Topic: Detective Comics Cinematic Universe (formerly Man of Steel) (Read 185341 times)

Edguy · « **Reply #200 on:** 22 May 2014, 14:39 »

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Hey, saving a dog is not a bad thing to do. But yeah, by the time Pa Kent had finished saving the words "don't save me", he should've then realized Clark had already zipped over, grabbed him and the pup, and brought them back under the bridge, and nobody would've noticed because he was too fast to see and they were watching the tornado.

Also, that was a very local tornado, which also strongly respects the authority of bridges.

Thrillho · « **Reply #201 on:** 22 May 2014, 14:41 »

Quote from: Method of Madness on 22 May 2014, 14:31

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Hey, saving a dog is not a bad thing to do. But yeah, by the time Pa Kent had finished saving the words "don't save me", he should've then realized Clark had already zipped over, grabbed him and the pup, and brought them back under the bridge, and nobody would've noticed because he was too fast to see and they were watching the tornado.

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Method of Madness · « **Reply #202 on:** 22 May 2014, 14:53 »

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Thrillho · « **Reply #203 on:** 22 May 2014, 15:01 »

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Method of Madness · « **Reply #204 on:** 22 May 2014, 15:04 »

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Thrillho · « **Reply #205 on:** 22 May 2014, 15:14 »

Yep. Which is part of why it was stupid. It was stupid on every level.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #206 on:** 22 May 2014, 15:17 »

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Kugai · « **Reply #207 on:** 22 May 2014, 21:24 »

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Method of Madness · « **Reply #208 on:** 22 May 2014, 22:13 »

Agreed.

Edguy · « **Reply #209 on:** 23 May 2014, 06:09 »

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Blue Kitty · « **Reply #210 on:** 23 May 2014, 14:00 »

He had enough power to snap his neck but not move him away, or tell the people to run?

Welu · « **Reply #211 on:** 23 May 2014, 14:14 »

Superman should have his morals because they're the right thing to do, not because something traumatised him into having them.

Thrillho · « **Reply #212 on:** 23 May 2014, 16:05 »

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Edguy · « **Reply #213 on:** 24 May 2014, 06:10 »

"Right thing to do" is a very subjective value, and subjective values are shaped by events and experiences.

Welu · « **Reply #214 on:** 24 May 2014, 06:19 »

Except when it's Superman, whose job is to actually be better than Earthlings and find a way to do things weaker people aren't capable of doing. I stand by he shouldn't have had an event to cause his principles, he shoułd have them just because they're intrinsic to him. What happened should have been an exception, not an origin.

I'm over simplifying the character a lot but the film did not even get that right about the character, or at least didn't show it.

Thrillho · « **Reply #215 on:** 24 May 2014, 07:00 »

Are just busting out of the spoiler tags then? Are we assuming everyone reading this thread has now seen the film? Question, not a shitty statement.

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Welu · « **Reply #216 on:** 24 May 2014, 07:20 »

I think we're okay to stop doing spoiler tags for the first film, especially when everyone talking at this point in the thread seems to know what we're discussing.

Gareth said what I was failing into words. Cheers, lad.

Thrillho · « **Reply #217 on:** 24 May 2014, 07:21 »

You're welu-come, fella.

Blue Kitty · « **Reply #218 on:** 24 May 2014, 13:24 »

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Superman has been twisted so much by everybody lately, so many of whom seem to think that in order to be relevant he has to be grim and dark and edgy. He’s not. Superman is optimism and hope and goodness - he’s the one who doesn’t have to settle for a solution because it’s ‘realistic’, because no one is that good and audiences won’t relate to it. And that’s when he’s his best. I wish the people at DC would realize that.

Superman isn’t who we are, he’s who we want to be. Or that’s what he should be. We seem to have lost that, though.

Kugai · « **Reply #219 on:** 24 May 2014, 15:08 »

Method of Madness · « **Reply #220 on:** 25 May 2014, 07:12 »

The Nolan trilogy seems to disagree with this. Batman was born Bruce Wayne, so Superman stands alone there, but Bruce Wayne has become the costume.

Edguy · « **Reply #221 on:** 13 Jun 2014, 05:01 »

RUMOR: Warner Bros. to Unveil Seven Film Wave of DC Universe Movies at SDCC

So, allegedly, DC's slate of movies will look like this for the next years:
May 2016 - Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
July 2016 - Shazam (aka Captain Marvel)
Xmas 2016 - Sandman (Neil Gaiman version)
May 2017 - Justice League
July 2017 - Wonder Woman
Xmas 2017 - Flash and Green Lantern team-up
May 2018 - Man of Steel 2

Also, how does Sandman fit into this? I haven't read it, but isn't that a story that's not really connected to the general DC Universe? Is it just a standalone film (if this is real) unrelated to the rest?

Thrillho · « **Reply #222 on:** 13 Jun 2014, 05:03 »

1. What a terrible slate of movies.
2. FUCK YOU DC FOR CHANGING CAPTAIN MARVEL'S NAME TO SHAZAM

SHAZAM IS THE WIZARD'S NAME THAT GAVE HIM HIS POWER

THAT'S FUCKING STUPID

AND CAPTAIN MARVEL IS A BADASS NAME

THE OTHER ONE IS MAR-VELL ANYWAY YOU TWATS

Neko_Ali · « **Reply #223 on:** 13 Jun 2014, 05:43 »

Except for the other characters who were named Captain Marvel.

Thrillho · « **Reply #224 on:** 13 Jun 2014, 05:50 »

So give him a different name that isn't 'Shazam.' Shazam is a dumb name for a badass superhero who is strong enough to beat the shit out of Superman. Come on now.

OH SHIT! IT'S SHAZAM! EVERYONE RUN!

Edguy · « **Reply #225 on:** 13 Jun 2014, 06:53 »

On a sidenote, isn't it pretty weird that they're (supposedly) putting out a Captain Marvel movie as the first movie after Batman/Superman, before the likes of Wonder Woman, Flash and GL? I suppose there could be plot reasons (Really?! Does WB take such things into consideration?), like how will this work together with their TV shows (Arrow & Flash, and Gotham?!). Maybe they're putting off a Flash movie because he will cross over from the TV-show?

Anyways, DC, pls gief J'onn J'onzz. And please kill off Barry Allen & Hal Jordan so we can make space for Wally West and John Stewart. I really like the character dynamic in the animated series, ok?!

Btw, talking about Captain Marvel, and earlier in the Marvel thread, Josh Brolin; wouldn't that be a match?

Pilchard123 · « **Reply #226 on:** 13 Jun 2014, 13:06 »

How about Susan? SUUUUSAAAAAAN!

I think I just scared myself.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #227 on:** 13 Jun 2014, 20:00 »

I thought his name was still Captain Marvel, but they aren't allowed to have the title be Captain Marvel because of copyright bullshit, like they can't put it on the covers of his comics, even if it's still his name within. I could've misread that Cracked article though.

Edguy · « **Reply #228 on:** 14 Jun 2014, 04:09 »

Report: Jason Momoa is Aquaman, will appear in Batman v Superman

Seems like odd casting to me, but, as always, we'll see.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #229 on:** 14 Jun 2014, 06:47 »

Really hoping they go for the DCAU-style of Aquaman (badass king of Atlantis who pretty much claims all of international waters as his domain) as opposed to...any other Aquaman.

Neko_Ali · « **Reply #230 on:** 14 Jun 2014, 07:10 »

I'd be happy with the Brave and the Bold Aquaman.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #231 on:** 14 Jun 2014, 08:31 »

I haven't seen that, but I was thinking of the JLU Aquaman who

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Blue Kitty · « **Reply #232 on:** 14 Jun 2014, 11:46 »

There's only one choice

Thrillho · « **Reply #233 on:** 14 Jun 2014, 13:41 »

I would be very happy if the DCAU Aquaman was the only one that ever existed. They managed to make him pretty badass. Every other incarnation I just don't get.

Edguy · « **Reply #234 on:** 26 Jul 2014, 16:15 »

So, Gal Gadot's Wonder Woman is revieled over at SDCC:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/136438-Dawn-of-Justices-WONDER-WOMAN-Revealed

Anyways, I wish the folks over at DC/WB could take a look at ther Animated Universe, and specifically the two original Justice League seasons. They got so much right, for a kids' show. The characterizations and dynamic, which is such an important part of the Justice League, arguably the entire point (how would all the superheroes interact with each other?), was just.. right.

Just look at some of these scenes:
Bruce isn't always right
Superman lives in a world of cardboard
Flash is awsome, Flash & Substance is my favorite episdoe (get rekt Orion!)

ALSO THEY NEED TO USE THE JUSTICE LEAGUE ANIMATED THEME BECAUSE THAT IS THE BEST THING EVER!!!!

Thrillho · « **Reply #235 on:** 27 Jul 2014, 05:08 »

Costume is good. She's too skinny. But then Hollywood would never cast someone of the correct build.

Welu · « **Reply #236 on:** 27 Jul 2014, 12:02 »

Gail Simone shared an interesting post regarding their size.

Thrillho · « **Reply #237 on:** 27 Jul 2014, 12:12 »

Well that's a very black and white way of looking at it. Also I never said 'weak,' not that you were necessarily throwing an accusation out at me.

Wonder Woman is an amazon.

A quick Google of that definition.

'amazon
An amazon is a big, strong, warrior-like woman, someone who reminds you of the mythical Greek women-warriors, the Amazons.'

Obviously being superpowered means that you don't need to look strong to be strong, that's how these things work. But in that case, why doesn't Superman look like this:

Wonderwoman in the comics looks something like this:

Admittedly, not super muscular, but she's also in the books tall enough to tower over most men and physically wider.

Far as I'm concerned, Wonderwoman in a movie should be someone who looks something like Chyna did 15 years ago or so:

I don't think I'm totally insane in that thought pattern.

Welu · « **Reply #238 on:** 27 Jul 2014, 12:15 »

I agree that I would rather see a WonderWoman more in the realm of looking like Chyna as well but I also admit I was thinking the film WonderWoman looked "frail" which was the exact word in that post, so that's why I thought it was worth sharing.

Welu · « **Reply #239 on:** 27 Jul 2014, 12:19 »

Also those heels are annoying me so much. Other than that, I quite like the design.

Kugai · « **Reply #240 on:** 27 Jul 2014, 15:04 »

Oh, and one more thing never piss WW off on her day off

Edguy · « **Reply #241 on:** 27 Jul 2014, 15:20 »

Question: can Wonder Woman fly? In most recent incarnations she can, in some she can't. It would make her sort of just "female Superman", but on the other hand, making her unable to fly could could make her seem sort of lesser than the Man of Steel and others.. It all really depends on the movie and how it's directed and who's there imo. If for example GL and a lot of other flying heroes are present, it might disempower her a little, not being able to keep up with the ones who can fly.. But if it's only Superman, then I think it's ok for him to have that distinct power. I guess it would also depend on whether the movie has a lot of scenes where flying would be a big advantage.

I suppose they'll let her be able to fly, but I hope they make it somehow distinctive to how Superman flies. While Superman just hovers and defies gravity, maybe they could make her flight a bit more aggressive and affected by gravity? IE, slam down on the ground like a bad-ass while Supes smoothly halts to a stop a foot above the ground.

Kugai · « **Reply #242 on:** 27 Jul 2014, 15:27 »

As you say, it depends on the incarnation.

In the TV Series, she had the Invisible Plane but had no ability to fly herself

I think they gave her that ability in the JL and JLU Series because she was part of a group that, in the majority, had the ability to fly, in JL especially it was Flash and Batman that were basically grounded (and with Bats, that wasn't always the case, even though he used 'Cape Tech' to get airborne occasionally).

Blue Kitty · « **Reply #243 on:** 27 Jul 2014, 16:29 »

She looks very Xena-esque, which leads to this

Lines · « **Reply #244 on:** 27 Jul 2014, 19:43 »

Minus the heels, I love her costume. Certainly better than most of the comic and cartoon versions.

Also re: Sandman movie - I have absolutely no idea how it fits, but damn it I want it so bad. They had better not fuck it up. It's my favorite. T-T

Method of Madness · « **Reply #245 on:** 27 Jul 2014, 20:26 »

Lisa: Wait a minute, Xena can't fly!
LL: I told you, I'm not Xena, I'm Lucy Lawless.
Lisa: Oh.

Blue Kitty · « **Reply #246 on:** 06 Aug 2014, 17:25 »

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Captain America Beats Up Batman, WB Changes Dawn of Justice Release Date
WB flinched. Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is no longer sharing a release date with Captain America 3. Anyone surprised?

Kugai · « **Reply #247 on:** 06 Aug 2014, 19:18 »

Lupercal · « **Reply #248 on:** 11 Aug 2014, 04:45 »

Strange that the DC stuff is all out of whack. When Marvel was just beginning it's MCU plan in 2008 with Iron Man and Hulk, we hit peak Batman (Dark Knight), and new lows of X-Men (Origins, 2009). I'm not surprised they don't want to contend with any "big" names from the MCU. Especially another sequel.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #249 on:** 11 Aug 2014, 18:57 »

Ehhh...I wouldn't say Origins was worse than X3.

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