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"Xbox One" - NOT always-online, restricts used games.

Heavy reliance on Kinect 2.0 too.

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or you can say "Xbox, show fantasy" to see your fantasy basketball stats while watching LeBron James score.

I think it's going to bring up some pretty nasty porn for some people

8GB RAM, Blu-ray, USB 3.0, WiFi direct, "silent" operation. 500 GB HDD.

No backwards compatibility. No real 'news' here - but a console launch isn't going to have much in terms of games or gameplay. I'm not sure if you can actually play used games on this thing either, seeing as a game connects to your 'account', which is stored/attached to a cloud. You pay a fee if you want a game connected to a second account. It all seems like "plug and play" is probably out of the window for the next generation of consoles. Oh, and developers can choose weather you have to be always online for their game or not. (Sounds like a terrible idea based on Sim City 5, which was  CHOICE that EA made).

Ugly controller? Same as before? You decide.


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Re: New Xbox unveils most uninspired name ever
« Reply #1 on: 21 May 2013, 14:02 »

I kinda like the name, XBOX ONE, or the idea behind it. I mean, what they are really trying to say with the name is that you'll only need one system for everything TV-related, no?

Personally, I was a bit appalled at all those marketing videos, seriously Microsoft, just don't. Also, WHY THE HELL DID YOU LET ELECTRONIC ARTS ON YOUR STAGE.

In terms of games, I have seen absolutely ZIT, which is somewhat disappointing.

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Re: New Xbox unveils most uninspired name ever
« Reply #3 on: 21 May 2013, 15:26 »

I can imagine using that exploit in multiplayer games, just going "XBOX, off".

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« Reply #4 on: 21 May 2013, 15:51 »

Day[9] posted a link to this fun statistic on facebook today:

http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=SNE
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« Reply #5 on: 21 May 2013, 16:04 »

So far, to me at least, it seems like they shot themselves in the foot.
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Re: New Xbox unveils most uninspired name ever
« Reply #6 on: 21 May 2013, 16:27 »

 I'm with Blue Kitty on this one. I watched the stream and i can't believe it.

・No backwards compatibility (Live, disc or anything).
・Plays used games if you pay again a fee:
  -- The game is linked to you Live Account, that means that you have to be connected so the console detects if the game is registered, to register again or to pay.

・No gameplay footage on the presentation.
・Call Of Duty : Ghosts. The engine didn't improve, almost anything. The faces looks plain and the eyes are static (even in the CGI!).

 The controller of the 360 is confy; they mantain the same design but integrate the battery inside it. That's a +1.
・ Kinect:
 ---Not a huge fan of it, but the 2.0 looks promising. 1080p, 60º larger field, accurate skeleton mapping, up to six people can be on screen at once; the rest (voice recognition, IR, etc) are not somethin new, but they're upgraded.
 I hope the modding and homebrew community can make awesome things with it.

・ The TV functions:
 -- Only available for US (at least the first couple months after release).
 -- You NEED to buy a separate device that it's selled apart the console. Then you plug the Cable TV on it, and from there a HDMI output in the console.

 The system is built to work even if your internet connection goes down, but you still have to be connected at least once a day to use it, according to Phil Harrison (Microsoft vice president)
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Re: New Xbox unveils most uninspired name ever
« Reply #7 on: 21 May 2013, 17:33 »



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Re: New Xbox unveils most uninspired name ever
« Reply #8 on: 21 May 2013, 17:37 »

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« Reply #9 on: 21 May 2013, 18:34 »

At first I wanted to balk at the used games bit, but really that's just a harbinger of the obsolescence of physical media.  I imagine they're probably going to start pressing pretty hard on digital distribution, hopefully to the point that you can digitally buy a new title on release day.  I hate the pricks at brick and mortar stores so I haven't been in one in years myself, and don't really care if they go the way of the dodo.  I have Amazon for all of that.  The only thing I worry about is how rental companies will swing it.  Most of the games I play these days come from Gamefly, unless it's just something I really want to have on release day, which isn't often.
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Re: New Xbox unveils most uninspired name ever
« Reply #10 on: 21 May 2013, 20:42 »

So far, I've heard nothing that really makes me want to buy one.  My 360 works just fine, and if it isn't backwards-compatible, I don't see any point in replacing my current console, at least not immediately.  I can wait on new games.  I've got plenty I haven't finished yet, and so far, I haven't heard of any new titles that I NEED!

I've also got no stake in console wars, and never owned a PS3 (my PS2 is gathering dust), but I'm not going to make a next-gen decision until both are out.  Even if it means sacrificing my pretty substantial XBOX gamerscore.  If I buy a game, I just want to bring it home and bloody play it, regardless of how good my internet connection is, or whether or not it's used. 
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« Reply #11 on: 21 May 2013, 21:25 »

 This video resume all the conference highlights just for you =3:

 


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« Reply #12 on: 22 May 2013, 04:11 »

This reveal was a bit of a disaster to me. While the PS4 didn't do anything groundbreaking, other than show and prove a hell of a lot of support for the indie community, they basically confirmed not having many of the worst features we were hearing rumors about this gen getting. MS basically confirmed all of them.

There is also the issue that Sony at least had real hardware reasons for not including Backwards Compatibility. MS has no such excuse here.
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Re: New Xbox unveils most uninspired name ever
« Reply #13 on: 22 May 2013, 05:10 »

"We're going to pack a computer running a modified Windows into a box, but it's not going to run the same games as the older computer running a modified Windows into a box. But don't worry, you can at least watch TV on this computer in a box, after you plug it into your TV".

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« Reply #14 on: 22 May 2013, 08:06 »

Backwards compatibility isn't that big of a deal to me, and I don't really see why anyone tries to make it one.  If you own a 360 now, then you have a device to run those games on, and if you don't, why do you care about backwards compatibility?  A lot more goes into making a console backwards compatible than most people think, and I'd rather they spent those resources on other features, myself.
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« Reply #15 on: 22 May 2013, 08:36 »

Nowadays the hardware is powerful enough to run games from previous generations purely on emulation. I don't own an xbox now, but if I did want a console I would be much more tempted to buy this if it meant it also let me play the best games of the previous decade.
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« Reply #16 on: 22 May 2013, 08:36 »

what's more important is support of the indie crowd, and in that regard Microsoft is still incomprendibly stupid and doesn't do anything.

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« Reply #17 on: 22 May 2013, 10:39 »

After having 24 hours to think about things I'm a little more comfortable with what's been announced so far, though I do have some issues. I've been talking about this pretty much non-stop so it's helped me run through things a little more as I've done so. Everything I'm saying here I have seen online unless specifically identified otherwise but unfortunately I don't have links to hand. I can go on a history crawl and edit them in later though if folk are interested.

Firstly in terms of actual direct comparisons, system wise, it seems like there won't be much differentiating between the 2 systems. Both are 8 core CPU - though Sony have confirmed the actual architecture of their CPUs where MS haven't, both 8gb RAM, both Blu-Ray, 802.11g wireless etc etc. MS confirmed a 500Gb HDD whereas Sony have not specified the HDD size though it doesn't seem unreasonable to assume it's going to match up.

Neither system is supporting backwards compatibility with both manufacturers citing hardware as the stumbling block; the system architecture and processing is so radically different the games will simply be unable to function. I did see a comment from MS stating that SOME games will function on the XBone (yep) which suggests to me they're potentially being disingenuous about the situation, but there we go.

The big difference to me is the vision and direction the manufacturers have put down on the line now. Yesterday's reveal seemed to me to be Microsoft saying "Here is the next Xbox" whereas Sony's conference seemed to say "Here is the future of console gaming". Nothing Microsoft came out with really took me by surprise - the 360 and the dashboard as it stands have been making that move towards becoming an entertainment system for a long time and I wasn't expecting the new iteration to do anything but build on that. In that regard Sony seem to have acknowledged that they are producing a games console, to play games with. I don't really think MS said anything I could call objectively bad but I think they've left themselves a lot of work to do at E3.

So, stuff I saw that interested me;

- Perhaps hilariously, the Call of Duty showcase. While lauding such features as dog companions, leaning out of cover, sliding and vaulting cover as being 'innovative' was laughable, the CoD section did at least do some technical talk on graphics processing that suggested, to me, WHY we need the new console generation and updated hardware, much more than anything I'd seen before. Most of the footage shown at the Sony event didn't look like anything that couldn't be achieved on the PS3 / 360 tech and that disappointed me.
- Kinect 2.0 - which seems to be the Kinect we were promised to start with.
- Microsoft branching out - the Halo TV Series. While I'm not a Halo fan, the idea of MS moving to finance the spread of their franchise stable into other media is really interesting and I hope it pays off, since it could (and presumably would if it made money) mean more of the same for more titles. People have brought up 'House of Cards' as an example since this is what Netflix did, so it'll be interesting to see how the experiment goes. Nancy Tellem looks to have a pretty impressive resumé and since she's head of this particular area, it gives cause for some faith.
- The announcement of 8 brand new IPs. While MS did refer to them as 'franchises' it shows they're at least throwing their weight behind original launch titles in the hopes that some of them stick. These could be the new Halo, the new Gears of War, even the new Mass Effect, which were all original titles for the 360.
- I'll also add that despite my misgivings on the whole 'one system' thing, which isn't something I'm interested in, I have had quite a few people say they think it's fantastic, even current 360 owners with a multi-system setup, so I don't think MS is going off in the wrong direction too much, as I originally thought.

Stuff I want to know more about;

- Built-in recording capabilities. It was glossed over, literally a throwaway sentence, but it was stated that there is a built in system (DVR?) which can record gameplay on the fly. I want to know what that translates to - can I, like the PS4 has suggested, upload that content from my Xbox to Youtube? How easy is it to do? What's the capacity going to be like?
- Used games. It's been pretty much confirmed that the process for playing games on the XBone is that you have to install the game to play, and you also essentially bind it to your account. For other people to play that game, they have to pay a fee to bind it to their account. It's also been said that you can essentially sell your account keys online, which I assume will translate into MSPoints for use in the Marketplace. I'm not dismissing the idea as ridiculous - it'll make a lot of people unhappy, but I don't buy used games so it's not really an issue for me personally - but I do want to know more about how exactly this will work.
- Online requirements. There's a lot of stuff going around about this at the moment, from always-on to once a day to not at all. This seems like an absolutely ridiculous decision to me considering the state of internet connectivity around the world so I definitely want to see a definite answer. It does seem that some form of connectivity would be required though, mainly because of the above - how will MS enforce a paywall for trading games if you don't connect to the internet?

That's where I am right now. I'm sitting on the fence but definitely leaning into Sony's camp as it stands - their emphasis on digital distribution, cloud gaming and support for independent publishing suggests they're definitely moving with the times - but Sony took 3 hours to deliver their pitch as opposed to Microsoft's one and it's clear the underlying message throughout the reveal lastnight was "see you at E3" which also goes some way to explain why they couldn't take the time to showcase their games. They had talks from the biggest franchises on Xbox (EASports in general and Activision for CoD) in which both pledged support and some exclusivity to cement that position, but didn't fit anything else in, so it seems potentially unfair to put them up against each other directly, despite that being a clear part of MS's game plan (showing the console first was a pretty blatant slap in the face).

Wow, that ran on a bit. I have a vested interest in seeing this generation succeed - consoles have been my preferred platform for a very long time and I'd like to be able to continue with that - but MS haven't done much to restore my faith here, which is about the only disappointing part of the whole thing. The XBone seems to just be more of the same, with better tech, while the PS4 suggests the next step.
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Re: New Xbox unveils most uninspired name ever
« Reply #18 on: 22 May 2013, 10:48 »

My thoughts are basically that MS managed to make Sony look really really good.
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« Reply #19 on: 22 May 2013, 10:56 »

They made the PS4 look like a better choice for gaming, for sure.

I was listening to The Escapist's Podcast on the subject while at work today and one of them brought up how the PS3 suffered from them marketing the tech and Blu-Ray aspects of it with a sort of "it also plays games" tacked on. Not one of them noticed that this was EXACTLY what MS did lastnight.
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« Reply #20 on: 22 May 2013, 14:14 »

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« Reply #21 on: 22 May 2013, 15:13 »

Annnnnnd Indies can't self publish on the Xbox One.

http://www.destructoid.com/xboned-indies-can-t-self-publish-on-xbox-one-254292.phtml

I'm guessing XBLA is going to get a lot less love than the PSN and Wii U's e-Shop.
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« Reply #22 on: 22 May 2013, 15:19 »

Yeah, if that's true, they've pretty much ensured that the next big indie hit isn't coming to their console. Great job, guys!
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« Reply #23 on: 22 May 2013, 15:54 »

Excuse me if I ask, but what does self-publishing mean? What are the implications? What's the advantage of self-publishing vs having a publisher?

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« Reply #24 on: 22 May 2013, 16:12 »

Yeah, if that's true, they've pretty much ensured that the next big indie hit isn't coming to their console. Great job, guys!

Is this an ironic statement I can't tell.   It sounds ironic.
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« Reply #25 on: 22 May 2013, 16:19 »

Self-publishing means that you don't have a publisher taking all the costs of distribution. A publisher boxes the copies of the game, talk to microsoft and sony and nintendo for you to get your stuff on their console, does PR, and most of the other stuff not directly related to making the game. They also fund the production of your game. The downside is that they take a (big fucking) cut of your profit, and might demand some creative input and veto power - after all, since they are paying, they feel like they need to keep a check on the team so the game turns out profitable.

For a good example of why you might want to cut out the publisher - the guys at InExile brought Chris Avellone, the CEO of Obsidian, on board as a writer for Wasteland 2, as a kickstarter stretch goal. The InExile guys and the Obsidian guys knows each other well, and work well together, but according to an interview with someone from InExile (cannot remember who), they would never have been allowed to bring him on if they had a publisher - the publisher would have protested on the grounds that Avellone, as the CEO of another company, would gain access to "trade secrets".

Publishers has for long been a necessary evil - after all, they pay for games that wouldn't be made otherwise. They do, sadly, have a tendency to trust focus groups more than experienced developers when it comes to what to put in a game, and they might force devs to make decisions that makes money now, but hurts the quality of games and their brands. EA was probably the reason Dragon Age 2 was rushed, as an example.

Self-publishing can now be done some ways. Either you do a small indie team that lives of savings, loans and/or grants, and gets the game out through alternative means*. Or you do a game on your spare time, and get it out the same way. Or you do a kickstarter. Microsoft is pretty much saying that they're not interested in any of those games - which means that they're not interested in games like Minecraft, Terraria, Magica, FTL, Wasteland 2, Fez, Super Meat Boy... the list goes on.


*This was, btw, pretty much impossible before buying and selling over the internet became a thing. Spiderweb Software and a few others managed to do that by putting shareware demos in game magazines, and selling the keys to unlock all the content over e- or snail-mail. The margins for success was very slim.

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Nope, no irony. One of the few, defining characteristics of indie games is that they don't have publishers. Indie ~ independent, remember.
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« Reply #26 on: 22 May 2013, 16:20 »

Wow that got long
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« Reply #27 on: 22 May 2013, 16:24 »

Also Sony and Nintendo are removing costs (well, already have in Nintendo's case) for patching digital only releases. Microsoft isn't.
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« Reply #28 on: 22 May 2013, 16:36 »

Neither system is supporting backwards compatibility...

 You can play PS3 games on PS4 using Gaikai ("Cloud service").

 This is a great thing, because the people that have a 360 couldn't play the ps3 exclusives, and now they will.

 You can't put your ps3 blu-rays on it? Maybe. If you didn't own a 360, this won't bother you. If you do, i could bet that some mods will do something simple as making a backup from your disk to your pc and then moving it content to the console hdd.

 Back to topic:
 I don't know if taking this as hillarious or genius:

 http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/05/only-fox-news-can-save-us-from-the-tyranny-of-xbox-one/
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« Reply #29 on: 22 May 2013, 20:34 »

Hmm.  After thinking about it awhile today, my own argument about reverse compatibility has made me lean toward a PS4 now.  I'd rather the company I go with focus more on gaming than being a catch-all multimedia device.

Also I hate the kinect and motion control games in general, they're all horrible.
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« Reply #31 on: 22 May 2013, 22:55 »

That is the most awesome thing ever.
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« Reply #32 on: 23 May 2013, 06:52 »

yeaaah... That was kinda how I felt about it too.
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« Reply #33 on: 23 May 2013, 16:57 »

I don't always have an internet connection. This last year was the first time I've had one in a year or two.

I mostly use consoles these days to play various games throughout the years. I appreciate not having a huge hassle to play back titles.

This isn't really for me. From the discussion it sounds like they want some of that money the Wii got its hands on by being 'not just for gamers', but with a different route. I dunno.

I'll laugh if it seems like Sony got their facsimile of a human soul together for the 4. We'll see. I think I'll just mostly keep choosing my computer, though. Hell, re-releases on Steam and GoG and other services even mean it's easier than ever for me to get my hands on the various games I want to play (kind of like how a fuckin' library means I can get my hands on *books* I enjoy).

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« Reply #34 on: 23 May 2013, 17:37 »

Well, from stuff I've been seeing today, sounds like Microsoft is furiously trying to backpedal on a lot if these issues.
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But no, it's all used games that did this. Used games made Capcom make some horrible design decisions on DmC and piss off the entire fanbase. Used games made Activision and EA flood the market with guitar games and accessories long after people stopped caring. Used games made Microsoft make a fourth Gears of War game that nobody asked for from a developer nobody cares about. Used games made Sony pump out another God of War game after they spent the past few years flooding the market with HD remasters. Used games made Sony make a Smash Bros clone with no appealing characters to help sell it. Used games made Bizarre Creations make James Bond and racing games no-one wanted. Used games make publishers shutter studios the moment the game they were working on goes gold, before they've even had a chance to sell a single new copy, let alone a used one.

I could go on. And on. And on. You could write a book about every single executive level screw-up this gen and yet these same people with their million dollar salaries and their shill puppets still try to insult our intelligence and blame used games and awful, entitled consumers for companies shutting and talented people losing their jobs.

From a post on NeoGAF,
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« Reply #36 on: 23 May 2013, 20:20 »

Holy shit that article the thread is about...

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Listen to what Harrison told Kotaku. “We will have a solution—we’re not talking about it today—for you to be able to trade your previously-played games online,” he said. What that likely means is that you’ll be able to trade your license for… something. Microsoft points, or credit towards another game, and Microsoft will simply remove the license from your account. Think about it this way: No used game is created from this scenario, it’s simply a license that is cancelled. That changes everything.

so...

What he's saying, basically is:  You Buy Halo 36, take it home, install it, play it for a month and get bored, then Forza 57 comes out and you want it, so Microsoft erases your license for Halo 36 and gives you a discount for downloading Forza 57.  And that license is not sold to anyone else to make up for it as a "used" title.  Why would they give a flying clusterfuck about you erasing a title when they can just charge you full price for Forza 57?  They're going to give you a discount out of the kindness of their hearts because they know you really want to lose a game for no reason and get that discount.

that....

That is one of the finest lines of absolute bullshit that I have ever had the priviledge of witnessing.  It almost brings a tear to my eye.
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« Reply #37 on: 23 May 2013, 21:55 »

Man it's great to not be a console user, us PC'ers don't have to put up with bullshit of this magnitude.  Granted, we have our own fair share of bullshit, but at least on a PC, there will be some dedicated person who discovers how to break a game's "always online" requirement so it can be played offline (Diablo 3 and Sim City 5, anyone?) and then spread to everyone.

On the other hand, my computer is over four years old and is finally starting to show its age, so it'll be time for me to upgrade soon.  Fuck Windows 8... -.-
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« Reply #38 on: 23 May 2013, 22:21 »

I can respect the PC market well enough, but I never liked it.  maybe it was just me, but I was always having problems with incompatibility with video card drivers or sound screwups, or the game's display being upside down for no adequately-explained reason, or a thousand other problems and glitches that was the reason I eventually went solely to console gaming.  Sure I might not have the 10324324 X 90523532 resoluton display some have that I don't really care at all about (OMG MUH PIXELS) but on the whole gaming on consoles has been a lot more stable for me.

That and after I paid good money for Spore I swore to never play a PC game again.
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« Reply #39 on: 23 May 2013, 22:27 »

Just noticed something in a Cracked article about Xbox One:

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So no, you can't loan a game to a friend to let him try it -- once a disc is registered with one machine, it can't be used on another without that person paying full price.

Read more: http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/5-features-new-xbox-that-are-about-to-ruin-everything/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=fanpage&utm_campaign=new+article&wa_ibsrc=fanpage#ixzz2UBWjZhfr
So what happens to a person whose Xbox One is destroyed, say in a fire, or by a stupid roommate, or by a RROD, or some other calamity?  Does the person have to pay again to play his own games?

Man Microsoft is kicking up the shitstorm to end shitstorms with this thing...

Edit:  What the holy hell???  The forum just...added that link to the article at the end of the quote!  I didn't even copy the link to it at any point, just that snippet.  Internet is getting fucking creepy on me...
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« Reply #40 on: 23 May 2013, 23:35 »

Cracked.com does that every time you copy/paste from one of their pages, I don't know how it does it.  Some kind of code-magic.

As of recently, they're saying that as long as you're signed in with your profile, you can play it on another XBone wihtout paying anything, so if your xbox dies in a fire you can just buy a new one, sign into your account and everything will be fine.  And you can let a friend play for free as long as he's playing on your account and you're not using it.  Which will probably just result in people craeting a new XBL account for every game they might want to let people borrow.  My annoying teenage cousin has a different xbl account for every online game he plays for some reason, and wants me to add every damn one.
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« Reply #41 on: 24 May 2013, 09:22 »

It should be noted that both Microsoft and Sony have been trying to position their consoles since the 360/PS3 as not 'game playing devices' but rather 'full entertainment solutions'. They would like you to get rid of all the electronic stuff connected to your TV and just route everything through them, so they get a piece of every pie. And completely forgetting that people want to buy their consoles BECAUSE they are game playing devices. Without the ability to play games, there is no point in buying one of their consoles, since you can get everything else they can do cheaper as separate pieces. Excepting when PS3 was the cheapest blue-ray player on the market at release because they were taking a huge loss selling it under cost. Now of course, you can buy a blue ray player for a third of the cost of a PS3, or less.
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« Reply #42 on: 24 May 2013, 09:30 »

Not to mention the other problem is that modern TVs already do 90% of it, no extra equipment necessary.
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« Reply #43 on: 24 May 2013, 11:04 »

It will all come down to the game selection. A console cannot be successful unless it has a great selection of games that the gamers wants to buy. And while there's a lot of CoD-fans out there, they cannot support a console on their own. Msoft needs to bring out some titles people are interested in.
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As of recently, they're saying that as long as you're signed in with your profile, you can play it on another XBone wihtout paying anything, so if your xbox dies in a fire you can just buy a new one, sign into your account and everything will be fine.
Ah, doyee...should've thought of that, since it sounds like a console version of Steam.
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« Reply #46 on: 25 May 2013, 04:49 »

Somebody posted this on Twitter with the comment "Shots fired"

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« Reply #47 on: 25 May 2013, 08:30 »

You know, the more rumours and facts I hear about the Xbox One, the more I think of this;
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« Reply #48 on: 25 May 2013, 10:02 »

There are a few more, such as these:


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« Reply #49 on: 25 May 2013, 10:29 »

Those be fightin' words!
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