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The Angel of Peas!

3 (3.9%)

Give peas a chance!

15 (19.5%)

Peas cannot be achieved through violence.

9 (11.7%)

Imagine whirled peas.

6 (7.8%)

A vision of peas with a Birdseye view.

3 (3.9%)

Peas on hurt; goodwill to all sentient beings.

5 (6.5%)

+5 soothe pain, -5 cause light frostbite.

9 (11.7%)

No justice - no peas.

5 (6.5%)

Peas porridge hot - no Earl Gray.

2 (2.6%)

Peas porridge cold - with a side of waffles.

6 (7.8%)

Space ham and peas?

3 (3.9%)

Can we peas stop the puns?

11 (14.3%)

Total Members Voted: 72

[Loki]

Another major reveal?

We have had what... three or four of them tops? I shall count the major twists of the story.

Don't read spoiler if you haven't read all the comics

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Major reveals have a doomy glow.

* The TALK
* Dora kisses Marten
* Dora is bi (okay, that wasn't really major)
* Marten gets fired (okay, this wasn't really major either)
* Somewhere inbetween: Marten tells story of himself and Vicky
* Faye and Sven
* Faye and Angus
* (Edited in: Martendad wants to marry)
* Dora and Marten break up
* Padma reveals she is leaving
* Station asks Hanners to stay in space
* Claire reveals she is trans

[Smallest]

I think more than the 'that'll,' the nuzzle-y nature of Marten should be considered ship material.

[Valdís]

I think more than the 'that'll,' the nuzzle-y nature of Marten should be considered ship material.

Yeah, dude's totally smelling her hair.

[pwhodges]

Well, back in the day Faye let Marten hug her (just the once, and he missed the chance of a second go) - and look where that led.

[Is it cold in here?]

You think someone who could judge character wouldn't date Marten? Or just that Claire shouldn't?

He makes a wonderful friend. None of his friendships have ever ended. All of his romantic relationships have. He's too aimless to be a life partner.

She could do worse than dating Marten, but she couldn't do better than having him as a close friend.

[Method of Madness]

All of his romantic relationships have.

I don't really see that as a meaningful statement. If you're monogamous, then all of your romantic relationships end...until one doesn't. As far as we know, he's only had two girlfriends, one of which was a college relationship that wasn't as serious as he thought it was. Not a remarkably good or bad track record, really. You could count Padma, but that was more of a fling that both wanted to go somewhere, but circumstances made them both fuck it up.

[Zebediah]

And, arguably, Marten wasn't the one who screwed things up with Dora either. And they're able to be friends again now, which says a lot about him. So no, Marten's not a total loser at romantic relationships.

[Method of Madness]

I figure it's more of a reason to be his friend than a reason not to date him. But like Zeb said, Dora proves that they don't have to be mutually exclusive (she was his friend before dating him and is his friend after).

[K1dmor]

Everybody say it with me now.. Dawwwwwwwww <3

*Must not jump back on the shipping train*
ach, who am I kidding.

*Ahem*. Dawwwwwwwwww <3

"Yeah, that'll happen"

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That'll

That will

BECAUSE THERE WILL BE MORE HUGS IN THE FUTURE
BECAUSE THEY'LL HUG ALL THE TIME
AND THEN MAKE KISS FACES.
AND MAKE MARTEN CLAIRE BABIES AND HAVE A HOUSE AND A LAWN AND A DOG AND A SWIMMING POOL

sorry

I think more than the 'that'll,' the nuzzle-y nature of Marten should be considered ship material.

Yeah, dude's totally smelling her hair.

 

[Zebediah]

Look, none of this means anything. We all know, from experience, that the one and only indicator of the potential success of a long-term relationship in the QCverse is whether or not the two people involved have the same favorite Toto song. If they don't, the clock is ticking on the relationship. So unless Claire likes "Rosanna" we can forget about it.

[Boiled Dove]

But Dora had the only acceptable answer.

*runs and hides from potential backlash*

[cesium133]

Has anyone asked Tai her opinion on Toto?

[Zebediah]

Hm... I suppose if Tai also thought Toto sucked, she and Dora would technically have the same favorite Toto song: None of them.

[Method of Madness]

Which means my ideal QC match is...Pintsize?

[Storel]

Which means my ideal QC match is...Pintsize?

Which explains your avatar.

[Method of Madness]

Tally-ho.

[Mad Cat]

Ginger hair always has an agenda of its own. Usually one based on murder and mayhem.

[Rghfrgl]

 It goes up the nose and makes it's way to the mouth from there.

[Method of Madness]

I'd say her hair is too dark to be considered "ginger".

[Storel]

I'd say her hair is too dark to be considered "ginger".

Yes, it's much closer to "auburn" than "ginger".

[Kugai]

I'd say her hair is too dark to be considered "ginger".

Yes, it's much closer to "auburn" than "ginger".

This Post approved by Captain Katherine Janeyway.

[Xthform]

As a long time reader I honestly don't see this arc going anywhere I want it to go. As a staple of almost any webcomic I have ever read (VGcats being the sole expection) the writers seem far to concerned with public image to let this sort of relationship/racy situation see the light of day. As much as I love Jeph and quite a few other Webcomic writers they are at best a timid bunch when it comes to highly controversial topics. This arc will end with Marten and Claire being friends/close friends and nothing more. I simply do not see the backbone in Jeph to write this out to an interesting place.



If Scott Ramsoomair has the gale to write this comic http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=270 why can't Jeph make a comic where a pre op trans gender character has a relationship with a member of their current pre op sex.


This arc will be the deciding factor on whether or not Jeph has any balls of which to speak of.

[K1dmor]

New comic.

 Yeah, there's no way she could do that    .

[Loki]

Emily is Woyzeck.

[Lubricus]

"Got into a fight with Claire"? Have we been deprived of humourous action?

[GarandMarine]

Karma's a bitch Clinton.

New odd ball theory: Emily is Randy in human form.

[Sorflakne]

"Got into a fight with Claire"? Have we been deprived of humourous action?

I seem to remember that the last time we saw Emily she was running away from Clinton for some reason after finding him weird or something, so I thought she came back and decked him to make sure he wasn't a Terminator.  And then on realizing her error, she got an icepack out to help him recover.

I was wrong

[Lubricus]

Too bad, Sorflakne, that would have been excellent! 

[Is it cold in here?]

This arc will be the deciding factor on whether or not Jeph has any balls of which to speak of.

No, it will simply either be funny or not funny. Jeph is not here to serve our agendas (moderator) and insulting your host is bad manners(/moderator).

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So, Emily is the Angel of Peas?

[Kugai]

Emily is living proof of Chaos Theory.

[Method of Madness]

I seem to remember that the last time we saw Emily she was running away from Clinton for some reason after finding him weird or something

That's not why she ran away.

[Is it cold in here?]

So what were Claire and Clinton fighting about?

[westrim]

I guess Emily decided that for lunch, she would give peas a chance.

[GarandMarine]

So what were Claire and Clinton fighting about?

I'd assume he means he stuck his foot down his throat and gave Claire her panic attack.

[Sidhekin]

I guess Emily decided that for lunch, she would give peas a chance.

Peas cannot be achieved through violence.

[Is it cold in here?]

Does anyone have a mental picture of the peas being whirled around?

[TimO]

Karma's a bitch Clinton.  ...

Well, the universe giving Clinton a good whack on Claire's behalf does avoid Claire being seen as any sort of bad party, should her wrath be used against him, not that this is necessarily precluded, but I suspect this is all that we'll see in terms of Clinton being chided for his mistaken action.

[FunkyTuba]

Does anyone have a mental picture of the peas being whirled around?

Yes, a Birds Eye view

[ChaoSera]

"Got into a fight with Claire"? Have we been deprived of humourous action?

I seem to remember that the last time we saw Emily she was running away from Clinton for some reason after finding him weird or something, so I thought she came back and decked him to make sure he wasn't a Terminator.  And then on realizing her error, she got an icepack out to help him recover.

I was wrong

Oh good, I wasn't the only one who thought this.

[bryntheskits]

If Scott Ramsoomair has the gale to write this comic http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=270 why can't Jeph make a comic where a pre op trans gender character has a relationship with a member of their current pre op sex.

The last time something non-PC happened the extreme Tumblr feminist underbelly caught a wiff of it, came out and drove him to the drink which ended in him stabbing himself, and that was only because there was one of the characters had low self-esteem. What do you think they would do if he "insulted" them a second time?

In the end Jeph has the final say in what happens and all we can do is speculate and not insult him because you "don't see this arc going anywhere I want it to go."

[westrim]

You know who we need to see again? Jimbo. We probably haven't seen him lately since he was an author avatar.

[ZoeB]

Confiding in Marten in the first place suggests that Claire is a good judge of character.

If she is, then she'll realize that Marten is a better choice for a Just A Really Good Friend than for a romantic partner.

For her, maybe. What about for him?
The two sets {Really Good Friend} and {Romantic Partner} are not disjoint - which is why you said Just a Really Good Friend. I'll withold judgment on the "just" bit. Everyone seems to be concerned about Claire's welfare - which is really nice of them. I'm trying to think about Marten's too, his life hasn't been easy.

[Akima]

If you're monogamous, then all of your romantic relationships end...until one doesn't.

Some romantic relationships last longer than others, but they all end.

Karma's a bitch Clinton.

Peas on hurt; goodwill to all sentient beings.

[ZoeB]

In the last panel, we find out they switched bodies.

Which might be confusing, because today's strip involved a person whom already switched bodies. To their actual body from a wrong body. Despite never switching before.

Real life is stranger than fiction.

+1 Insightful and well put too.
i wonder if it could be accurately described as a casemod?

Meanwhile... I'm trying to imagine what it would be like to be in a chassis like Gordon's. Sort of a "+4 Dex, -15 Cha". How much of our opinions are based on appearances? Can we look behind someone's eyes, to see them rather than their body? Can we overcome our prejudices - though that's a bit of a tall order, I should de-scope.  Let's try "can I overcome my prejudices" based on appearance?

[bhtooefr]

Actually, Zoe, you just made me think of something interesting...

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1799
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2371

Both Dora and Claire have severe hangups about fidelity.

If Jeph does decide to explore a relationship between Marten and Claire, there could be some damn interesting storytelling, as a contrast to Dora. Dora had to be THREATENED WITH PHYSICAL VIOLENCE to get help for her issues, we haven't seen whether Claire has or not, but presumably not.

[GarandMarine]

Karma's a bitch Clinton.

Peas on hurt; goodwill to all sentient beings.

As an Avatar of the Universal Powers of Hate and Discontent I don't think I'm legally allowed to express support for this sentiment. I suppose I'll have to check my contract later.

@Zoe: As someone who's done a lot of overcoming the past year, I don't think I'd ever get over my inborn automatic response of trying to kill Gordon with the nearest heavy object. Then again I'm so ridiculously arachnophobic it probably qualifies as something more severe....

@bhtooefr: I don't think Claire has the same level of severe hang ups Dora does. Fidelity yes, but Dora's are connected to some serious self worth issues. Claire obviously doesn't like the idea of cheaters or cheating in a monogamous relationship, and she has some anxiety issues, but that doesn't translate to Dora's screwed up psyche. Personal opinion: Claire's one of the most stable members of the cast. Not that that's a particularly hard competition to win...

[Border Reiver]

Claire's up there for stability with Marten and Angus.

No justice - no peas.

[cesariojpn]

If Scott Ramsoomair has the gale to write this comic http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=270 why can't Jeph make a comic where a pre op trans gender character has a relationship with a member of their current pre op sex.

If only Scott Ramsoomair would bother to POST a damn strip at least once a week instead of this wishy-washy schedule, perhaps your argument would hold some weight.

[Zebediah]

Meanwhile... I'm trying to imagine what it would be like to be in a chassis like Gordon's. Sort of a "+4 Dex, -15 Cha". How much of our opinions are based on appearances? Can we look behind someone's eyes, to see them rather than their body? Can we overcome our prejudices - though that's a bit of a tall order, I should de-scope.  Let's try "can I overcome my prejudices" based on appearance?

Ah prejudice, it's a pain in the ass. Especially when it's your own prejudice that you're trying to overcome and you know you're behaving stupidly, but you still can't shake the automatic response.

Me, I'd pick an arachnoPC for my companion-anthroPC given the option. Gordon is cool. And he probably has all kinds of useful hardware functions. 

[ZoeB]

@Zoe: As someone who's done a lot of overcoming the past year, I don't think I'd ever get over my inborn automatic response of trying to kill Gordon with the nearest heavy object. Then again I'm so ridiculously arachnophobic it probably qualifies as something more severe....

I've had to eject two Huntsman spiders from the premisses recently. Catch and Release.
They can give a nasty bite, hurts and bleeds a lot.

I've also dealt with two redbacks. Their bites would be (not could be, would be)  fatal to my in-laws, both in their 90s. Those arachnids didn't get caught, they got neutralised with extreme prejudice.

Was I scared? Terrified, actually. But it needed doing.

One can, to some degree, overcome one's instincts. It helps to know that those instincts are causing you to act counterproductively, and this is important dammit!.

Catching the huntsmen - both as big as my hand - gave me the screaming meemies. After transition, I acquired arachnophobia I didn't have before - some neural re-wiring from the hormones I guess. That was unexpected, and I only became aware of it when visiting a friend's house, seeing his "dangerous spider recognition chart" (as I'd seen many times before without thinking anything more than "how useful") and nearly screaming.

The joys of living in Australia.

My bet is that if Gordon's life was in danger, and you knew for a fact that he was a person, you'd pick him up and take him to safety. THEN collapse in a screaming heap. Amnesia-inducing drugs would be appropriate therapy.