Topic: Detective Comics Cinematic Universe (formerly Man of Steel) (Read 192052 times)

Kugai · « **Reply #300 on:** 25 Apr 2015, 21:31 »

I think the hard thing is that Heath Ledger set a whole new bar for The Joker that's gonna be VERY hard to follow.

Kugai · « **Reply #301 on:** 25 Apr 2015, 23:57 »

Here's a question for you

What if Man Of Steel were in colour?

Welu · « **Reply #302 on:** 27 Apr 2015, 09:43 »

Quote from: Kugai on 25 Apr 2015, 21:31

I think the hard thing is that Heath Ledger set a whole new bar for The Joker that's gonna be VERY hard to follow.

I think that's why they're going for something so different to try and make the new one stand on its own as much as possible from the start.

It kind of reminds me of that awesome Joker cosplayer, Anthony Misiano.

Neko_Ali · « **Reply #303 on:** 27 Apr 2015, 10:02 »

But when you do that you have to be careful not to go to far, make to many changes. Otherwise the character becomes barely recognizable for who he is.

Which is pretty much what the DCAU has been doing with just about everyone who isn't named 'Batman' for many years now....

Method of Madness · « **Reply #304 on:** 27 Apr 2015, 10:13 »

How so? I haven't really seen any DCAU in the past decade (since JLU ended).

Neko_Ali · « **Reply #305 on:** 27 Apr 2015, 10:20 »

See all the flak over the last Superman movie, that is I guess the first of the official DCAU. I don't think they are using the continuity from the Nolan Batman films? Also see the last of those films, especially Bane's changes. Then look at all the characters who have been revealed so far. Tattooed punk Aquaman and tattooed punk Joker....

Method of Madness · « **Reply #306 on:** 27 Apr 2015, 10:57 »

Oh! No, DCAU = DC Animated Universe (Batman/Superman: the Animated Series, Justice League, etc). I guess that's why your post confused me.

I guess the MoS is the first of the DCCU?

Neko_Ali · « **Reply #307 on:** 27 Apr 2015, 11:02 »

yeah.. I realized I was getting the acronyms wrong.. DCMU should have been. The animated universe stuff has been consistently awesome when they aren't cancelling it for stupid reasons. I'm not sure I would put the Teen Titans Go into the DCAU though. The tone of it is way different than things like Justice League, the various movies or Young Justice. I wish the live movie people would take a few pages from the animated movie people...

Method of Madness · « **Reply #308 on:** 27 Apr 2015, 12:32 »

Movie Universe instead of Cinematic Universe?

That being said, I agree. Hell, I would love if Kevin Conroy were Batman in a live action movie.

Kugai · « **Reply #309 on:** 27 Apr 2015, 13:44 »

Method of Madness · « **Reply #310 on:** 27 Apr 2015, 15:16 »

He isn't wearing hockey pants.

Kugai · « **Reply #311 on:** 27 Apr 2015, 21:46 »

That's Hockey PADS

Method of Madness · « **Reply #312 on:** 27 Apr 2015, 21:54 »

So I've heard, but I remember hearing hockey pants, and hockey pants is SO MUCH FUNNIER. So fuck everyone, it's hockey pants.

Lines · « **Reply #313 on:** 28 Apr 2015, 18:20 »

Apparently the Joker is not actually going to be a juggalo (which swipe tried to spell as jello, haha!). I'm mildly relieved.

But really, I wish they would have just hired that cosplayer Welu linked. Nothing against Leto, as I've only seen him in like 3 movies, but what I did see of his actual costume was not as good as the cosplay.

Neko_Ali · « **Reply #314 on:** 28 Apr 2015, 20:36 »

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they saw the massive blow-back on his look and scrambled to make changes. Which is the second smartest thing they could have done. You just don't release a promotional image of a character with a 'here's a first look folks!' if that wasn't pretty much what he was going to look like. So the only logical answer to me is that they saw the reaction and went 'oh crap' into PR crisis mode.

hazlett · « **Reply #315 on:** 28 Apr 2015, 20:58 »

I still like the original movie though this remake have lots of visual effects than the original.

Blue Kitty · « **Reply #316 on:** 03 May 2015, 16:14 »

Edguy · « **Reply #317 on:** 03 May 2015, 16:49 »

Woah Will Smith looks pretty badass!

Kugai · « **Reply #318 on:** 07 May 2015, 23:15 »

And on a further note, it's apparently confirmed there will be a Supergirl Live Action Series

http://www.epictimes.com/2015/05/supergirl-gets-green-light-at-cbs-for-2015-2016-season/

Blue Kitty · « **Reply #319 on:** 17 May 2015, 09:05 »

Method of Madness · « **Reply #320 on:** 17 May 2015, 09:53 »

"Capes are lame, tell your cousin I said so. Actually, never, never do that."

That guy's a shit, but that was a good line

My one complaint? They didn't get Portia de Rossi to play Kara's boss.

Blue Kitty · « **Reply #321 on:** 17 May 2015, 09:56 »

My only complaint is that they should make the costume lighter, the same complaint I had with Man of Steel's costume

Neko_Ali · « **Reply #322 on:** 17 May 2015, 13:56 »

And here I thought I couldn't love Fergus any more... I was wrong.

Blue Kitty · « **Reply #323 on:** 22 May 2015, 13:45 »

This hurts my soul

Neko_Ali · « **Reply #324 on:** 22 May 2015, 14:09 »

I'm afraid to ask what that's from...

Torlek · « **Reply #325 on:** 22 May 2015, 17:51 »

Something that should have been abandoned to the sands of time. The 90's were a really bad time for superheros.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #326 on:** 22 May 2015, 22:56 »

Dang, that was only 3 years before X-Men.

ChaoSera · « **Reply #327 on:** 28 May 2015, 03:17 »

I just saw Men of Steel for the first time yesterday (Yes, that late). I honestly liked the parts on Krypton by far the most, the rest was kinda boring, despite the good action scenes. My opinion might be somewhat biased because I was never a fan of Superman but I would love to see a movie playing out just on Krypton.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #328 on:** 28 May 2015, 04:36 »

I forget if I've said this in this thread but damn it, I want a Red Son movie.

BenRG · « **Reply #329 on:** 28 May 2015, 07:15 »

Quote from: Method of Madness on 28 May 2015, 04:36

I want a Red Son movie.

Best ending of an alternate universe Superman story.

Ever.

Of all time.

I loved Superman's last words to Lex Luthor. Utterly chilling but also the words of one chess-playing genius megalomaniac to another.

mikmaxs · « **Reply #330 on:** 28 May 2015, 10:11 »

I wouldn't have minded the Krypton scenes if they weren't so incredibly pointless and irrelevant. We learn that: 1, Zod is a bad guy, which shouldn't take half an hour to establish and 2, Superman was a baby from Krypton sent to earth, which we already knew.

Ultimately, it was the poorly assembled plot and poorly assembled final fight that killed the movie for me.

Edguy · « **Reply #331 on:** 28 May 2015, 11:29 »

The Krypton scenes were WAAAAY too long. This movie had too much Russell Crowe. If they had taken half the time spent with Russell Crowe on Krypton, or speaking with Russell Crowe's ghost on various space ships, and instead spent that time on Clark growing up and traveling the country, then I think it would have been a much better movie.

The story of Clark traveling around searching for himself, becoming somewhat of an urban legend, and all that (y'know the stuff that was actually advertised in the trailers) sounded like a much better movie than what we actually got.

Blue Kitty · « **Reply #332 on:** 08 Jun 2015, 14:42 »

Neko_Ali · « **Reply #333 on:** 08 Jun 2015, 15:10 »

Definitely going for a much darker take. I mean.. I liked the video. The fan girl in me just wishes they hadn't used Harley Quinn as the villain here. Though I could honestly see her insanity going there had circumstances of her life been different, as they clearly were. But I'm not sure she would have taken the Harley Quinn look and identity like that without the Joker to tip it off. There is her name of course, that could be enough to set up a 'Harley Quinn' identity. But her crimes and insanity don't fit the motif...

Kugai · « **Reply #334 on:** 08 Jun 2015, 15:19 »

Well!!

He certainly was a BATman

Neko_Ali · « **Reply #335 on:** 08 Jun 2015, 18:14 »

It's also not Bruce in this world, but Kirk Langstrom (Man-Bat on Earth-1) who turned himself into a vampire. I get the feeling he doesn't have a lot of 'repeat' villains....

http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/8/8746607/justice-league-gods-and-monsters-batman

LeeC · « **Reply #336 on:** 12 Jul 2015, 14:36 »

LeeC · « **Reply #337 on:** 14 Jul 2015, 04:15 »

Lines · « **Reply #338 on:** 14 Jul 2015, 11:15 »

Viola Davis is a boss. Joker still looks like a juggalo and I'm not happy about it. Harley looks like she'll be interesting.

Neko_Ali · « **Reply #339 on:** 14 Jul 2015, 11:43 »

I don't know... I just can't get that excited about the movies, no matter how much I may like to. Sure the 'Grim Dark and Gritty' feel DC has been doing with it's movies first for Batman and Suicide Squad. But not everyone else. It just makes the whole superhero thing seem dreary. I find the timing of releasing Suicide Squad to be odd as well. Unless I'm wrong, this is another setting reboot. Nolan's Batman films are not canon. The DC television series are not canon. Batman seems to have existed in some form before Superman made his big public appearance, going by the videos. But didn't seem that big a deal. So there have apparently been very few super heroes publicly known... Why is Waller gathering a bunch of super villains? Most of which just aren't super. They're highly trained and/or insane criminals... but not super. Only Killer Croc and Enchantress seem to have any powers, the rest are just good fighters with weapons. I suppose it could be waved that these were people Batman fought before.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #340 on:** 14 Jul 2015, 11:47 »

Wait, maybe I'm misreading it, but from the look of the BvS trailer, Batman's inspired to become Batman as a response to Superman.

LeeC · « **Reply #341 on:** 14 Jul 2015, 12:09 »

Quote from: Method of Madness on 14 Jul 2015, 11:47

Wait, maybe I'm misreading it, but from the look of the BvS trailer, Batman's inspired to become Batman as a response to Superman.

Nope, he was already Batman, thats why he looks at the Robin suit thats all torn up with the Joker's writing all over it. Lots of people think it was Jason Todd. This is more like perhaps he is taking up the cowl again.

Neko_Ali · « **Reply #342 on:** 14 Jul 2015, 12:32 »

It does seem somewhat implied in the trailer, but he already had the gear by the looks of it. It was just in storage maybe. Which is also odd, the idea that Batman would ever give it up, even for a while. Being Batman is kind of the core part of his identity.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #343 on:** 14 Jul 2015, 12:35 »

Well he was Batman in Gotham, now he's going to Metropolis, maybe?

LeeC · « **Reply #344 on:** 14 Jul 2015, 12:56 »

That could be too. Like instead of retiring, he's just transferring for now. JL by the end of the movie me thinks.

Kugai · « **Reply #345 on:** 14 Jul 2015, 15:19 »

Throw Diana, daughter of Hippolyte into the mix, and I think you're right.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #346 on:** 14 Jul 2015, 18:43 »

She showed up for like half a second, I wish we could see more.

Lines · « **Reply #347 on:** 14 Jul 2015, 19:56 »

Quote from: Neko_Ali on 14 Jul 2015, 11:43

Why is Waller gathering a bunch of super villains?

In canon, it's a response to the Justice League. Which makes sense. I don't really know why they're doing this movie before any actual Justice League movies, because I feel like responding just to Superman, and to an extent Batman, feels premature.

Also in regards to powers, there are a lot of people in this universe that don't have powers.

Neko_Ali · « **Reply #348 on:** 14 Jul 2015, 20:17 »

I guess I wasn't clear enough. Why now, when there are almost no known super powered individuals, is she recruiting a team of mostly crazy but talented normals to do black ops instead of you know.. Turning to the government's black ops teams. She doesn't have the reasoning that they are needed to deal with super powered threats or political enemies that they can't touch with normal troops. It can't be to stop Superman. None of the Suicide Squad could even touch him. Batman? Maybe. But why recruit his rogue's gallery, when he probably put them in jail in the first place. There just isn't a reason given yet why they would need the Suicide Squad, or even why someone would think up the idea. The only thing I can think of is they plan to send them on literal suicide missions, because they are 'expendable assets'. For anything else, the ordinary military could do what they can do, almost certainly better and with less risk involved.

Lines · « **Reply #349 on:** 15 Jul 2015, 03:46 »

Like I said, is supposed to be a response to The Justice League (which isn't formed yet in the movie universe), so her forming it is too premature. I don't know if you ever watched the animated series (it's on Netflix and is one of the best DC animated series imo), but why she's doing it is because she doesn't trust all of these god-like superheroes taking things in their own hands with no one overseeing them. Her reason for villains is stated in the trailer: they have a scapegoat if need be, they won't have an issue with more questionable missions, and if they die... Who will care? The benefit to the villains is reduced sentences for jail time.

Doing the movie now I'm assuming is just to attract more viewers? Canonically it doesn't make sense to do it before a Justice League movie. I think they're trying to complete with all of the big cast Marvel movies planned.

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