welcome, new muffin!

[ink slinger]

I doubt that Dora's choice of porn means anything. I think it's unlikely that Jeph would write a subplot about Dora "missing men" now that she is in a gay relationship. That scenario isn't impossible, but portraying it would help to perpetuate a common stereotype about it happening to all (or even many) bi women. Jeph would probably try to avoid doing that with his only bi character.

Indeed. Sometimes, porn is just porn. It may be an outlet for fantasies, but doesn't necessarily reflect real "cravings" or whatever.

Just as some dude who favours porn starring red heads is probably not going to breakup with his brunette girlfriend, Dora isn't going to dump Tai for a dude just because she's in the mood for some man-on-man porn.

Also: I'm pretty sure this is mostly about the cat-making-Dora-feel-awkward joke, guys. The specific type of porn is mostly incidental.

[Neko_Ali]

I'm sorry. My comment wasn't directed at anyone in particular. It was more an explosion for having to deal with that kind of mind set to often...

[judemorrigan]

Consider Dora's reaction in:

http://www.questionablecontent.net/1639

I don't see any reason to read any Big Meaning into today's strip.  I think she's just enjoying some along time with something she enjoys thinking about.  So to speak.

[Pilchard123]

Sometimes a pipe is just a pipe.


Wait, that's not the best quote to use here, is it...

[Is it cold in here?]

Welome, new person!

Your point is well taken.

[cesariojpn]

I doubt that Dora's choice of porn means anything. I think it's unlikely that Jeph would write a subplot about Dora "missing men" now that she is in a gay relationship. That scenario isn't impossible, but portraying it would help to perpetuate a common stereotype about it happening to all (or even many) bi women. Jeph would probably try to avoid doing that with his only bi character.

And I get even more confused. Then again, nobody's ever told me why Yaoi has mixed messages with women (Popular in Japan with women, completely niche and taboo in the USA).

[KOK]

We do have evidence that Dora is hornier than average, and no evidence that she and Tai are doing anything yet that meets her physical needs.

Not really irrefutable evidence, but we have seen them in bed together (2404).

[Mr_Rose]

I doubt that Dora's choice of porn means anything. I think it's unlikely that Jeph would write a subplot about Dora "missing men" now that she is in a gay relationship. That scenario isn't impossible, but portraying it would help to perpetuate a common stereotype about it happening to all (or even many) bi women. Jeph would probably try to avoid doing that with his only bi character.

And I get even more confused. Then again, nobody's ever told me why Yaoi has mixed messages with women (Popular in Japan with women, completely niche and taboo in the USA).

Why are you confused? The answer is simple: the porn people watch is only tangentially related to their sexual preferences and correctly inferring anything about those preferences, or even immediate desires, from a single instance is next to impossible.

Especially in this case where we don't even know the surrounding circumstances; I get the distinct impression that most everyone has already assumed that:
A) this is Dora's laptop
B) she is alone other than Mieville
C) she actively searched for that vid, vice being sent it etc.

For all we know, Tai is asleep on the other half of the bed, that's her laptop that she brought to Dora's for some reason, and Dora just found that video in the browser history…

[pwhodges]

For all we know, Tai is asleep on the other half of the bed,

What "other half" of the bed...?

[DSL]

I figure, viz Dora's taste in matters pornographic, de gustibus non est disputandum and leave it at that. Why should she be required to like or dislike this or that kind of diddly vids? Whatzittoya? A goil, even a pixel goil, can't be curious?

She does, however, seem to be sensitive (and not for the first time) to the (projected) opinion of one particular individual of of the species felis silvestris catus, and therein to me lies the joke of QC Two Thousand Four Hundred and Twenty Nine.

Kind of surprised, really, the fight hasn't already started over whether Dora should or should not be using a MacBook as opposed to a PC laptop. Or even a (gasp) tablet. Now there's a fight to watch. Even more fun to watch than "USS Defiant vs. Millennium Falcon: Who'd win?"

I have more parenthetical phrases and I am not afraid to use them.

EDIT: OK, here's my contribution to the overthink: We know Dora projects her opinions onto Mieville ("No, not murder. You always suggest that") so she lets the cat stand for her slight guilt feelings (because she reads the forums) about watching a guy-on-guy porn site. Not much of an overthink, I admit, but the best I have for now.

EDIT EDIT: Tai's at the foot of the bed, maybe? She is tiny, you know.

[Valdís]

I get the distinct impression that most everyone has already assumed that:
A) this is Dora's laptop

Why yes we did. What-with it outright telling us that in the top-right corner.

(Or do Macs have something else there?)

[Loki]

[...]

Your use of Latin is a major laudandum.

I can confirm that Macs, indeed, do display the account name there. As, I believe, does Ubuntu.

[Masterpiece]

(click to show/hide)

[tassaron]

Windows keeps track of your homies now?

For what it's worth, I'm running Ubuntu 12.10 and it only shows my name if I actually open the power menu. But this is a bit pointless to talk about, since Dora's computer brand is entirely unambiguous in the comic.

_{And thanks to everyone who welcomed me! I should have let my first post be an intro thread so as not to derail the discussion but I kinda forgot that I hadn't posted here yet. I'm dumb like that.}

[Valdís]

@Tassaron: Well, welcome anyway! I never ended up making one either back then.

@Masterpiece: That looks terrible.

[Method of Madness]

Yeah, I still use 7.

[Carl-E]

Hell, I still use 95. 

Sometimes.  On my other laptop.  I was forced into 7 on this one...

[Masterpiece]

@Masterpiece: That looks terrible.

Well, tastes differ, it'd be a sad place if they didn't. I'm glad we have a choice, I chose this.

[Shjade]

Reminds me of the whole Erin/Jamie mess in Girls with Slingshots. Dora misses something.

Not really the same thing since Erin is asexual, but I can see why you'd think of it.

[Valdís]

Well, tastes differ, it'd be a sad place if they didn't. I'm glad we have a choice, I chose this.

Well, that's fine. Didn't even know it was yours, just thought you were mentioning another operating system with it. I wouldn't want to go without regular desktop icons and that stuff.

Also this stationary computer is still on Windows XP, although my laptop is Windows 7. Never been much for jumping into Windows systems and very consciously skipped Vista because some techier friends were saying bad things about its performance at the time. My computers are mediocre enough without that. /shrug

[WAYF]

Cat wants attention!
Now Dora has to make a choice between petting her kitty and... hmm.

(I'm sorry, I've had a long week )